History VideoGame / WorldInConflict

22nd Apr '16 12:42:21 PM omegafire17
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* MajorlyAwesome: [[spoiler: The Player Character in the end. Going from 1st Lieutenant to Major in a few months is unheard and would never be down in real life.... Except for the man who saved the Statue of Liberty, held the line in the Cascade Mountains, and finally pushed the Soviets out of Seattle.]]

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* MajorlyAwesome: [[spoiler: The Player Character in the end. Going from 1st Lieutenant to Major Captain in a few months is unheard and would never be down in real life.... Except except for the man who saved the Statue of Liberty, held the line in the Cascade Mountains, and finally pushed the Soviets out of Seattle.]]
22nd Apr '16 12:45:03 AM omegafire17
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* BlatantLies / PropagandaMachine: Before each Soviet mission, a propaganda reel plays showing the Soviet leaders' attempts to portray their war effort as way more successful than it actually is and hide anything from their citizens that might be considered bad. Some of them are quite amusing....
** During the missions that take place in America the Soviet propaganda shows them occupying ''half of the Unites States''!! They also claim the American civilian population is welcoming the invasion as a liberation and are joining the Soviets. In reality they only control the area of Washington State near Seattle and Tacoma, the furthest they get is the Cascade mountain range. And the American civilians are ''extremely'' hostile to the invaders, grabbing any gun or weapon they can get their hands on and fighting back. Romanov even says in the mission briefing that Soviet troops were surprised at the level of resistance and that ''everywhere'' they went they were greeted with gunfire.
** A reel for one of the European missions claims that a NATO raid on a major naval base in Russia was just a "minor skirmish"....that took place in occupied Finland!!
** Possibly subverted by the final mission in which the propaganda broadcaster speaks in what seems to be a more reserved tone and saying that the Soviet premier gave a speech about "sacrifices made, and sacrifices yet to come", implying that the Soviet government is starting to realize that they are not going to get the quick victory they were hoping for....if they even win at all.

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* BlatantLies / PropagandaMachine: Before each Soviet mission, a propaganda reel plays showing the Soviet leaders' attempts to portray their war effort as way more successful than it actually is is, and hide anything from their citizens that might be considered bad. Some of them are quite amusing....
** During the missions that take place in America America, the Soviet propaganda shows them occupying ''half of the Unites States''!! States'' by the third mission, even the nearby sections of ''Canada and Mexico''. They also claim the American civilian population is welcoming the invasion as a liberation and are joining the Soviets. In reality they only control the area of Washington State near Seattle and Tacoma, with the furthest they ever get is being the Cascade mountain range. And the American civilians are ''extremely'' hostile to the invaders, grabbing any gun or weapon they can get their hands on and fighting back. Romanov even says in the mission briefing that Soviet troops were surprised at the level of resistance resistance, and that ''everywhere'' they went they were greeted with gunfire.
gunfire.
** A reel for one of the European missions claims that a NATO raid on a major naval base in Russia was just a "minor skirmish"....skirmish"... that took place in occupied Finland!!
Finland.
** Possibly subverted by the final mission in which the propaganda broadcaster speaks in what seems to be a more reserved tone and tone, saying that the Soviet premier gave a speech about "sacrifices made, and sacrifices yet to come", implying that the Soviet government is starting to realize that they are not going to get the quick victory they were hoping for....for... if they even win at all.
21st Apr '16 2:33:24 PM omegafire17
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* MyCountryRightOrWrong: Subverted in ''Soviet Assault''; Orlovsky doesn't seem to like invading the United States. Played straight in the vanilla campaign with Colonel Sawyer, who will make any sacrifice -- including American lives and infrastructure -- to achieve victory for the United States.

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* MyCountryRightOrWrong: Subverted in ''Soviet Assault''; Orlovsky doesn't seem to like invading the United States. Played straight in In the vanilla campaign with Colonel Sawyer, who will make any sacrifice -- including American campaign, Colenl Sawyer is a mixed example, as while he understands that sometimes sacrifices have to made, he normally would choose civilian lives and infrastructure -- over other things. However, after Cascade Falls is nuked, he becomes noticeably more 'determined' to achieve victory before another one is used, no matter the cost. See MyGreatestFailure below for the United States.more.



* MyGreatestFailure: Arguably what prompts the above sentiment for Colonel Sawyer, and unlike other examples it's not part of the backstory, but part of the plot. He sees having to use the tactical nuclear weapon at Cascade Falls to be his own horrific failure (over the objections of Captain Webb--see the Mission 12 introduction movie) and will do anything--even sacrifice American lives in high-casualty, head-on attacks--to stop another nuke from being used.

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* MyGreatestFailure: Arguably what prompts the above sentiment for Colonel Sawyer, and yet unlike other examples it's not part of the backstory, but part of the plot. He sees having to use the tactical nuclear weapon at Cascade Falls to be his own horrific failure (over the objections of Captain Webb--see the Mission 12 introduction movie) and will do anything--even sacrifice American lives in high-casualty, head-on attacks--to stop another nuke from being used.



* PoirotSpeak: When playing as NATO or USSR, units will often speak a single phrase in their native lauguage before delivering the rest of their statement in English.

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* PoirotSpeak: When playing as NATO or USSR, units will often speak a single phrase in their native lauguage language before delivering the rest of their statement in English.



--> '''Port Authority Officer:''' [''Dodging a gunship's minigun with his car''] 11-99! [note] Officer needs Help. Extreme Emergency. [/note] Repeat, 11-99 emergency! They have gunships! I repeat, gunships! We need help immediately, America is under attack!

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--> '''Port Authority Officer:''' [''Dodging a gunship's minigun with his car''] 11-99! [note] [[note]] Officer needs Help. Extreme Emergency. [/note] [[/note]] Repeat, 11-99 emergency! They have gunships! I repeat, gunships! We need help immediately, America is under attack!
13th Feb '16 3:06:53 PM Str8taim
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** The Americans are fully aware that the Soviet invasion of northwest corner of their country is just a diversion designed to trick them into pulling their forces from the main fight in Europe. So despite Soviet forces occupying one of their major cities and a significant portion of Washington State, they don't pull ''any'' forces from Europe. Instead they make do with whatever they have stateside.
** The Soviets meanwhile actually avert this most of the time. They underestimated NATO when the war breaks out in Europe. They routinely allow their PropagandaMachine to interfere with intelligence reports so that no "bad news" gets to the soldiers or the public. And it's implied that any kind of perceived failure by their generals is punished rather severely, potentially depriving them of military talent. And even then, Lt. Romanov implies that many Soviet generals were a little on the crazy side. They also underestimated just how [[LaResistance hostile the U.S. civilians would be]] in the occupied areas of Washington State However, on the other hand, the Soviets are implied to be perfectly aware of how difficult an invasion of the U.S. mainland would be, which is why they are only doing it as a diversion (although that might have changed a bit when manpower-rich China joins them). It's also probably not a coincidence that the Soviets invaded the state where Fort Teller was located, because this is where the U.S. Star Wars missile defense project was located. Guess what they make their number one target for capture?

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** The Americans are fully aware that the Soviet invasion of the northwest corner of their country is just a diversion designed to trick them into pulling their forces from the main fight in Europe. So despite Soviet forces occupying one of their major cities and a significant portion of Washington State, they don't pull ''any'' forces from Europe. Instead they make do with whatever they have stateside.
** The Soviets meanwhile actually avert this most of the time. They underestimated NATO when the war breaks out in Europe. They routinely allow their PropagandaMachine to interfere with intelligence reports so that no "bad news" gets to the soldiers or the public.public, which only gets them in more trouble since their commanders don't have access to the right information. And it's implied that any kind of perceived failure by their generals is punished rather severely, potentially depriving them of military talent. And even then, Lt. Romanov implies that many Soviet generals were a little on the crazy side.side to begin with. They also underestimated just how [[LaResistance hostile the U.S. civilians would be]] in the occupied areas of Washington State State. However, on the other hand, the Soviets are implied to be perfectly aware of how difficult an invasion of the U.S. mainland would be, which is why they are only doing it as a diversion (although that might have changed a bit when manpower-rich China joins them). It's also probably not a coincidence that the Soviets invaded the state where Fort Teller was located, because this is where the U.S. Star Wars missile defense project was located. Guess what they make their number one target for capture?



*** On the Soviet side, Colonel Orlovsky knows not to trust intel reports from the GRU, KGB, or Moscow in general, as they are often BlatantLies. He knows that executing civilians in occupied territories will enrage, not discourage the populace (and he doesn't like the idea to begin with). He knows that when attacking the enemy on their own turf, you ''must'' understand the concept of HomeFieldAdvantage. He also knows that when an M1 Abrams tank (which was new at the time) is spotted, it must be destroyed. He also realizes that [[spoiler: if the Americans were willing to use a small nuke t=on their own soil to stop the Russians from capturing Fort teller, the they are probably willing to drop a much bigger one and sacrifice Seattle to stop the Chinese from landing]].

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*** On the Soviet side, Colonel Orlovsky knows not to trust intel reports from the GRU, KGB, or Moscow in general, as they are often BlatantLies. He knows that executing civilians in occupied territories will enrage, not discourage the populace (and he doesn't like the idea to begin with). He knows that when attacking the enemy on their own turf, you ''must'' understand the concept of HomeFieldAdvantage. He also knows that when an M1 Abrams tank (which was new at the time) is spotted, it must be destroyed. He also realizes that [[spoiler: if the Americans were willing to use a small nuke t=on on their own soil to stop the Russians from capturing Fort teller, the Teller, then they are probably willing to drop a much bigger one and sacrifice Seattle to stop the Chinese from landing]].
7th Feb '16 9:06:33 PM TheD3rp
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* EvenEvilHasStandards: Orlovsky, the superior officer in the Soviet campaign, orders his men not to kill American civilians. [[spoiler:Malashenko disobeys and attempts to execute some civilians, but is stopped in time by Orlovsky, who then scolds him as a result.]]
4th Feb '16 12:49:53 AM Str8taim
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** The Soviets meanwhile actually avert this most of the time. They underestimated NATO when the war breaks out in Europe. They routinely allow their PropagandaMachine to interfere with intelligence reports so that no "bad news" gets to the soldiers or the public. And it's implied that any kind of perceived failure by their generals is punished rather severely, potentially depriving them of military talent, and even them Lt. Romanov implies that many Soviet generals were a little on the crazy side. They also underestimated just how [[LaResistance hostile the U.S. civilians would be]] in the occupied areas of Washington State However, on the other hand, the Soviets are implied to be perfectly aware of how difficult an invasion of the U.S. mainland would be, which is why they are only doing it as a diversion (although that might have changed a bit when manpower-rich China joins them). It's also probably not a coincidence that the Soviets invaded the state where Fort Teller was located, because this is where the U.S. Star Wars missile defense project was located. Guess what they make their number one target for capture?

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** The Soviets meanwhile actually avert this most of the time. They underestimated NATO when the war breaks out in Europe. They routinely allow their PropagandaMachine to interfere with intelligence reports so that no "bad news" gets to the soldiers or the public. And it's implied that any kind of perceived failure by their generals is punished rather severely, potentially depriving them of military talent, and talent. And even them then, Lt. Romanov implies that many Soviet generals were a little on the crazy side. They also underestimated just how [[LaResistance hostile the U.S. civilians would be]] in the occupied areas of Washington State However, on the other hand, the Soviets are implied to be perfectly aware of how difficult an invasion of the U.S. mainland would be, which is why they are only doing it as a diversion (although that might have changed a bit when manpower-rich China joins them). It's also probably not a coincidence that the Soviets invaded the state where Fort Teller was located, because this is where the U.S. Star Wars missile defense project was located. Guess what they make their number one target for capture?



*** On the American side, Colonel Sawyer always reminds his men to respect their enemies, or they ''will'' wind up dead. While he doesn't want to have to destroy the Statue of Liberty when Soviet commandos threaten New York with chemicals in it's crown, he is willing to do so since civilian lives always come first, but he 'still'' [[TakeAThirdOption puts his men into a full attack to retake the Statue]] so he doesn't have to make the choice. And anytime a gap opens up in the enemy lines, he exploits it for all that it is worth with devastating effect. He also pegs Captain Bannon pretty well at the start as a GloryHound.
*** Captain Bannon himself averts at first this because he is a GloryHound and coward. But after he gets himself together and starts wising up he bcomes this during at the end of the Battle of Cascade Falls when [[spoiler: he realizes that if the Americans all pull back at once the Soviets will realize that they are setting up a trap. So he and his entire company volunteer to stay behind and lure the Soviets into the DeathTrap, even though that means they will die too when the tactical nuclear missile hits.
*** On the Soviet side, Colonel Orlovsky knows not to trust intel reports from the GRU, KGB, or Moscow in general, as they are often BlatantLies. He knows that executing civilians in occupied territories will enrage, not discourage the populace (and he doesn't like the idea to begin with). He knows that when attacking the enemy on their own turf, you ''must'' understand the concept of HomeFieldAdvantage. He also knows that when an M1 Abrams tank (which was new at the time) is spotted, it must be destroyed.

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*** On the American side, Colonel Sawyer always reminds his men to respect their enemies, or they ''will'' wind up dead. While he doesn't want to have to destroy the Statue of Liberty when Soviet commandos threaten New York with chemicals in it's crown, he is willing to do so since civilian lives always come first, but he 'still'' ''still'' [[TakeAThirdOption puts his men into a full attack to retake the Statue]] so he doesn't have to make the choice. And anytime a gap opens up in the enemy lines, he exploits it for all that it is worth with devastating effect. He also pegs Captain Bannon pretty well at the start as a GloryHound.
*** Captain Bannon himself averts at first this because he is a GloryHound and a coward. But after he gets himself together and starts wising up he bcomes becomes this during at the end of the Battle of Cascade Falls when [[spoiler: he realizes that if the Americans all pull back at once the Soviets will realize that they are setting up a trap. So he and his entire company volunteer to stay behind and lure the Soviets into the DeathTrap, even though that means they will die too when the tactical nuclear missile hits.
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*** On the Soviet side, Colonel Orlovsky knows not to trust intel reports from the GRU, KGB, or Moscow in general, as they are often BlatantLies. He knows that executing civilians in occupied territories will enrage, not discourage the populace (and he doesn't like the idea to begin with). He knows that when attacking the enemy on their own turf, you ''must'' understand the concept of HomeFieldAdvantage. He also knows that when an M1 Abrams tank (which was new at the time) is spotted, it must be destroyed. He also realizes that [[spoiler: if the Americans were willing to use a small nuke t=on their own soil to stop the Russians from capturing Fort teller, the they are probably willing to drop a much bigger one and sacrifice Seattle to stop the Chinese from landing]].
4th Feb '16 12:39:59 AM Str8taim
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* DangerouslyGenreSavvy: A few examples.
** The Americans are fully aware that the Soviet invasion of northwest corner of their country is just a diversion designed to trick them into pulling their forces from the main fight in Europe. So despite Soviet forces occupying one of their major cities and a significant portion of Washington State, they don't pull ''any'' forces from Europe. Instead they make do with whatever they have stateside.
** The Soviets meanwhile actually avert this most of the time. They underestimated NATO when the war breaks out in Europe. They routinely allow their PropagandaMachine to interfere with intelligence reports so that no "bad news" gets to the soldiers or the public. And it's implied that any kind of perceived failure by their generals is punished rather severely, potentially depriving them of military talent, and even them Lt. Romanov implies that many Soviet generals were a little on the crazy side. They also underestimated just how [[LaResistance hostile the U.S. civilians would be]] in the occupied areas of Washington State However, on the other hand, the Soviets are implied to be perfectly aware of how difficult an invasion of the U.S. mainland would be, which is why they are only doing it as a diversion (although that might have changed a bit when manpower-rich China joins them). It's also probably not a coincidence that the Soviets invaded the state where Fort Teller was located, because this is where the U.S. Star Wars missile defense project was located. Guess what they make their number one target for capture?
** Some of the individual characters on both sides also display this trope.
*** On the American side, Colonel Sawyer always reminds his men to respect their enemies, or they ''will'' wind up dead. While he doesn't want to have to destroy the Statue of Liberty when Soviet commandos threaten New York with chemicals in it's crown, he is willing to do so since civilian lives always come first, but he 'still'' [[TakeAThirdOption puts his men into a full attack to retake the Statue]] so he doesn't have to make the choice. And anytime a gap opens up in the enemy lines, he exploits it for all that it is worth with devastating effect. He also pegs Captain Bannon pretty well at the start as a GloryHound.
*** Captain Bannon himself averts at first this because he is a GloryHound and coward. But after he gets himself together and starts wising up he bcomes this during at the end of the Battle of Cascade Falls when [[spoiler: he realizes that if the Americans all pull back at once the Soviets will realize that they are setting up a trap. So he and his entire company volunteer to stay behind and lure the Soviets into the DeathTrap, even though that means they will die too when the tactical nuclear missile hits.
*** On the Soviet side, Colonel Orlovsky knows not to trust intel reports from the GRU, KGB, or Moscow in general, as they are often BlatantLies. He knows that executing civilians in occupied territories will enrage, not discourage the populace (and he doesn't like the idea to begin with). He knows that when attacking the enemy on their own turf, you ''must'' understand the concept of HomeFieldAdvantage. He also knows that when an M1 Abrams tank (which was new at the time) is spotted, it must be destroyed.
*** KGB Major Lebedev also shows elements of this, knowing that the war is likely to be a long one, and all but telling Orlovsky to simply ignore any "intelligence reports" from Moscow. All the more impressive because Lebedev is ThePoliticalOfficer.
24th Jan '16 2:03:52 PM Morgenthaler
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* UsefulNotes/BritsWithBattleships: When calling in airstrikes during the missions in Europe, the pilots have British accents.



* UsefulNotes/GaulsWithGrenades: Southern France gets invaded following a successful Soviet naval offensive in the Mediterranean. The First two of the flashback missions that show the fighting in Europe involve working alongside the French to repel this invasion. In fact you get to command them.



* UsefulNotes/NorthKoreansWithNodongs: North Korea is seen in conflict with [[SouthKoreansWithMarines South Korea]] after [[spoiler:China declares war on US and NATO.]]
* UsefulNotes/NorwegiansWithNoAmmo: Well, actually they have TONS of ammo!! And they know how to use it. They show up in the final two flashback missions showing the fight in Europe. They team up with the Americans to launch a raid on the Soviet coastline. And just like the French example above you're able to command them.
** In the Soviet expansion they appear as enemies when the Russians launch their own raid against Norway, completely unaware that NATO is doing the exact same thing to them.



* UsefulNotes/RedsWithRockets: The plot revolves around a Soviet Union that choose to start a war rather than face collapse. They even use rockets.



* UsefulNotes/YanksWithTanks: The whole plot of the game is you as an Army officer fighting off the Soviet invasions of America and Europe. And yes you do have tanks.
23rd Jan '16 4:12:38 PM nombretomado
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The game was well-received both by critics and by consumers, with common praise being the then-impressive graphics, the compelling gameplay, the entertaining team-based multiplayer modes and a strong single-player campaign and narrative. Since the sale of Massive Entertainment to Creator/{{Ubisoft}} by then-publisher {{Activision}} the only thing to come out of the series has been the delayed and poorly-received ''Soviet Assault'', and since Massive has since moved on to other projects, it is probably that ''World in Conflict'' has become an OrphanedSeries.

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The game was well-received both by critics and by consumers, with common praise being the then-impressive graphics, the compelling gameplay, the entertaining team-based multiplayer modes and a strong single-player campaign and narrative. Since the sale of Massive Entertainment to Creator/{{Ubisoft}} by then-publisher {{Activision}} Creator/{{Activision}} the only thing to come out of the series has been the delayed and poorly-received ''Soviet Assault'', and since Massive has since moved on to other projects, it is probably that ''World in Conflict'' has become an OrphanedSeries.
15th Dec '15 4:22:22 PM Str8taim
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** Possibly subverted by the final mission in which the propaganda broadcaster speaks in what seems to be a more reserved tone and saying that the Soviet premier gave a speech about "sacrifices made, and sacrifices yet to come", implying that the Soviet government is starting to realize that they are not going to get the quick victory they were hoping for.

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** Possibly subverted by the final mission in which the propaganda broadcaster speaks in what seems to be a more reserved tone and saying that the Soviet premier gave a speech about "sacrifices made, and sacrifices yet to come", implying that the Soviet government is starting to realize that they are not going to get the quick victory they were hoping for.for....if they even win at all.
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