History Videogame / PokemonGoldandSilver

16th Apr '18 9:06:07 PM MayIncon
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** You can trade an easy-to-acquire Drowzee for a Machop in Goldenrod City. Machop, a Fighting-type, is strong against the local Normal-type Gym Leader Whitney (though you're going to have to do a bit of LevelGrinding with it). As a bonus, it is also female, meaning you won't have to deal with the hindrance of Miltank's Attract.
** The player can take a very short detour to Route 46, just north of the first route the player travels on, and acquire a Geodude, which has an advantage for the first four gyms and most of Team Rocket, but becomes detrimental once you fight the Fighting, Steel, and Ice gyms, which have an advantage over the Rock/Ground Geodude. Graveler, and Golem.

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** You can trade an easy-to-acquire Drowzee for a Machop in Goldenrod City. Machop, a Fighting-type, is strong against the local Normal-type Gym Leader Whitney (though you're going to have to do a bit of LevelGrinding with it).it) and resists its Rollout. As a bonus, it is also female, meaning you won't have to deal with the hindrance of Miltank's Attract.
** The player can take a very short detour to Route 46, just north of the first route the player travels on, and acquire a Geodude, which has an advantage for the first four gyms and most of Team Rocket, but becomes detrimental once you fight the Fighting, Steel, Ice, and Ice Dragon (the last two also prominently feature Water-types) gyms, which have an advantage over the Rock/Ground Geodude. Geodude, Graveler, and Golem.
12th Apr '18 9:51:18 AM Rytex
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* TheComputerIsACheatingBastard: Lance's Aerodactyl has Rock Slide. Funnily enough, this is only illegal in these games; later games let it learn the move from Move Tutor, TM, and later as a level-up move.

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* TheComputerIsACheatingBastard: Lance's Aerodactyl has Rock Slide. Funnily enough, this is only illegal in these games; later games let it learn the move from Move Tutor, TM, and later as a level-up move. He also has three Dragonites that are lower levels (2x 47, 1x 50) than when Dragonite actually evolves from Dragonair (55). This carries over from the earlier games, where he had a Dragonite that knew Agility, normally a move Dragonite cannot learn.



** Red, the player character from the first generation, is the TrueFinalBoss of the game on the top of Mt. Silver. His team comprises the three Kanto Starters, Pikachu, the gift Eevee evolved into a Espeon, and a Snorlax (implied to be the one that doesn't show up when you traverse Kanto yourself, as there were two originally).

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** Red, the player character from the first generation, is the TrueFinalBoss of the game on the top of Mt. Silver. His team comprises the three Kanto Starters, Pikachu, the gift Eevee evolved into a an Espeon, and a Snorlax (implied to be the one that doesn't show up when you traverse Kanto yourself, as there were two originally).



** The player can take a very short detour to Route 46, just north of the first route the player travels on, and acquire a Geodude, which has an advantage for the first four gyms and most of Team Rocket.

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** The player can take a very short detour to Route 46, just north of the first route the player travels on, and acquire a Geodude, which has an advantage for the first four gyms and most of Team Rocket.Rocket, but becomes detrimental once you fight the Fighting, Steel, and Ice gyms, which have an advantage over the Rock/Ground Geodude. Graveler, and Golem.



** Getting a Dratini at the slots and leveling it to 22 gives it Dragon Rage, which does an assured 40 damage against everything, making almost every encounter up until Pryce a breeze, and that only helps it grow into the pseudolegendary Dragonite all the faster.



* ForcedLevelGrinding: The cities tend to have Pokemon trainers that are at a higher level than the Pokemon (and sometimes even the other trainers) surrounding them. It reaches a head in the late game, where (for example) the Mahogany gym's trainers are all around level 20-25 while the Pokemon in the area just preceeding them are only around level 15, and the Blackthorn gym has trainers in the low-mid 30s while the Pokemon surrounding them are around level 20-25. It reaches a head in Victory Road, where trainers are level around 40-45 while the Pokemon surrounding them are still only level 30-35.

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* ForcedLevelGrinding: The cities tend to have Pokemon trainers that are at a higher level than the Pokemon (and sometimes even the other trainers) surrounding them. It reaches a head gets bad in the late game, where (for example) the Mahogany gym's trainers are all around level 20-25 while the Pokemon in the area just preceeding them are only around level 15, and the Blackthorn gym has trainers in the low-mid 30s while the Pokemon surrounding them are around level 20-25. It reaches a head in Victory Road, where trainers are level around 40-45 while the Pokemon surrounding them are still only level 30-35.30-35, and the Elite 4 can reach as high as level 50. And then there's Kanto, where the Mons on the routes around towns are still as low as the old games, but the gym leaders are all near the Elite 4's levels...



* HotSkittyOnWailordAction: TropeMaker for the franchise. ''Pokémon'' was also the TropeNamer by way of [[VideoGame/PokemonRubyAndSapphire Generation III]].

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* HotSkittyOnWailordAction: TropeMaker for the franchise. ''Pokémon'' was also franchise via Egg Groups, though the TropeNamer by way of didn't come until [[VideoGame/PokemonRubyAndSapphire Generation III]].



* MyNameIsQuestionMarks: This is how the rival first introduces himself. Of course the player is supposed to name the rival themselves but many a young kid actually still picked "???" as the real name.

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* MyNameIsQuestionMarks: This is Provides the trope image, due to how the rival first introduces himself. Of course introduced themself, and how the player is supposed to police officer in New Bark Town asked what the kid's name was. Many a kid took the rival themselves but many a young kid actually still picked "???" as the real statement "My name's ???" to be literally his name.



* ThePowerOfFriendship: Introduced in these games is the Friendship mechanic, which causes Pokémon to like you by fulfilling certain tasks or just walking around enough. Some Pokémon require high friendship ratings to evolve, while the mechanic is also the basis for damage dealt by the moves Return and Frustration.

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* ThePowerOfFriendship: Introduced Originally introduced in these games is Yellow, the Friendship mechanic, which mechanic got an overhaul in this game. Like Yellow, it causes Pokémon to like you by fulfilling certain tasks or just walking around enough. Unlike yellow, it actually does something. Some Pokémon require high friendship ratings to evolve, while the mechanic is also the basis for damage dealt by the moves Return and Frustration.



* RedundantResearcher: Come on, Alph Ruins researchers. It does not take ten years to assemble a jigsaw puzzle, especially one that has perfectly square pieces instead of being shaped like a typical jigsaw puzzle.

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* RedundantResearcher: Come on, Alph Ruins researchers. It does not take ten years to assemble a jigsaw puzzle, especially one that has perfectly square pieces instead of being shaped like a typical jigsaw puzzle.puzzle, nor does it take you that long to figure out that the pokemon being used as letters spell out words in the same language.
24th Mar '18 10:33:30 PM Chasem
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* WolverinePublicity: Charizard appears in the intros of ''Gold'' and ''Silver'' despite being unavailable in-game (although it's on the teams of Lance and Red, the game's two "Champions", it isn't even their signature Pokémon). This is {{inverted|trope}} in ''[=HeartGold=]'' and ''[=SoulSilver=]'', where Charizard is indeed available at the very end of the game but is absent from the intro.
21st Mar '18 1:35:40 PM CyberXIII
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** BigBad:[[Spoiler:Giovanni. Everything the executives do is to bring him out of retirement, and it almost works.]]
** TheDragon: Archer, the true interim boss of Team Rocket. Despite Ariana's boasting, he's the strongest and the one in charge of the Tower takeover plan. Also a DragonInChief and DragonAscendant.

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** BigBad:[[Spoiler:Giovanni.BigBad:[[spoiler:Giovanni. Everything the executives do is to bring him out of retirement, and it almost works.]]
** TheDragon: Archer, the true interim boss of Team Rocket. Despite Ariana's boasting, he's the strongest and the one in charge of the Tower takeover plan. [[spoiler: Also a DragonInChief and DragonAscendant.outside of the Celebi event, as without that the Team Rocket plot ends with his defeat.]]
21st Mar '18 1:33:53 PM CyberXIII
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* FiveBadBand:
**BigBad:[[Spoiler:Giovanni. Everything the executives do is to bring him out of retirement, and it almost works.]]
**TheDragon: Archer, the true interim boss of Team Rocket. Despite Ariana's boasting, he's the strongest and the one in charge of the Tower takeover plan. Also a DragonInChief and DragonAscendant.
**EvilGenius: Ariana. She's the one behind the Mahogany town plan, and oversees the base underground, and made most of the plans Archer implements.
**TheBrute: Proton, easily the most violent of the Executives.
**DarkChick: Petrel, the weakest and the one most likely to try weird tactics like an army of Koffing and Weezing.
**SixthRangerTraitor: Silver, [[spoiler:Giovanni's son, who ran off and wants nothing to do with his father or his father's organization. Despite this, he implements many of his father's bad habits and functions as your EvilCounterpart for much of the game.]]
17th Mar '18 11:02:12 PM MayIncon
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* RougeAnglesOfSatin: Invoked by one of the questions in the Radio Quiz, which Whitney lampshaded by telling the player how she got it wrong because she was confused between the words "apricot" and "apricorn".

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* RougeAnglesOfSatin: Invoked by one of the questions in the Radio Quiz, which Whitney lampshaded by telling the player how she got it wrong because she was confused between the words "apricot" and "apricorn"."apricorn" (which itself is a portmanteau of the words "apricot" and "acorn").
15th Mar '18 6:17:49 PM SpinAttaxx
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* NewWorldTease: It's possible to head over to Route 27 in Kanto as soon as the player gets the ability to use Surf outside of battle, with an NPC even saying you've taken your first step there. Keep going without Waterfall, though, and you'll hit a dead end. Even once you get it, you can't explore Kanto thoroughly until defeating the Elite Four.


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* DemotedToExtra: Although Suicune retains a level of importance as it did in ''Crystal'', it's not the focus of the story as it was then, with Ho-Oh/Lugia taking its role as the ClimaxBoss. You can't even battle it until Kanto, and even then it's totally optional.


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** If the above doesn't sound too appealing, you can buy the [=TMs=] for Fire Blast, Thunder, Blizzard, and Focus Blast (''very'' useful against Whitney's Normal-types) in the Goldenrod Department Store. Granted, you probably won't be able to afford every single one yet, but if you can accept their low accuracy, you'll have some of the strongest moves before the third Gym.


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** The Choice Specs can be found almost as soon as one arrives at the Lake of Rage. Though they can't be accessed on Wednesday (when the lake isn't flooded), getting them significantly boosts a Pokémon's Special Attack at the cost of locking them into one move. But if you can get away with spamming a certain move on an enemy (such as Ice Beam or Blizzard on Lance's three Dragonite), it's well worth it.
15th Mar '18 7:47:07 AM MayIncon
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* AdaptationExpansion: Parts of ''Crystal'' have been added like the Suicune subplot, locations in Kanto that were left out in the originals due to space limitations (like Cerulean Cave) have been restored, brand new locations have been added, and Pokémon from newer Generations can be encountered and caught.

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* AdaptationExpansion: Parts of ''Crystal'' have been added like the Suicune subplot, subplot and the Dragon's Den, locations in Kanto that were left out in the originals due to space limitations (like Cerulean Cave) have been restored, brand new locations have been added, and Pokémon from newer Generations can be encountered and caught.


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* RougeAnglesOfSatin: Invoked by one of the questions in the Radio Quiz, which Whitney lampshaded by telling the player how she got it wrong because she was confused between the words "apricot" and "apricorn".
7th Mar '18 3:47:28 PM SpinAttaxx
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** You can transfer Pokémon from ''[[VideoGame/PokemonRedAndBlue Red, Blue, and Yellow]]'' by using the time capsule in Ecruteak City. Some of them come with held items, like a Pikachu holding a Light Ball.

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** You can transfer Pokémon from ''[[VideoGame/PokemonRedAndBlue Red, Blue, and Yellow]]'' by using the time capsule in Ecruteak City. Some of them come with held items, like a Pikachu holding a Light Ball. Notably, this is the only time in the series where transferred Pokémon can be sent back to their game of origin, though they have to be one of the original 151 and can't know moves that weren't in the Gen I games.



* RegionalBonus: The Japanese version of ''Crystal'' includes a building in Goldenrod City called the Pokémon Communication Center, which is tied to a number of extra features (e.g. online trading, wireless battling, etc.) that utilize the Japan-exclusive Pokémon Mobile System GB and Mobile Game Boy Adapter accessories. It also gives access to a {{Sidequest}} that allows you to capture the {{Olympus Mon|s}} Celebi.

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* RegionalBonus: The Japanese version of ''Crystal'' includes a building in Goldenrod City called the Pokémon Communication Center, which is tied to a number of extra features (e.g. online trading, wireless battling, etc.) that utilize the Japan-exclusive Pokémon Mobile System GB and Mobile Game Boy Adapter accessories. It also gives access to a {{Sidequest}} that allows you to capture the {{Olympus Mon|s}} Celebi.Celebi -- said sidequest was translated in English, but [[DummiedOut went unused]] until the Virtual Console release.



* SlidingScaleOfContinuity: Definitely Level 3-4. This is possibly the only Pokémon game which carries on with the major events from VideoGame/PokemonRedAndBlue. The Johto Pokédex is considered as an extension of the Kanto Pokédex, you have to stop Team Rocket from returning to its former glory, and the Pokémon League is the same Indigo Plateau, and you get to visit the rest of Kanto as well. Most, if not all, characters from Kanto return, including the previous game's protagonist (who's [[TrueFinalBoss waiting for you at the top of Mt. Silver]]). And many of them have moved on with their lives. The only reason this isn't Level 5 is due to having to start with a new protagonist.

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* SlidingScaleOfContinuity: Definitely Level 3-4. This is possibly Until ''VideoGame/PokemonBlack2AndWhite2'', this was the only Pokémon ''Pokémon'' game to be a direct sequel, which carries on with the major events from VideoGame/PokemonRedAndBlue. ''VideoGame/PokemonRedAndBlue''. The Johto Pokédex is considered as an extension of the Kanto Pokédex, you have to stop Team Rocket from returning to its former glory, and the Pokémon League is at the same Indigo Plateau, and you get to visit the rest of Kanto as well. Most, if not all, characters from Kanto return, including the previous game's protagonist (who's [[TrueFinalBoss waiting for you at the top of Mt. Silver]]). And many of them have moved on with their lives. The only reason this isn't Level 5 is due to having to start with a new protagonist.



** A trainer you can battle in The Burned Tower is named Firebreather Dick. Unsurprisingly, his name was changed to Richard in the remakes. It's still a bit ironic, considering that the name Dick is a slang name for people named Richard.

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** A trainer you can battle in The the Burned Tower is named Firebreather Dick. Unsurprisingly, his name was changed to Richard in the remakes. It's still a bit ironic, considering that the name Dick is a slang name for people named Richard.



* VideoGameDelegationPenalty: You may choose to leave two of your Mons at the Pokémon Day Care. Pokémon in Day Care gain one experience point per every step the player takes. While its nice to have a Pokémon leveling-up while you simply walk around, there are several drawbacks to this method. For one, Pokémon in Day Care will not evolve. Two, if a Pokémon reaches a level where it can learn a new move, it will always learn that move; if the Pokemon already knows four moves, its first move will be forgotten and the new move will be placed last. This can lead to your Mons forgetting moves you wanted while learning moves you do not. Third, the Mon will not gain Effort Points as it would have if you leveled it up yourself through battle. This will leave it with somewhat lesser stats at higher levels than it would have had if you leveled it up yourself.

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* VideoGameDelegationPenalty: You may choose to leave two of your Mons at As before, the Day Care allows you to level up Pokémon Day Care. Pokémon in Day Care gain one experience point per every step as you walk, but with the player takes. While its nice catch of not being able to have a Pokémon leveling-up evolve while you simply walk around, there are several drawbacks to this method. For one, Pokémon in Day Care will not evolve. Two, if a Pokémon reaches a level where it can learn a new move, it will always learn that move; if there, as well as automatically forgetting the Pokemon already knows four moves, its first move will be forgotten and the new move will be placed last. This can lead to your Mons forgetting moves you wanted while in their movelist upon learning moves you do not. Third, a new move. Since breeding is introduced in these games, one ought to be careful if they want to keep one of the Mon will not gain Effort Points as it would have if you leveled it up yourself through battle. This will leave it with somewhat lesser stats at higher levels than it would have had if you leveled it up yourself.parents/are trying to get a certain move onto another Pokémon.



* AdaptationInducedPlotHole: A small one, but in the original games, a woman in the gate between Ilex Forest and Route 34 gave you [=TM12=], Sweet Scent, to help you complete your Pokedex. Sweet Scent has an out-of-battle effect to attract wild Pokemon, so this makes sense. In the remakes, her dialogue remains unchanged and you still get [=TM12=] from her, but Gen IV's [=TM12=] instead contains Taunt, a move that has no obvious use in aiding Pokemon captures.

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* AdaptationInducedPlotHole: AdaptationInducedPlotHole:
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A small one, but in the original games, a woman in the gate between Ilex Forest and Route 34 gave you [=TM12=], Sweet Scent, to help you complete your Pokedex. Sweet Scent has an out-of-battle effect to attract wild Pokemon, so this makes sense. In the remakes, her dialogue remains unchanged and you still get [=TM12=] from her, but Gen IV's [=TM12=] instead contains Taunt, a move that has no obvious use in aiding Pokemon captures.captures.
** Santos speaks in an unusually creepy and stilted way when you speak to him. In the originals, he gave you the Spell Tag (which powers up Ghost-type moves), hence why he spoke that way. However, he now gives you the Soft Sand (which powers up Ground-type moves) but still speaks like a CreepyChild, rendering this quirk nonsensical.



* AscendedExtra:
** Despite being the version mascots, it was completely possible for a player to go from New Bark Town to Mt. Silver without ever finding or even learning about Lugia and Ho-Oh in the originals. Here, they're a required battle before the player can go to the Pokémon League, and are given a small subplot about them returning to Johto after many years.
** Originally, the Kimono Girls were a group of mid-game minibosses who had to be beaten to get the Surf HM. This fight is instead pushed back to after getting all eight Johto badges, the girls each appear in different parts of the world before then, and are tied into the subplot with Lugia/Ho-Oh.



** Unlike the original ''Gold and Silver'', you can fight and catch Articuno, Zapdos, Moltres, and Mewtwo. Articuno, Zapdos, and Mewtwo are in their original areas while Moltres is in a new room in Mt. Silver.

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** Unlike the original ''Gold and Silver'', you can fight and catch Articuno, Zapdos, Moltres, and Mewtwo. Articuno, Zapdos, and Mewtwo are in their original areas areas, while Moltres is in a new room in Mt. Silver.



** While many of the changes the original games brought to Kanto due to space limitations have been undone, they are still handwaved in the games: it is stated, for example, that the Cerulean Cave did collapse at one point, but has since been rebuilt.

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** While many of the changes the original games brought to Kanto due to space limitations have been undone, they are still handwaved in the games: it is stated, for example, that the Cerulean Cave did ''did'' collapse at one point, but has since been rebuilt.
5th Mar '18 5:27:47 PM Willbyr
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