History WMG / ANewHope

1st Feb '16 12:57:02 AM Oddstar6
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* When would he have had time to do it? We see Owen and Beru alive some time after Luke left in his speeder looking for Artoo. Luke then gets attacked by Tusken Raiders and rescued by Obi-Wan. Obi-Wan was with Luke until Luke left in his speeder to go home, where he found Owen and Beru dead. So, either Obi-Wan would have had to arrive at the Lars homestead sometime after Owen said "or there'll be hell to pay", kill Owen and Beru and torch the place, then race back in time to save Luke, or Obi-Wan would have had to leave from the site of the dead Jawas, beat Luke back to his home, kill Owen and Beru, torch the place, then leave and beat Luke back to the dead Jawas, and somehow persuade Artoo and Threepio not to mention that he had left and come back while Luke was away. Bear in mind that in both scenarios, Luke is in a speeder while Obi-Wan was on foot. There is simply no way he could have had the time.
30th Jan '16 4:41:09 PM Oddstar6
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[[https://youtu.be/g6PDcBhODqo?t=28s The one here.]] Before they started working for the Overmind. Heck, maybe the Overmind is The Force! Maybe the Overmind already cleared out that far away galaxy a long time ago after the Force was balanced! Maybe that's the only way to stop the Dark Side - not give anyone the chance to create a galactic civilization.
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[[https://youtu.be/g6PDcBhODqo?t=28s The one here.]] Before they started working for the Overmind. Heck, maybe the Overmind is The Force! Maybe the Overmind already cleared out that far away galaxy a long time ago after the Force was balanced! Maybe that's the only way to stop the Dark Side - not give anyone the chance to create a galactic civilization.civilization. [[WMG: Yavin was ''not'' the main Rebel Base.]] During the meeting on the Death Star, General Taggi says "The Rebel Alliance is too well-equipped. They're more dangerous than you realize." Furthermore, Vader and Tarkin assume that destroying Yavin will crush the Rebellion: at that same meeting, Tarkin says that once they know the location of the Rebel base, they "will then crush the Rebellion with one swift stroke", and Vader, as they are approaching Yavin, says "This will be a day long remembered. It has seen the end of Kenobi and will soon see the end of the Rebellion." Yet during the battle of Yavin, another officer informs Vader "We count thirty rebel ships...." We never see anywhere near that many rebel fighters in any shot, and when Red Group is reporting in, only nine pilots, counting Red Leader, report. But let's say thirty fighters. Considering how important it was for the Rebellion to destroy the Death Star, one would have to assume that the Rebels sent every fighter they had. So the main base of the "well-equipped" Rebellion, whose destruction will end the Rebellion outright, has only thirty fighters protecting it? That cannot be right. In reality, Yavin was a relatively minor Rebel base. That is why Leia was not worried about the tracking device: she could have had them all search for it and then dump it in deep space, far from any star system, but she did not bother, because she knew that she was leading the Death Star to a minor base whose loss the Rebellion could survive. Probably the first thing they did once they uploaded the plans from R2-D2 was make a copy and send them in a ship to another base, just in case, but the movie did not bother to show that scene because it ended up not mattering.
20th Dec '15 8:05:57 PM pittsburghmuggle
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[[WMG: The "Devil" character in the Cantina in is an [[Series/ChildhoodsEnd Overlord]].]]
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[[WMG: The "Devil" character in the Cantina in is an [[Series/ChildhoodsEnd [[Literature/ChildhoodsEnd Overlord]].]]
20th Dec '15 8:03:58 PM pittsburghmuggle
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[[https://youtu.be/g6PDcBhODqo?t=27s The one here.]] Before they started working for the Overmind. Heck, maybe the Overmind is The Force! Maybe the Overmind already cleared out that far away galaxy a long time ago after the Force was balanced! Maybe that's the only way to stop the Dark Side - not give anyone the chance to create a galactic civilization.
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[[https://youtu.be/g6PDcBhODqo?t=27s be/g6PDcBhODqo?t=28s The one here.]] Before they started working for the Overmind. Heck, maybe the Overmind is The Force! Maybe the Overmind already cleared out that far away galaxy a long time ago after the Force was balanced! Maybe that's the only way to stop the Dark Side - not give anyone the chance to create a galactic civilization.
20th Dec '15 8:03:10 PM pittsburghmuggle
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* Similar to the theory above with Uncle Owen posing as the wingman that rammed into Vader during the trench run, but he was just a spy. Infiltrating the ranks and was successful in gaining Vader's trust to be one his his wingmen, presumibly [[BodyguardBetrayal to attempt to assassinate him later]]. Seeing the other one blown up by Han, he took the chance to [[TakingYouWithMe ram into Lord Vader to "protect him"]]. However [[SenselessSacrifice his sacrifice was in vain.]]
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* Similar to the theory above with Uncle Owen posing as the wingman that rammed into Vader during the trench run, but he was just a spy. Infiltrating the ranks and was successful in gaining Vader's trust to be one his his wingmen, presumibly [[BodyguardBetrayal to attempt to assassinate him later]]. Seeing the other one blown up by Han, he took the chance to [[TakingYouWithMe ram into Lord Vader to "protect him"]]. However [[SenselessSacrifice his sacrifice was in vain.]]]] [[WMG: The "Devil" character in the Cantina in is an [[Series/ChildhoodsEnd Overlord]].]] [[https://youtu.be/g6PDcBhODqo?t=27s The one here.]] Before they started working for the Overmind. Heck, maybe the Overmind is The Force! Maybe the Overmind already cleared out that far away galaxy a long time ago after the Force was balanced! Maybe that's the only way to stop the Dark Side - not give anyone the chance to create a galactic civilization.
20th Dec '15 9:36:52 AM Anorgil
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**** "Hold your fire. There are no life forms, and droids aren't allowed access to escape pods, so there can't be any droids either."
13th Dec '15 5:22:25 PM TheFarmboy
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...but missed because he was piss drunk. There's no way Jabba would send Greedo after Han when there's guys like Fett and Dengar around. So Greedo's in the cantina drowning his sorrows about never getting any respect from Jabba when suddenly he spots Han across the bar. He staggers over, confronts Han, takes a seat in a booth before he falls down and starts talking the big talk. He's too drunk to notice Han going for his gun and by the time he realises what's happening his reactions are so dulled by the space booze that his aim is way off and Han gets a clear shot.
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...but missed because he was piss drunk. There's no way Jabba would send Greedo after Han when there's guys like Fett and Dengar around. So Greedo's in the cantina drowning his sorrows about never getting any respect from Jabba when suddenly he spots Han across the bar. He staggers over, confronts Han, takes a seat in a booth before he falls down and starts talking the big talk. He's too drunk to notice Han going for his gun and by the time he realises what's happening his reactions are so dulled by the space booze that his aim is way off and Han gets a clear shot.shot. [[WMG: One of Vader's Wingmen was a Rebel Spy]] * Similar to the theory above with Uncle Owen posing as the wingman that rammed into Vader during the trench run, but he was just a spy. Infiltrating the ranks and was successful in gaining Vader's trust to be one his his wingmen, presumibly [[BodyguardBetrayal to attempt to assassinate him later]]. Seeing the other one blown up by Han, he took the chance to [[TakingYouWithMe ram into Lord Vader to "protect him"]]. However [[SenselessSacrifice his sacrifice was in vain.]]
25th Nov '15 6:51:40 AM fearknight2003
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[[WMG: Obi-Wan is the BigBad. (Going with below)]] Going with the below WMG, Obi-Wan is the series BigBad. In New Hope, he says 'Only Imperial Stormtroopers can be so precise' in reference to the destroyed sandcrawler. But stormtroopers can't hit the broad side of a barn; he did it to eliminate witnesses of the destroyed house of Owen and Beru. Lightsaber damage and an explosion could easily be mistaken, especially with the Force involved. He didn't finish Anakin off, instead allowing him to survive and become Darth Vader. He forced Luke to go to Dagobah instead of doing more good with the Rebels. In short: Obi-Wan is the BigBad.
16th Oct '15 9:36:59 AM Abberline1888
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* And then ''Empire Strikes Back'' happens and it is revealed that the Empire is terrifyingly competent again, now that the traitors in their ranks are no longer causing them trouble.
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* And then ''Empire Strikes Back'' happens and it is revealed that the Empire is terrifyingly competent again, now that the traitors in their ranks are no longer causing them trouble.trouble. [[WMG: Greedo DID shoot first...]] ...but missed because he was piss drunk. There's no way Jabba would send Greedo after Han when there's guys like Fett and Dengar around. So Greedo's in the cantina drowning his sorrows about never getting any respect from Jabba when suddenly he spots Han across the bar. He staggers over, confronts Han, takes a seat in a booth before he falls down and starts talking the big talk. He's too drunk to notice Han going for his gun and by the time he realises what's happening his reactions are so dulled by the space booze that his aim is way off and Han gets a clear shot.
4th Oct '15 6:06:54 AM Morgenthaler
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America Wins The War has been renamed because of Missing Supertrope Syndrome. Misuse and Zero Context Examples will be cut.
* Imperial stormtroopers are actually expert shots. The only times we see them missing is when they're under special orders not to kill (like when the heroes are escaping the Death Star or Cloud City). Their inability to defeat the Ewoks is because that was a totally unexpected situation [[RockBeatsLaser which their strategies, equipment etc. weren't suited for]] (compare the United States, [[AmericaWinsTheWar a great military superpower]], losing to a RagtagBunchOfMisfits in the UsefulNotes/VietnamWar).
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* Imperial stormtroopers are actually expert shots. The only times we see them missing is when they're under special orders not to kill (like when the heroes are escaping the Death Star or Cloud City). Their inability to defeat the Ewoks is because that was a totally unexpected situation [[RockBeatsLaser which their strategies, equipment etc. weren't suited for]] (compare the United States, [[AmericaWinsTheWar a great military superpower]], superpower, losing to a RagtagBunchOfMisfits in the UsefulNotes/VietnamWar).
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