History Videogame / Persona2

12th Dec '17 7:35:51 PM infernape612
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* CentralTheme: The duology tackles regret as a central theme; ''Eternal Punishment'' examines regret from the adult perspective, with many of the members either failing at finding something to do, stuck in the past, regretting the choices they made to this point, or simply stuck in stasis, unable to move on. However, Eternal Punishment, despite how heavy a story it usually is, also states optimistic messages about life's regrets in that it may indeed not be too late to find your way, or that even if you don't get to do what you want to do, you're not a failure, and you can keep trying to find something that works for you.

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* CentralTheme: The duology tackles regret as a central theme; ''Eternal Punishment'' examines regret from the adult perspective, with many of the members either failing at finding something to do, stuck in the past, regretting the choices they made to this point, or simply stuck in stasis, unable to move on. However, Eternal Punishment, ''Eternal Punishment'', despite how heavy a story it usually is, also states optimistic messages about life's regrets in that it may indeed not be too late to find your way, or that even if you don't get to do what you want to do, you're not a failure, and you can keep trying to find something that works for you.



* ChekhovsGunman: The first four playable good guys of ''Eternal Punishment'' all count [[spoiler: save Maya, as she was already important.]] However, special mention goes to Baofu, who we first see in ''Innocent Sin'' as a drunken lout who gives the young Tatsuya and Jun a lecture in a flashback, and whom you barely can recognize even if you played ''Eternal Punishment'', as he is missing his [[MakingASpectacleOfYourself l33t Hacker Shadez]] at the time.

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* ChekhovsGunman: The first four playable good guys of ''Eternal Punishment'' all count [[spoiler: save (save Maya, as she was already important.]] important). However, special mention goes to Baofu, who we first see in ''Innocent Sin'' as a drunken lout who gives the young Tatsuya and Jun a lecture in a flashback, and whom you barely can recognize even if you played ''Eternal Punishment'', as he is missing his [[MakingASpectacleOfYourself l33t Hacker Shadez]] at the time.



* ClassReunion:[[invoked]] Pretty much ''every'' [[NominalImportance nominal character]] from the first ''Persona'' reunites for this one. Even [[BackFromTheDead the dead ones]]. The only ones who didn't make it back are the Ayase/Alana, Masao/Mark and Tad.

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* ClassReunion:[[invoked]] Pretty much ''every'' [[NominalImportance nominal character]] from the first ''Persona'' reunites for this one. Even [[BackFromTheDead the dead ones]]. The only ones who didn't don't make it back are the Ayase/Alana, Masao/Mark and Tad.
12th Dec '17 7:26:52 PM infernape612
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* RagTagBunchOfMisfits: Both games, but particularly ''Eternal Punishment''. Ordinarily, these people wouldn't be seen within ten miles of each other.

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* RagTagBunchOfMisfits: RagtagBunchOfMisfits: Both games, but particularly ''Eternal Punishment''. Ordinarily, these people wouldn't be seen within ten miles of each other.



* RealityEnsues: In Eternal Punishment, If you try to eat food at certain restaurants that serve Liquir; they won't serve to Tatsuya because he's a minor.

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* RealityEnsues: In Eternal Punishment, If ''Eternal Punishment'', if you try to eat food at certain restaurants that serve Liquir; liquor, they won't serve to Tatsuya because he's a minor.
1st Nov '17 1:37:19 PM M3
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* DeadAllAlong: Two characters in ''Innocent Sin'' who appear despite having definitively died until rumors were spread turn out never to have revived: [[spoiler:Akinari Kashihara and Adolf Hitler, who are simply disguises used by Nyarlathotep]].

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* DeadAllAlong: Two characters in ''Innocent Sin'' who and one in ''Eternal Punishment'' appear despite having definitively died until rumors were spread turn out never to have revived: [[spoiler:Akinari Kashihara and Adolf Hitler, Hitler (IS) as well as Guido Kandori (EP), who are simply disguises used by Nyarlathotep]].
31st Oct '17 11:46:56 PM rmctagg09
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* BookEnds: The beginning of ''Eternal Punishment'' has Tatsuya [[spoiler:reunited with Maya in the new universe. The ending of ''Eternal Punishment'' has Maya reunited with Tatsuya in the new universe, though her reaction is different.]] Also, the beginning of Innocent Sin has Tatsuya either confident or unsure of what it is he wants to do with his life. The end of Eternal Punishment reveals what he wants to do.

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* BookEnds: The beginning of ''Eternal Punishment'' has Tatsuya [[spoiler:reunited with Maya in the new universe. The ending of ''Eternal Punishment'' has Maya reunited with Tatsuya in the new universe, though her reaction is different.]] Also, the beginning of Innocent Sin ''Innocent Sin'' has Tatsuya either confident or unsure of what it is he wants to do with his life. The end of Eternal Punishment ''Eternal Punishment'' reveals what he wants to do.



* CentralTheme: The duology tackles regret as a central theme; Eternal Punishment examines regret from the adult perspective, with many of the members either failing at finding something to do, stuck in the past, regretting the choices they made to this point, or simply stuck in stasis, unable to move on. However, Eternal Punishment, despite how heavy a story it usually is, also states optimistic messages about life's regrets in that it may indeed not be too late to find your way, or that even if you don't get to do what you want to do, you're not a failure, and you can keep trying to find something that works for you.

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* CentralTheme: The duology tackles regret as a central theme; Eternal Punishment ''Eternal Punishment'' examines regret from the adult perspective, with many of the members either failing at finding something to do, stuck in the past, regretting the choices they made to this point, or simply stuck in stasis, unable to move on. However, Eternal Punishment, despite how heavy a story it usually is, also states optimistic messages about life's regrets in that it may indeed not be too late to find your way, or that even if you don't get to do what you want to do, you're not a failure, and you can keep trying to find something that works for you.
31st Oct '17 2:57:14 PM M3
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* BookEnds: The beginning of ''Eternal Punishment'' has Tatsuya [[spoiler:reunited with Maya in the new universe. The ending of ''Eternal Punishment'' has Maya reunited with Tatsuya in the new universe, though her reaction is different.]]

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* BookEnds: The beginning of ''Eternal Punishment'' has Tatsuya [[spoiler:reunited with Maya in the new universe. The ending of ''Eternal Punishment'' has Maya reunited with Tatsuya in the new universe, though her reaction is different.]]]] Also, the beginning of Innocent Sin has Tatsuya either confident or unsure of what it is he wants to do with his life. The end of Eternal Punishment reveals what he wants to do.


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* CentralTheme: The duology tackles regret as a central theme; Eternal Punishment examines regret from the adult perspective, with many of the members either failing at finding something to do, stuck in the past, regretting the choices they made to this point, or simply stuck in stasis, unable to move on. However, Eternal Punishment, despite how heavy a story it usually is, also states optimistic messages about life's regrets in that it may indeed not be too late to find your way, or that even if you don't get to do what you want to do, you're not a failure, and you can keep trying to find something that works for you.
15th Oct '17 6:35:15 AM defciggy
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** It's not quite fair to just hit Jun with that, as the ''entire'' ''Innocent Sin'' cast falls into this trope though Jun takes the cake with his parental issues, with his borderline Electra complex and mommy issues. They ''all'' at least have some problem or other with their fathers. In fact, [[spoiler: the final boss of the game, Great Father, is a composite of all the characters' fathers.]]

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** It's not quite fair to just hit Jun with that, as the ''entire'' ''Innocent Sin'' cast falls into this trope though Jun takes the cake with his parental issues, with his borderline Electra complex and mommy issues. They ''all'' at least have some problem or other with their fathers. In fact, [[spoiler: the final boss of the game, Great Father, is a composite of all the characters' fathers.]]
29th Sep '17 9:38:29 PM Windrays
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* TokenMinority: The Caucasian Lisa Silverman from ''Innocent Sin,'' raised in Japan her entire life by her Japanophile parents. She's the only non-Japanese playable character in the series to date, discounting non-human characters like [[RobotGirl robot girls]] [[{{VideoGame/Persona 3}} Aigis]] and [[VideoGame/Persona4Arena Labrys]] (and both were created in a Japanese lab), and the [[spoiler:sentient Shadow]] [[{{VideoGame/Persona 4}} Teddie]] (and his ''own'' Persona is lifted from Japanese myths). Sumaru City in general also has a large array of foreigners, which the original game and its sequels mostly lack.

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* TokenMinority: The Caucasian Lisa Silverman from ''Innocent Sin,'' raised in Japan her entire life by her Japanophile parents. She's the only non-Japanese playable character in the series to date, discounting non-human characters like [[RobotGirl robot girls]] [[{{VideoGame/Persona 3}} Aigis]] and [[VideoGame/Persona4Arena Labrys]] (and both were created in a Japanese lab), and the [[spoiler:sentient Shadow]] [[{{VideoGame/Persona 4}} Teddie]] (and his ''own'' Persona is lifted from Japanese myths). Even [[{{VideoGame/Persona 5}} Ann Takamaki]], despite looking Caucasian, is still half-Japanese, half-American. Sumaru City in general also has a large array of foreigners, which the original game and its sequels mostly lack.
13th Sep '17 1:56:23 PM GrammarNavi
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* ApocalypseDayPlanner: Remarked on by Maya's coworkers during ''Eternal Punishment'''s prologue; the planets all aligned in the Grand Cross formation "this summer", but nothing happened. Those who've played the previous game remember things [[ApocalypseWow a]] [[DepopulationBomb little]] [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt differently]].

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* ApocalypseDayPlanner: JustForFun/ApocalypseDayPlanner: Remarked on by Maya's coworkers during ''Eternal Punishment'''s prologue; the planets all aligned in the Grand Cross formation "this summer", but nothing happened. Those who've played the previous game remember things [[ApocalypseWow a]] [[DepopulationBomb little]] [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt differently]].
9th Sep '17 10:07:02 AM matteste
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12th Aug '17 10:10:57 PM finalsurvivor1
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* DeadAllAlong: Two characters in ''Innocent Sin'' who appear despite having definitively died until rumors were spread turn out never to have revived: [[spoiler:Akinari Kashihara and Adolf Hitler, who are simply disguises used by Nyarlathotep]].


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** Father problems are so prevalent in ''Innocent Sin'' that [[spoiler:Nyarlathotep]]'s second form in the final battle of that game is a monstrous amalgamation of all five protagonist's fathers, headed by [[spoiler:Jun's, as Kashihara was one of Nyarlathotep's two main disguises]].


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* FinalBoss:
** In ''Innocent Sin'', Hitler confronts the party at the end of the final dungeon and fights them. After his defeat, [[spoiler:he reveals that both he and Kashihara are fakes being played by the same guy. Hitler turns into Kashihara and becomes a monster made of the party's fathers, with Kashihara at the head. Notably, it's only after the Great Father is beaten when it's revealed that the mastermind is Nyarlathotep]].
** In ''Eternal Punishment'', [[spoiler:Nyarlathotep]] makes his appearance after the fall of the New World Order and has the party go through one last dungeon, complete with Shadows of all the party members save Tatsuya. [[spoiler:Nyarlathotep]] takes on the appearance of ''Innocent Sin'' Tatsuya and fights the party with his main and true forms before a definitive defeat.
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