History VisualNovel / Ever17

24th Jan '18 5:36:42 PM nombretomado
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* VerbalTic: Sara, being a ninja fangirl, sometimes refers to herself as "[[JapanesePronouns sessha]]" and ends sentences with the archaic "de gozaru". The translation renders this as over-the-top flowery AntiquatedLinguistics.

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* VerbalTic: Sara, being a ninja fangirl, sometimes refers to herself as "[[JapanesePronouns "[[UsefulNotes/JapanesePronouns sessha]]" and ends sentences with the archaic "de gozaru". The translation renders this as over-the-top flowery AntiquatedLinguistics.
11th Jan '18 11:07:13 AM NNinja
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* ReallySevenHundredYearsOld: [[spoiler:Tsugumi]], who stopped aging at [[spoiler:seventeen]] due to [[spoiler:her genetic code being rewritten by the Cure virus. By the end of the game, Takeshi, You'haru, Kaburaki and Coco have also become this.]]
2nd Jan '18 1:50:34 PM NNinja
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* BreakTheCutie: [[spoiler:After the first incident, Tsugumi become homeless and gave birth to twins. She got a very low paying job that barely let her make ends meet, but was forced to give up her children so they could have normal lives without being pursued by Leiblich.]] The experience hasn't been kind to her, though the damage isn't as bad as it looks at first [[spoiler:and when she gets her kids and Takeshi back she's psychologically and emotionally healthier than she has been at any time since she was about twelve.]]
2nd Jan '18 10:23:28 AM NNinja
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* ShanaClone: Tsugumi.
2nd Jan '18 9:55:42 AM NNinja
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* DubInducedPlotHole: Tthe INeverToldYouMyName moment in [[spoiler: Kid's part of Coco's route]]. The trainslation team forgot to insert the most important part, actually using the name a character isn't supposed to know.



* INeverToldYouMyName: [[spoiler: When Kid meets Sara on Coco's route the first time she calls her by her real name even though he should only know the nickname You used.]]



* [[spoiler:OurHeroIsDead: Takeshi in both of his routes, of course.]]

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* [[spoiler:OurHeroIsDead: Takeshi OurHeroIsDead: [[spoiler:Takeshi in both of his routes, of course.]]



* StrongFamilyResemblance: [[spoiler:Hokuto and Sara]] bear little resemblance to either of their parents. [[spoiler: Hokuto]] looks notably different than his father, though [[spoiler:he is still handsome]]. Also, [[spoiler:Hokuto is much smarter than Takeshi, though less decisive and reckless.]]
1st Jan '18 12:28:55 PM NNinja
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* DitzyGenius: Sara is perhaps the silliest character, saying the silliest things (both how she says them and what she says, though a lot of it is lost in the English translation), but she is a genius, especially when it comes to computers. [[spoiler:Judging by the flashbacks, her silly personality seems to be due to associating with You.]] Coco is silly too, but she's a TokenMiniMoe so it's expected.
** You seems to be pretty smart too, but most of silliness seems to stem from the fact that she's a GenkiGirl.
1st Jan '18 4:50:23 AM NNinja
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* EarnYourHappyEnding

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* EarnYourHappyEndingEarnYourHappyEnding: The final route. Until that point each character went through: crashed underwater amusement park [[spoiler: twice in Ryogo and Tsugumi's case, Tief Blau infection, being seperated from family member for years, being hunted by evil MegaCorp, cryostasis, 17 years of plotting to save two friends]] or all of the above. But ultimately it ended well for everyone.



* GoldenEnding: In the True Ending, not only [[spoiler:does everyone make it out alive]] but [[spoiler:Sora's memories are intact even though that should be impossible and a lot of the fighting and bitterness was tweaked so that the week everyone spent underwater was less stressful. Leiblich was set up for a fall over the seventeen year period as well and is exposed as soon as everyone is out of IBF.]] The only negative note is that [[spoiler:the seventeen year period between the two events must remain exactly as everyone remembers it, meaning Tsugumi has to give up Hokuto and Sara while living with the belief that Takeshi is dead.]]
* GoMadFromTheRevelation: The Kid has brief moments of mental stress no less than three times when he starts to discover his past. You does this rather comically when she learns part of the Kid's past as well.



* GoMadFromTheRevelation: The Kid has brief moments of mental stress no less than three times when he starts to discover his past. You does this rather comically when she learns part of the Kid's past as well.



* GoOutWithASmile: Several characters in bad endings.



* IdiotBall: [[spoiler:My friends are cryogenically frozen at the bottom of the ocean, and have been for 17 years already? Well, let me just grab a stone and jump and sink to the bottom of said ocean, instead of just calmly asking someone for a submarine. You"haru" even calls Blick Winkel out on it.]]



** [[spoiler: Hokuto/Blick Winkel also have their moments. The most notable is at the end of the final path - my friends are cryogenically frozen at the bottom of the ocean, and have been for 17 years already? Well, let me just grab a stone and jump and sink to the bottom of said ocean, instead of just calmly asking someone for a submarine. You"haru" even calls Hokuto/BW out on it.]]



* InformedSpecies: That plump, vacant-eyed mascot is a lemur, not a tanuki.



* LoveTriangle: Sora, Takeshi and Tsugumi. Obvious in both of his routes but only really problematic in Sora's [[spoiler:when both have mild breakdowns because of him, with Tsugumi apparently raping Takeshi on the Gondola after asking him to kill her and Sora's reaction of a mental breakdown through jealousy.]] The Kid as well, sort of, but his two choices aren't a BrokenBird with a SugarAndIcePersonality and a TinMan with [[WhatIsThisThingYouCallLove emotional expression issues]].
** Though one of them is [[spoiler:[[BrotherSisterIncest his sister]]]]. Good thing the other one is the "canonical"/True Ending love interest, huh?
*** All the {{UST}} between [[spoiler:Sara]] and the Kid admittedly does disappear instantly after that reveal. But there was more there than in any other route in the game which is mildly disturbing.

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* LoveTriangle: Sora, Takeshi and Tsugumi. Obvious in both of his routes but only really problematic in Sora's [[spoiler:when both have mild breakdowns because of him, with Tsugumi apparently raping Takeshi on the Gondola after asking him to kill her and Sora's reaction of a mental breakdown through jealousy.]] The Kid as well, sort of, but his two choices aren't a BrokenBird with a SugarAndIcePersonality and a TinMan with [[WhatIsThisThingYouCallLove emotional expression issues]].
** Though one of them is [[spoiler:[[BrotherSisterIncest his sister]]]]. Good thing the other one is the "canonical"/True Ending love interest, huh?
*** All the {{UST}} between [[spoiler:Sara]] and the Kid admittedly does disappear instantly after that reveal. But there was more there than in any other route in the game which is mildly disturbing.
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* MurderTheHypotenuse: Subverted in [[spoiler:Sora's]] route: she decides to [[spoiler:try to kill Takeshi]] instead.
** WomanScorned



* ThePlan / BatmanGambit: [[spoiler:The entire storyline is a massive trick, played by the player perspective, on himself.]]
* [[spoiler:PlayerAndProtagonistIntegration: Uses the "you are you" variant. ([[PunnyName And no, that does not mean you are You]].) The true protagonist is the perspective behind Takeshi and the Kid: a fourth dimensional being who can freely move through the timestream and influence certain important events (in other words, a video game player).]]
** [[spoiler:FeaturelessProtagonist]] / [[spoiler:HeroicMime]]: However, these tropes are, rather bizarrely, averted. [[spoiler:Despite supposedly being the player, a concept that should be undefinable, Blick Winkel has not only defined characteristics ([[MostGamersAreMale he's male, for instance]]), but lines of his own, making him another character of the story rather than a true representation of the player.]]

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* ThePlan / BatmanGambit: ThePlan: [[spoiler:The entire storyline is a massive trick, played by the player perspective, on himself.]]
* [[spoiler:PlayerAndProtagonistIntegration: PlayerAndProtagonistIntegration:[[spoiler: Uses the "you are you" variant. ([[PunnyName And no, that does not mean you are You]].) The true protagonist is the perspective behind Takeshi and the Kid: a fourth dimensional being who can freely move through the timestream and influence certain important events (in other words, a video game player).]]
** [[spoiler:FeaturelessProtagonist]] / [[spoiler:HeroicMime]]: However, these tropes are, rather bizarrely, averted. [[spoiler:Despite supposedly being the player, a concept that should be undefinable, Blick Winkel has not only defined characteristics ([[MostGamersAreMale he's male, for instance]]), but lines of his own, making him another character of the story rather than a true representation of the player.
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* [[PsychicPowers Psyyyyychic Powers]]: Coco claims to have this (spelled like that too), [[spoiler:though the extent of her powers is vague. Her feats, however, include the ability to "borrow" the perspective of beings from "the other side" (the 4th dimension), enabling her to see the past, present, and future of everyone in [=LeMU=] (which would explain how she knows everything about what Blick Winkel eventually finds out). She's also able to project herself across time, allowing her to speak directly to Hokuto/Blick Winkel, in addition to actually being able to see the latter when they travel across time. [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking Oh, and she can bend spoons with her mind.]]]]

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* [[PsychicPowers Psyyyyychic Powers]]: PsychicPowers: Coco claims to have this (spelled like that too), this, [[spoiler:though the extent of her powers is vague. Her feats, however, include the ability to "borrow" the perspective of beings from "the other side" (the 4th dimension), enabling her to see the past, present, and future of everyone in [=LeMU=] (which would explain how she knows everything about what Blick Winkel eventually finds out). She's also able to project herself across time, allowing her to speak directly to Hokuto/Blick Winkel, in addition to actually being able to see the latter when they travel across time. [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking Oh, and she can bend spoons with her mind.]]]]


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* WhamLine: You's route offers one.
-> You:[[spoiler: My name is... Tanaka... Youbiseiakikana.]]
31st Dec '17 12:43:55 PM NNinja
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* GreaterScopeVillain: Leiblich Pharmaceutical. Their actions are important to the backstory of several characters but their machinations and fight with them occurs entirely off-screen and they dorm no immediate threat to the characters.


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* NoAntagonist: The charaters try to survive in flooded amusement park which is several days away from colapsing. There are some bad guys mentioned, but their villainy is of-screen and they don't provide direct opposition.
28th Oct '17 10:13:31 PM ergeis
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** Uchikoshi finally revealed in an interview why he chose 17 as the arc number: his birthday is on the 17th. This took Nakazawa by surprise now knowing that there really wasn't that deep of a reason to choose 17.

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** Uchikoshi finally revealed in an interview why he chose 17 as the arc number: his birthday is on the 17th. This took Nakazawa by surprise now knowing that there really wasn't that [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotSymbolic deep of a reason to choose 17.17]].
28th Oct '17 5:40:36 PM sheika
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* ShanaClone: Tsugumi.
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