History ViewerGenderConfusion / VideoGames

10th Jul '16 12:11:07 PM nombretomado
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* BioWare tends to avert this by giving the female characters either scanty clothing or large breasts. The only exceptions are Jack, who they make a point of not using gender-specific pronouns for her until you see her rising out of cryo, and Shale, who is a golem and doesn't give you any physiological clues as to her gender (in fact, even ''she'' is surprised by the GenderReveal).

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* BioWare Creator/BioWare tends to avert this by giving the female characters either scanty clothing or large breasts. The only exceptions are Jack, who they make a point of not using gender-specific pronouns for her until you see her rising out of cryo, and Shale, who is a golem and doesn't give you any physiological clues as to her gender (in fact, even ''she'' is surprised by the GenderReveal).
24th Jun '16 5:09:23 PM Pichu-kun
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** A better example would be the Ralts line. While Ralts itself looks like a small child with a gender-neutral figure, the evolutions are ballerina based. However their "clothing" is feminine. As in "female tutu" and "dress" feminine. They gained a male counterpart the next gen, however you still have to go through the Kirlia stage and the males evolve into Gallade by a (somewhat rare) evolutionary stone; also, male Gardevoir still exist. Even odder, Gardevoir has a very masculine name in Japan. Sirknight, which has both "Sir" and "knight" in it (while knights can be female, we typically think of male ones); though it may also refer to "come, Knight". To make it even worse, [[VideoGame/PokemonXAndY Mega Gardevoir]] appears to be wearing a ball dress.

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** A better example would be the Ralts line. While Ralts itself looks like a small child with a gender-neutral figure, the evolutions are ballerina based. However their "clothing" is feminine. As in "female tutu" and "dress" feminine. They gained a male counterpart the next gen, however you still have to go through the Kirlia stage and the males evolve into Gallade by a (somewhat rare) evolutionary stone; also, male Gardevoir still exist. Even odder, Gardevoir has a very masculine name in Japan. Japan: Sirknight, which has both "Sir" and "knight" in it (while knights can be female, we typically think of male ones); though it may also refer to "come, Knight". To make it even worse, [[VideoGame/PokemonXAndY Mega Gardevoir]] appears to be wearing a ball dress.



** Remember ThatOneBoss duo [[VideoGame/PokemonRubyAndSapphire Liza & Tate]]? They're androgynous-looking twin children with long hair, and have feminine and {{Gender Blender Name}}s respectively. Tate is a boy. He was so androgynous one of the English translators for the ''Manga/PokemonAdventures'' manga wrote him as Liza's identical twin for quite a while. The remake games make Tate less androgynous.

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** Remember ThatOneBoss duo [[VideoGame/PokemonRubyAndSapphire Liza & Tate]]? They're androgynous-looking twin children with long hair, and hair who have feminine and {{Gender Blender Name}}s respectively.Name}}s. Tate is a boy. He was so androgynous one of the English translators for the ''Manga/PokemonAdventures'' manga wrote him as Liza's identical twin for quite a while. The remake games make Tate less androgynous.


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** Wally's Gardevoir in [[VideoGame/PokemonRubyAndSapphire Generation 3]] is hardwired to be male. He ''cannot'' be female. Due to the above many people mistake him for a female. Averted in the remakes, where he evolves into a Gallade instead.
** Wes' Espeon in ''VideoGame/PokemonColosseum'' is male however many fans fail to notice the fact. He's pink and is paired with an (equally male) Umbreon, which looks "more masculine" than him. Many fans are also used to fans writing Espeon as female while Umbreon are usually written as male.
16th Jun '16 10:40:56 PM Silverblade2
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14th Jun '16 9:44:49 AM Silverblade2
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** Within hours of the reveal of the currently-untitled ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaWiiU'' game for UsefulNotes/WiiU, there were a number of arguments as to whether or not Link is female in it. His {{Bishonen}} attributes seemed to have been [[UpToEleven made even more prominent]] in this installment, with rather distinct eyelashes and a ponytail. Others speculated that that's actually ''Zelda'', as Aonuma stated that the character in question "wasn't necessarily Link", but later admitted he was joking.
** The Link from ''VideoGame/ALegendOfZeldaALinkToThePast'' is probably the second most androgynous Link besides the ''U'' version. In his design for the ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOracleGames Oracle]]'' games he looks even younger due to the [[ArtisticAge art style]] so he doesn't pass for a long haired teenage boy nearly as well.

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** Within hours of the reveal of the currently-untitled ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaWiiU'' game for UsefulNotes/WiiU, ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaBreathOfTheWild'', there were a number of arguments as to whether or not Link is female in it. His {{Bishonen}} attributes seemed to have been [[UpToEleven made even more prominent]] in this installment, with rather distinct eyelashes and a ponytail. Others speculated that that's actually ''Zelda'', as Aonuma stated that the character in question "wasn't necessarily Link", but later admitted he was joking.
** The Link from ''VideoGame/ALegendOfZeldaALinkToThePast'' is probably the second most androgynous Link besides the ''U'' ''BOTW'' version. In his design for the ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOracleGames Oracle]]'' games he looks even younger due to the [[ArtisticAge art style]] so he doesn't pass for a long haired teenage boy nearly as well.
7th Jun '16 7:03:57 PM Willbyr
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** [[VideoGame/PokemonDiamondAndPearl Team Galactic Commander Saturn]] is male. However, his tunic is sufficiently ambiguous that the writers of ''PokemonDiamondAndPearlAdventure'' portrayed him as an attractive girl with a visible bust for a couple of chapters before suddenly realizing their mistake and subsequently pretending it never happened. Additionally, Saturn uses a female Toxicroak as his main Pokemon (as noted, [=NPCs=] usually use Pokemon of their own gender); however, this is read more as a ShipTease with (female) co-commander Mars, as [[UncattyResemblance their signature Pokemon resemble each other's hairstyle]].

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** [[VideoGame/PokemonDiamondAndPearl Team Galactic Commander Saturn]] is male. However, his tunic is sufficiently ambiguous that the writers of ''PokemonDiamondAndPearlAdventure'' ''Manga/PokemonDiamondAndPearlAdventure'' portrayed him as an attractive girl with a visible bust for a couple of chapters before suddenly realizing their mistake and subsequently pretending it never happened. Additionally, Saturn uses a female Toxicroak as his main Pokemon (as noted, [=NPCs=] usually use Pokemon of their own gender); however, this is read more as a ShipTease with (female) co-commander Mars, as [[UncattyResemblance their signature Pokemon resemble each other's hairstyle]].
7th Jun '16 1:00:24 AM F-Lambda
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* In ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}'', many viewers were led to the impression that Fawkes was female, not because of any physical characteristics, but due to misunderstanding a laboratory log in game. After a [[http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Fawkes/Gender bitter, lingering controversy]], stoked by public comment from the voice actor who played Fawkes, the issue was finally resolved by Word Of God. Closer observation of the in-game model of Fawkes would have resolved it even sooner: The tattered remnants of his vault suit has seam patterns consistent with the male version of the suit, not the female.

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* In ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}'', many viewers were led to the impression that Fawkes was female, not because of any physical characteristics, but due to misunderstanding a laboratory log in game. After a [[http://fallout.[[http://web.archive.org/web/20090511044732/http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Fawkes/Gender bitter, lingering controversy]], stoked by public comment from the voice actor who played Fawkes, the issue was finally resolved by Word Of God. Closer observation of the in-game model of Fawkes would have resolved it even sooner: The tattered remnants of his vault suit has seam patterns consistent with the male version of the suit, not the female.
2nd Jun '16 9:03:35 AM 32_Footsteps
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* ''VideoGame/GotchaForce'' featured [[http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/capcomdatabase/images/2/29/GotchaOrochi.png/revision/latest?cb=20080616220147 Orochi]] as TheDragon to the BigBad. Between the fact that Orochi is prepubescent, mostly shown from the waist up [[spoiler: thus hiding Orochi's skirt]], has a hair-covering bandanna on, and the fact that the game makes exactly ''one'' gender reference for Orochi prior to the ending, it's not uncommon to completely miss that Orochi is a girl. Even the ending doesn't help much, as it hints that the Galactic Emperor altered her appearance (with MindControlEyes and an ExpositoryHairstyleChange) but doesn't do much beyond hair color to point out what she looks like in the final group shot (she's the one in the pink basketball uniform).
29th May '16 5:58:30 PM CoCage
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* ''VideoGame/CodeOfPrincess'': At first, many people thought [[http://static2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130710041321/codeofprincess/images/0/0b/Ali_baba.jpg Ali-Baba]] was a guy. It didn't help with her [[{{Bifauxnen}} bifauxnen]] [[{{Pettanko}} features]] and [[GenderBlenderName name]]. By now, anyone who played the game knows her gender, but somebody unfamiliar with the title might do a double-take to her appearance.
29th May '16 11:32:04 AM Pichu-kun
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** Wigglytuff from ''VideoGame/PokemonMysteryDungeonExplorers'' is a pink and [[{{keet}} cheerful]] character but is male. The anime adaptations didn't help by giving him a [[CrossdressingVoices blatantly feminine voice]] which made many believe he [[GenderFlip was a girl]] in the specials.
25th May '16 9:35:57 PM Pichu-kun
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** Within hours of the reveal of the currently-untitled ''Zelda'' game for WiiU, there were a number of arguments as to whether or not Link is female in it. His {{Bishonen}} attributes seemed to have been [[UpToEleven made even more prominent]] in this installment, with rather distinct eyelashes and a ponytail. Others speculated that that's actually ''Zelda'', as Aonuma stated that the character in question "wasn't necessarily Link", but later admitted he was joking.
** The Link from ''VideoGame/ALegendOfZeldaALinkToThePast'' is probably the second most androgynous Link besides the ''U'' version. In his design for the ''Oracle'' games he looks even younger due to the [[ArtisticAge art style]] so he doesn't pass for a long haired teenage boy nearly as well.

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** Within hours of the reveal of the currently-untitled ''Zelda'' ''VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaWiiU'' game for WiiU, UsefulNotes/WiiU, there were a number of arguments as to whether or not Link is female in it. His {{Bishonen}} attributes seemed to have been [[UpToEleven made even more prominent]] in this installment, with rather distinct eyelashes and a ponytail. Others speculated that that's actually ''Zelda'', as Aonuma stated that the character in question "wasn't necessarily Link", but later admitted he was joking.
** The Link from ''VideoGame/ALegendOfZeldaALinkToThePast'' is probably the second most androgynous Link besides the ''U'' version. In his design for the ''Oracle'' ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaOracleGames Oracle]]'' games he looks even younger due to the [[ArtisticAge art style]] so he doesn't pass for a long haired teenage boy nearly as well.
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