History WMG / ANewHope

8th Apr '17 3:37:35 PM nombretomado
Is there an issue? Send a Message


It's established that Jedi can see into the future, at least to some extent. Obi-Wan knew that Vader would kill the Emperor, [[ReturnOfTheJedi which of course he did.]] He could have killed him on the Death Star, but neither he nor Luke could kill the Emperor. So Vader had to live and that meant he had to die.

to:

It's established that Jedi can see into the future, at least to some extent. Obi-Wan knew that Vader would kill the Emperor, [[ReturnOfTheJedi [[Film/ReturnOfTheJedi which of course he did.]] He could have killed him on the Death Star, but neither he nor Luke could kill the Emperor. So Vader had to live and that meant he had to die.
16th Mar '17 9:02:12 PM chickenpie999
Is there an issue? Send a Message


* According to [[WordOfGod Word of George]] the EU is an expanded "alternate universe". clearly Alternate!Tarkin has the opposite views and personality from Movie!Tarkin, and it's just a mirror universe forced coincidence they end up acting mostly the same way.

to:

* According to [[WordOfGod Word of George]] the EU is an expanded "alternate universe". clearly Alternate!Tarkin has the opposite views and personality from Movie!Tarkin, and it's just a mirror universe forced coincidence they end up acting mostly the same way.



In his time of isolation Obi-Wan became warped and slightly insane. As a result his warped mind lead him to plan a path out for Luke that would result in him killing Vader. The first obstacle was getting Luke to let go of his life on Tatooine. This was accomplished by sending an anonymous tip to the imperial stormtroopers of the location of the jawa's who sold the droids to Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru. This cut Luke's ties on Tatooine and solidified his hatred of the empire. Before this he lied to him telling him that Darth Vader killed his father, cementing a hatred for Vader to prevent Luke from opting out of Patricide. The next step of his plan is to train Luke in the force and lightsaber. He knew that at some point he would run afoul of Vader and had a plan for that as well. Lead Vader to fight near where the Falcon was docked so that Luke would see the battle once he and the rest of the party arrived. He then smugly let himself die becoming more powerful than Vader could ever imagine, by empowering Luke the son Vader did not know still lived.

to:

In his time of isolation Obi-Wan became warped and slightly insane. As a result his warped mind lead him to plan a path out for Luke that would result in him killing Vader. The first obstacle was getting Luke to let go of his life on Tatooine. This was accomplished by sending an anonymous tip to the imperial stormtroopers Stormtroopers of the location of the jawa's who sold the droids to Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru. This cut Luke's ties on Tatooine and solidified his hatred of the empire. Before this he lied to him telling him that Darth Vader killed his father, cementing a hatred for Vader to prevent Luke from opting out of Patricide. The next step of his plan is to train Luke in the force and lightsaber. He knew that at some point he would run afoul of Vader and had a plan for that as well. Lead Vader to fight near where the Falcon was docked so that Luke would see the battle once he and the rest of the party arrived. He then smugly let himself die becoming more powerful than Vader could ever imagine, by empowering Luke the son Vader did not know still lived.
16th Mar '17 8:57:04 PM chickenpie999
Is there an issue? Send a Message



to:

[[WMG: Han's decision to shoot caused a timeline split]]
Greedo shooting first causes the more crapsacky post-GCW in The Force Awakens. Whereas if Han shot first, the Legends post-GCW occurs, allowing him to survive.
6th Dec '16 11:14:12 AM I_love_dragons
Is there an issue? Send a Message


An idea from the RobotNames page. When the Skywalker twins had to be separated, Obi-wan knew he needed to protect both of them. He used the Force to hastily put together an android he named OB-1. However, because he figured Luke wouldn't become necessary for several years, he made the force-android several decades older. Obi-wan followed Leia to Alderaan (since she was going to be the high profile bait) and OB-1 went with Luke. Several years down the line (but not enough for the aged OB-1 to be accurate), Leia gets captured. She hurriedly composes a message to Obi-wan on Alderaan and sends it to the nearest planet Tatooine hoping it will eventually get to Alderaan. R2-D2 ends up with Luke and is taken to OB-1 by mistake. OB-1 isn't lying when he says he's never owned a droid and that Darth Vader killed Luke's father because that's what Obi-wan told him happened. OB-1 decides to train Luke and bring him to Obi-wan, who ends up dying when Alderaan explodes. Later when Darth Vader strikes OB-1, he just vanishes because Obi-wan isn't around to will him together. The force ghost of Obi-wan never tells Luke this because frankly the kid has enough problems to deal without without knowing his mentor was really a some sort of construct.

to:

An idea from the RobotNames page. When the Skywalker twins had to be separated, Obi-wan knew he needed to protect both of them. He used the Force to hastily put together an android he named OB-1. However, because he figured Luke wouldn't become necessary for several years, he made the force-android several decades older. Obi-wan followed Leia to Alderaan (since she was going to be the high profile bait) and OB-1 went with Luke. Several years down the line (but not enough for the aged OB-1 to be accurate), Leia gets captured. She hurriedly composes a message to Obi-wan on Alderaan and sends it to the nearest planet Tatooine hoping it will eventually get to Alderaan. R2-D2 ends up with Luke and is taken to OB-1 by mistake. OB-1 isn't lying when he says he's never owned a droid and that Darth Vader killed Luke's father because that's what Obi-wan told him happened. OB-1 decides to train Luke and bring him to Obi-wan, who ends up dying when Alderaan explodes. Later when Darth Vader strikes OB-1, he just vanishes because Obi-wan isn't around to will him together. The force ghost of Obi-wan never tells Luke this because frankly the kid has enough problems to deal without with without knowing his mentor was really a some sort of construct.
14th Nov '16 12:40:31 PM Morgenthaler
Is there an issue? Send a Message


We all know about the ImperialStormtrooperMarksmanshipAcademy. But the, we also know that the Clone troopers didn't necessarily attend that academy; they were pretty damn [[BadAss badass]]. Obi-Wan went into hiding after the Emperor took over; he may have assumed that the Emperor still used clones, or at least people who were trained well.

to:

We all know about the ImperialStormtrooperMarksmanshipAcademy. But the, we also know that the Clone troopers didn't necessarily attend that academy; they were pretty damn [[BadAss badass]].badass. Obi-Wan went into hiding after the Emperor took over; he may have assumed that the Emperor still used clones, or at least people who were trained well.
9th Nov '16 3:05:08 AM Abberline1888
Is there an issue? Send a Message


*** "Hold your fire. There are no lifeforms and there can't be any droids because they're not allowed in pods, but the plans might be on board on a disc or whatever and we know the pod is going to land on that desert planet nearby, so we'll just send some troops down to pick it up in a day or so. Or would you rather explain to Lord Vader that you blew up an escape pod with the plans in it?" Remember the "look sir, droids" trooper sounded pretty surprised that there were droids on board, so that obviously wasn't even something the Empire were considering.

to:

*** "Hold your fire. There are no lifeforms and there can't be any droids because they're not allowed in pods, but the plans might be on board on a disc or whatever and we know the pod is going to land on that desert planet nearby, so we'll just send some troops down to pick it up in a day or so. Or would you rather explain to Lord Vader that you blew up an escape pod with the plans in it?" " Remember the "look sir, droids" trooper sounded pretty surprised that there were droids on board, so that obviously wasn't even something the Empire were considering.
8th Nov '16 10:55:56 AM Abberline1888
Is there an issue? Send a Message


For one, he was on Tatooine at this time. The empire is also not above using mercenaries and bounty hunters. And isn´t it conspicuous how they were killed? Stormtroopers may shoot you, but normal blaster fire will only leave local burn marks and internal burns, so it kills you and your body is mostly left unharmed. But in this case they literally got their flesh cooked of their bones without much damage to their surroundings. That is a textbook example of disintegration. And then there is the scene in "Empire Strikes Back". Vader makes it clear he wants Han, Chewie and Leia taken by all means and alive. But he sees the need to single out Fett to tell him: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I95Qgv7tynI "No disintegration's!"]] That is oddly specific if it never happened before.

to:

For one, he was on Tatooine at this time. The empire is also not above using mercenaries and bounty hunters. And isn´t it conspicuous how they were killed? Stormtroopers may shoot you, but normal blaster fire will only leave local burn marks and internal burns, so it kills you and your body is mostly left unharmed. But in this case they literally got their flesh cooked of their bones without much damage to their surroundings. That is a textbook example of disintegration. And then there is the scene in "Empire Strikes Back". Vader makes it clear he wants Han, Chewie and Leia taken by all means and alive. But he sees the need to single out Fett to tell him: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I95Qgv7tynI "No disintegration's!"]] That is oddly specific if it never happened before.before.

[[WMG: Chalmun, the Wookiee who owned the Mos Eisley Cantina, fought in the Battle of Kashyyyk]]
Hence why droids aren't allowed in his bar.
13th Oct '16 6:56:25 AM PFMF
Is there an issue? Send a Message


[[FridgeHorror Think about it:]] Obi-Wan [[TheWoobie lost everything]] when the Empire rose. And, due to training Anakin in spite of the tradition, it's partly [[NiceJobBreakingItHero his fault.]] Obi-Wan already passed the DespairEventHorizon, and the only thing keeping him from wasting away was the hope that the Jedi may return. Once he had started Luke on his training, [[SuicideMission he fully expected to die.]] Being struck by Vader would not only serve to make him a Force Ghost out of reach to help out Luke, but [[DrivenToSuicide let him escape from his despairing physical form]] and re-unite with his fellow Jedi.

to:

[[FridgeHorror Think about it:]] Obi-Wan [[TheWoobie lost everything]] when the Empire rose. And, due to training Anakin in spite of the tradition, it's partly [[NiceJobBreakingItHero his fault.]] Obi-Wan already passed the DespairEventHorizon, and the only thing keeping him from wasting away was the hope that the Jedi may return. Once he had started Luke on his training, [[SuicideMission he fully expected to die.]] Being struck by Vader would not only serve to make him a Force Ghost out of reach to help out Luke, but [[DrivenToSuicide let him escape from his despairing physical form]] and re-unite with his fellow Jedi.Jedi.

[[WMG: Boba Fett killed Owen and Beru]]
For one, he was on Tatooine at this time. The empire is also not above using mercenaries and bounty hunters. And isn´t it conspicuous how they were killed? Stormtroopers may shoot you, but normal blaster fire will only leave local burn marks and internal burns, so it kills you and your body is mostly left unharmed. But in this case they literally got their flesh cooked of their bones without much damage to their surroundings. That is a textbook example of disintegration. And then there is the scene in "Empire Strikes Back". Vader makes it clear he wants Han, Chewie and Leia taken by all means and alive. But he sees the need to single out Fett to tell him: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I95Qgv7tynI "No disintegration's!"]] That is oddly specific if it never happened before.
30th Aug '16 4:49:54 PM CamelCase
Is there an issue? Send a Message

Added DiffLines:

*** How are they "ambiguously" brown? They're Māori like Temuera Morrison.
30th Aug '16 4:40:19 PM CamelCase
Is there an issue? Send a Message



to:

* When he became a Force Ghost, the Force cured his Alzheimer's.
This list shows the last 10 events of 169. Show all.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=WMG.ANewHope