History VideoGame / TheLegendOfZeldaOracleGames

11th Feb '16 1:02:27 PM DracoKanji
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* ISOStandardUrbanGroceries: In the ending for the linked game, the girl from ''Ages'' is seen with this.
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* ISOStandardUrbanGroceries: In the ending for the linked game, the girl Nayru from ''Ages'' is seen with this.
4th Jan '16 7:39:30 AM aye_amber
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-> ''"I'm sorry I made you worry... But I saw it. A world filled with sorrow and despair... withering away!"''
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-> ''"I'm ->''"I'm sorry I made you worry... But I saw it. A world filled with sorrow and despair... withering away!"''
30th Dec '15 9:56:44 AM DracoKanji
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The official guide says it's a beetle. Also, example indentation.
* BraggingRightsReward: Some of the rings. One is awarded by using a [[NewGamePlus Hero's Secret]]. Another two can be bought from stores that are only available by playing the game on a GBA. Another ring is given as a reward for beating Ganon in a linked game. There's also the rings you get for killing 1000 enemies and breaking 100 signs. The first ring you get would even count as one.
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* BraggingRightsReward: BraggingRightsReward: ** Some of the rings. One is awarded by using a [[NewGamePlus Hero's Secret]]. Another two can be bought from stores that are only available by playing the game on a GBA. Another ring is given as a reward for beating Ganon in a linked game. There's also the rings you get for killing 1000 enemies and breaking 100 signs. The first ring you get would even count as one.

* ChainOfDeals: In both games, the end reward is the next level sword. Yet, in ''Seasons'', [[SequenceBreaking you can get the sword without even starting the chain, as the end result isn't the sword itself, but rather a hint.]] ** Even if it isn't necessary to obtain the sword, it is still highly recommended in ''Seasons'' to complete the chain up until you give the Mushroom to the Witch in Sunken City so that she can then sell magic potions for you.
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* ChainOfDeals: In both games, the end reward is the next level sword. Yet, in ''Seasons'', [[SequenceBreaking you can get the sword without even starting the chain, as the end result isn't the sword itself, but rather a hint.]] ** ]] Even if it isn't necessary to obtain the sword, it is still highly recommended in ''Seasons'' to complete the chain up until you give the Mushroom to the Witch in Sunken City so that she can then sell magic potions for you.

* DualWorldGameplay: ''Oracle of Ages'' has time portals connecting the past and future. A few of them are [[AWizardDidIt conveniently opened at the start of the game]] when Nayru's time powers are used, and the [[AncientArtifact Harp of Ages]] lets Link open them on his own. Once Link [[MagicMusic learns more songs,]] he can travel [[ShoutOut Back To The Future]] from the past, and by the end of the game he can jump back and forth anywhere he wants.
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* DualWorldGameplay: DualWorldGameplay: ** ''Oracle of Ages'' has time portals connecting the past and future. A few of them are [[AWizardDidIt conveniently opened at the start of the game]] when Nayru's time powers are used, and the [[AncientArtifact Harp of Ages]] lets Link open them on his own. Once Link [[MagicMusic learns more songs,]] he can travel [[ShoutOut Back To The Future]] from the past, and by the end of the game he can jump back and forth anywhere he wants.

* DummiedOut: A bit of a meta case; an entire ''game'' was dummied out. The Oracle titles were originally supposed to be a trilogy, with a third title based around color-changing puzzles. Making three linked games quickly became too much to handle for the development team though, so they cut it down to two. Remaining evidence in the game code is limited to just the existence of Farore, and Koume and Kotake claiming Ganon's resurrection was initiated due to three bad emotions when only two plot events occurred to cause them (they worked around it by having [[spoiler:Zelda's kidnapping]] cause the third). This situation is given a ShoutOut in ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTheMinishCap Minish Cap]]'', in which all three Oracle girls appear in cameos, but you can only have houses in Hyrule Town built for two of them to live in. ** Another reason why the third ''Oracle'' game was cancelled was revealed in an interview with ''Electronic Gaming Monthly'' (check the August 2000 issue). The developers realized that with three games, making a continuous story through three games that could be played in any order was a tall task indeed, and they also didn't know what order people would play them in (whether it was 1-2-3, or 1-3-2, or whatever). Using permutations, there would be a grand total of 6 ways to play all three games in sequence.
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* DummiedOut: DummiedOut: ** A bit of a meta case; an entire ''game'' was dummied out. The Oracle titles were originally supposed to be a trilogy, with a third title based around color-changing puzzles. Making three linked games quickly became too much to handle for the development team though, so they cut it down to two. Remaining evidence in the game code is limited to just the existence of Farore, and Koume and Kotake claiming Ganon's resurrection was initiated due to three bad emotions when only two plot events occurred to cause them (they worked around it by having [[spoiler:Zelda's kidnapping]] cause the third). This situation is given a ShoutOut in ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaTheMinishCap Minish Cap]]'', in which all three Oracle girls appear in cameos, but you can only have houses in Hyrule Town built for two of them to live in. ** in. Another reason why the third ''Oracle'' game was cancelled was revealed in an interview with ''Electronic Gaming Monthly'' (check the August 2000 issue). The developers realized that with three games, making a continuous story through three games that could be played in any order was a tall task indeed, and they also didn't know what order people would play them in (whether it was 1-2-3, or 1-3-2, or whatever). Using permutations, there would be a grand total of 6 ways to play all three games in sequence.

** Veran promptly [[CurbstompBattle ruins the moment]], and Link has to save the day.
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** :: Veran promptly [[CurbstompBattle ruins the moment]], and Link has to save the day.

* GuideDangIt: You can actually determine which animal partner you receive by acquiring the flute in one of two ways, or not acquiring it at all. There are no hints at all to this.
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* GuideDangIt: GuideDangIt: ** You can actually determine which animal partner you receive by acquiring the flute in one of two ways, or not acquiring it at all. There are no hints at all to this.

* HotWitch: Veran, the villainess of ''Ages''. Just see [[YMMV/TheLegendOfZeldaOracleGames here]]. She does have a bit of a VainSorceress vibe to her, though. ** [[spoiler: Ironically, her true form is a turtle, which can turn into a bee and a spider...even she remarks she is reluctant to use it, because it is so hideous, and may have something to do with her vanity in retrospect...]]
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* HotWitch: Veran, the villainess of ''Ages''. Just see [[YMMV/TheLegendOfZeldaOracleGames here]]. She does have a bit of a VainSorceress vibe to her, though. ** though.[[spoiler: Ironically, her true form is a turtle, beetle, which can turn into a bee and a spider...even she remarks she is reluctant to use it, because it is so hideous, and may have something to do with her vanity in retrospect...]]

* {{Interquel}}: Set in between ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaALinkToThePast A Link to the Past]]'' and ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaLinksAwakening Link's Awakening]]'', according to ''[[AllThereInTheManual Hyrule Historia]]''. ** There was evidence to support this before the book's release, including Link's very specific hairstyle in the four games, as well as the boat Link departs on after this series' TrueEnding looking strikingly similar to the one that gets struck by lightning in ''Link's Awakening''. Additionally, ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaLinksAwakening Link's Awakening]]'' alluded to Link having many adventures after slaying Ganon before his ship sank, so these games cover two of them. *** Many characters (and sprites) from these games also appear in ''Link's Awakening'', and that makes perfect sense. [[spoiler:The Wind Fish, and Link, are dreaming.]]
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* {{Interquel}}: Set in between ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaALinkToThePast A Link to the Past]]'' and ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaLinksAwakening Link's Awakening]]'', according to ''[[AllThereInTheManual Hyrule Historia]]''. ** Historia]]''. There was evidence to support this before the book's release, including Link's very specific hairstyle in the four games, as well as the boat Link departs on after this series' TrueEnding looking strikingly similar to the one that gets struck by lightning in ''Link's Awakening''. Additionally, ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaLinksAwakening Link's Awakening]]'' alluded to Link having many adventures after slaying Ganon before his ship sank, so these games cover two of them. *** them. Many characters (and sprites) from these games also appear in ''Link's Awakening'', and that makes perfect sense. [[spoiler:The Wind Fish, and Link, are dreaming.]]

** Debatably, Queen Ambi (human) and Cap'n (undead). [[spoiler: This is only revealed during a linked game in Seasons, so it's possible that Cap'n was alive around the time Ambi was alive as well.]] *** A bit of Fridge Logic in that [[spoiler: Ralph is Queen Ambi's descendant.]] Given that Queen Ambi is the only one mentioned in the royal line, sooner or later she'd have either had to marry someone else or she and Cap'n would have had to be reunited. Eventually.
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** Debatably, Queen Ambi (human) and Cap'n (undead). [[spoiler: This is only revealed during a linked game in Seasons, so it's possible that Cap'n was alive around the time Ambi was alive as well.]] *** ]] A bit of Fridge Logic in that [[spoiler: Ralph is Queen Ambi's descendant.]] Given that Queen Ambi is the only one mentioned in the royal line, sooner or later she'd have either had to marry someone else or she and Cap'n would have had to be reunited. Eventually.

* LostForever: Both games contain an "Advance" shop that can only be accessed when playing on a Game Boy Advance. In the Virtual Console release of the games for the 3DS, the shop cannot be accessed and the items inside cannot be obtained. Said items are merely an easily supply to Gasha Seeds and a ring that's a BraggingRightsReward, but players seeking to acquire everything will find themselves a couple rings short simply due to developer oversight.
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* LostForever: LostForever: ** Both games contain an "Advance" shop that can only be accessed when playing on a Game Boy Advance. In the Virtual Console release of the games for the 3DS, the shop cannot be accessed and the items inside cannot be obtained. Said items are merely an easily early supply to of Gasha Seeds and a ring that's a BraggingRightsReward, but players seeking to acquire everything will find themselves a couple rings short simply due to developer oversight.

* {{Nerf}}: The jumping distance when using the Roc's Feather was shortened compared to the jumping distance in ''Link's Awakening''. ** This is however inverted in ''Seasons'' when you pick up Roc's Cape which is a L2 Roc's Feather.
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* {{Nerf}}: The jumping distance when using the Roc's Feather was shortened compared to the jumping distance in ''Link's Awakening''. ** Awakening''. This is however inverted in ''Seasons'' when you pick up Roc's Cape which is a L2 Roc's Feather.

* NiceJobBreakingItHero: In ''Ages'', the only reason Veran is able to possess Naryu is because Link disrupts the barrier separating the two in a ButThouMust moment.
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* NiceJobBreakingItHero: NiceJobBreakingItHero: ** In ''Ages'', the only reason Veran is able to possess Naryu is because Link disrupts the barrier separating the two in a ButThouMust moment.

* OneGameForThePriceOfTwo: Both averted and played straight: the games by themselves are completely different (items, dungeons, bosses and so on), but if you want to complete the storyline you need to play a Linked Game requiring both games. ** And a linked game is a sort of NewGamePlus. You start off with one more heart container than normal and can access more things than a fresh game.
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* OneGameForThePriceOfTwo: Both averted and played straight: the games by themselves are completely different (items, dungeons, bosses and so on), but if you want to complete the storyline you need to play a Linked Game requiring both games. ** games. And a linked game is a sort of NewGamePlus. You start off with one more heart container than normal and can access more things than a fresh game.

* SequelHook: An unlinked game has plenty of hooks leading into the linked game's story.
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* SequelHook: SequelHook: ** An unlinked game has plenty of hooks leading into the linked game's story.

* SimonSaysMiniGame: The Subrosian dance in ''Seasons'' and the Goron Dance in ''Ages''. ** Lampooned by the Subrosians in a linked ''Ages'' game: in the past, several of them are admiring the Goron dance, implying the Subrosian dance is based on theirs. In the present, [[OlderThanTheyThink Rosa thinks the Goron dance is a poor imitation of the Subrosian dance]].
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* SimonSaysMiniGame: The Subrosian dance in ''Seasons'' and the Goron Dance in ''Ages''. ** ''Ages''. Lampooned by the Subrosians in a linked ''Ages'' game: in the past, several of them are admiring the Goron dance, implying the Subrosian dance is based on theirs. In the present, [[OlderThanTheyThink Rosa thinks the Goron dance is a poor imitation of the Subrosian dance]].

* StealthBasedMission: Ambi's Castle in ''Ages''.
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* StealthBasedMission: StealthBasedMission: ** Ambi's Castle in ''Ages''.

** There are several {{Stable Time Loop}}s. For once such instance, the Goron vase Link gets from a Goron in the present is the same vase Link must now go and give to the Goron's ancestor, who says he will pass it down through the family. ** Even with the same event, the game fails to be consistent. The Gorons of Rolling Ridge in the present give Link a Bomb Flower in thanks for defeating the Great Moblin, after which the Maku Tree tells Link that his name has suddenly appeared in legends as a Goron hero who saved their Elder centuries ago. However, before you defeat the Great Moblin, the Gorons mention that long ago a young boy brought Bomb Flowers to Rolling Ridge and they're now the Goron staple crop.
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** There are several {{Stable Time Loop}}s. For once such instance, the Goron vase Link gets from a Goron in the present is the same vase Link must now go and give to the Goron's ancestor, who says he will pass it down through the family. ** family. Even with the same event, the game fails to be consistent. The Gorons of Rolling Ridge in the present give Link a Bomb Flower in thanks for defeating the Great Moblin, after which the Maku Tree tells Link that his name has suddenly appeared in legends as a Goron hero who saved their Elder centuries ago. However, before you defeat the Great Moblin, the Gorons mention that long ago a young boy brought Bomb Flowers to Rolling Ridge and they're now the Goron staple crop.

* UselessSuperpowers: In both games, there are only four areas where you need an animal companion to progress, one for each of them and a fourth that changes layout to fit the companion you've been determined to keep. Otherwise, you can get all items without them. Additionally, ''Seasons'' has the Roc's Cape and ''Ages'' has the Mermaid Suit, allowing Link to jump further and swim in the ocean, respectively. This makes Moosh's hovering obsolete in ''Seasons'' and Dimitri's swimming obsolete in ''Ages'', because any area they can reach in those games, Link will eventually be able to get to on his own. Thus, the only companion with powers worth using is Ricky, who can jump up cliffs to reach areas you'd otherwise have to take the long way to. ** To be fair, Dimitri can eat several monsters in the water like Zoras and fire flowers that otherwise Link would have to dodge and avoid. His speed and ease of control in swimming also makes traversing the map much easier.
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* UselessSuperpowers: UselessSuperpowers: ** In both games, there are only four areas where you need an animal companion to progress, one for each of them and a fourth that changes layout to fit the companion you've been determined to keep. Otherwise, you can get all items without them. Additionally, ''Seasons'' has the Roc's Cape and ''Ages'' has the Mermaid Suit, allowing Link to jump further and swim in the ocean, respectively. This makes Moosh's hovering obsolete in ''Seasons'' and Dimitri's swimming obsolete in ''Ages'', because any area they can reach in those games, Link will eventually be able to get to on his own. Thus, the only companion with powers worth using is Ricky, who can jump up cliffs to reach areas you'd otherwise have to take the long way to. ** to. To be fair, Dimitri can eat several monsters in the water like Zoras and fire flowers that otherwise Link would have to dodge and avoid. His speed and ease of control in swimming also makes traversing the map much easier.

* VideoGameCrueltyPotential: ''Seasons'' lets you throw a pirate's skull around in the desert, and he naturally complains about getting sand in his mouth or water up his nose if you throw him on the ground or in a puddle.
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* VideoGameCrueltyPotential: VideoGameCrueltyPotential: ** ''Seasons'' lets you throw a pirate's skull around in the desert, and he naturally complains about getting sand in his mouth or water up his nose if you throw him on the ground or in a puddle.
20th Dec '15 8:43:26 PM Discar
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Mac Guffin Girl is no longer a trope.
* ISOStandardUrbanGroceries: In the ending for the linked game, the MacGuffinGirl from ''Ages'' is seen with this.
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* ISOStandardUrbanGroceries: In the ending for the linked game, the MacGuffinGirl girl from ''Ages'' is seen with this.
13th Dec '15 7:14:08 AM morenohijazo
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* ImperfectRitual: [[spoiler:The witch sisters Twinrova]] are preparing a ritual that will [[spoiler:resurrect Ganon, by sacrificing Princess Zelda]], but Link interrupts the ritual. [[spoiler:They are forced to sacrifice themselves in order to finish the ritual, which creates a mindless, raging Ganon that Link is able to defeat.]]
11th Dec '15 8:10:13 AM Rytex
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* CallForward: Zelda's character sprite is [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaLinksAwakening Marin]]'s with a crown, because he thought she was Zelda when he first woke up on Koholint Island.
3rd Dec '15 8:59:05 AM spectertv
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* EverythingsBetterWithDinosaurs: A red Dodongo named Dmitri that you can ride to swim through fast currents. He can also eat enemies in one gulp. And you can pick him up and throw him to hurt enemies. Also, he's the hardest friend to get a flute for in ''Seasons'' (in ''Ages'', you just buy the flute at the store).
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* EverythingsBetterWithDinosaurs: A red Dodongo named Dmitri Dimitri that you can ride to swim through fast currents. He can also eat enemies in one gulp. And you can pick him up and throw him to hurt enemies. Also, he's the hardest friend to get a flute for in ''Seasons'' (in ''Ages'', you just buy the flute at the store).
1st Dec '15 5:42:28 AM Sammettik
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Inaccurate example because 1. They also appear in seasons, 2. It was a moblin that gave you rupees, and 3. They says "Sh! Don't tell!" not "It's a secret to everybody".
* MythologyGag: In Oracle of Ages, there's a bush in the past and a bush in the future that you can burn which reveals an Old Man in a cave. One says "Thank you for paying to fix my door." the other one says "[[MemeticMutation It's a secret to everybody.]]" and they take and give you rupees respectively, just like in the original ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaI Legend of Zelda]]''.
9th Nov '15 3:07:15 PM Octorok103
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* ContinuitySnarl: Even ignoring the question of canonical order within the pair, these games have some issues fitting into the official timeline. The ''Hyrule Historia'' places them in the Downfall branch as interquels between ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaALinkToThePast A Link to the Past]]'' and ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaLinksAwakening Link's Awakening]]'', all featuring the same incarnation of Link. However, Zelda seems to know Link only by reputation in a linked game. To make matters worse, ''[[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZeldaALinkBetweenWorlds A Link Between Worlds]]'' seems to offer up yet more contradictions. In the opening animations for the ''Oracle'' games, Link is shown approaching the completed Triforce in Hyrule Castle, yet Ganon somehow came back into possession of the Triforce of Power before ''A Link Between Worlds'' started. The latter game also makes no mention of Ganon getting resurrected successfully since his defeat in ''A Link to the Past''; even discounting [[spoiler:Twinrova's attempt in a linked game]], there still doesn't seem to be a way for Ganon to reclaim his piece while deceased. Add in the inconsistencies with Ganon being dead versus sealed away, and ''Hyrule Historia'' just left more questions than answers about the games' placement in the timeline.
1st Nov '15 4:58:13 AM Jaryl
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Nope, that's not true. You can explore everything of the map in Seasons when you play it first
** If you play ''Ages'' first in a linked game, there's one square on that game's map (an island in the ocean) that you'll never be able to explore. Conversely, if you play ''Seasons'' first, there's a square in the northwest corner of the desert that's unexplorable as well.
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** If you play ''Ages'' first in a linked game, there's one square on that game's map (an island in the ocean) that you'll never be able to explore. Conversely, if you play ''Seasons'' first, there's a square in the northwest corner of the desert that's unexplorable as well.
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