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That would explain what is he doing in this universe. Additionally what happened to him matches SHIFT mechanics, as [=SHIFTers=] tend to lose memories during jumps if they're out of practice. This would explain why he doesn't remember anything after Hazakura case. The white Psycholocks are blocking memories he lost when he jumped. Additionally fic was started in 2013 and while ''Zero Time Dilemma'' had yet to be created ''Virtue's Last Reward'' was already out, which means that while the term "SHIFT" itself wasn't yet created, the mechanics of jumping were already set. Additionally author referenced "clover words" from 999, meaning she most likely knows the trilogy, and could've been partially inspired.
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That would explain what is he doing in this universe. Additionally what happened to him matches SHIFT mechanics, as [=SHIFTers=] tend to lose memories during jumps if they're out of practice. This would explain why he doesn't remember anything after Hazakura case. The white Psycholocks are blocking memories he lost when he jumped. Additionally fic was started in 2013 and while ''Zero Time Dilemma'' had yet to be created ''Virtue's Last Reward'' was already out, which means that while the term "SHIFT" itself wasn't yet created, the mechanics of jumping were already set. Additionally author referenced "clover words" from 999, meaning she most likely knows the trilogy, and could've been partially inspired.inspired.
[[WMG: The photo of Phoenix and Iris was taken by the network.]]
This is how the Network convinced him to work for them. They sent him that photo with a comment like "Cute girl you have there. ShameIfSomethingHappened to her". They might've added other photos over time for other people he cares about. Given that the they had him under control since BD-7 it's very likely that they demanded a guilty verdict for Dahlia. Phoenix then TookAThirdOption and broke his leg making it look like an accident so they wouldn't think he wilingly disobeyed them. Then they made Karma take the case knowing he won't ''need'' additiona motivation to find her guilty.
[[WMG: The photo of Phoenix and Iris was taken by the network.]]
This is how the Network convinced him to work for them. They sent him that photo with a comment like "Cute girl you have there. ShameIfSomethingHappened to her". They might've added other photos over time for other people he cares about. Given that the they had him under control since BD-7 it's very likely that they demanded a guilty verdict for Dahlia. Phoenix then TookAThirdOption and broke his leg making it look like an accident so they wouldn't think he wilingly disobeyed them. Then they made Karma take the case knowing he won't ''need'' additiona motivation to find her guilty.
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It's implied that Prosecutor!Phoenix was in the final stages before his secret work paid off and he could neutralize the Network, and invited Ema and Lana to his apartment to fill them in on their roles. Unfortunately he made those plans via cell texts including the intended time, which he didn't know was bugged. Near the appointed time goons working for the Network (including Dylan, who is probably being controlled like Phoenix) ambush Lana in the hall, break in using Dylan and attack Ema, who catches a glimpse before being knocked out. But there's still a loose end: no Phoenix, on account of him being replaced by Canon!Phoenix who leaves, gets attacked with a baseball bat, abuses a table, passes out standing up and misses the meeting "he" planned. Whatever the goons' plan was, it probably wasn't to stab Ema and set up Lana to take the fall, that was probably a hastily-made Plan B that, as we see in trial, did not stand up to scrutiny. It's likely they were attempting to catch them all together to scare them into dropping the issue with threats of violence or 'disappearing', and were forced to invent a cause for the violence that had already happened in order to cover their tracks when it was discovered. As well, the Network would assume Phoenix would take the killing as a message to get back in line before more people get hurt... but Canon!Phoenix doesn't have that context and pursues it anyway.
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It's implied that Prosecutor!Phoenix was in the final stages before his secret work paid off and he could neutralize the Network, and invited Ema and Lana to his apartment to fill them in on their roles. Unfortunately he made those plans via cell texts including the intended time, which he didn't know was bugged. Near the appointed time goons working for the Network (including Dylan, who is probably being controlled like Phoenix) ambush Lana in the hall, break in using Dylan and attack Ema, who catches a glimpse before being knocked out. But there's still a loose end: no Phoenix, on account of him being replaced by Canon!Phoenix who leaves, gets attacked with a baseball bat, abuses a table, passes out standing up and misses the meeting "he" planned. Whatever the goons' plan was, it probably wasn't to stab Ema and set up Lana to take the fall, that was probably a hastily-made Plan B that, as we see in trial, did not stand up to scrutiny. It's likely they were attempting to catch them all together to scare them into dropping the issue with threats of violence or 'disappearing', and were forced to invent a cause for the violence that had already happened in order to cover their tracks when it was discovered. As well, the Network would assume Phoenix would take the killing as a message to get back in line before more people get hurt... but Canon!Phoenix doesn't have that context and pursues it anyway.anyway.
[[WMG: Phoenix is a [[VisualNovel/ZeroEscape SHIFTer]] ]]
That would explain what is he doing in this universe. Additionally what happened to him matches SHIFT mechanics, as [=SHIFTers=] tend to lose memories during jumps if they're out of practice. This would explain why he doesn't remember anything after Hazakura case. The white Psycholocks are blocking memories he lost when he jumped. Additionally fic was started in 2013 and while ''Zero Time Dilemma'' had yet to be created ''Virtue's Last Reward'' was already out, which means that while the term "SHIFT" itself wasn't yet created, the mechanics of jumping were already set. Additionally author referenced "clover words" from 999, meaning she most likely knows the trilogy, and could've been partially inspired.
[[WMG: Phoenix is a [[VisualNovel/ZeroEscape SHIFTer]] ]]
That would explain what is he doing in this universe. Additionally what happened to him matches SHIFT mechanics, as [=SHIFTers=] tend to lose memories during jumps if they're out of practice. This would explain why he doesn't remember anything after Hazakura case. The white Psycholocks are blocking memories he lost when he jumped. Additionally fic was started in 2013 and while ''Zero Time Dilemma'' had yet to be created ''Virtue's Last Reward'' was already out, which means that while the term "SHIFT" itself wasn't yet created, the mechanics of jumping were already set. Additionally author referenced "clover words" from 999, meaning she most likely knows the trilogy, and could've been partially inspired.
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It's implied that Prosecutor!Phoenix was in the final stages before his secret work paid off and he could neutralize the Network, and invited Ema and Lana to his apartment to fill them in on their roles. Unfortunately he made those plans via cell texts including the intended time, which he didn't know was bugged. Near the appointed time goons working for the Network (including Dylan, who is probably being controlled like Phoenix) ambush Lana in the hall, break in using Dylan and attack Ema, who catches a glimpse before being knocked out. But there's still a loose end: no Phoenix, on account of him being replaced by Canon!Phoenix who leaves, gets attacked with a baseball bat, abuses a table, passes out standing up and misses the meeting "he" planned. Whatever the goons' plan was, it probably wasn't to stab Ema and set up Lana to take the fall, that was probably a hastily-made Plan B that, as we see in trial, did not stand up to scrutiny. It's likely they were attempting to catch them all together to scare them into dropping the issue with threats of violence or 'disappearing', and were forced to invent a cause for the violence that had already happened in order to cover their tracks when it was discovered.
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It's implied that Prosecutor!Phoenix was in the final stages before his secret work paid off and he could neutralize the Network, and invited Ema and Lana to his apartment to fill them in on their roles. Unfortunately he made those plans via cell texts including the intended time, which he didn't know was bugged. Near the appointed time goons working for the Network (including Dylan, who is probably being controlled like Phoenix) ambush Lana in the hall, break in using Dylan and attack Ema, who catches a glimpse before being knocked out. But there's still a loose end: no Phoenix, on account of him being replaced by Canon!Phoenix who leaves, gets attacked with a baseball bat, abuses a table, passes out standing up and misses the meeting "he" planned. Whatever the goons' plan was, it probably wasn't to stab Ema and set up Lana to take the fall, that was probably a hastily-made Plan B that, as we see in trial, did not stand up to scrutiny. It's likely they were attempting to catch them all together to scare them into dropping the issue with threats of violence or 'disappearing', and were forced to invent a cause for the violence that had already happened in order to cover their tracks when it was discovered. As well, the Network would assume Phoenix would take the killing as a message to get back in line before more people get hurt... but Canon!Phoenix doesn't have that context and pursues it anyway.
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...or at least that Iris thought they did. The mess from Maya's letter will be used to let people think that Phoenix is into younger girls, and possibly suggest that he cheated on Iris with both Maya and Ema. This will be used as motive for Iris to kill Ema, as well as explanation of what was she doing in his apartment in the first place. Is she wants to save Dylan she'll have to pin it on ''someone'' and Iris having key to Phoenix's apartment is good possible suspect.
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...or at least that Iris thought they did. The mess from Maya's letter will be used to let people think that Phoenix is into younger girls, and possibly suggest that he cheated on Iris with both Maya and Ema. This will be used as motive for Iris to kill Ema, as well as explanation of what was she doing in his apartment in the first place. Is she wants to save Dylan she'll have to pin it on ''someone'' and Iris having key to Phoenix's apartment is good possible suspect.suspect.
[[WMG: Phoenix narrowly dodged what was supposed to be a group threat/assassination attempt at the beginning of the story]]
It's implied that Prosecutor!Phoenix was in the final stages before his secret work paid off and he could neutralize the Network, and invited Ema and Lana to his apartment to fill them in on their roles. Unfortunately he made those plans via cell texts including the intended time, which he didn't know was bugged. Near the appointed time goons working for the Network (including Dylan, who is probably being controlled like Phoenix) ambush Lana in the hall, break in using Dylan and attack Ema, who catches a glimpse before being knocked out. But there's still a loose end: no Phoenix, on account of him being replaced by Canon!Phoenix who leaves, gets attacked with a baseball bat, abuses a table, passes out standing up and misses the meeting "he" planned. Whatever the goons' plan was, it probably wasn't to stab Ema and set up Lana to take the fall, that was probably a hastily-made Plan B that, as we see in trial, did not stand up to scrutiny. It's likely they were attempting to catch them all together to scare them into dropping the issue with threats of violence or 'disappearing', and were forced to invent a cause for the violence that had already happened in order to cover their tracks when it was discovered.
[[WMG: Phoenix narrowly dodged what was supposed to be a group threat/assassination attempt at the beginning of the story]]
It's implied that Prosecutor!Phoenix was in the final stages before his secret work paid off and he could neutralize the Network, and invited Ema and Lana to his apartment to fill them in on their roles. Unfortunately he made those plans via cell texts including the intended time, which he didn't know was bugged. Near the appointed time goons working for the Network (including Dylan, who is probably being controlled like Phoenix) ambush Lana in the hall, break in using Dylan and attack Ema, who catches a glimpse before being knocked out. But there's still a loose end: no Phoenix, on account of him being replaced by Canon!Phoenix who leaves, gets attacked with a baseball bat, abuses a table, passes out standing up and misses the meeting "he" planned. Whatever the goons' plan was, it probably wasn't to stab Ema and set up Lana to take the fall, that was probably a hastily-made Plan B that, as we see in trial, did not stand up to scrutiny. It's likely they were attempting to catch them all together to scare them into dropping the issue with threats of violence or 'disappearing', and were forced to invent a cause for the violence that had already happened in order to cover their tracks when it was discovered.
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Before she died Ema mentioned "black hair" which everyone assumed is the description of the killer, but if fact she was telling him that the black her she was supposed to analyse was stolen. Ema was visiting his apartment to use the set for DNA testing on this hair but the killer came for her and stole it to prevent it from being analysed.
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Before she died Ema mentioned "black hair" which everyone assumed is the description of the killer, but if fact she was telling him that the black her she was supposed to analyse was stolen. Ema was visiting his apartment to use the set for DNA testing on this hair but the killer came for her and stole it to prevent it from being analysed.analysed.
[[WMG: Lilly will claim that Phoenix and Ema had an affair]]
...or at least that Iris thought they did. The mess from Maya's letter will be used to let people think that Phoenix is into younger girls, and possibly suggest that he cheated on Iris with both Maya and Ema. This will be used as motive for Iris to kill Ema, as well as explanation of what was she doing in his apartment in the first place. Is she wants to save Dylan she'll have to pin it on ''someone'' and Iris having key to Phoenix's apartment is good possible suspect.
[[WMG: Lilly will claim that Phoenix and Ema had an affair]]
...or at least that Iris thought they did. The mess from Maya's letter will be used to let people think that Phoenix is into younger girls, and possibly suggest that he cheated on Iris with both Maya and Ema. This will be used as motive for Iris to kill Ema, as well as explanation of what was she doing in his apartment in the first place. Is she wants to save Dylan she'll have to pin it on ''someone'' and Iris having key to Phoenix's apartment is good possible suspect.
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* Well one look at the blog and I just {{Jossed}} my own theory. Kristoph ''was'' replaced in this timeline, [[spoiler: by Diego Armando, and later Raymond Shields]]. Implications uncertain.
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* Well one look at the blog and I just {{Jossed}} my own theory. Kristoph ''was'' replaced in this timeline, [[spoiler: by Diego Armando, and later Raymond Shields]]. Implications uncertain.uncertain.
[[WMG: The "black hair" Ema mentioned was the evidence.]]
Before she died Ema mentioned "black hair" which everyone assumed is the description of the killer, but if fact she was telling him that the black her she was supposed to analyse was stolen. Ema was visiting his apartment to use the set for DNA testing on this hair but the killer came for her and stole it to prevent it from being analysed.
[[WMG: The "black hair" Ema mentioned was the evidence.]]
Before she died Ema mentioned "black hair" which everyone assumed is the description of the killer, but if fact she was telling him that the black her she was supposed to analyse was stolen. Ema was visiting his apartment to use the set for DNA testing on this hair but the killer came for her and stole it to prevent it from being analysed.
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* Well one look at the blog and I just {{Jossed}} my own theory. Kristoph ''was'' replaced in this timeline, [[spoiler: by Diego Armando]]. Implications uncertain.
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* Well one look at the blog and I just {{Jossed}} my own theory. Kristoph ''was'' replaced in this timeline, [[spoiler: by Diego Armando]].Armando, and later Raymond Shields]]. Implications uncertain.
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[[TemptingFate This one's so predictable it probably won't happen]], but bear with me. Suppose the Zak Gramarye case happens in both universes, but Phoenix is the prosecutor instead of Klavier. Without someone to replace Kristoph (poker is not Edgeworth's game), he remains Zak's defense attorney and his forgery plan goes off without a hitch. Some time later he ends up dead, and Phoenix gets implicated for his murder. The thing is, a case could be made against ''both'' Phoenix's. The case against prosecutor!Phoenix would be that he was sore from losing to Kristoph and pulled a Manfred von Karma. The case against canon!Phoenix has to do with [[ShootTheDog stopping Kristoph from killing the Mishams to cover up his forgery]] (not to mention what he might do to Zak and [[RelativeButton Trucy]]). Phoenix might even say something like "I'm not the man who killed Kristoph Gavin, [[AssholeVictim though part of me wishes I was."]] when Edgeworth goes to interview him.
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[[TemptingFate This one's so predictable it probably won't happen]], but bear with me. Suppose the Zak Gramarye case happens in both universes, but Phoenix is the prosecutor instead of Klavier. Without someone to replace Kristoph (poker is not Edgeworth's game), he remains Zak's defense attorney and his forgery plan goes off without a hitch. Some time later he ends up dead, and Phoenix gets implicated for his murder. The thing is, a case could be made against ''both'' Phoenix's. The case against prosecutor!Phoenix would be that he was sore from losing to Kristoph and pulled a Manfred von Karma. The case against canon!Phoenix has to do with [[ShootTheDog stopping Kristoph from killing the Mishams to cover up his forgery]] (not to mention what he might do to Zak and [[RelativeButton Trucy]]). Phoenix might even say something like "I'm not the man who killed Kristoph Gavin, [[AssholeVictim though part of me wishes I was."]] when Edgeworth goes to interview him.him.
* Well one look at the blog and I just {{Jossed}} my own theory. Kristoph ''was'' replaced in this timeline, [[spoiler: by Diego Armando]]. Implications uncertain.
* Well one look at the blog and I just {{Jossed}} my own theory. Kristoph ''was'' replaced in this timeline, [[spoiler: by Diego Armando]]. Implications uncertain.
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[[TemptingFate This one's so predictable it probably won't happen]], but bear with me. Suppose the Zak Gramarye case happens in both universes, but Phoenix is the prosecutor instead of Klavier. Without someone to replace Kristoph (poker is not Edgeworth's game), the latter remains Zak's defense attorney and his forgery plan goes off without a hitch. Some time later he ends up dead, and Phoenix gets implicated for his murder. The thing is, a case could be made against ''both'' Phoenix's. The case against prosecutor!Phoenix would be that he was sore from losing to Kristoph and pulled a Manfred von Karma. The case against canon!Phoenix has to do with [[ShootTheDog stopping Kristoph from killing the Mishams to cover up his forgery]] (not to mention what he might do to Zak and [[RelativeButton Trucy]]). Phoenix might even say something like "I'm not the man who killed Kristoph Gavin, [[AssholeVictim though part of me wishes I was."]] when Edgeworth goes to interview him.
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[[TemptingFate This one's so predictable it probably won't happen]], but bear with me. Suppose the Zak Gramarye case happens in both universes, but Phoenix is the prosecutor instead of Klavier. Without someone to replace Kristoph (poker is not Edgeworth's game), the latter he remains Zak's defense attorney and his forgery plan goes off without a hitch. Some time later he ends up dead, and Phoenix gets implicated for his murder. The thing is, a case could be made against ''both'' Phoenix's. The case against prosecutor!Phoenix would be that he was sore from losing to Kristoph and pulled a Manfred von Karma. The case against canon!Phoenix has to do with [[ShootTheDog stopping Kristoph from killing the Mishams to cover up his forgery]] (not to mention what he might do to Zak and [[RelativeButton Trucy]]). Phoenix might even say something like "I'm not the man who killed Kristoph Gavin, [[AssholeVictim though part of me wishes I was."]] when Edgeworth goes to interview him.
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Alternatively, Prosecutor!Phoenix is in the canon world and either is ChessmasterHoboPhoenix or is the reason Phoenix lost all his friends.
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Alternatively, Prosecutor!Phoenix is in the canon world and either is ChessmasterHoboPhoenix Chessmaster [[FanNickname Hobo Phoenix]] or is the reason Phoenix lost all his friends.
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This would explain why he had changed so much since what would have been his debut trial. After all, Portsman couldn't have been the ONLY member of the Prosecutor's Office to be in their employ.
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This would explain why he had changed so much since what would have been his debut trial. After all, Portsman couldn't have been the ONLY member of the Prosecutor's Office to be in their employ.employ.
[[WMG: Phoenix will eventually be accused of murdering Kristoph Gavin]]
[[TemptingFate This one's so predictable it probably won't happen]], but bear with me. Suppose the Zak Gramarye case happens in both universes, but Phoenix is the prosecutor instead of Klavier. Without someone to replace Kristoph (poker is not Edgeworth's game), the latter remains Zak's defense attorney and his forgery plan goes off without a hitch. Some time later he ends up dead, and Phoenix gets implicated for his murder. The thing is, a case could be made against ''both'' Phoenix's. The case against prosecutor!Phoenix would be that he was sore from losing to Kristoph and pulled a Manfred von Karma. The case against canon!Phoenix has to do with [[ShootTheDog stopping Kristoph from killing the Mishams to cover up his forgery]] (not to mention what he might do to Zak and [[RelativeButton Trucy]]). Phoenix might even say something like "I'm not the man who killed Kristoph Gavin, [[AssholeVictim though part of me wishes I was."]] when Edgeworth goes to interview him.
[[WMG: Phoenix will eventually be accused of murdering Kristoph Gavin]]
[[TemptingFate This one's so predictable it probably won't happen]], but bear with me. Suppose the Zak Gramarye case happens in both universes, but Phoenix is the prosecutor instead of Klavier. Without someone to replace Kristoph (poker is not Edgeworth's game), the latter remains Zak's defense attorney and his forgery plan goes off without a hitch. Some time later he ends up dead, and Phoenix gets implicated for his murder. The thing is, a case could be made against ''both'' Phoenix's. The case against prosecutor!Phoenix would be that he was sore from losing to Kristoph and pulled a Manfred von Karma. The case against canon!Phoenix has to do with [[ShootTheDog stopping Kristoph from killing the Mishams to cover up his forgery]] (not to mention what he might do to Zak and [[RelativeButton Trucy]]). Phoenix might even say something like "I'm not the man who killed Kristoph Gavin, [[AssholeVictim though part of me wishes I was."]] when Edgeworth goes to interview him.
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* I also noticed something recently: in the new Steel Saumrai movie, Maya and Iris are playing Mayoi the Mauve and Chinami the Crimson respectively. The latter initially confused me, as Ayame is Iris's Japanese name. Then I was looking at the NameChange page for VisualNovel/AceAttorney, and then it hit me... '''Chinami is DAHLIA'S Japanese name!''' There's a new chapter up, so this may already be confirmed, but I'll have to check it out...
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* I also noticed something recently: in the new Steel Saumrai movie, Maya and Iris are playing Mayoi the Mauve and Chinami the Crimson respectively. The latter initially confused me, as Ayame is Iris's Japanese name. Then I was looking at the NameChange page for VisualNovel/AceAttorney, ''Franchise/AceAttorney'', and then it hit me... '''Chinami is DAHLIA'S Japanese name!''' There's a new chapter up, so this may already be confirmed, but I'll have to check it out...
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[[WMG: Prosecuter!Phoenix was being forced to work for [[AceAttorneyInvestigations the smuggling ring]].]]
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[[WMG: Prosecuter!Phoenix was being forced to work for [[AceAttorneyInvestigations [[VisualNovel/AceAttorneyInvestigations the smuggling ring]].]]
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* Jossed
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* But in the Tumblr blog, Nenilen said through Mia that the spirit ISN'T Dahlia. Of course, [[NightmareFuel what kind of spirit could possibly be AS/MORE evil than Dahlia Hawthorne]]?!
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* But in the Tumblr blog, Nenilen said through Mia that the spirit ISN'T Dahlia. Of course, [[NightmareFuel what kind of spirit could possibly be AS/MORE evil than Dahlia Hawthorne]]?!
Hawthorne?!
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Explains why Edgy asked if the elevator has a history of randomly bursting into flames.
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Explains why Edgy asked if the elevator has a history of randomly bursting into flames.flames.
[[WMG: Prosecuter!Phoenix was being forced to work for [[AceAttorneyInvestigations the smuggling ring]].]]
This would explain why he had changed so much since what would have been his debut trial. After all, Portsman couldn't have been the ONLY member of the Prosecutor's Office to be in their employ.
[[WMG: Prosecuter!Phoenix was being forced to work for [[AceAttorneyInvestigations the smuggling ring]].]]
This would explain why he had changed so much since what would have been his debut trial. After all, Portsman couldn't have been the ONLY member of the Prosecutor's Office to be in their employ.
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* But in the Tumblr blog, Nenilen said through Mia that the spirit ISN'T Dahlia. Of course, [[NightmareFuel what kind of spirit could possibly be AS/MORE evil than Dahlia Hawthorne]]?!
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** [[spoiler: [[FridgeHorror She also apparently tried to kill Nick earlier by sabotaging Gumshoe's car...]]]]
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Alternatively, Prosecutor!Phoenix is in the canon world and either is ChessmasterHoboPhoenix or is the reason Phoenix lost all his friends.
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Alternatively, Prosecutor!Phoenix is in the canon world and either is ChessmasterHoboPhoenix or is the reason Phoenix lost all his friends.friends.
[[WMG: Gregory Edgeworth was killed in an incident with fire instead]]
Explains why Edgy asked if the elevator has a history of randomly bursting into flames.
[[WMG: Gregory Edgeworth was killed in an incident with fire instead]]
Explains why Edgy asked if the elevator has a history of randomly bursting into flames.
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* I also noticed something recently: in the new Steel Saumrai movie, Maya and Iris are playing Mayoi the Mauve and Chinami the Crimson respectively. The latter initially confused me, as Ayame is Iris's Japanese name. Then I was looking at the NameChange page for AceAttorney, and then it hit me... '''Chinami is DAHLIA'S Japanese name!''' There's a new chapter up, so this may already be confirmed, but I'll have to check it out...
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* I also noticed something recently: in the new Steel Saumrai movie, Maya and Iris are playing Mayoi the Mauve and Chinami the Crimson respectively. The latter initially confused me, as Ayame is Iris's Japanese name. Then I was looking at the NameChange page for AceAttorney, VisualNovel/AceAttorney, and then it hit me... '''Chinami is DAHLIA'S Japanese name!''' There's a new chapter up, so this may already be confirmed, but I'll have to check it out...
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* Jossed, the body was still hidden. WordOfGod stated that it would be found way later, but earlier compared to Gyakuten Kenji 2.
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* As it turns out, she was the suspect in the BD-7 incident, where his father was murdered.
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* I also noticed something recently: in the new Steel Saumrai movie, Maya and Iris are playing Mayoi the Mauve and Chinami the Crimson respectively. The latter initially confused me, as Ayame is Iris's Japanese name. Then I was looking at the NameChange page for AceAttorney, and then it hit me... '''Chinami is DAHLIA'S Japanese name!''' There's a new chapter up, so this may already be confirmed, but I'll have to check it out...
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* If [[spoiler: this [[http://complete-turnabout.tumblr.com/post/16879343382/miles-edgeworth-do-you-know-of-a-person-named-larry ask]]]] is to be believed, [[spoiler: this "Raymond Shields" person is probably a fanon localisation name for Shigaraki Tateyuki. "Tate" means "Shield" in Japanese, so it's not much of a stretch. ]]
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* If [[spoiler: this [[http://complete-turnabout.tumblr.com/post/16879343382/miles-edgeworth-do-you-know-of-a-person-named-larry ask]]]] is to be believed, [[spoiler: this "Raymond Shields" person is probably a fanon localisation name for Shigaraki Tateyuki. "Tate" means "Shield" in Japanese, so it's not much of a stretch. ]]
The attorney stated in chapter 26 also "used to work" for Gregory (just like Shigaraki), which brings up the question: ''used to''?]]
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The meek 'Dahlia Fey' in prison with Mia is actually Iris, it wouldn't be the first time they'd switched places. Misty Fey did see a girl from her family near Phoenix's apartment. If she's not trying to protect Maya than maybe she's doing what any branch family member should do: Protect the 'Master' at all costs. Phoenix himself even notes that alt!Dahlia was much more like her sister "this Dahlia was different. This Dahlia before me here seemed… scared, weak and fragile…
In a way, she reminded me more of Iris than of Dahlia."
In a way, she reminded me more of Iris than of Dahlia."
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The meek 'Dahlia Fey' in prison with Mia is actually Iris, it wouldn't be the first time they'd switched places. Misty Fey did see a girl from her family near Phoenix's apartment. If she's not trying to protect Maya than maybe she's doing what any branch family member should do: Protect the 'Master' at all costs. Phoenix himself even notes that alt!Dahlia was much more like her sister "this sister: "This Dahlia was different. This Dahlia before me here seemed… scared, weak and fragile…
fragile… In a way, she reminded me more of Iris than of Dahlia."
* I also think there's a twin switch going on in some form. Consider these three points. 1, Edgeworth and Phoenix have a conversation about Dahlia dying (or rather bleaching) her hair four times a year to look different from Iris, which is an odd point to give so much detail to. 2, in the letter from Maya to Prosecutor!Phoenix that Phoenix reads, Maya mentions a "hair thing" that he asked her about, saying that it might be better to ask Ema about it instead. This could refer to the way Dahlia dyes her hair, which would be an important point to consider, if Prosecutor!Phoenix thought there was a twin switch going on between his girlfriend and her sister. And it could link into the third thing. 3, Ema's last words, about "the black hair."
* Other things to consider: Iris has been Master for years, which means... she's the older one? But she also didn't want the position. Did Dahlia possibly want it or at least want to use it? Also, it's Iris's finger prints that are on Nick's door handle, and even twins have different finger prints, but who was the "Iris" that gave the sample they compare the prints to?
* I also think there's a twin switch going on in some form. Consider these three points. 1, Edgeworth and Phoenix have a conversation about Dahlia dying (or rather bleaching) her hair four times a year to look different from Iris, which is an odd point to give so much detail to. 2, in the letter from Maya to Prosecutor!Phoenix that Phoenix reads, Maya mentions a "hair thing" that he asked her about, saying that it might be better to ask Ema about it instead. This could refer to the way Dahlia dyes her hair, which would be an important point to consider, if Prosecutor!Phoenix thought there was a twin switch going on between his girlfriend and her sister. And it could link into the third thing. 3, Ema's last words, about "the black hair."
* Other things to consider: Iris has been Master for years, which means... she's the older one? But she also didn't want the position. Did Dahlia possibly want it or at least want to use it? Also, it's Iris's finger prints that are on Nick's door handle, and even twins have different finger prints, but who was the "Iris" that gave the sample they compare the prints to?
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*Confirmed. WordOfGod on the fic's Tumblr blog states that Nenilein is definitely including some GK2 characters and there are some hints in chapter 26 which suggest this could be Tateyuki. "...there is one GK2 character who will show up in this fanfic and he will play a keyrole. You might be able to identifiy him from a passage in Chapter 26, in fact…"
