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26th May '16 4:04:23 PM Pichu-kun
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* Because of the art-style and body structure, most characters in ''Manga/AttackOnTitan'' are hard to tell which gender they are at first glance. Most notable offenders are Hanji and Nanaba, both officially women with strong features, but the author has said that [[TrollingCreator people can interpret them however they like.]]
** Hanji is actually only officially a woman in the anime. The manga has refused to elaborate on their gender.

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* Because of the art-style and body structure, most characters in ''Manga/AttackOnTitan'' are hard to tell which gender they are at first glance. Most glance:
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notable offenders are Hanji and Nanaba, both officially women (Hanji only in adaptations, in the manga it is [[AmbiguousGender not]] [[AmbiguousGenderIdentity elaborated on]]) with strong features, but the author has said that [[TrollingCreator people can interpret them however they like.]]
** Hanji is actually only officially a woman in the anime. The manga has refused to elaborate on their gender.
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** ''Beyblade'''s spinoff, ''Anime/MetalFightBeyblade'', has quite a few guys with questionably feminine appearances. Thankfully, most of them are saved with masculine voices.

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** * ''Beyblade'''s spinoff, ''Anime/MetalFightBeyblade'', has quite a few guys with questionably feminine appearances. Thankfully, most of them are saved with masculine voices.



* A number of those who saw the first ''Manga/{{Hellsing}}'' anime expressed annoyance that the titular [[{{Bifauxnen}} Sir Integra]] was such an embarrassingly pretty {{Bishonen}}. This is somewhat excusable, what with the author referring to her as "Sir", presumably due to a misunderstanding of British titles. A woman given the honor of joining a knightly order is referred to with the honorific "Lady" or "Dame" (depending on the order and rank). It was explained somewhere that it is some sort of a legal fiction -- to give Integra a chance to inherit the Hellsing name and Round Table position, she was officially registered as a man. So being legally a man, she is entitled to a male honorific.

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* ''Manga/{{Hellsing}}'':
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A number of those who saw the first ''Manga/{{Hellsing}}'' anime expressed annoyance that the titular [[{{Bifauxnen}} Sir Integra]] was such an embarrassingly pretty {{Bishonen}}. This is somewhat excusable, what with the author referring to her as "Sir", presumably due to a misunderstanding of British titles. A woman given the honor of joining a knightly order is referred to with the honorific "Lady" or "Dame" (depending on the order and rank). It was explained somewhere that it is some sort of a legal fiction -- to give Integra a chance to inherit the Hellsing name and Round Table position, she was officially registered as a man. So being legally a man, she is entitled to a male honorific.



* ''Manga/{{Heroman}}'' gives us Joey, the main character. While his name is obviously masculine, his design is androgynous at best and his personality, body language, and ''especially'' [[CrossdressingVoices his voice]] are much closer to a tomboyish girl than a teenage male. It's enough to make you wonder.
** "Obviously masculine"? [[http://www.thinkbabynames.com/meaning/0/Joey It can be a girl's name too]], although more rarely. Joey is androgynous all around. Thick shoulder-length blonde hair, girly voice, short, thin, even a little curvy... Yeah, few people probably knew he was a guy when they saw him for the first time.

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* ''Manga/{{Heroman}}'' gives us Joey, the main character. While his name is obviously masculine, his His design is androgynous at best and his personality, body language, and ''especially'' [[CrossdressingVoices his voice]] are much closer to a tomboyish girl than a teenage male. It's enough to make you wonder.
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wonder. It doesn't help that [[http://www.thinkbabynames.com/meaning/0/Joey It his name can be a girl's name too]], although more rarely. Joey is androgynous all around. Thick shoulder-length blonde hair, girly voice, short, thin, even a little curvy... Yeah, few people probably knew he was a guy when they saw him for the first time.



* Several characters from the ''Manga/{{Loveless}}'' manga. Yayoi, Kio, and both halves of "Zero" who have longer hair in feminine styles, feminine body structures, and most often baggy/feminine looking clothes. And no voice actors to seek guidance from.
** At least in the anime, Yayoi, Kio and Youji are all voiced by blokes, and even [[Creator/MitsukiSaiga Natsuo's seiyuu]] is best known for [[CrossDressingVoices voicing young boys]]. The ''real'' prize for this trope should go to Yurio, who appears quite late in the manga, has a very girly hairstyle (bobbed with long curls underneath), has the kanji for "man" in his/her name, and generally gives people a headache as to what his/her actual gender is.

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* Several characters from the ''Manga/{{Loveless}}'' manga. Yayoi, Kio, and both halves of "Zero" who have longer hair in feminine styles, feminine body structures, and most often baggy/feminine looking clothes. And no voice actors to seek guidance from.
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from. At least in the anime, Yayoi, Kio and Youji are all voiced by blokes, and even [[Creator/MitsukiSaiga Natsuo's seiyuu]] is best known for [[CrossDressingVoices voicing young boys]]. The ''real'' prize for this trope should go to Yurio, who appears quite late in the manga, has a very girly hairstyle (bobbed with long curls underneath), has the kanji for "man" in his/her name, and generally gives people a headache as to what his/her actual gender is.



* Hana from ''Anime/MichikoToHatchin''; she even got mistaken for a boy in one episode. She's young (ten years old), dresses in a boyish manner, has short hair, and her voice isn't all that feminine. The series takes place in South America, so JapanesePronouns can't help either in-series.

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* Hana from ''Anime/MichikoToHatchin''; she even got gets mistaken for a boy in one episode.a few episodes. She's young (ten years old), dresses in a boyish manner, has short hair, and her voice isn't all that feminine. The series takes place in South America, so JapanesePronouns can't help either in-series.



* Dewey from ''Manga/NurseAngelRirikaSOS'' has long hair, likes bright colored clothing, and doesn't have a particularly masculine voice. He's more {{bishonen}} then even Nozumu.

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* ''Manga/NurseAngelRirikaSOS'':
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Dewey from ''Manga/NurseAngelRirikaSOS'' has long hair, is a LongHairedPrettyBoy, likes bright brightly colored clothing, and doesn't have a particularly masculine voice. He's more {{bishonen}} then even Nozumu.Nozomu.
** Zaida is an adult, unlike Dewey, but still counts. He dresses flamboyantly, has long eyelashes, and wears his hair long. In fact most of the antagonists have long hair, and the ones that don't are still {{bishonen}}.



* Husky, the fish-boy from ''Manga/PlusAnima''. It even gets to the point where the ''other characters in the manga'' are confused about what his gender is.
** He even has to ''drop his pants'' at one point to convince Nana he wasn't a girl, since she refused to believe anything he said to the contrary.

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* Husky, the fish-boy from ''Manga/PlusAnima''. It even gets to the point where the ''other characters in the manga'' are confused about what his gender is.
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is. He even has to ''drop his pants'' at one point to convince Nana he wasn't a girl, since she refused to believe anything he said to the contrary.



* Huang Chaun from ''Manga/RikiOh'' is a very effeminate man with a slender build, lipstick, long eyelashes, and long painted finger nails, but he has a rather masculine voice in the anime.
** In the live-action adaptation, they went further and had him played by an actual woman and voice-dubbed by a man.

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* Huang Chaun from ''Manga/RikiOh'' is a very effeminate man with a slender build, lipstick, long eyelashes, and long painted finger nails, but he has a rather masculine voice in the anime.
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anime. In the live-action adaptation, they went further and had him played by an actual woman and voice-dubbed by a man.



* [[TheWoobie Crona]] from ''Manga/SoulEater'': even WordOfGod refused to confirm [[AmbiguousGender her/his]] gender!
** In the English dub, Crona is referred to with male pronouns because the dubbers didn't want the dialogue to sound too awkward by avoiding the subject. No one, especially the ones behind the English dub, has a clue behind Crona's gender.

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* [[TheWoobie Crona]] from ''Manga/SoulEater'': even WordOfGod refused to confirm [[AmbiguousGender her/his]] gender!
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gender! In the English dub, Crona is referred to with male pronouns because the dubbers didn't want the dialogue to sound too awkward by avoiding the subject. No one, especially the ones behind the English dub, has a clue behind Crona's gender.



* Midriff-exposing, bangle-wearing Toboe from ''Anime/WolfsRain'' apparently caused ''author'' gender confusion -- an artist's note accompanying character model sheets in the first manga volume jokingly(?) laments "I thought he was a girl... sniffle".

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* Midriff-exposing, bangle-wearing Toboe from ''Anime/WolfsRain'' apparently caused ''author'' gender confusion -- an artist's note accompanying character model sheets in the first manga volume jokingly(?) jokingly (?) laments "I thought he was a girl... sniffle".



* Shigeru Kanmuri from ''Manga/YakitateJapan'', especially when he [[{{Crossdresser}} wore a girls' sailor uniform]].
** Even the artist admits that up-close, he looks exactly like Tsukino.

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* Shigeru Kanmuri from ''Manga/YakitateJapan'', especially when he [[{{Crossdresser}} wore a girls' sailor uniform]].
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uniform]]. Even the artist admits that up-close, he looks exactly like Tsukino.



* In AssassinationClassroom, it can be hard to tell if Nagisa Shiota is a boy or a girl as that person has GirlishPigtails, a slim build and is voiced by a woman. Unlike some other works, its established early on that Nagisa is a man but its {{Lampshaded}} in universe that even his own classmates were not 100% sure until they saw him in a swimsuit.

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* In AssassinationClassroom, ''Manga/AssassinationClassroom'', it can be hard to tell if Nagisa Shiota is a boy or a girl as that person has GirlishPigtails, a slim build and is voiced by a woman. Unlike some other works, its established early on that Nagisa is a man but its {{Lampshaded}} in universe that even his own classmates were not 100% sure until they saw him in a swimsuit.
26th May '16 2:31:35 PM Pichu-kun
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* Many characters from ''Manga/InazumaEleven'' but [[http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120909122605/inazuma-eleven/images/e/e0/Kirino_France_Clothing.png Kirino Ranmaru]] from Go stands out. He has long, pink hair which he wears in ''pigtails''.. But is nevertheless a boy. And a few players have been confused about Kazemaru and Miyasaka's gender upon first playing the game. Sure, the player will figure out Kazemaru's a guy after hearing his voice, but Miyasaka looks and sounds so girly in the anime that one has to constantly remind themselves that he's male. Probably justified in that they're young and might not have hit puberty yet, but ''come on''...
** Miyasaka had this problem so much, that the English dub of the anime actually ''gender-swapped him into a female''.
* From ''Manga/InuYasha'':

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* Many characters from ''Manga/InazumaEleven'' but [[http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120909122605/inazuma-eleven/images/e/e0/Kirino_France_Clothing.png Kirino Ranmaru]] from Go stands out. He has long, pink hair which he wears in ''pigtails''.. But is nevertheless a boy. And a few players have been confused about Kazemaru and Miyasaka's gender upon first playing the game. Sure, the player will figure out Kazemaru's a guy after hearing his voice, but Miyasaka looks and sounds so girly in the anime that one has to constantly remind themselves that he's male. Probably justified in that they're young and might not have hit puberty yet, but ''come on''...
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on''... Miyasaka had this problem so much, that the English dub of the anime actually ''gender-swapped him into a female''.
* From ''Manga/InuYasha'':



** The first example would have to be [[DudeLooksLikeALady Haku]]. In their first interaction, Naruto thought he was a girl until Haku stated that he was a guy and even then commented that "he's even prettier than Sakura-chan!"
*** To add on more gender confusion, Haku is voiced by [[CrossDressingVoices a woman]] in every language except the Hungarian redub!

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** The first example would have to be [[DudeLooksLikeALady Haku]]. In their first interaction, Naruto thought he was a girl until Haku stated that he was a guy and even then commented that "he's even prettier than Sakura-chan!"
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Sakura-chan!" To add on more gender confusion, Haku is voiced by [[CrossDressingVoices a woman]] in every language except the Hungarian redub!



** [[spoiler:Kurenai's daughter]] in chapter 700 caused this reaction with a lot of fans.

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** [[spoiler:Kurenai's daughter]] Mirai in chapter 700 caused this reaction with a lot of fans.


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* Dewey from ''Manga/NurseAngelRirikaSOS'' has long hair, likes bright colored clothing, and doesn't have a particularly masculine voice. He's more {{bishonen}} then even Nozumu.
10th Mar '16 10:33:26 PM Pichu-kun
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** Wrath from the [[Anime/FullmetalAlchemist first anime]] is of similar circumstances to Envy. He's young, has long hair, a female voice actor, and the fact that he's lived in an isolated island cause confusion as to his gender.

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** Wrath from the [[Anime/FullmetalAlchemist first anime]] is of similar circumstances to Envy. He's young, has long hair, has a female voice actor, actress, and the fact that he's lived in an isolated island cause confusion as to his gender.



* ''Manga/GunslingerGirl'' features several boyish looking cyborgs however all cyborgs are canonically girls. Rico has short hair, dresses in unisex (or masculine) clothes, and has a boys name. It was intentional on her [[TheHandler handlers]] part to make her seem androgynous.



* For people who have not seen ''Anime/MoribitoGuardianOfTheSpirit'' from the start, it may be a surprise that Chagum is a boy.



* Yoshiyuki Sadamoto admitted straight out in an {{Omake}} to an early volume of the ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'' manga that Shinji's design is basically Anime/{{Nadia| The Secret Of Blue Water}}'s with a different haircut. So this is understandable. Not to mention that his Japanese voice belonged to a [[Creator/MegumiOgata lady]] who is ''very'' well-known for her [[CrossDressingVoices deep voice]]. Case in point, she's also well-known as [[Manga/SailorMoon Sailor Uranus]], who has her own entry.
** It happens a lot in the Alternate Continuity ''Gakuen Datenroku'' ("Records of Heaven's Descent"), where Shinji is at his most androgynous and really looks like Maya and where it's sometimes necessary to have a close look to realize that the cute short-haired girl is actually him.
** It does not help that any genderswap art of the cast just switches Shinji's and Maya's uniforms.

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* Yoshiyuki Sadamoto admitted straight out in an {{Omake}} to an early volume of the ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'' manga that Shinji's design is basically Anime/{{Nadia| The Secret Of Blue Water}}'s with a different haircut. So this is understandable. Not to mention that his Japanese voice belonged to a [[Creator/MegumiOgata lady]] who is ''very'' well-known for her [[CrossDressingVoices deep voice]]. Case in point, she's also well-known as [[Manga/SailorMoon Sailor Uranus]], who has her own entry.
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entry. It happens a lot in the Alternate Continuity ''Gakuen Datenroku'' ("Records of Heaven's Descent"), where Shinji is at his most androgynous and really looks like Maya and where it's sometimes necessary to have a close look to realize that the cute short-haired girl is actually him.
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him. It does not help that any genderswap art of the cast just switches Shinji's and Maya's uniforms.



* In the manga of ''Manga/ParadiseKiss'', Yukari [=IDs=] Isabella as a cross dresser virtually as soon as she meets her. However in the anime this doesn't happen, and no-one makes ''any'' reference to the fact that she's actually a biological man until episode 10. Consequently, watching the anime first means there isn't even have a ''clue'' that anything is amiss until that point- given how fruity most of the characters were, there didn't seem to be anything odder than usual about her, especially as she's voiced by a woman in both languages.



** In the [[Manga/PokemonSpecial Adventures]] manga, Gold ends up mistaking Bugsy for a girl on first sight, and even ''flirts with him''.
** Another Bugsy incident happened in another manga, ''[[Manga/PokemonGoldenBoys Golden Boys]]''. Their Gold had mistaken Bugsy for a girl but it was a much milder example and was dropped instantly. It doesn't help that he's a {{Bishonen}} llittle boy in that manga.



** Ash's Pikachu gets this ''a lot''. Pikachu has been called a "he" a couple times in the anime, but his gender wasn't explicitly confirmed this until the infamous Diamond & Pearl episode with [[BizarroEpisode Rayquaza and an evil Togepi]].

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** Ash's Pikachu gets this ''a lot''. Pikachu has been called a "he" a couple times in the anime, english dub and was implied to be male in Japan as he uses "boku" as a pronoun, but his gender wasn't explicitly confirmed this until the infamous Diamond & Pearl episode with [[BizarroEpisode Rayquaza and an evil Togepi]].



* For people who have not seen ''Anime/MoribitoGuardianOfTheSpirit'' from the start, it may be a surprise that Chagum is a boy.

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* For people who have not seen ''Anime/MoribitoGuardianOfTheSpirit'' Kougami from the start, ''Manga/SchoolLive'' was thought to be female by many fans until it may be was revealed he [[spoiler:impregnated another character]]. He looks like a surprise that Chagum short haired girl, or a [[OlderThanTheyLook preteen boy]], but is apparently a boy.college student.
27th Feb '16 8:46:18 PM Willbyr
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* There is some disagreement about the gender of [[http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/Pierre_Akeru.jpg Pierre]] in ''KyouranKazokuNikki'', which may well be the goal of the author of the original {{light novels}}. Pierre's real name, Akeru, is a typical girl's name, although there are no truly fixed rules for that in Japan. Also, Pierre has long braided hair and female mannerims, but in the world of manga and anime (and outside of it) that doesn't have to mean much. Pierre furthermore uses the gender-neutral "watakushi" for "I", which complicates matters even more.

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* There is some disagreement about the gender of [[http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/Pierre_Akeru.jpg Pierre]] in ''KyouranKazokuNikki'', ''LightNovel/KyouranKazokuNikki'', which may well be the goal of the author of the original {{light novels}}. Pierre's real name, Akeru, is a typical girl's name, although there are no truly fixed rules for that in Japan. Also, Pierre has long braided hair and female mannerims, but in the world of manga and anime (and outside of it) that doesn't have to mean much. Pierre furthermore uses the gender-neutral "watakushi" for "I", which complicates matters even more.
23rd Feb '16 6:21:55 AM kyberserafino
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** Hanji is actually only officially a woman in the anime. The manga has refused to elaborate on their gender.
23rd Jan '16 7:52:49 PM Willbyr
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** As Marik from ''[[WebVideo/YuGiOhTheAbridgedSeries Yu-Gi-Oh! The Abridged Series]]'' said: "There are no women in ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' Only extremely girly men! And I am the girliest of them all!"[[note]]He may very well be: he has shoulder-length hair, a pale-purple crop top with these ''darling'' little gold chains across the bust, [[{{Guyliner}} eye makeup]], and massive amounts of jewelry, and his features are generally drawn a bit more [[{{Bishonen}} delicate]] than those of most of the other male characters.[[/note]]

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** As Marik from ''[[WebVideo/YuGiOhTheAbridgedSeries Yu-Gi-Oh! The Abridged Series]]'' ''WebVideo/YuGiOhTheAbridgedSeries'' said: "There are no women in ''Yu-Gi-Oh!'' Only extremely girly men! And I am the girliest of them all!"[[note]]He may very well be: he has shoulder-length hair, a pale-purple crop top with these ''darling'' little gold chains across the bust, [[{{Guyliner}} eye makeup]], and massive amounts of jewelry, and his features are generally drawn a bit more [[{{Bishonen}} delicate]] than those of most of the other male characters.[[/note]]



* Yuki Kaori has been guilty of making her characters (of either sex) look more like the other's gender thanks to her love of androgyny. She mentioned once about the character Rociel from ''AngelSanctuary'' that she got letters early on asking if he were male or female. Her response was something like "Well, I did say he was Katan's father..."

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* Yuki Kaori has been guilty of making her characters (of either sex) look more like the other's gender thanks to her love of androgyny. She mentioned once about the character Rociel from ''AngelSanctuary'' ''Manga/AngelSanctuary'' that she got letters early on asking if he were male or female. Her response was something like "Well, I did say he was Katan's father..."
19th Jan '16 9:24:21 PM Pichu-kun
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** New Zealand is a source of this. Are they a cute short-haired girl or a simply effeminate looking boy in the vein of Poland and China? Time will tell...

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** New Zealand is a source of this. Are they a cute short-haired girl or a simply effeminate looking boy in the vein of Poland and China? Time will tell...Eventually they were shown to be male.



* Jin from ''Days'' is a rather androgynous looking LongHairedPrettyBoy.



** Kalluto is one of Killua's siblings. He looks like a kimono wearing girl.
** Alluka is perfectly feminine looking however there's confusion whether she's male or female. The reader was led to believe Killua only had brothers until her introduction. Killua refers to her as female however the rest of her family calls her "it". It's largely assumed she is [[{{transsexual}} transgender]].



** Most recurring Pokemon have confirmed genders, but (except for Meowth) are almost always referred to as "it".

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** Most recurring Pokemon have confirmed genders, genders starting with ''Best Wishes'', but (except for Meowth) are almost always referred to as "it".
19th Jan '16 10:26:35 AM Willbyr
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** Andromeda Shun has a feminine voice in the Japanese dub, wears pink armor, has a slight figure, and is prettier than most of the female cast. In fact, ''most'' of ''SaintSeiya'''s {{Bishonen}} are prettier than most of its female cast, and have fooled many unwary viewers. It confused even the French dubbers who had a female voice actress dub Shun's lines in the first few eps, until Ikki calls Shun explicitly his "brother". And later, there is this episode stating that female Saints wear masks, but the confusion's still there.

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** Andromeda Shun has a feminine voice in the Japanese dub, wears pink armor, has a slight figure, and is prettier than most of the female cast. In fact, ''most'' of ''SaintSeiya'''s ''Saint Seiya'''s {{Bishonen}} are prettier than most of its female cast, and have fooled many unwary viewers. It confused even the French dubbers who had a female voice actress dub Shun's lines in the first few eps, until Ikki calls Shun explicitly his "brother". And later, there is this episode stating that female Saints wear masks, but the confusion's still there.
10th Jan '16 9:24:45 PM RAMChYLD
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* ''Anime/SuzysZooDaisukiWitzy'': The titular Witzy has raised some confusion to those who're not familiar with the ''Little Suzy's Zoo'' franchise, especially in the original Japanese dub where the pitch of the voice was high enough to be somewhat ambiguous. The English dub has him with a lower pitched voice, but it still confused some people into thinking he's a ''tomboy''.
3rd Jan '16 8:01:04 PM Willbyr
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* ''{{Gamaran}}'' has Ranmaru Itou, a male samurai who looks very feminine.

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* ''{{Gamaran}}'' ''Manga/{{Gamaran}}'' has Ranmaru Itou, a male samurai who looks very feminine.



--> '''Kurono:''' He's ''my'' age?
--> '''Typical viewer:''' He's a ''he''?

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--> '''Kurono:''' He's ''my'' age?
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age?\\
'''Typical viewer:''' He's a ''he''?
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