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* BaitAndSwitch: A priestly girl in Palmacosta appears once the party has been to Hakonesia Peak, asking them to take her there. Players expecting an EscortMission will be pleasantly surprised to discover it's just a ZipMode.

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** Anyone (mostly in Japan) who played ''VideoGame/TalesOfPhantasia'' first is likely to interpret the opening narration as a recap of that game, as it did involve the death of a WorldTree and a hero (of sorts) being sacrificed to take that tree's place, which would suggest this game to be a sequel. However, it soon becomes clear that this game takes place before ''Phantasia'', not after.
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A priestly girl in Palmacosta appears once the party has been to Hakonesia Peak, asking them to take her there. Players expecting an EscortMission will be pleasantly surprised to discover it's just a ZipMode.
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* NPCAmnesia: At one point you have to deliver a letter to a king to help one of your party member friends, but the king is ill and the guards will not let you inside his castle. Just after the first two guards deny you entry, two other guards appear and tell the first two "Your shift's up.". This allows you to leave and come back shortly after you get the help of a [[spoiler: future ally]] who allows you to pretend that you're helping her deliver sacred wood inside the castle.
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* TemporaryPartyMemberToVillain: MagicKnight Kratos Aurion joins the party early on, promising to help escort Colette and the party to the Tower of Salvation so Colette can regenerate the world, and acts as a bit of a CrutchCharacter. Once there, he reveals himself to be a member of Cruxis, the AncientConspiracy behind the current nature of the world, which coupled with TheReveal that the ceremony will result in Colette suffering DeathOfPersonality, leads to an OpenEndedBossBattle between Kratos and the party. He's only playable one further time beyond this point.
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* TrialBalloonQuestion: The Question is skipped however, with the answer being given straight.

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* ArtEvolution: The {{OVA}}'s started out great, but it just gets better with each one.

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** Verius, the summon spirit of heart. It is rainbow like Corrine, but much larger.

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** Verius, the summon spirit of heart. It is rainbow like rainbow-like Corrine, but much larger.



* BadassAdorable: Presea is a adorable, tiny little girl who cuts enemies apart with a massive ax.

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* BadassAdorable: Presea is a an adorable, tiny little girl who cuts enemies apart with a massive ax.



*** Happens again with the PC version. Default controls for players using an Xbox 360/One controller are A for normal attacks, B for special attacks and X to guard. While that is technically the same as the Gamecube keep in mind that the X/B buttons between the Gamecube and Xbox controllers are REVERSED. [[SarcasmMode This is especially fun]] if you went from the Gamecube version of ToS, got used to Vesperia on the 360 and then later came back to Symphonia on the PC.

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*** Happens again with the PC version. Default controls for players using an Xbox 360/One controller are A for normal attacks, B for special attacks and X to guard. While that is technically the same as the Gamecube keep in mind that the X/B buttons between the Gamecube and Xbox controllers are REVERSED. [[SarcasmMode This is especially fun]] if you went from the Gamecube version of ToS, ''Symphonia', got used to Vesperia ''Vesperia'' on the 360 and then later came back to Symphonia ''Symphonia'' on the PC.

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''Tales of Symphonia'' is the fifth mainline entry in the ''VideoGame/TalesSeries''. The game was released on August 29th, 2003 in Japan, on the UsefulNotes/NintendoGameCube. It received an international release on July 13th, 2004 in North America and November 19th, 2004 in Europe.

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''Tales of Symphonia'' is the fifth mainline entry in the ''VideoGame/TalesSeries''. The game was released on August 29th, 2003 in Japan, on the UsefulNotes/NintendoGameCube.Platform/NintendoGameCube. It received an international release on July 13th, 2004 in North America and November 19th, 2004 in Europe.



A spin-off-sequel for the game called ''VideoGame/TalesOfSymphoniaDawnOfTheNewWorld'' (originally titled ''Knight of Ratatosk'' in Japan) was released June 26th, 2008 in Japan, and internationally on November 11th, 2008 in North America and November 13th, 2009 in Europe, all exclusive to the UsefulNotes/NintendoWii.

An [[UpdatedRerelease HD port of the [=PS2=] version of the game]] titled ''Tales of Symphonia Chronicles'' (or ''Tales of Symphonia: Unisonant Pack'' in Japan) for the [=PS3=] containing Dual-Audio, new bonus cameo costumes, as well as an HD port of ''Dawn of the New World'' was released in 2014. Both games can also be bought separately through UsefulNotes/PlaystationNetwork. The HD port was also released for the PC through Steam. A remastered edition for UsefulNotes/PlayStation4, UsefulNotes/XboxOne, and UsefulNotes/NintendoSwitch was released in February 17, 2023.

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A spin-off-sequel for the game called ''VideoGame/TalesOfSymphoniaDawnOfTheNewWorld'' (originally titled ''Knight of Ratatosk'' in Japan) was released June 26th, 2008 in Japan, and internationally on November 11th, 2008 in North America and November 13th, 2009 in Europe, all exclusive to the UsefulNotes/NintendoWii.

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An [[UpdatedRerelease HD port of the [=PS2=] version of the game]] titled ''Tales of Symphonia Chronicles'' (or ''Tales of Symphonia: Unisonant Pack'' in Japan) for the [=PS3=] containing Dual-Audio, new bonus cameo costumes, as well as an HD port of ''Dawn of the New World'' was released in 2014. Both games can also be bought separately through UsefulNotes/PlaystationNetwork.Platform/PlayStationNetwork. The HD port was also released for the PC through Steam. A remastered edition for UsefulNotes/PlayStation4, UsefulNotes/XboxOne, Platform/PlayStation4, Platform/XboxOne, and UsefulNotes/NintendoSwitch Platform/NintendoSwitch was released in February 17, 2023.



* StoryBranchFavoritism: In Flanoir, [[spoiler:choosing to talk to Kratos instead of any other potential choice]] has far-reaching consequences for the rest of the game. Firstly, even getting the scene is a bit of a GuideDangIt, since you have to reject the three other characters that Lloyd has built up affection for (and even then, if your relationship with the GuideDangIt character wasn't high enough, the scene won't trigger in the UsefulNotes/PlayStation versions). Secondly, [[spoiler:this turns Zelos's fake FaceHeelTurn into a real FaceHeelTurn, and you're forced to kill him in a boss battle]]. That causes major problems at the end of the game, since the character you abandon is required for a good number of endgame skits, cutscenes and sidequests, while the optional secret character has none. Thirdly, getting the secret character also [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking locks in Colette as Lloyd's soul mate]], which meant if you wanted to see Lloyd pair up with anyone else, you're out of luck.

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* StoryBranchFavoritism: In Flanoir, [[spoiler:choosing to talk to Kratos instead of any other potential choice]] has far-reaching consequences for the rest of the game. Firstly, even getting the scene is a bit of a GuideDangIt, since you have to reject the three other characters that Lloyd has built up affection for (and even then, if your relationship with the GuideDangIt character wasn't high enough, the scene won't trigger in the UsefulNotes/PlayStation Platform/PlayStation versions). Secondly, [[spoiler:this turns Zelos's fake FaceHeelTurn into a real FaceHeelTurn, and you're forced to kill him in a boss battle]]. That causes major problems at the end of the game, since the character you abandon is required for a good number of endgame skits, cutscenes and sidequests, while the optional secret character has none. Thirdly, getting the secret character also [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking locks in Colette as Lloyd's soul mate]], which meant if you wanted to see Lloyd pair up with anyone else, you're out of luck.
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** In the sewers of Meltokio, you can encounter Bacura, the spinning plate enemies from Namco's popular arcade game ''Xevious''.

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** Genis uses a kendama, a ''children's toy''. Sheena uses cards with wards inscribed on them.
*** [[JustifiedTrope Justified]] in both cases. The kendama is explicitly said to help Genis concentrate when he's casting, and Sheena's 'cards' are actually ofuda, which are magical.
** If you equip the fancy clothes for Presea and Zelos, they have a chance of using a giant stuffed bunny and flowers respectively.

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** Genis uses a kendama, a ''children's toy''. Sheena uses cards with wards inscribed on them.
*** [[JustifiedTrope Justified]] in both cases. The kendama is explicitly said to help Genis concentrate when he's casting, and Sheena's 'cards' are actually ofuda, which are magical.
** If you equip the fancy clothes for Presea and Zelos, they have a small chance each battle of using replacing their actual weapon with a giant stuffed bunny and flowers respectively.
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* ChildishVillainMatureHero: * ''VideoGame/TalesOfSymphonia'': The BigBad, [[spoiler:Mithos]] Yggdrasil, initially acts as the [[MaskOfSanity composed and calm leader]] of Cruxis, but it's later revealed that the death of his [[spoiler:sister, Martel]] has driven him over the edge that for all of his power and intelligence, he never grew up mentally. He [[DetrimentalDetermination becomes so determined]] to bring [[spoiler:Martel]] back to life that he'll cross any lines to get her back. [[spoiler:When Martel finally intervenes and calls out Mithos for his actions, pointing out that this goes against everything they fought for, Mithos [[IRejectYourReality refuses to accept her words]] and goes LaughingMad, and then deliberately misinterprets her last request to restore the world to the way it was by taking her soul and the Great Seed to Derris-Kharlan just to be with his sister forever, [[MotiveDecay no longer caring about the world]]. When he's finally put down, [[IRegretNothing he states that he doesn't regret any of his actions and he would do them all over again if he could]]]]. [[TheHero Lloyd Irving]] on the other hand, while his ideals also clash with the way the world works, is willing to yield when it's clear he's in the wrong and actually learn from his mistakes, allowing him to undergo CharacterDevelopment and become an AllLovingHero. Lloyd's party members also share some of Yggdrasil's insecurities, but they are able to overcome them by choosing not to go with the [[EvilIsEasy easy solution like he has]].

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* ChildishVillainMatureHero: * ''VideoGame/TalesOfSymphonia'': The BigBad, [[spoiler:Mithos]] Yggdrasil, initially acts as the [[MaskOfSanity composed and calm leader]] of Cruxis, but it's later revealed that the death of his [[spoiler:sister, Martel]] has driven him over the edge that for all of his power and intelligence, he never grew up mentally. He [[DetrimentalDetermination becomes so determined]] to bring [[spoiler:Martel]] back to life that he'll cross any lines to get her back. [[spoiler:When Martel finally intervenes and calls out Mithos for his actions, pointing out that this goes against everything they fought for, Mithos [[IRejectYourReality refuses to accept her words]] and goes LaughingMad, and then deliberately misinterprets her last request to restore the world to the way it was by taking her soul and the Great Seed to Derris-Kharlan just to be with his sister forever, [[MotiveDecay no longer caring about the world]]. When he's finally put down, [[IRegretNothing he states that he doesn't regret any of his actions and he would do them all over again if he could]]]]. [[TheHero Lloyd Irving]] on the other hand, while his ideals also clash with the way the world works, is willing to yield when it's clear he's in the wrong and actually learn from his mistakes, allowing him to undergo CharacterDevelopment and become an AllLovingHero. Lloyd's party members also share some of Yggdrasil's insecurities, but they are able to overcome them by choosing not to go with the [[EvilIsEasy easy solution like he has]].
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*** Surprisingly enough, there is also an orange Gamecube visible as a background object in a scene in the Elemental Research Laboratory... and this one wasn't edited out of subsequent releases, including releases on non-Nintendo hardware.

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*** Surprisingly enough, there is also an ** An orange Gamecube [=GameCube=] is visible as a background object in a scene in the Elemental Research Laboratory... and Laboratory. Surprisingly, this one wasn't was never edited out of subsequent releases, including releases when the game was rereleased on non-Nintendo hardware. other systems.
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* HiddenMechanic: The game has RelationshipValues for different characters, and how they feel about Lloyd Irving. Whichever character is designated as Lloyd's soulmate will get extra scenes with him, along with potentially changing party composition late-game by [[spoiler:making the fake FaceHeelTurn of Zelos into a real one, which replaced Zelos with Kratos]]. However, the game doesn't tell you about the existence of these values, and also doesn't inform you how they can be increased.
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* SpellMyNameWithAnS: The spellings differ depending on whether it's the Japanese version or the English version. Collet[=/=]Colette, Shihna[=/=]Sheena, Ruin[=/=]Luin, Haima[=/=]Hima, Parumacosta[=/=]Palmacosta, Ascard[=/=]Asgard. (Japanese spelling first, then English.)
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*** Surprisingly enough, there is also an orange Gamecube visible as a background object in a scene in the Elemental Research Laboratory... and this one wasn't edited out of subsequent releases, including releases on non-Nintendo hardware.
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** In the original GameCube version, the rotating lock in the Sylvarant Base is an indigo GameCube, recognizable by its distinctive circular top plate and gray front controller panel. For obvious reasons, this was changed to a nondescript object in subsequent re-releases on PS2, PS3, PC, and eighth generation systems. Even the Switch version, the first time the game was released on Nintendo hardware since the original, has the same nondescript item in the Sylvarant Base.

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** In the original GameCube [=GameCube=] version, the rotating lock in the Sylvarant Base is an indigo GameCube, a platinum [=GameCube=], recognizable by its distinctive circular top plate and (complete with the logo). gray front controller panel. panel, and fan grille. For obvious reasons, this was changed to a nondescript object in subsequent re-releases on PS2, PS3, [=PS2=], [=PS3=], PC, and eighth generation systems. Even the Switch version, the first time the game was released on Nintendo hardware since the original, has the same nondescript item in the Sylvarant Base.
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** In the original GameCube version, the rotating lock in the Sylvarant Base is an indigo GameCube, recognizable by its distinctive circular top plate and gray front controller panel. For obvious reasons, this was changed to a nondescript object in subsequent re-releases on PS2, PS3, PC, and eighth generation systems. Even the Switch version, the first time the game was released on Nintendo hardware since the original, has the same nondescript item in the Sylvarant Base.
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** In a skit with Raine and Regal that is available during the party's return to the Tower of Mana to unlock Luna, Lloyd complains about the lack of a "Quick Jump" to get the party straight to Luna's altar instead of having to climb the tower again.

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** In a skit with Raine and Regal that is available during the party's return to the Tower of Mana to unlock Luna, Lloyd complains about the lack of a "Quick Jump" to get the party straight to Luna's altar instead of having to climb the tower again. Raine and Regal are confused, and Lloyd simply says "never mind."
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** In a skit with Raine and Regal that is available during the party's return to the Tower of Mana to unlock Luna, Lloyd complains about the lack of a "Quick Jump" to get the party straight to Luna's altar instead of having to climb the tower again.
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** A subtle one, but in the Altamira Amusement Park, there is a flustered employee dressed in a dog costume trying to comfort a lost child, which may be a reference to a Japanese children's song called ''Inu no Omawari-san'' (''The Dog Policeman'' in English), best known outside of Japan as the startup tune of older versions of ''Frogger''.
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* DeconstructorFleet: Pretty much every main character, including the BigBad, is a {{Deconstruction}} of a standard RPG character archetype. It's particularly savage towards the idea of TheChosenOne and just what self-esteem issues a MessianicArchetype could potentially end up with. It tears into the {{Determinator}} and IdiotHero tropes too.
** And as noted below, the BigBad is just as much of a {{Determinator}} as Lloyd is -- his ideals just got compromised along the way.

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* DeconstructorFleet: Pretty much every main character, including the BigBad, is a {{Deconstruction}} of a standard RPG character archetype. It's particularly savage towards the idea of TheChosenOne and just what self-esteem issues a MessianicArchetype could potentially end up with. It tears into the {{Determinator}} and IdiotHero tropes too.
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too. And as noted below, the BigBad is just as much of a {{Determinator}} as Lloyd is -- his ideals just got compromised along the way.way.
* DefiantStoneThrow: The heroes enter the town square of Palmacosta to find the oppressive Desians there, about to hang one of the townsfolk. After her "crimes" (refusing to "sell" them supplies on the basis that they're evil oppressors demanding them for much less than they're actually worth) are announced publicly, a little boy starts throwing stones at their leader. [[StupidEvil He orders the kid executed]], at which point the party steps in to save both townspeople and drive off the Desians.
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* ChildishVillainMatureHero: The BigBad, [[spoiler:Mithos]] Yggdrasil, initially acts as the composed and calm leader of Cruxis, but it's later revealed that the death of his [[spoiler:sister, Martel]] has driven him over the edge that for all of his power and intelligence, he never grew up mentally. He [[DetrimentalDetermination becomes so determined]] to bring [[spoiler:Martel]] back to life that he'll cross any lines to get her back. [[spoiler:When Martel finally intervenes and calls out Mithos for his actions, pointing out that this goes against everything they fought for, Mithos [[IRejectYourReality refuses to accept her words]] and goes LaughingMad, and then deliberately misinterprets her last request to restore the world to the way it was by taking her soul and the Great Seed to Derris-Kharlan just to be with his sister forever, [[MotiveDecay no longer caring about the world]]. When he's finally put down, [[IRegretNothing he states that he doesn't regret any of his actions and he would do them all over again if he could]]]]. [[TheHero Lloyd Irving]] on the other hand, while his ideals also clash with the way the world works, is willing to yield when it's clear he's in the wrong and actually learn from his mistakes, allowing him to undergo CharacterDevelopment and become an AllLovingHero. Lloyd's party members also share some of Yggdrasil's insecurities, but they are able to overcome them by choosing not to go with the [[EvilIsEasy easy solution like he has]].

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* ChildishVillainMatureHero: * ''VideoGame/TalesOfSymphonia'': The BigBad, [[spoiler:Mithos]] Yggdrasil, initially acts as the [[MaskOfSanity composed and calm leader leader]] of Cruxis, but it's later revealed that the death of his [[spoiler:sister, Martel]] has driven him over the edge that for all of his power and intelligence, he never grew up mentally. He [[DetrimentalDetermination becomes so determined]] to bring [[spoiler:Martel]] back to life that he'll cross any lines to get her back. [[spoiler:When Martel finally intervenes and calls out Mithos for his actions, pointing out that this goes against everything they fought for, Mithos [[IRejectYourReality refuses to accept her words]] and goes LaughingMad, and then deliberately misinterprets her last request to restore the world to the way it was by taking her soul and the Great Seed to Derris-Kharlan just to be with his sister forever, [[MotiveDecay no longer caring about the world]]. When he's finally put down, [[IRegretNothing he states that he doesn't regret any of his actions and he would do them all over again if he could]]]]. [[TheHero Lloyd Irving]] on the other hand, while his ideals also clash with the way the world works, is willing to yield when it's clear he's in the wrong and actually learn from his mistakes, allowing him to undergo CharacterDevelopment and become an AllLovingHero. Lloyd's party members also share some of Yggdrasil's insecurities, but they are able to overcome them by choosing not to go with the [[EvilIsEasy easy solution like he has]].



* DevelopersDesiredDate: Any of the party can be chosen as Lloyd's soul mate (not always but often a romantic relationship) based on who has the highest Affection for Lloyd. However the game heavily favours Colette for this role. While every other party member starts with an Affection score of 0, Colette starts with an Affection score of 500. She also has more chances to increase this score and less chances to reduce it than any other character. Colette also has more scenes alone with Lloyd than the other party members and the final cutscene is with her and Lloyd even if she isn't his soul mate. Zelos and Kratos, meanwhile, seem to be [[DownplayedTrope the intended "alternate" choices]], as they're the only other ones who ''must'' be chosen for eventual OneHundredPercentCompletion, and they both have further-reaching effects on the post-choice story than any of the remaining six characters.

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* DevelopersDesiredDate: Any of the party can be chosen as Lloyd's soul mate (not always but often a romantic relationship) based on who has the highest Affection for Lloyd. However the game heavily favours favors Colette for this role. While every other party member starts with an Affection score of 0, Colette starts with an Affection score of 500. She also has more chances to increase this score and less chances to reduce it than any other character. Colette also has more scenes alone with Lloyd than the other party members and the final cutscene is with her and Lloyd even if she isn't his soul mate. Zelos and Kratos, meanwhile, seem to be [[DownplayedTrope the intended "alternate" choices]], as they're the only other ones who ''must'' be chosen for eventual OneHundredPercentCompletion, and they both have further-reaching effects on the post-choice story than any of the remaining six characters.
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*** Genis earns "Experimental" for changing his weapon a lot in one battle. Changing equipment during battle is rarely necessary, other than if you suddenly realize that you should have used a different loadout, and even that isn't doing to happen ''repeatedly in the same fight''.

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*** Genis earns "Experimental" for changing his weapon a lot in one battle. Changing equipment during battle is rarely necessary, other than if you suddenly realize that you should have used a different loadout, and even that isn't doing going to happen ''repeatedly in the same fight''.

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* TurnsRed: {{Superboss}} Abyssion starts using attacks like Indignation Judgment and Meteor Storm when his HP is low.

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** [[spoiler:Celes, in her optional fight in the Meltokio Coliseum,]] will start fighting more aggressively and using a wider variety of moves after losing enough HP, [[DidntNeedThoseAnyway signalled by their hat falling off]].
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* PermanentlyMissableContent: Characters may obtain titles that boost stats upon level up. Some of them require doing a specific task (e.g. defeat a boss without receiving a KO earlier in the game), while others get closed off as the plot advances.

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* TurnsRed:
** Played straight by {{superboss}} Abyssion, who starts using attacks like Indignation Judgment and Meteor Storm when his HP is low, and subverted in the case that [[TheHero Lloyd]]'s [[LimitBreak Falcon's Crest]] becomes available to him only when his HP is lower than 16%, so it's the player character turning red.
** Also, Genis and Sheena's strongest attacks can only be performed while in Overlimit- a Status Effect that is pretty much [[TurnsRed turning red]], but that can be activated through other means.
** The [[UpdatedRerelease PS2 version ]] gives the player even more of these. Raine and Regal's Mystic Artes require Overlimit, as does one of Zelos's. Kratos's Mystic Arte requires his HP to be lower than 16%. One of Zelos' Mystic Artes requires him to have [[BreadEggsBreadedEggs less that 16% of his HP]] ''[[BreadEggsBreadedEggs and]]'' [[BreadEggsBreadedEggs be in Overlimit]]. The crowner goes to Presea, whose second Mystic Arte requires her to have less than 10% of her HP remaining, be in Overlimit, ''and'' activate a compound EX Skill to further boost her attack power, while the rest of the party is KO'd.

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** Also, Genis and Sheena's strongest attacks can only be performed while in Overlimit- a Status Effect that is pretty much [[TurnsRed turning red]], but that can be activated through other means.
** The [[UpdatedRerelease PS2 version ]] gives the player even more of these. Raine and Regal's Mystic Artes require Overlimit, as does one of Zelos's. Kratos's Mystic Arte requires his HP to be lower than 16%. One of Zelos' Mystic Artes requires him to have [[BreadEggsBreadedEggs less that 16% of his HP]] ''[[BreadEggsBreadedEggs and]]'' [[BreadEggsBreadedEggs be in Overlimit]]. The crowner goes to Presea, whose second Mystic Arte requires her to have less than 10% of her HP remaining, be in Overlimit, ''and'' activate a compound EX Skill to further boost her attack power, while the rest of the party is KO'd.
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* LiteralistSnarking: In one optional scene, Zelos invites Sheena on an impromptu Rheiard flight, "just you and the Chosen". Sheena sarcastically asks if that means Colette's free.
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* UnaffectedBySpice: A Gnomelette in the Temple of Earth wants to experience "spiciness" and demands the party make some spicy curry. Depending on who is picked to cook, the ensuing cutscene implies to some degree that Gnomelettes don't actually have a sense of taste, making the Gnomelette able to eat it no matter how spicy the cook made it.
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* MeaningfulRename: At the end of the game, after finally sprouting the new WorldTree, its spirit tells Lloyd that this is not the Giant Kharlan Tree, but a new tree for a new world, and asks Lloyd to give it a new name accordingly. [[TheUnreveal The cutscene ends right before he says the new name]], but context clues both in and out of universe suggest that [[spoiler:he will name it Yggdrasill]].

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the Zelos thing is What Could Have Been and not in the game as published; the Kratos thing is him playing by the exact same rules as the other characters instead of getting a special case. here's an actual example instead


* YouLoseAtZeroTrust: While the RelationshipValues system in the game generally has little impact on the story apart from determining the way certain scenes play out, there are a few instances where failure to cultivate any level of camaraderie with particular characters will result in negative consequences.
** Most significantly, Zelos's trust in the party is the biggest determinant for whether he decides to [[spoiler:pull a SuicideByCop on the party or survives that visit to the tower]], and if his points are in the red he will automatically do the former.
** In the updated/ported versions of the game, if the player makes choices that result in Kratos having the lowest trust in the party, he won't show up in Flanoir to speak to Lloyd at all.

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* YouLoseAtZeroTrust: While If the RelationshipValues system in character [[spoiler:bodyjacked by Mithos]] has unusually low affection (which is pretty unlikely, as this character is either the chosen soulmate or, on Kratos's route, [[DevelopersDesiredDate Colette, who tends to have high affection no matter what]]), they'll be rescued at the end of Welgaia instead of the beginning. [[DownplayedTrope This relatively minor example is the only time the game generally has little impact on the story apart from determining the way certain scenes play out, there are a few instances where failure to cultivate any level of camaraderie with particular characters will result in negative consequences.
** Most significantly, Zelos's trust in the party is the biggest determinant for whether he decides to [[spoiler:pull a SuicideByCop on the party or survives that visit to the tower]], and if his points are in the red he will automatically do the former.
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* EscortMission: The Temple of Darkness features the party escorting five fragments of Shadow, the Summon Spirit of Darkness, to the bottom of the temple. [[ThatOneLevel Player hatred ensues]].

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** The Temple of Earth requires escorting a Gnomelette down a monster-infested path, defeating anything in the way because the Gnomelette will freak out upon touching a monster. This is annoying mainly because it's slow, but also because if you enter the final exit half a second before the Gnomelette does, the whole escort will have to be redone.
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The Temple of Darkness features the party escorting five fragments of Shadow, the Summon Spirit of Darkness, to the bottom of the temple. [[ThatOneLevel Player hatred ensues]].Thankfully, they don't care about touching monsters -- instead, [[ArtificialStupidity they have extremely crude pathfinding and a tendency to dart about randomly for no reason]].



* ZeroGSpot: Referenced in a skit between Zelos and Lloyd, the latter of whom [[ChasteHero having no idea what the former's talking about]].
* ZipMode: The game often lets you "quick jump" through a dungeon you have already traversed when you have to go back to its final room for plot reasons. One time it simply doesn't happen. Lloyd gets amusingly frustrated about it in a rare moment of BreakingTheFourthWall.

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* ZeroGSpot: Referenced in a There's an area [[spoiler:while descending the Tower of Salvation]] where gravity doesn't work. A skit between that can pop up in this area involves Zelos and Lloyd, the latter of whom fantasizing about bringing a girl up here for "fun", which Lloyd [[ChasteHero having no idea what the former's talking about]].
misinterprets as playing tag]].
* ZipMode: ZipMode:
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The game often lets you "quick jump" through a dungeon you have already traversed when you have to go back to its final room for plot reasons. One time it simply doesn't happen. Lloyd gets amusingly frustrated about it in a rare moment of BreakingTheFourthWall.BreakingTheFourthWall.
** A few [=NPCs=] in Sylvarant ask to be escorted somewhere else, such as between Palmacosta and Hakonesia Peak. Accepting their offer instantly teleports them and the player party to their destination.
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** After you make a summon pact with Undine, you can go make pacts with Efreet and Sylph as well. There's no in-story reason to do this, but it will unlock them as spells earlier and save you the trouble of going back for them later in the game when you need all the Summon Spirits. The bosses are even returned to match your current level.

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** After you make a summon pact with Undine, you can go make pacts with Efreet and Sylph as well. There's no in-story reason to do this, but it will unlock them as spells earlier and save you the trouble of going back for them later in the game when you need all the Summon Spirits. The bosses are even returned retuned to match your current level.

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