History VisualNovel / ApolloJusticeAceAttorney

24th Aug '16 8:58:49 AM OlfinBedwere
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* AntiHero: Uniquely among the series so far, every one of the game's defendants is guilty of ''some'' crime, just not murder:
** In the first case, Phoenix [[spoiler:tampers with a crime scene and knowingly supplies Apollo with forged evidence]].
** In the second case, Wocky Kitaki at the very least [[spoiler:attempted to assassinate a rival gangster, even if it went horribly wrong and nearly ended is his own death]], would likely have killed Pal Meraktis if [[spoiler:Alita Tiala]] hadn't gotten to him first, and probably committed other, minor crimes as well.
** In the third case, Machi Tobaye [[spoiler:was an accomplice in Daryan Crescend's plot to smuggle a Borginian coccoon into the country]]. Note that Machi is the only person who actually suffers any legal consequences for their crime, and even then it's implied that he'll get a slap on the wrist in exchange for him ratting out [[spoiler:Daryan]].
** In the fourth case, Vera Misham [[spoiler:created an untold number of forgeries]], albeit with her father really being the brains of their operation.
** In the flashback segment of the fourth case, Zak Gramarye actually ''wasn't'' guilty of any crimes prior to his court case (unless you count his part in covering up [[spoiler:Thalassa's apparent death]]), but he subsequently [[spoiler:became a fugitive when he was about to be declared guilty]].
15th Aug '16 7:43:29 AM OlfinBedwere
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* PosthumousCharacter: Unusually for the series, only two victims are outright examples of this in the game, namely [[spoiler:Pal Meraktis and Magnifi Gramarye]]. A further two ([[spoiler:Shadi Smith/Zak Gramarye and Drew Misham]]) zig-zag the trope by being dead the first time they're mentioned in the story's present, but later showing up and interacting with Phoenix during the flashback segments of Case 4. Finally, not only is [[spoiler:Romein [=LeTouse=]]] interacted with before his death, but to date he's the only character in the series whose moment of death is shown as it happens, and witnessed by the main characters.
31st Jul '16 9:01:14 PM Chariset
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* StealthMentor: Phoenix to Apollo. He gives the poor kid almost everything except a straight answer, but it's all in the name of helping him realize what's really going on.
-->'''Phoenix''': Sometimes the straightest path to the truth isn't the best one...



* TricksterMentor: Phoenix to Apollo. He gives the poor kid almost everything except a straight answer, but it's all in the name of helping him realize what's really going on.
-->'''Phoenix''': Sometimes the straightest path to the truth isn't the best one...



** Lamioir from case 3 is [[spoiler: revealed to be Apollo and Trucy's mother when a shot of her bracelet reveals it is the same as Apollo's.]]

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** Lamioir Lamiroir from case 3 is [[spoiler: revealed to be Apollo and Trucy's mother when a shot of her bracelet reveals it is the same as Apollo's.]]
24th Jul '16 5:30:44 PM Chariset
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* ExactWords: Phoenix isn't above using this. For example, he testified under oath that he wore a locket with a picture of his daughter inside -- perfectly true, even though technically it wasn't ''his'' locket.



--> '''Apollo''' And with a whirl of his cloak and a wink of his eye... he turned and walked through the door... Normally

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--> '''Apollo''' And with a whirl of his cloak and a wink of his eye... he turned and walked through the door... Normally Normally.
* StealthMentor: Phoenix to Apollo. He gives the poor kid almost everything except a straight answer, but it's all in the name of helping him realize what's really going on.
-->'''Phoenix''': Sometimes the straightest path to the truth isn't the best one...
7th Jul '16 7:31:22 AM Morgenthaler
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** On the other hand, you no longer have [[TheObiWan Mia]] to bail you out, the cases require you to tie ''everything'' together, and some elements of MoonLogicPuzzle remain. Your mileage may vary on whether or not the game is less difficult or just [[SaveScumming less frustrating]].

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** On the other hand, you no longer have [[TheObiWan Mia]] Mia to bail you out, the cases require you to tie ''everything'' together, and some elements of MoonLogicPuzzle remain. Your mileage may vary on whether or not the game is less difficult or just [[SaveScumming less frustrating]].
23rd Jun '16 11:13:26 PM OrangenChan
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* WhatHappenedToTheMouse: It's never explained why Drew Misham [[spoiler:had sketches relating to Apollo's first 3 cases]].
23rd Jun '16 7:01:19 PM Siggu
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* INeverSaidItWasPoison: [[spoiler:Kristoph has ''three'' screw-ups in the first case that allow Phoenix to point him as the real murderer. To sum them up:]]
** [[spoiler:When Phoenix calls him about the victim being murdered, Kristoph makes a reference to the victim's bald head, when Shadi had his hat on until he died, so Kristoph shouldn't have known about that fact. This makes Phoenix cast his suspicions on him]].
** [[spoiler:Early into the trial, he describes the poker game between Phoenix and Shadi and makes an offhand mention that the poker cards had a blue back. However, the only (At that moment) photo shown that had the cards was in black and white, the poker deck that was actually used in the last hand had red backs and the card that was put in place of the bloody ace had a blue back. This inevitably places Kristoph at the crime scene at some point after the murder and before Phoenix manipulated the crime scene]].
** [[spoiler:The final nail in his coffin is that, when Apollo presents the bloody ace, Kristoph ''immediately'' (And angrily) points the fact that bloody ace is forged, instead of merely showing doubts about such a convenient piece of evidence. While he's right in that it's a forgery, the way he reacted proves the fact Kristoph knew about the real bloody ace, that he took it away from the crime scene, and that he really is the murderer]].


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* RightForTheWrongReasons: [[spoiler:The forged diary page. Turns out, Magnifi ''did'' kill himself after all ([[UnreliableNarrator Or so Valant claims]]). Kristoph managed to figure it out (Or be AccidentallyAccurate) 7 years before everyone else]].
6th Jun '16 11:56:58 AM SolidSonicTH
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* LateArrivalSpoiler: Capcom seems somewhat intent on avoiding this with [[spoiler:Kristoph]]. For instance [[http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/aceattorney/images/d/df/AA_Group_Shot.png/revision/latest?cb=20151224213346 this promotional image]], released for the 10th anniversary of the series (and about four years after ''Gyakuten Saiban 4'' was released in Japan), shows him standing with all the other protagonists of the series.

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* LateArrivalSpoiler: Capcom seems somewhat intent on avoiding this with [[spoiler:Kristoph]]. For instance [[http://vignette1.[[http://aceattorney.wikia.nocookie.net/aceattorney/images/d/df/AA_Group_Shot.png/revision/latest?cb=20151224213346 com/wiki/File:AA_Group_Shot.png this promotional image]], released for the 10th anniversary of the series (and about four years after ''Gyakuten Saiban 4'' was released in Japan), shows him standing with all the other protagonists of the series.
6th Jun '16 11:55:55 AM SolidSonicTH
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* LateArrivalSpoiler: Capcom seems somewhat intent on [[DefiedTrope defying]] this with [[spoiler:Kristoph]]. For instance [[http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/aceattorney/images/d/df/AA_Group_Shot.png/revision/latest?cb=20151224213346 this promotional image]], released for the 10th anniversary of the series (and about four years after ''Gyakuten Saiban 4'' was released in Japan), shows him standing with all the other protagonists of the series.

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* LateArrivalSpoiler: Capcom seems somewhat intent on [[DefiedTrope defying]] avoiding this with [[spoiler:Kristoph]]. For instance [[http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/aceattorney/images/d/df/AA_Group_Shot.png/revision/latest?cb=20151224213346 this promotional image]], released for the 10th anniversary of the series (and about four years after ''Gyakuten Saiban 4'' was released in Japan), shows him standing with all the other protagonists of the series.
6th Jun '16 9:09:55 AM SolidSonicTH
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* LateArrivalSpoiler: Capcom seems somewhat intent on [[DefiedTrope defying]] this with [[spoiler:Kristoph]]. For instance [[http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/aceattorney/images/d/df/AA_Group_Shot.png/revision/latest?cb=20151224213346 this promotional image]], released for the 10th anniversary of the series (and about four years after ''Gyakuten Saiban 4'' was released in Japan), shows him standing with all the other protagonists of the series.
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