History VisualNovel / SocratesJonesProPhilosopher

21st Apr '16 11:37:25 AM V2Blast
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''[[http://jayisgames.com/games/socrates-jones-pro-philosopher/ Socrates Jones: Pro Philosopher]]'' is a VisualNovel by Connor Fallon and Valeria Reznitskaya; as the title alone should indicate, it draws heavy, '''heavy''' inspiration from the ''VisualNovel/AceAttorney'' series. It's actually an EdutainmentGame designed to teach the player about debating and philosophy, but hides it well.

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''[[http://jayisgames.com/games/socrates-jones-pro-philosopher/ ''[[http://socratesjones.com/ Socrates Jones: Pro Philosopher]]'' is a VisualNovel by Connor Fallon and Valeria Reznitskaya; as the title alone should indicate, it draws heavy, '''heavy''' inspiration from the ''VisualNovel/AceAttorney'' series. It's actually an EdutainmentGame designed to teach the player about debating and philosophy, but hides it well.
21st Mar '16 9:36:59 PM Tsukiyo
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* {{Foreshadowing}]: When a bunch of philosophers start to proclaim to know the answer on the nature of morality, someone among them says that morality is purely conceptual and cannot be define. [[spoiler:That is exactly Socrates' conclusion at the end, and he got at it on his own.]]

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* {{Foreshadowing}]: {{Foreshadowing}}: When a bunch of philosophers start to proclaim to know the answer on the nature of morality, someone among them says that morality is purely conceptual and cannot be define. [[spoiler:That is exactly Socrates' conclusion at the end, and he got at it on his own.]]


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* SequelHook: [[spoiler:The Arbiter saying that Socrates will be seen again in the Intelligible Realm "in a dozen years" points towards a second part. Who knows, maybe Soc will then debate over the meaning of life or some other theme.]]
21st Mar '16 9:13:53 PM Tsukiyo
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* AmicableExes: Averted. Socrates and Ari's mother seems to have divorced in not so good terms, as Socrates points out in his rant over being late for Ari's school that her mother doesn't talk to him anymore.

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* AmicableExes: Averted. Socrates and Ari's mother seems to have divorced in not so good terms, as Socrates points out in his rant over being late for Ari's school school, that her mother doesn't talk to him anymore.



* {{Foreshadowing}]: When a bunch of philosophers start to proclaim to know the answer on the nature of morality, someone among them says that morality is purely conceptual and cannot be define. [[spoiler:That is exactly Socrates' conclusion at the end, and he got at it on his own.]]



** Socrates is named after the famous thinker who proclaimed to don't know anything in order to test other peoples' theories and believes to see if they stand solid. Unlike his namesake, however, Socrates Jones really doesn't know two things about philosophy.

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** Socrates is named after the famous thinker who proclaimed to don't know anything in order to test other peoples' theories and believes to see if they stand solid. Unlike his namesake, however, Socrates Jones really doesn't know two things about philosophy.philosophy and honestly questions things not out of rhetoric but to see if they're ''right''.



** Socrates dismisses learning about philosophy because he finds no use in poundering over the nature of good and evil. Guess on what will depends his life.

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** Socrates dismisses learning about philosophy because he finds no use in poundering pondering over the nature of good right and evil. wrong. Guess on what will depends depend his life.
21st Mar '16 4:42:49 PM Tsukiyo
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* AmicableExes: Averted. Socrates and Ari's mother seems to have divorced in not so good terms, as Socrates points out in his rant over being late for Ari's school that her mother doesn't talk to him as much anyway.

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* AmicableExes: Averted. Socrates and Ari's mother seems to have divorced in not so good terms, as Socrates points out in his rant over being late for Ari's school that her mother doesn't talk to him as much anyway.anymore.



* BerserkButton: Kant doesn't like facial hair. Imagine his shock when he realizes half of the people around him have beards.
* BigNo: Kant breaks down in the same way Hobbes did, while screaming "NEEEEEIIIIINNNN!!". [[spoiler:But if he's to be believed, he already knew and even listed in his agenda to have his philosophy questioned.]]

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* BerserkButton: Kant doesn't like facial hair. Imagine his shock when he realizes over half of the people around him have beards.
beards. And even Mill has sideburns.
* BigNo: BigNo:
** Euthyphro breaks down screaming when Socrates proved his philosophy to be flawed.
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Kant breaks down in the same way Hobbes did, while screaming "NEEEEEIIIIINNNN!!". [[spoiler:But if he's to be believed, he already knew and even listed in his agenda to have his philosophy questioned.]]



* DefeatMeansFriendship: As philosophers seek to search for the most veritable answers, all of Socrates' past opponents (even the likes of [[TheCynic Hobbes]] and [[TheFundamentalist Euthyphro]]) came to respect him and even thank him for pointing out the flaws of their statements and giving them much to think about.



** Ariadne is named after mythological Ariadne, the one who gave to Theseeus a ball of yarn to guide himself in the Minotaur's labyrinth. Just as her namesake, Ari guides her dad by teaching him the basics on debate.

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** Ariadne is named after mythological Ariadne, the one who gave to Theseeus Theseus a ball of yarn to guide himself in the Minotaur's labyrinth. Just as her namesake, Ari guides assisted her dad by teaching him the basics on debate.



* NiceGuy: John Stuart Mill, unlike most of the philosophers you face, is humble, friendly, and not easily offended, and in fact defends Socrates when Ari is fangirlishly angry with Socrates for challenging him. Immanuel Kant is also a pretty decent guy, who only acted as an insufferable genius at the beginning in order to appeal at his schedule and actually takes his defeat rather well.

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* NiceGuy: NiceGuy:
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John Stuart Mill, unlike most of the philosophers you face, is humble, friendly, and not easily offended, and in fact defends Socrates when Ari is fangirlishly angry with Socrates for challenging him. him.
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Immanuel Kant is also a pretty decent guy, who only acted as an insufferable genius at the beginning in order to appeal at his schedule and actually takes his defeat rather well.well.
** Protagoras as well. Thanks to mistaking Soc with his old friend, Protagoras is polite and friendly with him.


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* StrawNihilist: Conversed when The Arbiter mentions that Nietzsche volunteered to debate with Socrates. He mentions that he's quite famous and quoted a lot by "[[{{Emo}} angsty teenagers]]".


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* TwitchyEye: Euthyphro's shocked animation comes with a twitchy eye.
21st Mar '16 12:10:42 PM Tsukiyo
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* ExactWords: Socrates is only able to fight back against [[spoiler:The Arbiter]] after he pointed out that [[spoiler:he never said that morality ''didn't'' exist as The Arbiter believed, just that it was impossible to find.]]

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* ExactWords: Socrates is only able to fight back against [[spoiler:The Arbiter]] after he pointed out that [[spoiler:he never said that morality ''didn't'' exist as The Arbiter believed, just that it was impossible to find.define.]]
21st Mar '16 11:49:56 AM Tsukiyo
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* {{Adorkable}}: Socrates is a mere accountant who barely can grap philosophy, and has his job oftenly mocked and demeaned by everyone in the Intelligence Realm. His putting-a hand-behind-his head animationmakes him even more endearing.

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* {{Adorkable}}: Socrates is a mere accountant who barely can grap philosophy, and has his job oftenly mocked and demeaned by everyone in the Intelligence Intelligible Realm. His putting-a hand-behind-his head animationmakes animation makes him even more endearing.



* AndZoidberg: As Socrates is giving his goodbyes to the philosophers he faced before, he says that all of them were great to meet...except maybe Euthyphro. And yes, Socrates did include Hobbes.

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* AndZoidberg: As Socrates is giving his goodbyes to the philosophers he faced before, he says that all of them were great to meet...except maybe Euthyphro. And yes, Socrates did include Hobbes.[[GrumpyOldMan Hobbes]].
20th Mar '16 6:18:52 PM Tsukiyo
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* BerserkButton: Kant doesn't like facial hair. Imagine his shock when he realizes half of the people around him have beards.



* ExactWords: Socrates is only able to begin his debate with [[spoiler:The Arbiter]] after he pointed out that [[spoiler:he never said that morality ''didn't'' exist, just that it was impossible to find.]]

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* ExactWords: Socrates is only able to begin his debate with fight back against [[spoiler:The Arbiter]] after he pointed out that [[spoiler:he never said that morality ''didn't'' exist, exist as The Arbiter believed, just that it was impossible to find.]]



* {{Fangirl}}: Ariadne, for John Stuart Mill.

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* {{Fangirl}}: Ariadne, for John Stuart Mill. She really digs the ForHappiness aspects of his Act Utilitalianism.



** Socrates is named after famous thinker who proclaimed to don't know anything in order to test other peoples' theories and believes to see if they stand solid. Unlike his namesake, however, Socrates Jones really doesn't know two things about philosophy.

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** Socrates is named after the famous thinker who proclaimed to don't know anything in order to test other peoples' theories and believes to see if they stand solid. Unlike his namesake, however, Socrates Jones really doesn't know two things about philosophy.
20th Mar '16 6:14:55 PM SonicLover
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* BerserkButton: Kant doesn't like facial hair. Imagine his shock when he realizes half of the people around him have beards.
20th Mar '16 6:08:44 PM Tsukiyo
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* AndZoiberg: As Socrates is giving his goodbyes to the philosophers he faced before, he says that all of them were great to meet...except maybe Euthyphro. And yes, Socrates did include Hobbes.

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* AndZoiberg: {{Adorkable}}: Socrates is a mere accountant who barely can grap philosophy, and has his job oftenly mocked and demeaned by everyone in the Intelligence Realm. His putting-a hand-behind-his head animationmakes him even more endearing.
* AmicableExes: Averted. Socrates and Ari's mother seems to have divorced in not so good terms, as Socrates points out in his rant over being late for Ari's school that her mother doesn't talk to him as much anyway.
* AndZoidberg:
As Socrates is giving his goodbyes to the philosophers he faced before, he says that all of them were great to meet...except maybe Euthyphro. And yes, Socrates did include Hobbes.
20th Mar '16 5:52:38 PM Tsukiyo
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** Ariadne is named after mythological Ariadne, the one who gave to Theseeus a ball of yarn to guide himself in the Minotaur's laberynth. Just as her namesake, Ari guides her dad by teaching him the basics on debate.

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** Ariadne is named after mythological Ariadne, the one who gave to Theseeus a ball of yarn to guide himself in the Minotaur's laberynth.labyrinth. Just as her namesake, Ari guides her dad by teaching him the basics on debate.


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* PapaWolf: Once he learns that [[spoiler:Ari's life is at much risk as his own]], Socrates demands to the Arbiter to bring forth his best philosopher to get things over quickly.
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