History ViewerGenderConfusion / VideoGames

24th May '18 12:18:09 PM Shadoboy
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** Spyke is a man but due to his long fingers, long hair, and skinny build he is occasionally mistaken for a woman.

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** Spyke is a man but due to his long fingers, long hair, and skinny build he is occasionally mistaken for a woman. Doesn't help that he reffers to your character as "Love", regardless of gender.
29th Apr '18 2:40:32 PM Pichu-kun
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** Sheik is definitely a contender for Queen of this trope. WordOfGod has it she's female, but would you know that on your first playthrough of ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime Ocarina of Time]]'', what with the Nintendo 64's limited graphical horsepower? [[BrokenBase Sheik has single-handedly divided the entire Zelda fanbase on the issue of their gender, and continues to do so today]], even witn WordOfGod consistently calling her female. Of course, this one is interesting because Sheik is actually the (quite obviously female) Zelda- the real issue is "is she disguised as a man, or does she transform into a man?" The (only canon to itself) manga adaptation has implications that she transformed (more like brainwashed, if you pay attention, and Link does make a passing comment that their body is dainty), while ''Super Smash Bros.'' says it was just a disguise and gave their Sheik a GirlinessUpgrade starting with ''Brawl''. What version counts as WordOfGod depends on who you ask. It ''really'' does not help that Ruto actually calls Sheik a man at one point, or that Sheik's concept art looks pretty masculine... Ruto could have mistaken her for a man though and some fans argue Sheik has an athletic female physique. The one time you hear Sheik's voice in the game, it sounds female however it's an easily unnoticeable moment.

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** Sheik is definitely a contender for Queen of this trope. WordOfGod has it she's female, but would you know that on your first playthrough of ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOcarinaOfTime Ocarina of Time]]'', what with the Nintendo 64's limited graphical horsepower? [[BrokenBase Sheik has single-handedly divided the entire Zelda fanbase on the issue of their gender, and continues to do so today]], even witn with WordOfGod consistently calling her female. Of course, this one is interesting because Sheik is actually the (quite obviously female) Zelda- the real issue is "is she disguised as a man, or does she transform into a man?" The (only canon to itself) manga adaptation has implications that she transformed (more like brainwashed, if you pay attention, and Link does make a passing comment that their body is dainty), while ''Super Smash Bros.'' says it was just a disguise and gave their Sheik a GirlinessUpgrade starting with ''Brawl''. What version counts as WordOfGod depends on who you ask. It ''really'' does not help that Ruto actually calls Sheik a man at one point, or that Sheik's concept art looks pretty masculine... Ruto could have mistaken her for a man though man, though, and some fans argue Sheik has an athletic female physique. The one time you hear Sheik's voice in the game, it sounds female female, however it's an easily unnoticeable moment.moment. Then there's PronounTrouble on whether Sheik should be referred to with female pronouns because she's a SweetPollyOliver or whether male pronouns should be used because the disguise is presumably male. Even official Nintendo sources differ, as ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros'' uses feminine pronouns (though Sheik as of ''Brawl'' seems to be {{bifauxnen}}, not actively pretending to be male), the English ''VideoGame/HyruleWarriors'' text avoids pronouns, and the Japanese ''Hyrule Warriors'' text describes Sheik as male.



* Arno from ''[[VideoGame/SummonNight Summon Night 2: Swordcraft Story]]''. Is it a boy, or a girl? Th characters never find out, Arno never goes by any sort of pronoun and him/herself a "child of the wind", and doesn't know their own gender...The only clue we ever get is one of the villains shouting "you neutered freak!" And it's not even a big clue at all. Seriously, [[http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2030/2270354388_04c3ef5ed8.jpg?v=0 you tell me.]]

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* Arno from ''[[VideoGame/SummonNight Summon Night 2: Swordcraft Story]]''.''VideoGame/SummonNightSwordcraftStory''. Is it a boy, or a girl? Th characters never find out, Arno never goes by any sort of pronoun and him/herself a "child of the wind", and doesn't know their own gender...The only clue we ever get is one of the villains shouting "you neutered freak!" And it's not even a big clue at all. Seriously, [[http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2030/2270354388_04c3ef5ed8.jpg?v=0 you tell me.]]



** Ness falls victim to this for the ''Videogame/SuperSmashBros'' players who haven't played Videogame/{{Earthbound}} before.

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** Ness falls victim to this for the ''Videogame/SuperSmashBros'' players who haven't played Videogame/{{Earthbound}} ''Videogame/{{Earthbound}}'' before.



* ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'':
** Bugsy has somewhat long hair, is too young to make out sexual characteristics, has an unusual name that isn't easily gender identifiable, has an all-female team, and wears rather [[WhoWearsShortShorts ambiguous clothes]]. Hey, your guess is as good as mine. [[Manga/PokemonSpecial Two]] [[Manga/PokemonGoldenBoys different]] manga have had their protagonists [[UnsettlingGenderReveal mistake him]] for a girl, something that rarely happens in-series.
** Despite being an adult man, Will of the Elite Four has the same issue as Bugsy--his entire team is female and he has androgynous clothes. Both his in-game sprite and the Sugimori art also give him HartmanHips.
** Lana from ''Sun and Moon'' is almost just as bad as Bugsy, due to her clothes, hair-style, and even face looking totally gender-ambiguous. The only thing that saves her is her name being a real female name unlike Bugsy.
** Also, [[PlayboyBunny Lo]][[KillerRabbit punny]]. There is a 50/50 chance that the Pokémon is a male/female, and it doesn't help that (s)he has a feminine appearance. It helps even less that most people say the name is a caricature of ''{{Playboy Bunn|y}}ies''.
** A better example would be the Ralts line. While Ralts itself looks like a small child with a gender-neutral figure, the evolutions are ballerina based. However their "clothing" is feminine. As in "female tutu" and "dress" feminine. They gained a male counterpart the next gen, however you still have to go through the Kirlia stage and the males evolve into Gallade by a (somewhat rare) evolutionary stone; also, male Gardevoir still exist. Even odder, Gardevoir has a very masculine name in Japan: Sirknight, which has both "Sir" and "knight" in it (while knights can be female, we typically think of male ones); though it may also refer to "come, Knight". To make it even worse, [[VideoGame/PokemonXAndY Mega Gardevoir]] appears to be wearing a ball dress.
** And then there's the [[VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite Generation V]] counterparts [[ElegantGothicLolita Gothita, Gothorita and Gothitelle]], which have a 25% chance of being male.
** Some people have mistook Hitmonchan for a female due to its shirt awfully resembling a dress. (Though Bulbapedia calls it a 'kilt')
** You can get female Machop, Machoke and Machamp, even though they all look like bodybuilders in speedos. (Or some wimpy, naked dude with a tail in Machop's case)
** Silver, your Johto rival, invokes this. In the remakes they gave him a more masculine appearance however he still invokes this due to his young age, {{Bishonen}} good looks, and long hair.
** Remember ThatOneBoss duo [[VideoGame/PokemonRubyAndSapphire Liza & Tate]]? They're androgynous-looking twin children with long hair who have feminine {{Gender Blender Name}}s. Tate is a boy. He was so androgynous one of the English translators for the ''Manga/PokemonAdventures'' manga wrote him as Liza's identical twin for quite a while. The remake games make Tate less androgynous.
** Wallace. With that pose, cyan styled hair, and fabulous clothes, anyone could mistake him for a girl and never know the truth.
** [[http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/showthread.php?t=69617 Cheren]] from VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite. His Sugimori art makes him less ambiguous.
** N appears to be an ordinary {{Bishounen}}, but his character art uses Whitney's girly skipping pose, which has given some fans mixed signals.
** This also could have occurred to the translation team for ''[[VideoGame/PokemonRubyAndSapphire Ruby and Sapphire]]'', who named a Team Magma admin with a slightly ambiguous-looking sprite the very feminine "Tabitha." Unfortunately, [[GenderBlenderName Tabitha is a man]].
** [[VideoGame/PokemonDiamondAndPearl Team Galactic Commander Saturn]] is male. However, his tunic is sufficiently ambiguous that the writers of ''Manga/PokemonDiamondAndPearlAdventure'' portrayed him as an attractive girl with a visible bust for a couple of chapters before suddenly realizing their mistake and subsequently pretending it never happened. Additionally, Saturn uses a female Toxicroak as his main Pokemon (as noted, [=NPCs=] usually use Pokemon of their own gender); however, this is read more as a ShipTease with (female) co-commander Mars, as [[UncattyResemblance their signature Pokemon resemble each other's hairstyle]].
** Braixen and Delphox are based on witches--Braixen, in particular, on the CuteWitch--but, like all other starters, has a 7-to-1 ratio of males to females.
** Similarly, female Eevee are quite rare (though you'd be surprised about this, given how [[VocalMinority certain fans]] like to treat them), yet a few of its evolutions, namely [[MakingASplash Vaporeon]], [[MindOverMatter Espeon]], [[AnIcePerson Glaceon]], and especially [[OurFairiesAreDifferent Sylveon]] look very feminine.
*** Wes' Espeon in ''VideoGame/PokemonColosseum'' is male however many fans fail to notice the fact. He's pink and is paired with an (equally male) Umbreon, which looks "more masculine" than him. Many fans are also used to fans writing Espeon as female while Umbreon are usually written as male.
*** The worst culprit was the ''VideoGame/PokemonMysteryDungeon'' spinoffs ([[VideoGame/PokemonMysteryDungeonRescueTeam especially the]] [[VideoGame/PokemonMysteryDungeonExplorers first two games]]), where Eevee can only be picked as a female despite being of male-heavy species in main games. With these spinoffs, [[FromBadToWorse imagine how infectious this affected on most fan works]].
** A lot of people thought Trevor was a girl when revealed, until his name was discovered. Even in the game itself he wavers on the thin line between looking feminine and being a cute young boy.
** The female and male protagonists in ''VideoGame/PokemonSunAndMoon'' look quite similar. The male has medium length hair and is younger than Calem or Hilbert, which has caused many to mistake him for a girl.
** Wigglytuff from ''VideoGame/PokemonMysteryDungeonExplorers'' is a pink and [[{{keet}} cheerful]] character but is male. The anime adaptations didn't help by giving him a [[CrossdressingVoices blatantly feminine voice]] which made many believe he [[GenderFlip was a girl]] in the specials.
** Wally's Gardevoir in [[VideoGame/PokemonRubyAndSapphire Generation 3]] is hardwired to be male. He ''cannot'' be female. Due to the above many people mistake him for a female. Averted in the remakes, where he evolves into a Gallade instead.
23rd Apr '18 9:58:07 AM rjd1922
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* King Evan Pettiwhisker Tildrum, the main character of ''VideoGame/NiNoKuniIIRevenantKingdom'', is often mistaken for a girl due to his long blond hair and feminine features. The fact that [[CrossdressingVoices his voice actor is female]] doesn't help.
4th Apr '18 9:16:20 AM PhiSat
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* Thanks to voice acting being brought into the second game, [=NiGHTS=] from ''VideoGame/NightsIntoDreams'' now speaks with a posh woman's accent, causing many people to think that they're a woman ''despite [[WordofGod it being confirmed]] that Nights has no gender''. [=NiGHTS=]' voice can be interpreted either as a woman or a young boy; it sounds equally like both.

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* Thanks to voice acting being brought into the second game, [=NiGHTS=] from ''VideoGame/NightsIntoDreams'' now speaks with a posh woman's accent, causing many people to think that they're a woman ''despite [[WordofGod it being confirmed]] that Nights has no gender''. [=NiGHTS=]' voice can be interpreted either as a woman or a young boy; it sounds equally like both. It does not help that Reala, Nights' sibling, is also supposed to be genderless but sounds [[BadassBaritone very distinctly masculine.]]
14th Mar '18 5:07:00 PM rixion
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* In the ''VideoGame/{{SaGa}}'' game ''[[VideoGame/SaGa3 Final Fantasy Legend III]]'', a boss named Matreiya is referred to as "he" but take '''one''' look at the sprite and you'd bet that "he" looks like a "she"! S/he could '''easily''' pass for Cleopatra.

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* In the ''VideoGame/{{SaGa}}'' ''[[Franchise/SaGaRPG SaGa]]'' game ''[[VideoGame/SaGa3 Final Fantasy Legend III]]'', a boss named Matreiya is referred to as "he" but take '''one''' look at the sprite and you'd bet that "he" looks like a "she"! S/he could '''easily''' pass for Cleopatra.
7th Mar '18 5:44:59 PM Sammettik
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** Birdo is undeniably feminine, however her biological sex is the issue. While there is more than one member of the species (much like Yoshi), the main one featured in the games is a biologically male but [[{{transsexual}} female gendered]]...most of the time. Nintendo has occasionally [[FlipFlopOfGod changed Birdo's biological sex from male to female to]] [[AmbiguousGender not really saying if it's one or the other.]]
** Vivian, from ''VideoGame/PaperMarioTheThousandYearDoor''. In the Japanese release, she's transgender and her sisters treat her poorly because of it (arguably also out of jealously that a "male" (assuming her sisters don't respect her identity) could be so much more effeminate than they are). Like Birdo, this was changed for the US release, making her biologically female.
7th Mar '18 5:39:18 PM Sammettik
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** Kirby might very well be this, given that even the Japanese don't seem to know the character's gender. Most derivative translations default it as a dude, though.
** Coo the Owl looks very feminine, but is actually a male...[[ShesAManInJapan at least outside of Japan, anyway]].



** Ado is a human character who is canonically a girl, however her young age and short hair has made many fans mistake her for male.

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** Ado is a human character who is canonically a girl, however her young age and short hair has made many fans mistake her for male.a male. Her redesign as Adeleine is more clearly a girl.
16th Feb '18 12:19:05 AM nombretomado
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* ''VideoGame/CodeOfPrincess'': At first, many people thought [[http://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130710041321/codeofprincess/images/0/0b/Ali_baba.jpg Ali-Baba]] was a guy. It didn't help with her [[{{Bifauxnen}} bifauxnen]] [[{{Pettanko}} features]] and [[GenderBlenderName name]]. By now, anyone who played the game knows her gender, but somebody unfamiliar with the title might do a double-take to her appearance.

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* ''VideoGame/CodeOfPrincess'': At first, many people thought [[http://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130710041321/codeofprincess/images/0/0b/Ali_baba.jpg Ali-Baba]] was a guy. It didn't help with her [[{{Bifauxnen}} bifauxnen]] [[{{Pettanko}} [[UsefulNotes/{{Pettanko}} features]] and [[GenderBlenderName name]]. By now, anyone who played the game knows her gender, but somebody unfamiliar with the title might do a double-take to her appearance.
12th Feb '18 5:47:36 PM xxFalconArasxx
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* Many people confuse Amaterasu from ''VideoGame/{{Okami}}'' as a male. Issun constantly referring to her as a [[SheIsTheKing god rather than a goddess]] doesn't help. The American localization was actually trying to keep Ammy as androgynous as possible, mostly since the United State's primary religion has God to be definitively male. (Though in Japanese mythology, kami - of which Amaterasu is one - are technically genderless.)
** Ninetails is often mistaken for a female, due to [[spoiler:disguising himself as the priestess Rao for the majority of his onscreen appearance]]. His Bestiary entry explicitly identifies him as "he".

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* Many people confuse Amaterasu from ''VideoGame/{{Okami}}'' as a male. Issun constantly referring to her as a [[SheIsTheKing god rather than a goddess]] doesn't help. The American localization was actually trying to keep Ammy as androgynous as possible, mostly since the United State's primary religion has God to be definitively male. (Though in Japanese mythology, kami - of which Amaterasu is one - are technically genderless.)
** Ninetails is often mistaken for a female, due to [[spoiler:disguising himself as the priestess Rao for the majority of his onscreen appearance]]. His Bestiary entry explicitly identifies him as "he".
12th Feb '18 5:45:47 PM xxFalconArasxx
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