History Videogame / LegendOfMana

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* DudeLooksLikeALady: the hero, many players think the male player character is female. [[https://crossangelus.deviantart.com/art/Legend-of-Mana-3D-Model-Battle-Instance-TurnTable-537304777 Feast your eyes]]
28th Aug '17 1:59:39 PM theknack101
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* TokenEvilTeammate: Each major arc arguably has one.
** The Jumi arc has [[spoiler:Lady Blackpearl]] who, while not evil exactly, is perfectly willing to let one of her kind die if it means reviving the rest who had died over the years.
** The Dragon arc has Larc, who has sympathetic motives, but works for an evil man who wants to rule the world.
** The Fairy Arc has Escad. He has a MAJOR hatred of demons and Irwin in particular for taking Matilda's mana. He is a pretty big jerk to anyone who gets in his way and it is ambiguous how much of his hatred of Irwin is just jealousy that Matilda chose him over Escad.
** Outside the 3 arcs, we have Niccolo. He is an unrepentant conman who drags you into his increasingly immoral schemes. And with your help, he scams another (admittingly unsympathetic) character out of millions and never recieves any comeuppance. Oh, and he's racist towards sproutlings.
18th Aug '17 9:37:38 PM McJeff
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* BrokenBridge: The game uses Boinks - a monster that teleports you when you try to talk to it (or in some cases, get too close to it) - to keep you out of areas you shouldn't be in. For example, [[spoiler:Elle's cage]] is blocked by a Boink until the mission that introduces her starts.



%%* HiveMind: The Sproutlings and Flowerlings.

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%%* * HiveMind: The Sproutlings and Flowerlings.Flowerlings. As the manual says, 'there are many of them but they are all one.'



* RandomEffectSpell
6th Aug '17 7:20:47 PM dotchan
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* ThePasswordIsAlwaysGoldfish: The Penguin Pirate's secret password is "[[WhosOnFirst What]]", meaning you can accidentally give the correct answer when the pirates demand it of you.



*** Hell, any of the Cactus Diary entries are lost if you fail to talk to Lil' Cactus before finishing another event. This can be [[GuideDangIt very irritating]] for first-time players due to abruptly-ending events ("Mana Orchards" springs to mind) causing the previous event's entry to be lost, or even worse, the event "Lil' Cactus". Whatever you do, NEVER talk to Bud if you have a Diary entry waiting to be recorded. (Luckily, "Daddy's Broom" does not cause this same thing: while the cactus leaves, he also comes back before the event ends. Once again, however, failing to talk to Bud LAST will screw you over: if you don't, you'll lose Bud when you go back into the house to talk to Lil' Cactus, and he won't come back until after the event.)
** In addition, anything in The Flames or Lucemia is lost forever once those areas are no longer accessible. Luckily for us, the game's [[NewGamePlus cyclical nature]] means that "forever" lasts only until your current playthrough is over.

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*** Hell, ** Additionally, any of the Cactus Diary entries are lost if you fail to talk to Lil' Cactus before finishing another event. This can be [[GuideDangIt very irritating]] for first-time players due to abruptly-ending events ("Mana Orchards" springs to mind) causing the previous event's entry to be lost, or even worse, the event "Lil' Cactus". Whatever you do, NEVER talk to Bud if you have a Diary entry waiting to be recorded. (Luckily, "Daddy's Broom" does not cause this same thing: while the cactus leaves, he also comes back before the event ends. Once again, however, failing to talk to Bud LAST will screw you over: if you don't, you'll lose Bud when you go back into the house to talk to Lil' Cactus, and he won't come back until after the event.)
** In addition, anything Anything in The Flames or Lucemia is lost forever once those areas are no longer accessible. Luckily for us, the game's [[NewGamePlus cyclical nature]] means that "forever" lasts only until your current playthrough is over.
5th Aug '17 3:47:25 AM EhWhatCanYouDo
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* ThePowerOfLove: Subverted, as LoveMakesYouEvil, and it's Matilda's love for Irwin that makes her reluctant to act (but she's similarly bound by her duties, so she also refuses to leave them); by the end of her arc, Irwin has decided to reincarnate himself without any of his memories so that he doesn't have to deal with the tremendous mess that their relationship became.

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* ThePowerOfLove: Subverted, as LoveMakesYouEvil, Zigzagged. It's subverted in that the problems underlying every arc are initiated because LoveMakesYouEvil. It's played straight in that [[spoiler: the protagonist's compassion and it's Matilda's love for Irwin that makes her reluctant to act (but she's similarly bound by her duties, so she also refuses to leave them); by the end of her arc, Irwin has decided to reincarnate himself without any of his memories so that he doesn't have to deal with Jumi saves the tremendous mess that entire race when they shed a healing teardrop crystal, and seemingly in Daena's and Sierra's motivations to help you in your final fight of their relationship became.respective arcs.]] Interestingly, per The Cage of Dreams and The Legend of Mana events, the moral of the whole game seems to be, if the Mana Tree and the Mana Goddess are love, that ThePowerOfLove is worth the risk of LoveMakesYouEvil.
14th Feb '17 5:45:01 PM Gosicrystal
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* LoadsAndLoadsOfRaces: Hoo boy...humans, dwarves, elves, faeries, demons, mermaids, sirens (which are separate), centaurs, mummies, lizard women, chocobos, nagas, rabbit people, cat people, onion people, Dudbears, Jumi, people made of puzzle pieces, talking monkeys, talking teapots, talking penguins, talking walruses, talking pelicans, cavemen, mouse people, bird people, werewolves with dragon tails, gramophones with arms and faces, whatever the hell Rev. Nouvelle and Revanshe are...and that's not even getting into the monsters.
** [[AllThereInTheManual One of the many manuals]] explains that in this world, humans' appearance change subtly based on their experiences, and these new traits [[LamarckWasRight can be passed on to their children]]. But most of the above are still completely separate species.
* PermanentlyMissableContent:
** You can lose out on several quests if you refuse to take Bud and Lisa on as apprentices near the beginning of the game.
** In one of your sidequests, your Cactus (who is responsible for Cactus Diary entries) runs off and you have to find him. If you finish any of your other sidequests in the meantime, they will not be recorded as complete in said Diary and you'll have to wait for a NewGamePlus to try again.
*** Hell, any of the Cactus Diary entries are lost if you fail to talk to Lil' Cactus before finishing another event. This can be [[GuideDangIt very irritating]] for first-time players due to abruptly-ending events ("Mana Orchards" springs to mind) causing the previous event's entry to be lost, or even worse, the event "Lil' Cactus". Whatever you do, NEVER talk to Bud if you have a Diary entry waiting to be recorded. (Luckily, "Daddy's Broom" does not cause this same thing: while the cactus leaves, he also comes back before the event ends. Once again, however, failing to talk to Bud LAST will screw you over: if you don't, you'll lose Bud when you go back into the house to talk to Lil' Cactus, and he won't come back until after the event.)
** In addition, anything in The Flames or Lucemia is lost forever once those areas are no longer accessible. Luckily for us, the game's [[NewGamePlus cyclical nature]] means that "forever" lasts only until your current playthrough is over.
** The Heaven's Gate Arc is the hardest one of the three primary arcs to begin. A big part of this is that you can potentially miss out on it for the entire cycle if you go to the wrong level at the wrong time.

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* LoadsAndLoadsOfRaces: Hoo boy... humans, dwarves, elves, faeries, demons, mermaids, sirens (which are separate), centaurs, mummies, lizard women, chocobos, nagas, rabbit people, cat people, onion people, Dudbears, Jumi, people made of puzzle pieces, talking monkeys, talking teapots, talking penguins, talking walruses, talking pelicans, cavemen, mouse people, bird people, werewolves with dragon tails, gramophones with arms and faces, whatever the hell Rev. Nouvelle and Revanshe are... and that's not even getting into the monsters.
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monsters. [[AllThereInTheManual One of the many manuals]] explains that in this world, humans' appearance change subtly based on their experiences, and these new traits [[LamarckWasRight can be passed on to their children]]. But most of the above are still completely separate species.
* PermanentlyMissableContent:
** You can lose out on several quests if you refuse to take Bud and Lisa on as apprentices near the beginning of the game.
** In one of your sidequests, your Cactus (who is responsible for Cactus Diary entries) runs off and you have to find him. If you finish any of your other sidequests in the meantime, they will not be recorded as complete in said Diary and you'll have to wait for a NewGamePlus to try again.
*** Hell, any of the Cactus Diary entries are lost if you fail to talk to Lil' Cactus before finishing another event. This can be [[GuideDangIt very irritating]] for first-time players due to abruptly-ending events ("Mana Orchards" springs to mind) causing the previous event's entry to be lost, or even worse, the event "Lil' Cactus". Whatever you do, NEVER talk to Bud if you have a Diary entry waiting to be recorded. (Luckily, "Daddy's Broom" does not cause this same thing: while the cactus leaves, he also comes back before the event ends. Once again, however, failing to talk to Bud LAST will screw you over: if you don't, you'll lose Bud when you go back into the house to talk to Lil' Cactus, and he won't come back until after the event.)
** In addition, anything in The Flames or Lucemia is lost forever once those areas are no longer accessible. Luckily for us, the game's [[NewGamePlus cyclical nature]] means that "forever" lasts only until your current playthrough is over.
** The Heaven's Gate Arc is the hardest one of the three primary arcs to begin. A big part of this is that you can potentially miss out on it for the entire cycle if you go to the wrong level at the wrong time.
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** Tropicallo. No matter how hard you hit the hands, the boss takes a fixed amount of damage, and it only takes damage when it regenerates one of his knocked out heads. On higher difficulties this will take forever. And if you're caught in the [[ActionBomb self destructing]] hand's attack (that fills the entire screen) [[GameOver start the entire fight over]].
** You have to go through this fight ''twice'': Once for plot purposes, and afterwards for the most ridiculous RomanticPlotTumor you can imagine. Lord help you if you go through these quests on {{N|intendoHard}}o [[NewGamePlus Future]] mode.
** Tropicallo also has a younger brother, called Labanne. The only difference between both is that Labanne takes less damage to kill, and Labanne is fought on a much bigger screen so his self-destruct attack is much easier to dodge. For either of those bosses, the heads take morbid amounts of damage to kill on No Future mode. Anybody not using a weapon with over 500 attack power for Labanne, and with max attack power for Tropicallo is bound to get stuck on the bosses for quite a while. Hint: getting a weapon with over 300 attack already needs insane amounts of very precise tempering.

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** Tropicallo. No matter how hard you hit the hands, the boss takes a fixed amount of damage, and it only takes damage when it regenerates one of his knocked out heads. On higher difficulties this will take forever. And if you're caught in the [[ActionBomb self destructing]] self-destructing]] hand's attack (that fills the entire screen) screen), [[GameOver start the entire fight over]].
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over]]. You have to go through this fight ''twice'': Once for plot purposes, and afterwards for the most ridiculous RomanticPlotTumor you can imagine.romance ones. Lord help you if you go through these quests on {{N|intendoHard}}o [[NewGamePlus Future]] mode.
** Tropicallo also has a younger brother, called Labanne. The only difference between both is that Labanne takes less damage to kill, and Labanne is fought on a much bigger screen so his self-destruct attack is much easier to dodge. For either of those bosses, the heads take morbid amounts of damage to kill on No Future mode. Anybody not using a weapon with over 500 attack power for Labanne, and with max attack power for Tropicallo is bound to get stuck on the bosses for quite a while. Hint: getting a weapon with over 300 attack already needs insane amounts of very precise tempering.


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* PermanentlyMissableContent:
** You can lose out on several quests if you refuse to take Bud and Lisa on as apprentices near the beginning of the game.
** In one of your sidequests, your Cactus (who is responsible for Cactus Diary entries) runs off and you have to find him. If you finish any of your other sidequests in the meantime, they will not be recorded as complete in said Diary and you'll have to wait for a NewGamePlus to try again.
*** Hell, any of the Cactus Diary entries are lost if you fail to talk to Lil' Cactus before finishing another event. This can be [[GuideDangIt very irritating]] for first-time players due to abruptly-ending events ("Mana Orchards" springs to mind) causing the previous event's entry to be lost, or even worse, the event "Lil' Cactus". Whatever you do, NEVER talk to Bud if you have a Diary entry waiting to be recorded. (Luckily, "Daddy's Broom" does not cause this same thing: while the cactus leaves, he also comes back before the event ends. Once again, however, failing to talk to Bud LAST will screw you over: if you don't, you'll lose Bud when you go back into the house to talk to Lil' Cactus, and he won't come back until after the event.)
** In addition, anything in The Flames or Lucemia is lost forever once those areas are no longer accessible. Luckily for us, the game's [[NewGamePlus cyclical nature]] means that "forever" lasts only until your current playthrough is over.
** The Heaven's Gate Arc is the hardest one of the three primary arcs to begin. A big part of this is that you can potentially miss out on it for the entire cycle if you go to the wrong level at the wrong time.
14th Feb '17 5:39:38 PM Gosicrystal
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* GreenEyedMonster: Escad.
* GuideDangIt: Big time. Several missions involve needing to talk to specific people in a specific order with little info about where you're supposed to go. And as for the god-slaying sword mentioned in GameBreaker, good luck figuring out how to make one of those on your own.
** The placement of lands, including the original home site. The ideal setup for the aforementioned ItemCrafting stuff. Endless numbers of sidequests which can become LostForever (well, sort of, anyway) if you make one tiny little mistake. The whole... damned... GAME is one giant GuideDangIt. For details, see the YMMV page.
* HelplessGoodSide: Pearl.

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* %%* GreenEyedMonster: Escad.
* GuideDangIt: GuideDangIt:
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Big time. Several missions involve needing to talk to specific people in a specific order with little info about where you're supposed to go. And as for the god-slaying sword mentioned in GameBreaker, good luck figuring out how to make one of those on your own.
** The placement of lands, including the original home site. The ideal setup for the aforementioned ItemCrafting stuff. Endless numbers of sidequests which can become LostForever be [[PermanentlyMissableContent lost]] (well, sort of, anyway) if you make one tiny little mistake. The whole... damned... GAME is one giant GuideDangIt. For details, see the YMMV page.
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mistake.
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HelplessGoodSide: Pearl.



* HideYourLesbians: The manga made Alexandra male (all the time, with "Sandra" being [[CreepyCrossdresser a disguise]]) to make her BodyguardCrush on Florina more "acceptable".

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* HideYourLesbians: HideYourLesbians:
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The manga made Alexandra male (all the time, with "Sandra" being [[CreepyCrossdresser a disguise]]) to make her BodyguardCrush on Florina more "acceptable".



* HiveMind: The Sproutlings and Flowerlings.

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* %%* HiveMind: The Sproutlings and Flowerlings.



* InfinityPlusOneSword: Or Spear, bow, etc... Unique in that these weapons have to be crafted using not crafting recipes, but honest to god techniques and patterns. Getting a weapon to 200 with a basic understanding of the rules isn't too hard. Getting a 999 power weapon is a flat out GuideDangIt.
** Any weapons created this way can then be crafted into the body or logic block of an [[RobotBuddy infinity +1 Golem]].

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* InfinityPlusOneSword: Or Spear, bow, etc... Unique in that these weapons have to be crafted using not crafting recipes, but honest to god techniques and patterns. Getting a weapon to 200 with a basic understanding of the rules isn't too hard. Getting a 999 power weapon is a flat out GuideDangIt.
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GuideDangIt. Any weapons created this way can then be crafted into the body or logic block of an [[RobotBuddy infinity +1 Golem]].



* LostForever:

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* LostForever: PermanentlyMissableContent:



*** Hell, any of the Cactus Diary entries are LostForever if you fail to talk to Lil' Cactus before finishing another event. This can be [[GuideDangIt very irritating]] for first-time players due to abruptly-ending events ("Mana Orchards" springs to mind) causing the previous event's entry to be lost, or even worse, the event "Lil' Cactus". Whatever you do, NEVER talk to Bud if you have a Diary entry waiting to be recorded. (Luckily, "Daddy's Broom" does not cause this same thing: while the cactus leaves, he also comes back before the event ends. Once again, however, failing to talk to Bud LAST will screw you over: if you don't, you'll lose Bud when you go back into the house to talk to Lil' Cactus, and he won't come back until after the event.)

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*** Hell, any of the Cactus Diary entries are LostForever lost if you fail to talk to Lil' Cactus before finishing another event. This can be [[GuideDangIt very irritating]] for first-time players due to abruptly-ending events ("Mana Orchards" springs to mind) causing the previous event's entry to be lost, or even worse, the event "Lil' Cactus". Whatever you do, NEVER talk to Bud if you have a Diary entry waiting to be recorded. (Luckily, "Daddy's Broom" does not cause this same thing: while the cactus leaves, he also comes back before the event ends. Once again, however, failing to talk to Bud LAST will screw you over: if you don't, you'll lose Bud when you go back into the house to talk to Lil' Cactus, and he won't come back until after the event.)



* TheManBehindTheMan: The Lord of Jewels behind Sandra. Probably. The Lord of Jewels was conspicuously absent from the character profiles, and no one knows exactly what he wanted out of the whole deal.
** The Ultimania guide states that he [[spoiler: is a Star]], and that he is using the Jumi cores to evolve into his [[OneWingedAngel final form]]. Supposedly he will also [[spoiler: gain the power to create a crystal teardrop in the process]]. It is also stated that he is a man who loves beautiful things, and as he finds the Jumi beautiful he wants to help them, in his weird little way.

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* TheManBehindTheMan: The Lord of Jewels behind Sandra. Probably. The Lord of Jewels was conspicuously absent from the character profiles, and no one knows exactly what he wanted out of the whole deal.
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deal. The Ultimania guide states that he [[spoiler: is [[spoiler:is a Star]], and that he is using the Jumi cores to evolve into his [[OneWingedAngel final form]]. Supposedly he will also [[spoiler: gain [[spoiler:gain the power to create a crystal teardrop in the process]]. It is also stated that he is a man who loves beautiful things, and as he finds the Jumi beautiful he wants to help them, in his weird little way.
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** Also, save points come in the form of Sprite (the SquishyWizard of ''VideoGame/SecretOfMana'') statues.

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** Also, save points come in the form are statues of Sprite (the SquishyWizard of ''VideoGame/SecretOfMana'') statues.''VideoGame/SecretOfMana'').


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* TraumaInn: Present in Domina and Polpota Harbor, and though you never use them as such, {{NPC}}s can be seen staying there and speaking to whoever is behind the counter saves your game.
27th Sep '16 8:55:46 PM Angeldeb82
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* ShootTheDog: [[AllThereInTheManual Apparently]], Inspector Boyd was a huge Sandra fanboy back when she was a ClassyCatBurglar, but when she started killing Jumi, he became ashamed and decided to take her down before she went too far over the MoralEventHorizon.

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* ShootTheDog: [[AllThereInTheManual Apparently]], {{A|llThereInTheManual}}pparently, Inspector Boyd was a huge Sandra fanboy back when she was a ClassyCatBurglar, but when she started killing Jumi, he became ashamed and decided to take her down before she went too far over the MoralEventHorizon.



* SpaceWhale: Lord of Jewels 1000 looks somewhat like a whale, and you fight him on an AmazingTechnicolorBattlefield InSpace! Funnily enough the Lord of Jewels himself was some sort of fishman, and Lord of Jewels 999 was a faintly fish-like monster.

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* SpaceWhale: Lord of Jewels 1000 looks somewhat like a whale, and you fight him on an AmazingTechnicolorBattlefield InSpace! [[RecycledINSPACE IN SPACE]]! Funnily enough the Lord of Jewels himself was some sort of fishman, and Lord of Jewels 999 was a faintly fish-like monster.
27th Sep '16 8:52:18 PM Angeldeb82
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** Any weapons created this way can then be crafted into the body or logic block of an [[RobotBuddy infinity plus one Golem]].

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** Any weapons created this way can then be crafted into the body or logic block of an [[RobotBuddy infinity plus one +1 Golem]].
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