History VideoGame / TalesoftheAbyss

13th Mar '17 10:48:54 AM LovePsychothefirst
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* ThePsychoRangers: Though they may just be [[EvilCounterpart Evil Counterpart]]s, [[spoiler:The God-Generals are all related to a member of the main party, and often use the same skills and abilities. Luke/Asch, Tear/Legretta, Anise/Arietta, Jade/Dist, Natalia/Largo, Guy and Ion/Sync.]]

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* ThePsychoRangers: Though they may just be [[EvilCounterpart Evil Counterpart]]s, [[spoiler:The The God-Generals are all related to a member of the main party, and often use the same skills and abilities. Luke/Asch, Tear/Legretta, Anise/Arietta, Jade/Dist, Natalia/Largo, Guy and Ion/Sync.]]
13th Mar '17 10:41:39 AM LovePsychothefirst
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*** Arietta and Luke also can be compared to each other. [[spoiler: Both have Van as their father figure and have blind trust towards him, not to mention a rather limited view of the world that, when challenged, they lash out at the one challenging it. But while Van continues to make use of Arietta's unique talents, he discards Luke; Luke, meanwhile, manages to somewhat get past his dependency of Van to fight him and develops into a more reasonable person willing to change while Arietta never breaks free.]]

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*** ** Arietta and Luke also can be compared to each other. [[spoiler: Both have Van as their father figure and have blind trust towards him, not to mention a rather limited view of the world that, when challenged, they lash out at the one challenging it. But while Van continues to make use of Arietta's unique talents, he discards Luke; Luke, meanwhile, manages to somewhat get past his dependency of Van to fight him and develops into a more reasonable person willing to change while Arietta never breaks free.]]
13th Mar '17 10:35:05 AM LovePsychothefirst
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** [[spoiler:Guy and Sync aren't counterparts, although the game spends a lot of time making one think that is going to be the case. He singles out Guy for his curse-slot, and Guy is the first one to see the face under the mask; his shocked reaction makes one think Guy knows him. Both turn out to be red herrings. Rather, Sync has more in line with Ion and ''Anise''. His Akashic Torment attack is the same as Ion's Daathic Fonic Arte (seen in Luke's Radiant Howl extension), and a number of his hand-to-hand artes mirror Anise's moves, including Stone Dragon Ascent. Meanwhile, his role in-story has him mirror Ion and antagonize Anise.]]
*** [[spoiler:Meanwhile, we find out that the actual counterpart to Guy is Van himself. Both are survivors of Hod who swore revenge, but Guy, having let go of his hatred, represents a rejection of everything Van wants to achieve.]]

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** [[spoiler:Guy Guy and Sync aren't counterparts, although the game spends a lot of time making one think that is going to be the case. [[spoiler: He singles out Guy for his curse-slot, and Guy is the first one to see the face under the mask; his shocked reaction makes one think Guy knows him. Both turn out to be red herrings. Rather, Sync has more in line with Ion and ''Anise''. His Akashic Torment attack is the same as Ion's Daathic Fonic Arte (seen in Luke's Radiant Howl extension), and a number of his hand-to-hand artes mirror Anise's moves, including Stone Dragon Ascent. Meanwhile, his role in-story has him mirror Ion and antagonize Anise.]]
*** [[spoiler:Meanwhile, Meanwhile, we find out that the actual counterpart to Guy is [[spoiler: Van himself. Both are survivors of Hod who swore revenge, but Guy, having let go of his hatred, represents a rejection of everything Van wants to achieve.]]
*** Arietta and Luke also can be compared to each other. [[spoiler: Both have Van as their father figure and have blind trust towards him, not to mention a rather limited view of the world that, when challenged, they lash out at the one challenging it. But while Van continues to make use of Arietta's unique talents, he discards Luke; Luke, meanwhile, manages to somewhat get past his dependency of Van to fight him and develops into a more reasonable person willing to change while Arietta never breaks free.
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15th Feb '17 4:28:16 AM Ramona122003
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* [[spoiler: CrapsaccharineWorld: Auldrant seriously is one hell of a world as you progress throughout Tales of the Abyss. After the peace of Engeve, you come to learn that an entire nation of people were literally sacrificed to appease an ancient prophecy, the world itself hangs on nothing more than energy pillars to escape the hellish sea of poison and mud that lies below its true surface, you experience the first hand hardships and horrors of war, both gameplay wise AND even storywise, and amongst all of the political and social hardships and issues that plague the world, EVERYONE on this world STILL has to deal with the bloodthirsty monsters and thugs that lurk outside every hamlet. Thankfully, the game helps uplift things to show that it can be a WorldHalfFull.]]

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* [[spoiler: CrapsaccharineWorld: [[spoiler: Auldrant seriously is one hell of a world as you progress throughout Tales of the Abyss. After the peace of Engeve, you come to learn that an entire nation of people were literally sacrificed to appease an ancient prophecy, the world itself hangs on nothing more than energy pillars to escape the hellish sea of poison and mud that lies below its true surface, you experience the first hand hardships and horrors of war, both gameplay wise AND even storywise, and amongst all of the political and social hardships and issues that plague the world, EVERYONE on this world STILL has to deal with the bloodthirsty monsters and thugs that lurk outside every hamlet. Thankfully, the game helps uplift things to show that it can be a WorldHalfFull.]]
14th Feb '17 8:47:40 PM Ramona122003
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* ArtificialBrilliance: The AI can actually use items themselves. Natalia is often seen as wasteful, but her AI ''does'' seem to know never to touch the expensive or rare items. This veers a bit into ArtificialStupdity in that the AI will ask to use an Apple Gel when a Lemon Gel would be better,

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* ArtificialBrilliance: The AI can actually use items themselves. Natalia is often seen as wasteful, but her AI ''does'' seem to know never to touch the expensive or rare items. This veers a bit into ArtificialStupdity ArtificialStupidity in that the AI will ask to use an Apple Gel when a Lemon Gel would be better,
17th Jan '17 11:33:53 AM LovePsychothefirst
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* ManChild: Luke, because of his complete amnesia (''complete''--he had to relearn how to ''eat'') seven years ago. He's basically seven years old. Can be seen as a {{Deconstruction}}, as his childish acts eventually piss everybody off before he gets his CharacterDevelopment.

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* ManChild: Luke, because of his complete amnesia (''complete''--he had to relearn how to ''eat'') seven years ago. He's basically seven years old. Can be seen as a {{Deconstruction}}, as his childish acts eventually piss everybody off before he gets his CharacterDevelopment. [[spoiler: This is also [[JustifiedTrope Justified]] as he actually ''is'' seven as a replica and his amnesia is just him starting as a BlankSlate.]]
17th Jan '17 11:20:37 AM LovePsychothefirst
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* HorribleJudgeOfCharacter: Just think Akzeriuth. [[spoiler: Luke had Van's betrayal coming from a mile away.]]

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* HorribleJudgeOfCharacter: Just think Akzeriuth. [[spoiler: Luke had Van's betrayal coming from a mile away.]] [[JustifiedTrope Justified]] when one takes into account [[spoiler: Luke is just seven and looks at Van as his father figure.]]
17th Jan '17 10:46:00 AM LovePsychothefirst
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* BlamingTheRailroadedPlayerCharacter: [[spoiler:Luke spends the first portion of the game being a whiny, self-absorbed burden on the party (even if he does hold his own in battle). When his actions result in what amounts to an entire town being massacred, he's uniformly blamed by his party members, and ''continues'' to insist that it wasn't his fault (which is ''technically'' true as he was the "gun" in this situation). To be fair, it kind of is his fault. But to be fairer, [[FailureIsTheOnlyOption there's no other way things could have possibly gone for the player]] or, for that matter, for Luke as no one gave him a good enough reason to avoid it (see BrokeAesop for details).]]

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* BlamingTheRailroadedPlayerCharacter: [[spoiler:Luke spends the first portion of the game being a whiny, self-absorbed burden on the party (even if he does hold his own in battle). When his actions result in what amounts to an entire town being massacred, he's uniformly blamed by his party members, and ''continues'' to insist that it wasn't his fault (which is ''technically'' true as he was the "gun" in this situation). To be fair, it kind of is his fault. But to be fairer, [[FailureIsTheOnlyOption there's no other way things could have possibly gone for the player]] or, for that matter, for Luke as no one gave him a good enough reason to avoid it (see BrokeAesop BrokenAesop for details).]]
17th Jan '17 10:42:07 AM LovePsychothefirst
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** The wolf matriarch you kill in the beginning of the game. Only because of the required cute creature in your party burning part of the forest down do you even have a reason for killing her.

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** The wolf matriarch Liger Queen you kill in the beginning of the game. Only because of the required cute creature in your party burning part of the forest down do you even have a reason for killing her. [[spoiler: She's also Arietta's "mother" YouBastard.]]
17th Jan '17 10:39:56 AM LovePsychothefirst
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* BlamingTheRailroadedPlayerCharacter: [[spoiler:Luke spends a good portion of the game being a whiny, self-absorbed burden on the party (even if he does hold his own in battle). When his actions result in what amounts to an entire town being massacred, he's uniformly blamed by his party members, and ''continues'' to insist that it wasn't his fault. To be fair, it kind of is his fault. But to be fairer, [[FailureIsTheOnlyOption there's no other way things could have possibly gone for the player]].]]

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* BlamingTheRailroadedPlayerCharacter: [[spoiler:Luke spends a good the first portion of the game being a whiny, self-absorbed burden on the party (even if he does hold his own in battle). When his actions result in what amounts to an entire town being massacred, he's uniformly blamed by his party members, and ''continues'' to insist that it wasn't his fault.fault (which is ''technically'' true as he was the "gun" in this situation). To be fair, it kind of is his fault. But to be fairer, [[FailureIsTheOnlyOption there's no other way things could have possibly gone for the player]].player]] or, for that matter, for Luke as no one gave him a good enough reason to avoid it (see BrokeAesop for details).]]
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