History VisualNovel / Cinders

26th Oct '17 6:25:13 PM TriumphantMagician
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* GameplayAndStorySegregation: The script clearly advocates independence and a realistic outlook, yet makes the Evil Queen ending more likely if a player expresses this. The script overall suffers from a lack of tangible morality choices, so 'good' is equivalent to 'passive' and 'cynical' to 'murderous tyrant.' Making the decision that Cinders' abusive stepfamily "should get what they deserve" results in the [=PC=] being labelled 'evil', regardless of how realistic such resentment would be in a similar real-life situation.



* TheHighQueen: The Fair Queen is this. The Good Queen [[spoiler:subverts this.]]

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* TheHighQueen: The Fair Queen is this. [[spoiler: The Good Queen [[spoiler:subverts subverts this.]]
24th Oct '17 3:26:38 AM Heart
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* TheUnreveal: The Fairy Queen refuses to say ''what'' the price of Cinders' contract with the fey folk will be, if she chooses to accept their aid - only that it will reveal itself in due time.
24th Oct '17 3:21:29 AM Heart
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* BabiesEverAfter: [[spoiler:In the Independent Woman ending, if Cinders romanced Tobias, they eventually marry and have several children together.]]



* OptionalSexualEncounter: With Tobias.



* VictoriousChildhoodFriend: Tobias, if you focus on him.

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* VictoriousChildhoodFriend: Tobias, if you focus on choose to pursue a romance with him.
22nd Oct '17 5:53:53 PM nombretomado
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** One of your possible love interests is named [[CharlesPerrault Perrault]]. No, really.

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** One of your possible love interests is named [[CharlesPerrault [[Creator/CharlesPerrault Perrault]]. No, really.
21st May '17 5:17:09 PM TriumphantMagician
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* TheOldestProfession: If their relationship is bad enough, Sophia can snidely ask Cinders if she works as a prostitute.



* WorldsOldestProfession: If they relationship is bad enough, Sophia can snidely ask if Cinders works as a prostitute.
21st May '17 5:15:08 PM TriumphantMagician
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* WoundedGazelleWarcry: Cinders can threaten to frame the Shady Character with assault and send the guards after him if he refuses to share some information she wants.


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* WorldsOldestProfession: If they relationship is bad enough, Sophia can snidely ask if Cinders works as a prostitute.
* WoundedGazelleWarcry: Cinders can threaten to frame the Shady Character with assault and send the guards after him if he refuses to share some information she wants.
21st May '17 4:47:42 PM TriumphantMagician
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* WomanInWhite: The Fairy [[spoiler: can either be a straight, or subverted example.]]

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* WomanInWhite: WomanInWhite:
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The Fairy [[spoiler: is pale and translucent, surrounded by mystical lights, and has a history with Cinders' mother. However, players have the option to ignore her in favor of Madame Ghede, thus subverting the trope.
** Cinders herself
can either play with this trope. If she goes to the Fairy for help, her ball gown will be entirely in white and she'll catch the prince's attention, but she can decline a straight, or subverted example.]]marriage proposal from him.
14th May '17 6:17:37 PM QueenofSwords
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* KickTheSonOfABitch: Cinders has the option of doing this by [[spoiler:killing Carmosa via poison.]] Sure, it's a terrible thing to do, but given that the victim is a horrible person who [[spoilers:verbally and emotionally abuses her daughters (blood or otherwise) and treats Cinders like a slave, making it abundantly clear that under the ''best'' of circumstances that she intends to have her as a servant forever]], it really comes off as more of a case of TheDogBitesBack.

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* KickTheSonOfABitch: Cinders has the option of doing this by [[spoiler:killing Carmosa via poison.]] Sure, it's a terrible thing to do, but given that the victim is a horrible person who [[spoilers:verbally [[spoiler:verbally and emotionally abuses her daughters (blood or otherwise) and treats Cinders like a slave, making it abundantly clear that under the ''best'' of circumstances that she intends to have her as a servant forever]], it really comes off as more of a case of TheDogBitesBack.TheDogBitesBack, rather than any crossing of the MoralEventHorizon.
14th May '17 6:11:22 PM QueenofSwords
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** If you take the Fairy as your helper, it's implied that she had a part in Cinders' mother dying.

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** If you take the Fairy as your helper, it's implied that she had a part in Cinders' [[spoiler:Cinders' mother dying.dying]].


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* KickTheSonOfABitch: Cinders has the option of doing this by [[spoiler:killing Carmosa via poison.]] Sure, it's a terrible thing to do, but given that the victim is a horrible person who [[spoilers:verbally and emotionally abuses her daughters (blood or otherwise) and treats Cinders like a slave, making it abundantly clear that under the ''best'' of circumstances that she intends to have her as a servant forever]], it really comes off as more of a case of TheDogBitesBack.
14th May '17 5:49:05 PM QueenofSwords
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** The Shady Character gives this to [[spoiler:Madame Ghede, who manipulates Cinders into letting her repay her debt to the latter's mother cheaply - or to the Fairy of the Lake, who is ''heavily'' implied to have caused Cinders mother to suffer DeathByChildbirth as part of the Concord she had with her.]]

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** The Shady Character gives this to [[spoiler:Madame Ghede, who manipulates Cinders into letting her repay her debt to the latter's mother cheaply - or to the Fairy of the Lake, who is ''heavily'' implied to have caused Cinders mother to suffer DeathByChildbirth as part of the Concord she had with her.]]her]] in the endings.
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