History VideoGame / TalesofDestiny

23rd Apr '17 6:42:04 PM nombretomado
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''Tales Of Destiny'' is the second entry in the ''Franchise/TalesSeries'' of {{Eastern RPG}}s. First released in 1997, it received a direct sequel in 2002 (''VideoGame/TalesOfDestiny2''), a [[VideoGameRemake remake]] in 2006 and an UpdatedRerelease of the remake in 2007.

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''Tales Of Destiny'' is the second entry in the ''Franchise/TalesSeries'' ''VideoGame/TalesSeries'' of {{Eastern RPG}}s. First released in 1997, it received a direct sequel in 2002 (''VideoGame/TalesOfDestiny2''), a [[VideoGameRemake remake]] in 2006 and an UpdatedRerelease of the remake in 2007.



* HotBlooded: Stahn, King of [[TalesSeries Tales]] Hot Blood. It helps that he's voiced by Tomokazu "[[Anime/MobileFighterGGundam Domon Kasshu]]" Seki.

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* HotBlooded: Stahn, King of [[TalesSeries [[VideoGame/TalesSeries Tales]] Hot Blood. It helps that he's voiced by Tomokazu "[[Anime/MobileFighterGGundam Domon Kasshu]]" Seki.



* MotiveDecay: BigBad [[spoiler:Miktran]]. In the original game, he was a WellIntentionedExtremist (like most ''TalesSeries'' villains are) in that [[spoiler:he wanted to revive his people and genuinely believed that the Aetherians were in the right, as the Erthers started the War Between Heaven and Earth ([[GreyAndGrayMorality for not wanting to be enslaved]])]]. In the remake, this motive has been replaced by simple megalomania.

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* MotiveDecay: BigBad [[spoiler:Miktran]]. In the original game, he was a WellIntentionedExtremist (like most ''TalesSeries'' ''VideoGame/TalesSeries'' villains are) in that [[spoiler:he wanted to revive his people and genuinely believed that the Aetherians were in the right, as the Erthers started the War Between Heaven and Earth ([[GreyAndGrayMorality for not wanting to be enslaved]])]]. In the remake, this motive has been replaced by simple megalomania.
28th Mar '17 9:21:37 AM Gosicrystal
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28th Mar '17 9:20:03 AM Gosicrystal
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* AmnesiacDissonance: Mary.

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* %%* AmnesiacDissonance: Mary.



* AnIcePerson: Rutee/Atwight.



* BadassFamily: If Stahn, Lilith [[spoiler:and Lymle/Rimul]], [[spoiler: Rutee]], and Kyle are any indication, the Aileron clan.
** Same with the Gilchrists, what with Hugo, Leon, [[spoiler: Rutee, and Kyle.]]
* BadassNormal: The party members who are not Swordian-users are like this. They're ''far'' from slackers. There exist videos of the non-Swordian-users ''soloing'' the final boss.

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* BadassFamily: BadassFamily:
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If Stahn, Lilith [[spoiler:and Lymle/Rimul]], [[spoiler: Rutee]], [[spoiler:Rutee]], and Kyle are any indication, the Aileron clan.
** Same with the The Gilchrists, what with Hugo, Leon, [[spoiler: Rutee, [[spoiler:Rutee, and Kyle.]]
* BadassNormal: BadassNormal:
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The party members who are not Swordian-users are like this. They're ''far'' from slackers. There exist videos of the non-Swordian-users ''soloing'' the final boss.



* BlowYouAway: Garr/Igtenos.



* ButNowIMustGo: [[spoiler:The Swordians.]]

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* %%* ButNowIMustGo: [[spoiler:The Swordians.]]



* CastingAShadow: Leon/Chaltier, [[spoiler:Miktran]]/Berselius.



* CoDragons: [[spoiler: Hugo's four Oberon Executives are all his dragons. Leon in the original is also a lesser dragon.]]

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* CoDragons: [[spoiler: Hugo's [[spoiler:Hugo's four Oberon Executives are all his dragons. Leon in the original is also a lesser dragon.]]



* DarkIsNotEvil: Berselius's [[spoiler: original]] owner, Karell Berselius, was a [[NiceGuy very kind person.]]

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* DarkIsNotEvil: DarkIsNotEvil:
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Berselius's [[spoiler: original]] [[spoiler:original]] owner, Karell Berselius, was a [[NiceGuy very kind person.]]



* DiscOneFinalBoss: [[spoiler: Lydon.]]
* DiscOneFinalDungeon: [[spoiler: Heidelberg Castle.]]
* DoomsdayDevice: Belcrant.
* DualWielding: Leon in the remake, and ever since then. (In the original game, he wielded a sword and shield.)
** {{Retcon}}: Also becomes this in the remake because [[spoiler: In the sequel, Judas mentions that he only learned dual wielding after Elraine brought him back.]]

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* %%* DiscOneFinalBoss: [[spoiler: Lydon.[[spoiler:Lydon.]]
* %%* DiscOneFinalDungeon: [[spoiler: Heidelberg [[spoiler:Heidelberg Castle.]]
* DishingOutDirt: Leon/Chaltier.
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DoomsdayDevice: Belcrant.
* DualWielding: Leon in the remake, and ever since then. (In the original game, he wielded a sword and shield.)
** {{Retcon}}: Also becomes this in the remake because [[spoiler: In the sequel, Judas mentions that he only learned dual wielding after Elraine brought him back.]]
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* TheDragon: [[spoiler:Hugo]] to an extent. [[spoiler:Leon]] is essentially [[spoiler:Hugo]]'s Dragon.
* DyingAsYourself: [[spoiler:Hugo]].

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* TheDragon: %%* TheDragon:
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[[spoiler:Hugo]] to an extent. extent.
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[[spoiler:Leon]] is essentially [[spoiler:Hugo]]'s Dragon.
* %%* DyingAsYourself: [[spoiler:Hugo]].



* ElementalPowers (The Swordians)
** PlayingWithFire (Stahn/Dymlos)
** MakingASplash / AnIcePerson (Rutee/Atwight)
** DishingOutDirt / DarkIsEdgy (Leon/Chaltier)
** ShockAndAwe / FourElementEnsemble / HolyHandGrenade (Philia/Clemente)
** BlowYouAway (Garr/Igtenos)
** DarkIsEdgy / HolyHandGrenade / FourElementEnsemble ([[spoiler:Miktran]]/Berselius)
* EmpathicWeapon: Again, the Swordians.

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* ElementalPowers (The Swordians)
** PlayingWithFire (Stahn/Dymlos)
** MakingASplash / AnIcePerson (Rutee/Atwight)
** DishingOutDirt / DarkIsEdgy (Leon/Chaltier)
** ShockAndAwe / FourElementEnsemble / HolyHandGrenade (Philia/Clemente)
** BlowYouAway (Garr/Igtenos)
** DarkIsEdgy / HolyHandGrenade / FourElementEnsemble ([[spoiler:Miktran]]/Berselius)
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ElementalPowers: The Swordians: [[PlayingWithFire Stahn/Dymlos]], [[MakingASplash Rutee]]/[[AnIcePerson Atwight]], [[DishingOutDirt Leon]]/[[CastingAShadow Chaltier]], [[ShockAndAwe Philia]]/[[HolyHandGrenade Clemente]], [[BlowYouAway Garr/Igtenos]], [[CastingAShadow [[spoiler:Miktran]]/[[HolyHandGrenade Berselius]].
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EmpathicWeapon: Again, the The Swordians.



* GreenRocks: Lens.
* ForgottenSuperweapon: Belcrant.
* FunnyBackgroundEvent: Mary and her Softee Kreems in Neuestadt.
** [[CloudCuckooLander Mary]], period.

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* %%* GreenRocks: Lens.
* %%* ForgottenSuperweapon: Belcrant.
* %%* FunnyBackgroundEvent: Mary and her Softee Kreems in Neuestadt.
** [[CloudCuckooLander Mary]], period.
Neuestadt.



* HolyHandGrenade: Clemente, [[spoiler:Miktran]]/Berselius.



** '''''"SATSUGEKI BUKOKEN!! ORYARYARYARYARYARYARYARYA!!!!"'''''
* HopelessBossFight: Leon, and [[spoiler:Hugo]] in Leon's Side.)

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** '''''"SATSUGEKI BUKOKEN!! ORYARYARYARYARYARYARYARYA!!!!"'''''
* HopelessBossFight: Leon, and [[spoiler:Hugo]] in Leon's Side.)HopelessBossFight:



** Also subverted with [[spoiler: the rest of the party in Leon's story in the remake.]] With determination and lots of items you can beat all of them, but it [[spoiler: [[CutsceneIncompetence changes nothing about how the story ends.]]]]

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** Also subverted **Subverted with [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the rest of the party in Leon's story in the remake.]] With determination and lots of items you can beat all of them, but it [[spoiler: [[CutsceneIncompetence [[spoiler:[[CutsceneIncompetence changes nothing about how the story ends.]]]]]]]]
%%** [[spoiler:Hugo]] in Leon's Side.



* {{Leitmotif}} - Leon's [[CrowningMusicOfAwesome Irony of Fate]].
* LostForever: This game started the Tales tradition of easily-missable side quests.
** In a character example, [[spoiler:Mary will never rejoin the party if Dahlis survives]].

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* {{Leitmotif}} - {{Leitmotif}}: Leon's [[CrowningMusicOfAwesome Irony of Fate]].
* LostForever: This game started the Tales tradition of easily-missable side quests.
** In a character example, [[spoiler:Mary will never rejoin the party if Dahlis survives]].
Fate.



* MakingASplash: Rutee/Atwight.



%%* MightyGlacier: Kongman/Khang

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%%* MightyGlacier: Kongman/KhangKongman/Khang.



* OfficialCouple - Stahn and Rutee, as seen in Tales of Destiny 2.
* OnlyInItForTheMoney: Rutee, Rutee, Rutee. [[spoiler:At first]].

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* OfficialCouple - OfficialCouple: Stahn and Rutee, as seen in Tales of Destiny 2.
* %%* OnlyInItForTheMoney: Rutee, Rutee, Rutee. [[spoiler:At first]].



* OvershadowedByAwesome: Every non Swordian-user tends to be forgotten because the Swordian Masters are just too broken (especially [[MemeticBadass Leon]]). The fact that you can use Narikiri Dolls to clone them (four-Leon party]) doesn't help.
** However; it's still notable that in the remake, the non-Swordian users actually ''can'' be pretty good. Especially [[SpoonyBard Johnny]] and Lilith.
* PetTheDog: Hugo has his moments. Early on when he has the heroes under his control (not only does he have shock [[strike:collars]] tiaras on them, but he has ''legal custody'' because they've been arrested for trespassing) and forces them to search for the Eye Of Atamoni, he still agrees to Rutee's request for a monetary reward. When Leon complains that he doesn't ''need'' to do that, Hugo replies that a reward would motivate the heroes to do a better job. [[spoiler:This scene takes on a whole new meaning when you find out later that Hugo is being {{Brainwashed}} by Miktran, is desperately trying to resist said brainwashing, and recognizes Rutee as the daughter he sent to safety before Miktran took control of him]].
** KickTheDog: However, he indulges in this to an extreme degree in Leon's side of the remake, taking every opportunity to kick his son while he's down even when such levels of cruelty to control him probably weren't necessary.

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* OvershadowedByAwesome: Every non Swordian-user tends to be forgotten because the Swordian Masters are just too broken (especially [[MemeticBadass Leon]]). Leon). The fact that you can use Narikiri Dolls to clone them (four-Leon party]) doesn't help.
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help. However; it's still notable that in the remake, the non-Swordian users actually ''can'' be pretty good. Especially [[SpoonyBard Johnny]] and Lilith.
* PermanentlyMissableContent:
** This game started the Tales tradition of easily-missable side quests.
** In a character example, [[spoiler:Mary will never rejoin the party if Dahlis survives]].
* PetTheDog: Hugo has his moments. Early on when he has the heroes under his control (not only does he have shock [[strike:collars]] tiaras on them, but he has ''legal custody'' because they've been arrested for trespassing) and forces them to search for the Eye Of Atamoni, he still agrees to Rutee's request for a monetary reward. When Leon complains that he doesn't ''need'' to do that, Hugo replies that a reward would motivate the heroes to do a better job. [[spoiler:This scene takes on a whole new meaning when you find out later that Hugo is being {{Brainwashed}} by Miktran, is desperately trying to resist said brainwashing, and recognizes Rutee as the daughter he sent to safety before Miktran took control of him]].
** KickTheDog:
him]]. [[KickTheDog However, he indulges in this to an extreme degree in Leon's side of the remake, taking every opportunity to kick his son while he's down even when such levels of cruelty to control him probably weren't necessary.]]



* PlayingWithFire: Stahn/Dymlos.



* {{Retcon}}: In the sequel, [[spoiler:Judas mentions that he only learned dual wielding after Elraine brought him back.]]



* ShockAndAwe: Philia.



* SpoonyBard: Johnny/Karyl.
* SpritePolygonMix: The original engine.

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* %%* SpoonyBard: Johnny/Karyl.
* %%* SpritePolygonMix: The original engine.



* TalkingWeapon: The Swordians.
* {{Tsundere}}: Rutee. And for a male example, remake!Leon.
* TheWisePrince: Woodrow/Garr.

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* %%* TalkingWeapon: The Swordians.
* {{Tsundere}}: Rutee. And for %%* {{Tsundere}}:
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%%** For
a male example, remake!Leon.
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Leon in the remake.
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TheWisePrince: Woodrow/Garr.



6th Feb '17 4:05:06 PM PhiSat
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* CoDragons: [[spoiler: Hugo's four Oberon Executives are all his dragons. Leon in the original is also a lesser dragon.]]



* MrFanservice: LEON.

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* MrFanservice: LEON. Stahn is also an example in the original, [[HaremGenre with quite a budding harem of three party members and a Co-Dragon.]]


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* HaremGenre: Downplayed, but in the original game every single main female character (except Chelsea, who is a child) is a potential LoveInterest for Stahn. This is removed in the remake of the game.
31st Dec '16 12:36:03 AM PhiSat
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Stahn Aileron is a typical countryside boy who dreams of one day becoming a famous hero. Eager to [[JumpedAtTheCall jumpstart]] his heroic career, he stows away on the [[GlobalAirship dragon-ship]] Draconis with the aim of travelling to the nation's capital and enlisting as a knight. En-route, the ship is attacked by monsters, and struggling to find a weapon to fight them off with, Stahn stumbles across an old sword in a storeroom. Suddenly the sword [[TalkingWeapon starts to talk to him]], calling itself Dymlos and claiming to be one of the ancient and powerful Swordian weapons created over a thousand years ago during a world-spanning conflict called the War Between Heaven and Earth.

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Stahn Aileron is a typical countryside boy who dreams of one day becoming a famous hero. Eager to [[JumpedAtTheCall jumpstart]] his heroic career, he stows away on the [[GlobalAirship dragon-ship]] Draconis with the aim of travelling to the nation's capital and enlisting as a knight.knight to try to care for his destitute family. En-route, the ship is attacked by monsters, and struggling to find a weapon to fight them off with, Stahn stumbles across an old sword in a storeroom. Suddenly the sword [[TalkingWeapon starts to talk to him]], calling itself Dymlos and claiming to be one of the ancient and powerful Swordian weapons created over a thousand years ago during a world-spanning conflict called the War Between Heaven and Earth.
30th Dec '16 12:34:54 AM PhiSat
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* AndIMustScream: In the original, [[spoiler: Hugo]] developed a Swordian Disk that would silence them completely. Since the swords cannot move or act by themselves, they were essentially trapped silently watching for a month before anyone realized what had happened.

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* AndIMustScream: In the original, [[spoiler: Hugo]] developed a Swordian Disk that would silence them Swordians completely. Since the swords cannot move or act by themselves, they were essentially trapped silently watching for a month before anyone realized what had happened.


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* ApocalypseHow: A class 1 nearly occurs, with it sliding into class 2 in certain regions of the world by ''VideoGame/TalesOfDestiny2''.
30th Dec '16 12:32:50 AM PhiSat
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* HostileTerraforming: Belcrant, the [[spoiler: Aetherian DoomsdayWeapon,]] was a terraforming laser before being converted into a weapon of mass destruction.

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* HostileTerraforming: Belcrant, the [[spoiler: Aetherian DoomsdayWeapon,]] DoomsdayDevice,]] was a terraforming laser before being converted into a weapon of mass destruction.
30th Dec '16 12:32:19 AM PhiSat
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* DarkIsNotEvil: Berselius's [[spoiler: original]] owner, Karell Berselius, was a [[NiceGuy very kind person.]]
** Pierre de Chaltier's secondary element is darkness, but the man and sword are both mild-mannered and friendly ditzes.



** DarkIsEdgy / HolyHandGrenade ([[spoiler:Miktran]]/Berselius)

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** DarkIsEdgy / HolyHandGrenade / FourElementEnsemble ([[spoiler:Miktran]]/Berselius)



* EnemyScan

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* EnemyScanEnemyScan: The Magic Lens items allow you to see an enemy's HP and weaknesses.


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* HostileTerraforming: Belcrant, the [[spoiler: Aetherian DoomsdayWeapon,]] was a terraforming laser before being converted into a weapon of mass destruction.
30th Dec '16 12:24:07 AM PhiSat
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* BittersweetEnding: The world is saved, but at the price of [[spoiler: the Swordians' lives.]] The world is also badly devastated by the Aethersphere's destruction. [[spoiler: By the time of ''VideoGame/TalesOfDestiny2'' the Kingdom of Seinegald has all but collapsed into a theocracy, and gets worse in several BadFuture timelines.]]
4th Jun '16 10:30:11 PM nombretomado
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* ArtEvolution: Compare Inomata's character artwork between the original PSX game and the PS2 remake. It's almost like they hired an entirely new artist. (Ten years of improvement will do that.)

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* ArtEvolution: Compare Inomata's character artwork between the original PSX game and the PS2 [=PS2=] remake. It's almost like they hired an entirely new artist. (Ten years of improvement will do that.)
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