History VideoGame / TalesofTheAbyss

25th Apr '17 11:51:50 AM LovePsychothefirst
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* CainAndAbel: Tear and Van, Luke and Asch.

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* CainAndAbel: Tear and Van, Luke and Asch.Van.
25th Apr '17 11:30:29 AM LovePsychothefirst
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* BettyAndVeronica: [[spoiler: Natalia ultimately sees Luke and Asch as this in regards to her (main) choices in suitors. The NiceGuy AllLovingHero that Luke becomes post ImportantHaircut puts him as the Betty, while JerkWithAHeartOfGold GoodIsNotNice Asch falls under Veronica. In this case, both are ChildhoodFriends, with Asch having a ChildhoodMarriagePromise with Natalia as a bonus. The GainaxEnding leaves which one she would choose in the end unknown.]]
24th Apr '17 6:54:14 PM nombretomado
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The eighth mothership title in Namco's ''TalesSeries'', and its tenth anniversary title. It was released in Japan for the UsefulNotes/PlayStation2 in 2005, and in North America ([[NoExportForYou but not Europe]]) in 2006.

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The eighth mothership title in Namco's ''TalesSeries'', ''VideoGame/TalesSeries'', and its tenth anniversary title. It was released in Japan for the UsefulNotes/PlayStation2 in 2005, and in North America ([[NoExportForYou but not Europe]]) in 2006.



In true TalesSeries fashion, it doesn't take long for the first [[GutPunch game-changing plot twist]] to hit.

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In true TalesSeries VideoGame/TalesSeries fashion, it doesn't take long for the first [[GutPunch game-changing plot twist]] to hit.



* ShoutOut: Typical for a TalesSeries game. Noteworthy examples are three of Anise's dolls being modeled after [[VideoGame/TalesOfPhantasia Cless]], [[VideoGame/TalesOfDestiny Philia]], and [[VideoGame/TalesOfSymphonia Presea]]. Jade's belt buckle is PacMan. Nam Cobanda Island is full of {{Shout Out}}s to various Namco games. There is one replica in Daath who comments that [[spoiler:"Zelos died,"]] which is a possible way that VideoGame/TalesOfSymphonia can end.
** Every single one of the Anise-only accessories that change Tokunaga's appearance are a ShoutOut to something. Most are from the TalesSeries, but some are from other series, such as [[VideoGame/{{Xenosaga}} KOS-MOS]] and [[VideoGame/{{Tekken}} Heihachi]].

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* ShoutOut: Typical for a TalesSeries VideoGame/TalesSeries game. Noteworthy examples are three of Anise's dolls being modeled after [[VideoGame/TalesOfPhantasia Cless]], [[VideoGame/TalesOfDestiny Philia]], and [[VideoGame/TalesOfSymphonia Presea]]. Jade's belt buckle is PacMan. Nam Cobanda Island is full of {{Shout Out}}s to various Namco games. There is one replica in Daath who comments that [[spoiler:"Zelos died,"]] which is a possible way that VideoGame/TalesOfSymphonia can end.
** Every single one of the Anise-only accessories that change Tokunaga's appearance are a ShoutOut to something. Most are from the TalesSeries, VideoGame/TalesSeries, but some are from other series, such as [[VideoGame/{{Xenosaga}} KOS-MOS]] and [[VideoGame/{{Tekken}} Heihachi]].
23rd Apr '17 10:55:19 AM nombretomado
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** In one of Jade's flashbacks, Gelda Nebilim sure looked an awful lot like [[VideoGame/TalesOfSymphonia Raine Sage.]] Nebilim even became a teacher just like Raine was. It doesn't help that Gelda Nebilim's [[TaraPlatt Voice Actress]] in the U.S. version is the same one who played Raine in [[TalesOfTheWorld Tales of the World: Radiant Mythology]] and [[VideoGame/TalesOfSymphoniaDawnOfTheNewWorld Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World]]. In the [=OVAs=], at least, they have the same Japanese [=VA=].

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** In one of Jade's flashbacks, Gelda Nebilim sure looked an awful lot like [[VideoGame/TalesOfSymphonia Raine Sage.]] Nebilim even became a teacher just like Raine was. It doesn't help that Gelda Nebilim's [[TaraPlatt Voice Actress]] in the U.S. version is the same one who played Raine in [[TalesOfTheWorld [[VideoGame/TalesOfTheWorld Tales of the World: Radiant Mythology]] and [[VideoGame/TalesOfSymphoniaDawnOfTheNewWorld Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World]]. In the [=OVAs=], at least, they have the same Japanese [=VA=].



* RecursiveCanon: Elion, in Nam Cobanda Isle, makes video games. Specifically, the ''Franchise/TalesOf'' series.

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* RecursiveCanon: Elion, in Nam Cobanda Isle, makes video games. Specifically, the ''Franchise/TalesOf'' ''VideoGame/TalesOf'' series.
22nd Apr '17 5:42:21 PM nombretomado
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The game has an AnimatedAdaptation produced by {{Sunrise}}. The first episode aired on October 3, 2008 on TOKYO MX; in addition, another channel had an hour long special the following day, showing both the first and second episode. The anime adaptation was released on October 11, 2011 by Bandai Entertainment in North America, albeit sub-only, even though the video game has an English dub.

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The game has an AnimatedAdaptation produced by {{Sunrise}}.Creator/{{Sunrise}}. The first episode aired on October 3, 2008 on TOKYO MX; in addition, another channel had an hour long special the following day, showing both the first and second episode. The anime adaptation was released on October 11, 2011 by Bandai Entertainment in North America, albeit sub-only, even though the video game has an English dub.
16th Apr '17 7:46:10 AM esq263
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* InnocentInnuendo: Anise's suggestion to Florian that they sleep together [[note]] Anise is thirteen years old while Florian is chronologically two years old, has the body of a fourteen-year-old, and the mentality of a toddler [[/note]]. Luke is understandably [[{{Squick}} squicked]] by this until Anise clarifies that she means a sleepover involving the whole group.

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* InnocentInnuendo: Anise's suggestion to Florian that they sleep together [[note]] Anise is thirteen years old while Florian is chronologically two years old, has the body of a fourteen-year-old, he is chronologically only two years old and has the mentality of a toddler [[/note]]. Luke is understandably [[{{Squick}} squicked]] by this until Anise clarifies that she means a sleepover involving the whole group.
15th Apr '17 2:51:42 PM LovePsychothefirst
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* WhamLine: Luke delivers one early on that not only has the rest of the party change how they treat him, but serve as {{Foreshadowing}} TheReveal.

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* WhamLine: Luke delivers one early on that not only has the rest of the party Tear subtly change how they treat she treats him, but serve as {{Foreshadowing}} TheReveal.



--> Luke: "I was busy learning other things...like my parents' faces."

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--> Luke: "I was busy learning other things...like '''like my parents' faces.faces'''."
15th Apr '17 10:18:27 AM LovePsychothefirst
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* WhamLine: Luke delivers one early on that not only has the rest of the party change how they treat him, but serve as {{Foreshadowing}} TheReveal.
--> Tear: "How do you not know about the Order of Lorelei?"
--> Luke: "I was busy learning other things...like my parents' faces."
* WhamShot: The infamous scene where Luke and Asch first clash in the rain [[spoiler: revealing they have the ''exact same'' features and look completely identical minus minor cosmetic details.]] Though it's not revealed until later just what it means, it's at that point that both in universe and out that people realize there is ''a lot'' more going on and nothing is exactly what it seems in regards to those two.
14th Apr '17 1:03:11 PM Gosicrystal
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* GameplayAndStoryIntegration: Early in the game in a scene that's LostForever, someone will tell you that fonic artes are rather difficult to use and learn - and there are a surprisingly few amount of enemies that can use fonic artes. Even when you come to the ones using higher level fonic artes, they specialize in one element.

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* GameplayAndStoryIntegration: Early in the game in a scene that's LostForever, {{permanently missable|Content}}, someone will tell you that fonic artes are rather difficult to use and learn - and there are a surprisingly few amount of enemies that can use fonic artes. Even when you come to the ones using higher level fonic artes, they specialize in one element.



* GameplayAndStorySegregation: Many of Tear's fonic hymns are optional to learn, and some can even be LostForever, even though the story states that she has to know all of them by the end.
* GenderBlenderName: Jade. Peony. Saphir...
** [[spoiler:Also Lorelei, who is given a rather deep and masculine voice]].

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* GameplayAndStorySegregation: Many of Tear's fonic hymns are optional to learn, and some can are even be LostForever, {{permanently missable|Content}}, even though the story states that she has to know all of them by the end.
* GenderBlenderName: Jade. Peony. Saphir...
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Saphir... [[spoiler:Also Lorelei, who is given a rather deep and masculine voice]].



* GuideDangIt: Many of the sidequests are LostForever if you're not too careful, annoyingly some are important in understaniding some plot points in the game.

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* GuideDangIt: Many of the sidequests are LostForever {{permanently missable|Content}} if you're not too careful, annoyingly some are important in understaniding some plot points in the game.
7th Apr '17 5:13:08 PM Gosicrystal
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* DarkMagicalGirl: Arietta.

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* DarkMagicalGirl: DarkMagicalGirl:
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Arietta.



%%** Jade is quite possibly the king of this trope.

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%%** Jade is quite possibly the king of this trope.Jade.



* DeathSeeker: Played straight by Asch, subverted by Luke. Interestingly, there are snake-like enemy mooks that are actually called "Deathseekers".
* {{Deconstruction}}: Although it's not as big as the game's DeconstructorFleet attitude towards destiny tropes, the game still takes a stab at the MartyStu cliche through Jade by showing just how dangerous a Marty Stu-type character would be. When it comes to fonic artes and science, nobody can match Jade. Period. He created the first replica at an improbable age (nine!) and mastered artes adults found difficult without any hassle. However, while brilliant, he's also a complete sociopath with no emotional attachment to the world. Jade reflects on this later in the game when he realises that, despite having the most incredible mind in the world, he considers his lack of consideration nothing short of inhuman and comes to believe that his intellect has been nothing but a blight on the planet. This culminates in him expressing a wish to [[spoiler:go back in time and kill himself as an infant]].
** The game also has an interesting take on the KidHero, seeing as [[spoiler: Luke is actually chronologically 7 years old despite looking like a young adult.]]

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* DeathSeeker: Played straight by Asch, subverted by Luke. Interestingly, there are snake-like enemy mooks that are actually called "Deathseekers".
%%** Played straight by Asch.
%%** Subverted by Luke.
* {{Deconstruction}}: {{Deconstruction}}:
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Although it's not as big as the game's DeconstructorFleet attitude towards destiny tropes, the game still takes a stab at the MartyStu cliche through Jade by showing just how dangerous a Marty Stu-type character would be. When it comes to fonic artes and science, nobody can match Jade. Period. He created the first replica at an improbable age (nine!) and mastered artes adults found difficult without any hassle. However, while brilliant, he's also a complete sociopath with no emotional attachment to the world. Jade reflects on this later in the game when he realises that, despite having the most incredible mind in the world, he considers his lack of consideration nothing short of inhuman and comes to believe that his intellect has been nothing but a blight on the planet. This culminates in him expressing a wish to [[spoiler:go back in time and kill himself as an infant]].
** The game also has an interesting take on the KidHero, seeing as [[spoiler: Luke [[spoiler:Luke is actually chronologically 7 years old despite looking like a young adult.]]adult]].



* TheDevTeamThinksOfEverything: Usually, you want to have Luke and Tear in your party when you fight [[spoiler: Van]] for the last time, and to listen to what they have to say to [[spoiler: him]], but by changing around your team, and getting rid of Luke/Tear, or both. The lines spoken are different, and the conversation will be whoever the current party leader is, and [[spoiler: Van]], while the scene shows [[spoiler:The party leader running in.]] This was later returned in ''VideoGame/TalesOfVesperia''.

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* TheDevTeamThinksOfEverything: TheDevTeamThinksOfEverything:
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Usually, you want to have Luke and Tear in your party when you fight [[spoiler: Van]] [[spoiler:Van]] for the last time, and to listen to what they have to say to [[spoiler: him]], [[spoiler:him]], but by changing around your team, and getting rid of Luke/Tear, or both. The lines spoken are different, and the conversation will be whoever the current party leader is, and [[spoiler: Van]], [[spoiler:Van]], while the scene shows [[spoiler:The [[spoiler:the party leader running in.]] in]]. This was later returned in ''VideoGame/TalesOfVesperia''.
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