History Videogame / TalesOfPhantasia

19th Jan '16 7:04:12 PM SPNova
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** Also [[spoiler:Lower Morlia and the Dwarven Ruins, which double as both BonusDungeon and DroughtLevelOfDoom]].
19th Jan '16 6:53:27 PM SPNova
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* AbsurdlyHighLevelCap: Confirmed to be ''999''. To compare, the party finishes learning most of their skills by level 55, and the most difficult parts of the game can be conquered just a little past level 70.
18th Jan '16 1:05:19 PM PhiSat
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* AlwaysChaoticEvil: Averted with demons. Some are evil and aligned with Dhaos, but Chameleon, Gremlin's Lair, and Pluto are all demonic spirits who can be recruited to help save the world.
18th Jan '16 2:37:58 AM aye_amber
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* YourTerroristsAreOurFreedomFighters: Perhaps one of the most triumphant examples of this - they practically ''say'' the trope ''word-for-word''!
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* YourTerroristsAreOurFreedomFighters: Perhaps one of the most triumphant examples of this - -- they practically ''say'' the trope ''word-for-word''!
15th Jan '16 10:35:58 PM jormis29
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%%* MightyGlacier: For quite a large number of boss fights (Past Dhaos and Fen Wolf, I'm looking at you), Arche and Claus deal most of the damage while Cress is just a glorified meat shield for the rest of the party, as Mint faithfully spams her strongest heals on Cress. Granted that for an overwhelming portion of the game that your party will be the WhiteMage, the CuteWitch, the {{Summoner}}, and Cress the meat shield, Cress dying in a battle pretty much means that shit will hit the fan.
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%%* MightyGlacier: For quite a large number of boss fights (Past Dhaos and Fen Wolf, I'm looking at you), Arche and Claus deal most of the damage while Cress is just a glorified meat shield for the rest of the party, as Mint faithfully spams her strongest heals on Cress. Granted that for an overwhelming portion of the game that your party will be the WhiteMage, the CuteWitch, the {{Summoner}}, [[SummonMagic Summoner]], and Cress the meat shield, Cress dying in a battle pretty much means that shit will hit the fan.

* {{Throw The Book At Them}}: Claus. He is a {{Summoner}}, not a physical attacker, but he WILL whack enemies with his book if they get too close.
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* {{Throw The Book At Them}}: Claus. He is a {{Summoner}}, [[SummonMagic Summoner]], not a physical attacker, but he WILL whack enemies with his book if they get too close.
28th Dec '15 9:26:53 AM Reign
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* MarathonLevel: The Valhalla War sequence.
30th Oct '15 8:50:11 PM FF32
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** Dhaos [[spoiler:orders the total and absolute elimination of any communities he deems has any remote connection whatsoever to magitech development. This often includes completely clueless children who are murdered for the sole reason of being the unlucky offspring or relatives of magitech scientists. Aseria's magitech research was rushed into unstable development to (whoops) combat Dhaos's own pre-emptive threats against the planet. Furthermore, when the party rushes Dhaos's palace following the Valhalla battle, he puts on his trollface and simply questions them--a group of soldiers clearly representing a society he has already threatened to annihilate--on what their reasons are for coming to kill him. This is a problem on its own, since he already brainwashed Meia to personally assassinate the party earlier in the game. Dhaos consciously decides to exert a form of omnipotent racial discrimination and become the judge, jury, and executioner of Aseria to benefit Derris Kharlan.]] In all practicality, he is utterly clueless to the ramifications of his actions at every level. The famous "If there is evil in this world..." quote is less thoughtful social commentary and more just illustrating Dhaos's ridiculous mindset that self-defense is a form of evil and mindraping people to commit atrocities somehow proves natural human malevolence. ** Dhaos ''is'' a very good candidate for AntiVillain, but this isn't obvious to Cress' party or the player due to ever only seeing him when he's in the middle of JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope. In the prequel novel ''Katararezaru Rekishi'', it's revealed that Midgard had been developing magitech weapons since before he arrived on Aselia, to combat the hordes of demons ''already hostile'' toward it. Dhaos attempted to talk down the head of the magitech research, Reisen, but Reisen suspected him of being a demon due to his alien mana and refused to listen to him. He then proceeded to ''attack Dhaos'', and although Dhaos escaped, his close friend Winona is severely injured in the attack, and Reisen claimed Dhaos attacked first, making him a fugitive and a wanted man, hunted by the guards of Midgard. Left with no other choice and no option to negotiate, Dhaos aligned himself with the demons attacking Midgard, in the hopes of stopping magitech development as quickly as possible. However, although he commands loyalty over his demons, ''he is not omnipotent or omniscient,'' and several of his demons went out of control, resulting in far more body counts than Dhaos would have liked; Demeter was only supposed to assassinate Rhea's parents for their role in magitech development, Rhea herself would have been spared as she was a close friend of Winona. Instead, Demeter went mad with the power granted to him by Dhaos, and slaughtered the entire town.
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** Dhaos [[spoiler:orders the total and absolute elimination of any communities he deems has any remote connection whatsoever to magitech magitek development. This often includes completely clueless children who are murdered for the sole reason of being the unlucky offspring or relatives of magitech magitek scientists. Aseria's magitech magitek research was rushed into unstable development to (whoops) combat Dhaos's own pre-emptive threats against the planet. Furthermore, when the party rushes Dhaos's palace following the Valhalla battle, he puts on his trollface and simply questions them--a group of soldiers clearly representing a society he has already threatened to annihilate--on what their reasons are for coming to kill him. This is a problem on its own, since he already brainwashed Meia to personally assassinate the party earlier in the game. Dhaos consciously decides to exert a form of omnipotent racial discrimination and become the judge, jury, and executioner of Aseria to benefit Derris Kharlan.]] In all practicality, he is utterly clueless to the ramifications of his actions at every level. The famous "If there is evil in this world..." quote is less thoughtful social commentary and more just illustrating Dhaos's ridiculous mindset that self-defense is a form of evil and mindraping people to commit atrocities somehow proves natural human malevolence. ** Dhaos ''is'' a very good candidate for AntiVillain, but this isn't obvious to Cress' party or the player due to ever only seeing him when he's in the middle of JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope. In the prequel novel ''Katararezaru Rekishi'', it's revealed that Midgard had been developing magitech magitek weapons since before he arrived on Aselia, to combat the hordes of demons ''already hostile'' toward it. Dhaos attempted to talk down the head of the magitech magitek research, Reisen, but Reisen suspected him of being a demon due to his alien mana and refused to listen to him. He then proceeded to ''attack Dhaos'', and although Dhaos escaped, his close friend Winona is severely injured in the attack, and Reisen claimed Dhaos attacked first, making him a fugitive and a wanted man, hunted by the guards of Midgard. Left with no other choice and no option to negotiate, Dhaos aligned himself with the demons attacking Midgard, in the hopes of stopping magitech magitek development as quickly as possible. However, although he commands loyalty over his demons, ''he is not omnipotent or omniscient,'' and several of his demons went out of control, resulting in far more body counts than Dhaos would have liked; Demeter was only supposed to assassinate Rhea's parents for their role in magitech magitek development, Rhea herself would have been spared as she was a close friend of Winona. Instead, Demeter went mad with the power granted to him by Dhaos, and slaughtered the entire town.

** The Mana Cannon existing before Dhaos in the OVA might seem like a retcon, but it's actually (very, very) vaguely implied in the game: the elves stopped communicating with humans ten years or so before the Past section, due to "humanity's foolish actions," which we can assume to be magitech research. Of course, the elves clearly never bothered to tell humans what the problem actually was, so yeah. Poor communication all around.
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** The Mana Cannon existing before Dhaos in the OVA might seem like a retcon, but it's actually (very, very) vaguely implied in the game: the elves stopped communicating with humans ten years or so before the Past section, due to "humanity's foolish actions," which we can assume to be magitech magitek research. Of course, the elves clearly never bothered to tell humans what the problem actually was, so yeah. Poor communication all around.

* KarmaHoudini: Reisen, the head of the magitech research, whose actions basically kickstarted the entire plot of the game by killing the Yggdrasil and antagonizing Dhaos to the point of making a peaceful solution impossible, never gets so much as fired from his job or even called out on everything he's responsible for.
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* KarmaHoudini: Reisen, the head of the magitech magitek research, whose actions basically kickstarted the entire plot of the game by killing the Yggdrasil and antagonizing Dhaos to the point of making a peaceful solution impossible, never gets so much as fired from his job or even called out on everything he's responsible for.

* MedievalStasis: part usage and part aversion. Not much happens between the "past" era and the "present" era, but the "future" era is beginning to rediscover {{Magitech}} lost in the meteor impact
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* MedievalStasis: part usage and part aversion. Not much happens between the "past" era and the "present" era, but the "future" era is beginning to rediscover {{Magitech}} {{Magitek}} lost in the meteor impact
15th Oct '15 9:54:27 AM HighCrate
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The Mighty Glacier example is poorly-written, confusing, and full of natter. Which of the half-dozen character names you just threw at the reader is the Mighty Glacier in this example? What qualifies them as one? Are they strong? Are they slow?
* MergedReality * MightyGlacier: For quite a large number of boss fights (Past Dhaos and Fen Wolf, I'm looking at you), Arche and Claus deal most of the damage while Cress is just a glorified meat shield for the rest of the party, as Mint faithfully spams her strongest heals on Cress. Granted that for an overwhelming portion of the game that your party will be the WhiteMage, the CuteWitch, the {{Summoner}}, and Cress the meat shield, Cress dying in a battle pretty much means that shit will hit the fan. ** He's also good for interrupting casters. That's about it, but it's the player's job in most of the series anyway. *** It's actually kind of nice to have a protagonist who isn't [[VideoGame/ChronoTrigger tank, healer, and caster]] [[VideoGame/MOTHER1 all]] [[VideoGame/{{Earthbound}} by]] [[VideoGame/{{Mother 3}} himself]]. * MonsterArena
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* %%* MergedReality * %%* MightyGlacier: For quite a large number of boss fights (Past Dhaos and Fen Wolf, I'm looking at you), Arche and Claus deal most of the damage while Cress is just a glorified meat shield for the rest of the party, as Mint faithfully spams her strongest heals on Cress. Granted that for an overwhelming portion of the game that your party will be the WhiteMage, the CuteWitch, the {{Summoner}}, and Cress the meat shield, Cress dying in a battle pretty much means that shit will hit the fan. ** %%** He's also good for interrupting casters. That's about it, but it's the player's job in most of the series anyway. *** %%*** It's actually kind of nice to have a protagonist who isn't [[VideoGame/ChronoTrigger tank, healer, and caster]] [[VideoGame/MOTHER1 all]] [[VideoGame/{{Earthbound}} by]] [[VideoGame/{{Mother 3}} himself]]. * %%* MonsterArena

* NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast: Mars' name in the DeJap FanTranslation is Malice. ** Mars isn't anything to sneeze at either, since it's the Roman name for the god of war.
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* NamesToRunAwayFromReallyFast: Mars' name in the DeJap FanTranslation is Malice. ** Malice. Mars isn't anything to sneeze at either, since it's the Roman name for the god of war.
18th Sep '15 6:44:38 PM SpaceDrake
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** It also has to be noted that Mint is a ''real'' sore thumb when it comes to the "magic" thing. Apparently her healing arts don't count as "magic", but then the game never, ever explains what the hell the source of her power ''is''. It isn't "divine", apparently, it isn't some kind of weird science... and it doesn't count as "magic" for the purposes of Yggdrasil being dead and defeating Dhaos.
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** It also has to be noted that Mint is a ''real'' sore thumb when it comes to the "magic" thing. Apparently her healing arts don't count as "magic", but then the game never, ever explains what the hell the source of her power ''is''. It isn't It's sort of vaguely "divine", apparently, it isn't some kind of weird science...apparently... and it doesn't count as "magic" for the purposes of Yggdrasil being dead and defeating Dhaos.
18th Sep '15 6:41:21 PM SpaceDrake
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* GameplayAndStorySegregation: One of the major goals in the early part of the game is to find people who have magical powers in order to defeat Dhaos, because humans cannot use magic. Nope. Not even a little bit. Shoot plasma bolts and lightning? Turn into a giant flaming bird? ''Teleport?!'' No problem! But they can't use magic. ** Speaking of defeating Dhaos, in the story he's supposed to be completely immune to anything but magic, which is why the party is gathering magic users. However in most versions other than the original;, anytime the party fights him any of the party can whack him with nonelemental weapons and purely physical arts as much as they want and it'll damage him, though he might be resistant against physical attacks during some fights, he's never completely immune. (This one veers on AcceptableBreaksFromReality though)
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* GameplayAndStorySegregation: One of the major goals in the early part of the game is to find people who have magical powers in order to defeat Dhaos, because humans cannot use magic. Nope. Not even a little bit. Shoot plasma bolts and lightning? Heal people with light? Turn into a giant flaming bird? ''Teleport?!'' No problem! But they can't use magic. ** Speaking of defeating Dhaos, in the story he's supposed to be completely immune to anything but magic, which is why the party is gathering magic users. However in most versions other than the original;, anytime the party fights him any of the party can whack him with nonelemental weapons and purely physical arts as much as they want and it'll damage him, though he might be resistant against physical attacks during some fights, he's never completely immune. (This one veers on AcceptableBreaksFromReality though) AcceptableBreaksFromReality, though.) ** It also has to be noted that Mint is a ''real'' sore thumb when it comes to the "magic" thing. Apparently her healing arts don't count as "magic", but then the game never, ever explains what the hell the source of her power ''is''. It isn't "divine", apparently, it isn't some kind of weird science... and it doesn't count as "magic" for the purposes of Yggdrasil being dead and defeating Dhaos.
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