History VideoGame / SuperRobotWarsJudgment

23rd Jan '16 10:04:11 PM Willbyr
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* AllYourPowersCombined: [[spoiler:[[{{Zeorymer}} Great]] [[SecretCharacter Zeorymer]]]] possesess the strongest attacks of all seven enemy [[{{Zeorymer}} Hakkeshu of the Hau Dragon]]. In the case of Breist of Fire and Gallowin of Water, this is their CombinationAttack "Twin Lords" which [[spoiler:Great Zeorymer]] performs by ''cloning itself''.
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* AllYourPowersCombined: [[spoiler:[[{{Zeorymer}} [[spoiler:[[Manga/{{Zeorymer}} Great]] [[SecretCharacter Zeorymer]]]] possesess the strongest attacks of all seven enemy [[{{Zeorymer}} [[Manga/{{Zeorymer}} Hakkeshu of the Hau Dragon]]. In the case of Breist of Fire and Gallowin of Water, this is their CombinationAttack "Twin Lords" which [[spoiler:Great Zeorymer]] performs by ''cloning itself''.

** This is [[{{Zeorymer}} Burrstone of the Mountain's]] specialty.
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** This is [[{{Zeorymer}} [[Manga/{{Zeorymer}} Burrstone of the Mountain's]] specialty.

** [[{{Zeorymer}} Masato Akitsu's]] [[SplitPersonalityTakeover evil-half Masaki Kihara]] uses one of [[VideoGame/TheKingOfFighters Iori Yagami's]] DesperationAttack quotes.
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** [[{{Zeorymer}} [[Manga/{{Zeorymer}} Masato Akitsu's]] [[SplitPersonalityTakeover evil-half Masaki Kihara]] uses one of [[VideoGame/TheKingOfFighters Iori Yagami's]] DesperationAttack quotes.
10th Jan '16 4:50:41 PM Ryan914
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* JokeCharacter: Despite being a SecretCharacter, [[spoiler:Bonta-kun]] isn't that great. Most players unlock it likely [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUEwjS-iZq4 due to its]] {{Leitmotif}}. ** Note the unit shares the same stat growths as the [[LightNovel/FullMetalPanic ARX-7 Arbalest]]. The only reason why it's not as useful is a lower HP pool and weaker weapons, not to the mention it lacks the Arbalest's "Lambda Drive" abiliity. It does have a high evasion rate, can be upgraded to be fairly decent, if not outstanding (carrying four possible parts slots in contrast to the Arbalest's two), with the benefit of inspiring some [[CrowningMomentOfFunny absurdly funny comments from the villains who fight it]]. The Grenade Launcher is also a mid-to-long ranged weapon at a maximum range of six, whereas the Arbalest caps at the range of four.
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* JokeCharacter: Despite being a SecretCharacter, [[spoiler:Bonta-kun]] isn't that great. Most players unlock it likely [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUEwjS-iZq4 due to its]] {{Leitmotif}}. ** Note the unit Bonta-kun: shares the same stat growths as the [[LightNovel/FullMetalPanic ARX-7 Arbalest]]. The only reason why it's not as useful is a lower HP pool and weaker weapons, not to the mention it lacks the Arbalest's "Lambda Drive" abiliity. It To balance that, it does have a high evasion rate, can be upgraded to be fairly decent, if not outstanding parameters (carrying four possible parts slots in contrast to the Arbalest's two), with the benefit of inspiring some [[CrowningMomentOfFunny absurdly funny comments from the villains who fight it]]. The Grenade Launcher is also a mid-to-long ranged weapon at a maximum range of six, whereas the Arbalest caps at the range of four.
2nd Jan '16 5:51:59 AM Morgenthaler
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* NamiTamaki: "[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71T9FPpNQBE Castaway]]", the theme song of ''Judgment''. Note its not an ''actual'' in-game theme song, but one used for promotional purposes.
4th Dec '15 6:08:45 AM LtQuattro
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* FakeLongevity: While an issue in many ''Super Robot Wars'' games, ''Judgement'' in particular is noted for the number of times that it spawns large numbers of enemy reinforcements. The game is especially fond of doing this on large maps, where it will take several turns for said reinforcement to even reach the player's units.
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* FakeLongevity: While an issue in many ''Super Robot Wars'' games, ''Judgement'' in particular is noted for the number of times that it spawns large numbers of enemy reinforcements. The game is especially fond of doing this on large maps, where it will take several turns for said reinforcement reinforcements to even reach the player's units.
4th Dec '15 6:08:17 AM LtQuattro
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* FakeLongevity: While an issue in many ''Super Robot Wars'' games, ''Judgement'' in particular is noted for the number of times that it spawns large numbers of enemy reinforcements. The game is especially fond of doing this on large maps, where it will take several turns for said reinforcement to even reach the player's units.
26th Nov '15 7:43:41 PM LtQuattro
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* ''Anime/MartianSuccessorNadesico'' * ''Anime/CombattlerV''
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* ''Anime/MartianSuccessorNadesico'' ''Anime/MobileFighterGGundam'' * ''Anime/CombattlerV''''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEED''

** '''''Mazinkaiser vs. The Great General of Darkness''''' * ''Anime/MartianSuccessorNadesico'' ''Anime/CombattlerV'' * ''Anime/CombattlerV''''Anime/VoltesV'' * ''Anime/{{Dancougar}}''

* ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEED'' * '''Anime/TekkamanBlade''' * ''Anime/{{Dancougar}}'' * ''Anime/MobileFighterGGundam'' * '''LightNovel/FullMetalPanic''' * ''[[{{Zeorymer}} Hades Project Zeorymer]]'' * ''VoltesV''
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* ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEED'' * '''Anime/TekkamanBlade''' * ''Anime/{{Dancougar}}'' * ''Anime/MobileFighterGGundam'' * '''LightNovel/FullMetalPanic''' * ''[[{{Zeorymer}} ''[[Manga/{{Zeorymer}} Hades Project Zeorymer]]'' * ''VoltesV'''''''Anime/TekkamanBlade''''' * ''Anime/MartianSuccessorNadesico''

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* ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEED'' * '''Anime/TekkamanBlade''' * ''Anime/{{Dancougar}}'' * ''Anime/MobileFighterGGundam'' * '''LightNovel/FullMetalPanic''' * ''[[{{Zeorymer}} Hades Project Zeorymer]]'' * ''VoltesV'''''''LightNovel/FullMetalPanic''''' ** '''''Anime/FullMetalPanicFumoffu'''''
19th Oct '15 10:13:49 AM HighCrate
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* BossInMookClothing: The 'Behemoth' [[LightNovel/FullMetalPanic Arm Slave]]. In the anime, it was a unique, one-of-a-kind AwesomeButImpractical unit that required a special (and insane) pilot. But after the relevant incident has popped up in the game, numerous Behemoths - driven by ordinary {{Mooks}} - show up in a bunch of stages as mercenaries. They're essentially [[MightyGlacier Mighty Glaciers]], possessing thick armor, a ton of HP, and a 'Lambda Drive' shield to boot... their attacks, however, aren't very accurate, or very long ranged, so they mostly just wind up serving as metallic [[StoneWall Meat Shields]]. On the other hand, if they DO manage to hit you... you're gonna NOTICE.
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* BossInMookClothing: The 'Behemoth' [[LightNovel/FullMetalPanic Arm Slave]]. In the anime, it was a unique, one-of-a-kind AwesomeButImpractical unit that required a special (and insane) pilot. But after the relevant incident has popped up in the game, numerous Behemoths - driven by ordinary {{Mooks}} - show up in a bunch of stages as mercenaries. They're essentially [[MightyGlacier Mighty Glaciers]], possessing They possess thick armor, a ton of HP, and a 'Lambda Drive' shield to boot... their attacks, however, though [[PowerfulButInaccurate powerful, aren't very accurate, accurate]], or very long ranged, so they mostly just wind up serving as metallic [[StoneWall Meat Shields]]. On the other hand, if they DO manage to hit you... you're gonna NOTICE.
25th Aug '15 11:20:58 AM advent_child
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''Judgment'' generated considerable controversy in the ''Super Robot Wars'' fandom. The game was announced mere ''weeks after'' the release of ''[[VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsAlpha Super Robot Wars Alpha 3]]''. Secondly, ''Judgment'' broke tradition by excluding Universal Century ''Franchise/{{Gundam}}'' and ''Manga/GetterRobo'', which disappointed some of the veterans of the series (to date, only ''Anime/{{Mazinger|Z}}'' has appeared in every non-original [=SRW=]). The inclusion of ''Anime/TekkamanBlade'' was seen as a violation by some, as the series uses PoweredArmor rather than HumongousMecha (fans, however, note this demonstrates Banpresto's willingness to expand upon the definition of "robot" for the franchise).
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''Judgment'' generated considerable controversy in the ''Super Robot Wars'' fandom. The game was announced mere ''weeks after'' the release of ''[[VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsAlpha Super Robot Wars Alpha 3]]''. 3]]'' with ''Judgment'' launching less than ''a month'' post-announcement[[note]]No two [=SRW=] installments have had such a narrow release window between them[[/note]]. Secondly, ''Judgment'' broke tradition by excluding Universal Century ''Franchise/{{Gundam}}'' and ''Manga/GetterRobo'', which disappointed some of the [=SRW=] veterans of the series (to date, only ''Anime/{{Mazinger|Z}}'' has appeared in every non-original [=SRW=]). The Finally, the inclusion of ''Anime/TekkamanBlade'' was seen as a violation by some, as the series uses PoweredArmor rather than HumongousMecha (fans, however, note this demonstrates Banpresto's willingness to expand upon the definition of "robot" for the franchise).

''Judgment'' is an excellent introduction to the series for Western newcomers, with its beautiful visuals and tunes, buttery-smooth difficulty curve that stands in stark contrast to [[NintendoHard other games in the series]], accessible game mechanics and a cast of characters from shows that were both localized for and popular with the Western market. However, take care: most of the other translated ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWars'' games are more primitive by comparison in interface and presentation, and it can have the unintentional effect of [[SeinfeldIsUnfunny making its predecessors seem dated and ugly]].
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''Judgment'' is an excellent introduction to the series for Western newcomers, with its beautiful visuals and tunes, buttery-smooth difficulty curve that stands in stark contrast to [[NintendoHard other games in the series]], accessible game mechanics and a cast of characters from shows that were both localized for and popular with the Western market. However, take care: most of the other translated ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWars'' games ''Super Robot Wars'' titles are more primitive by comparison in interface and presentation, and it can have the unintentional effect of [[SeinfeldIsUnfunny making its predecessors seem dated and ugly]].
1st Aug '15 9:58:28 AM nombretomado
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* ''MobileFighterGGundam''
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* ''MobileFighterGGundam''''Anime/MobileFighterGGundam''

** The entire "[[MobileFighterGGundam Devil Colony]]" arc, as its plot comes to a halt upon [[spoiler:Master Asia's death]]. Similarly, [[MobileFighterGGundam Prime Minister Wong Yun-Fat]] (who was involved in the TV series' final arc that the final battle is based on) and [[MobileFighterGGundam Urube Ishikawa]] (whose role of manipulating Domon is partially done by Azrael) are given this.
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** The entire "[[MobileFighterGGundam "[[Anime/MobileFighterGGundam Devil Colony]]" arc, as its plot comes to a halt upon [[spoiler:Master Asia's death]]. Similarly, [[MobileFighterGGundam [[Anime/MobileFighterGGundam Prime Minister Wong Yun-Fat]] (who was involved in the TV series' final arc that the final battle is based on) and [[MobileFighterGGundam [[Anime/MobileFighterGGundam Urube Ishikawa]] (whose role of manipulating Domon is partially done by Azrael) are given this.

* AmbidextrousSprite: Averted; it doesn't matter for most units, as they don't [[FaceHeelTurn change sides]] and most of cast are symmetrical, but it still manages to avoid it with [[spoiler: several Gundam units ([[MobileFighterGGundam Gundam Rose and Bolt Gundam]] and [[MobileSuitGundamSEED Buster and Duel AS]]) having asymmetrical designs. When they appear as enemies, their sprites are edited to not be ambidexterous]].
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* AmbidextrousSprite: Averted; it doesn't matter for most units, as they don't [[FaceHeelTurn change sides]] and most of cast are symmetrical, but it still manages to avoid it with [[spoiler: several Gundam units ([[MobileFighterGGundam ([[Anime/MobileFighterGGundam Gundam Rose and Bolt Gundam]] and [[MobileSuitGundamSEED [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEED Buster and Duel AS]]) having asymmetrical designs. When they appear as enemies, their sprites are edited to not be ambidexterous]].

* AscendedExtra: Of the [[MobileFighterGGundam Shuffle Alliance's]] support characters (excluding [[MobileFighterGGundam Rain Mikamura]]), only George de Sand's butler Raymond makes it in as a new attack for the Gundam Rose, no less. To top it off, Raymond's Butler Gundam gets a map sprite.
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* AscendedExtra: Of the [[MobileFighterGGundam [[Anime/MobileFighterGGundam Shuffle Alliance's]] support characters (excluding [[MobileFighterGGundam [[Anime/MobileFighterGGundam Rain Mikamura]]), only George de Sand's butler Raymond makes it in as a new attack for the Gundam Rose, no less. To top it off, Raymond's Butler Gundam gets a map sprite.

* AscendedFanboy: In addition to Gai and [[Anime/MartianSuccessorNadesico Akito Tenkawa]], [[Anime/{{Mazinkaiser}} Kouji Kabuto]] is also a Anime/{{Gekiganger 3}} fan. If you take the Nadesico[=/=]Layzner Route after Scenario 43, the special Gekiganger film created by the [[Anime/MartianSuccessorNadesico Jovians]] turns almost everyone else into a fan. Even [[MobileFighterGGundam Domon Kasshu]] is overcome with emotion.
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* AscendedFanboy: In addition to Gai and [[Anime/MartianSuccessorNadesico Akito Tenkawa]], [[Anime/{{Mazinkaiser}} Kouji Kabuto]] is also a Anime/{{Gekiganger 3}} fan. If you take the Nadesico[=/=]Layzner Route after Scenario 43, the special Gekiganger film created by the [[Anime/MartianSuccessorNadesico Jovians]] turns almost everyone else into a fan. Even [[MobileFighterGGundam [[Anime/MobileFighterGGundam Domon Kasshu]] is overcome with emotion.

* BigDamnHeroes: [[Anime/{{Dancougar}} Alan Igor]] and [[MobileFighterGGundam Schwarz Bruder]] do this, but [[spoiler:when the party is running from the failed peace negotiations, Gai is the one who pulls this and starts talking about things that actually make sense (even while speaking in Gekiganger), that is, if you meet the requirements for getting him back]].
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* BigDamnHeroes: [[Anime/{{Dancougar}} Alan Igor]] and [[MobileFighterGGundam [[Anime/MobileFighterGGundam Schwarz Bruder]] do this, but [[spoiler:when the party is running from the failed peace negotiations, Gai is the one who pulls this and starts talking about things that actually make sense (even while speaking in Gekiganger), that is, if you meet the requirements for getting him back]].

* CharlesAtlasSuperpower: [[MobileFighterGGundam Master Asia]] can take out several anti-aircraft batteries on the [[MobileSuitGundamSEED Archangel]] with his bare hands like it was nothing, then ''leaps through the air over to the Nadesico and do the exact same thing''. Of course, this IS "[[RedBaron The Undefeated of the East]]" we're talking about here.
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* CharlesAtlasSuperpower: [[MobileFighterGGundam [[Anime/MobileFighterGGundam Master Asia]] can take out several anti-aircraft batteries on the [[MobileSuitGundamSEED [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEED Archangel]] with his bare hands like it was nothing, then ''leaps through the air over to the Nadesico and do the exact same thing''. Of course, this IS "[[RedBaron The Undefeated of the East]]" we're talking about here.

--> '''[[MobileSuitGundamSEED Rau Le Creuset]]''': What is this? The darkness in my heart is disappearing! * CurseCutShort: Although specific to the translation patch, at one point Mao calls Kurz a "motherf-" only for him to cut her off. Later, Domon cuts [[MobileFighterGGundam Allenby Beardsley]] off when she starts to call [[MobileSuitGundamSEED Murata Azrael]] a "blonde, racist, son of a--"
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--> '''[[MobileSuitGundamSEED '''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEED Rau Le Creuset]]''': What is this? The darkness in my heart is disappearing! * CurseCutShort: Although specific to the translation patch, at one point Mao calls Kurz a "motherf-" only for him to cut her off. Later, Domon cuts [[MobileFighterGGundam [[Anime/MobileFighterGGundam Allenby Beardsley]] off when she starts to call [[MobileSuitGundamSEED [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEED Murata Azrael]] a "blonde, racist, son of a--"

* DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu: The seven Hakkeshu of the Hau Dragon and [[spoiler:Great Zeorymer]], [[MobileFighterGGundam The Devil Gundam]], [[Anime/TekkamanBlade Tekkaman Omega]], [[Anime/BrainPowerd Baron Maximillian's Hyper Baronz]] and [[spoiler: Gu-Landon's Zui Gaiden fused with the Fury mothership]]
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* DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu: The seven Hakkeshu of the Hau Dragon and [[spoiler:Great Zeorymer]], [[MobileFighterGGundam [[Anime/MobileFighterGGundam The Devil Gundam]], [[Anime/TekkamanBlade Tekkaman Omega]], [[Anime/BrainPowerd Baron Maximillian's Hyper Baronz]] and [[spoiler: Gu-Landon's Zui Gaiden fused with the Fury mothership]]

* FixFic: [[spoiler:Gai, [[Anime/TekkamanBlade Miyuki "Tekkaman Rapier" Aiba and Balzack Azimov]], [[Anime/BlueCometSPTLayzner Ahmos Gale and Alberto Null Julia Asuka]]]] can survive. [[MobileSuitGundamSEED Asagi, Juri and Mayura of ORB]] also survive (but other ''Gundam SEED'' characters aren't so lucky...), [[Anime/{{Mazinkaiser}} Rolly and Roll]] and [[spoiler: Alan]] don't die. However, [[spoiler: Ru-Kain]] does bite it, while [[spoiler:[[Anime/MartianSuccessorNadesico Haruki Kusakabe]]]] FINALLY dies and the tragic events of ''[[Anime/MartianSuccessorNadesico Prince Of Darkness]]'' are averted.
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* FixFic: [[spoiler:Gai, [[Anime/TekkamanBlade Miyuki "Tekkaman Rapier" Aiba and Balzack Azimov]], [[Anime/BlueCometSPTLayzner Ahmos Gale and Alberto Null Julia Asuka]]]] can survive. [[MobileSuitGundamSEED [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEED Asagi, Juri and Mayura of ORB]] also survive (but other ''Gundam SEED'' characters aren't so lucky...), [[Anime/{{Mazinkaiser}} Rolly and Roll]] and [[spoiler: Alan]] don't die. However, [[spoiler: Ru-Kain]] does bite it, while [[spoiler:[[Anime/MartianSuccessorNadesico Haruki Kusakabe]]]] FINALLY dies and the tragic events of ''[[Anime/MartianSuccessorNadesico Prince Of Darkness]]'' are averted.

* GuestStarPartyMember: [[spoiler: [[MobileSuitGundamSEED Natarle Badgiruel, Tolle Koenig, Kuzzey Buskirk, Mu La Flaga]]]], and the [[spoiler: [[LightNovel/FullMetalPanic Tuatha de Danann]]]]. [[spoiler: Tekkaman Rapier, Balzak and Gai Daigoji]] also count, provided you don't save them.
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* GuestStarPartyMember: [[spoiler: [[MobileSuitGundamSEED [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEED Natarle Badgiruel, Tolle Koenig, Kuzzey Buskirk, Mu La Flaga]]]], and the [[spoiler: [[LightNovel/FullMetalPanic Tuatha de Danann]]]]. [[spoiler: Tekkaman Rapier, Balzak and Gai Daigoji]] also count, provided you don't save them.

* LeaningOnTheFourthWall: Azrael tells Akatsuki that having IFS Nanomachines makes him no better than [[MobileSuitGundamSEED Coordinators]]. Both traits have the same effect on pilot performance.
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* LeaningOnTheFourthWall: Azrael tells Akatsuki that having IFS Nanomachines makes him no better than [[MobileSuitGundamSEED [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEED Coordinators]]. Both traits have the same effect on pilot performance.

* NukeEm: The [[MobileSuitGundamSEED Earth Alliance's]] solution to every problem. It eventually comes back to bite them in the ass HARD.
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* NukeEm: The [[MobileSuitGundamSEED [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEED Earth Alliance's]] solution to every problem. It eventually comes back to bite them in the ass HARD.

* ReasonableAuthorityFigure: Yurika's father, Admiral Koichiro, holds back [[MobileSuitGundamSEED Blue Cosmos]] and their mad plans from within the UEFA for as long as he can.
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* ReasonableAuthorityFigure: Yurika's father, Admiral Koichiro, holds back [[MobileSuitGundamSEED [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEED Blue Cosmos]] and their mad plans from within the UEFA for as long as he can.

* ShoutOut: The animation for the "Burning Punch" from the [[MobileFighterGGundam Gundam Maxter]] ends with a [[StreetFighter Shoryu]][[{{Shoryuken}} reppa]]. Bonta-kun's melee attack also incorporates the same punch. ** Other [[MobileFighterGGundam Chibodee Crockett]]-related shouts include references to boxers Mike Tyson and Mohammad Ali. Hell, he even references Ali's CatchPhrase:
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* ShoutOut: The animation for the "Burning Punch" from the [[MobileFighterGGundam [[Anime/MobileFighterGGundam Gundam Maxter]] ends with a [[StreetFighter Shoryu]][[{{Shoryuken}} reppa]]. Bonta-kun's melee attack also incorporates the same punch. ** Other [[MobileFighterGGundam [[Anime/MobileFighterGGundam Chibodee Crockett]]-related shouts include references to boxers Mike Tyson and Mohammad Ali. Hell, he even references Ali's CatchPhrase:

** [[MobileSuitGundamSEED Kira Yamato]] vs Rau Le Crueset
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** [[MobileSuitGundamSEED [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEED Kira Yamato]] vs Rau Le Crueset

* SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism: Played with; although the crew of the Archangel are extremely cynical, they do make sound tactical judgment and treat everything as WarIsHell. The likes of [[Anime/BlueCometSPTLayzner Eiji Asuka]] and [[Anime/TekkamanBlade D-Boy]] are justifiably downbeat, too. On the other hand, most of the others are ridiculously idealistic and despite making decisions that could get everyone killed, are always morally right. [[Anime/{{Mazinkaiser}} Makes]] [[Anime/BrainPowerd perfect]] [[VoltesV sense]] [[Anime/CombattlerV when]] [[Anime/{{Dancougar}} you]] [[Anime/MartianSuccessorNadesico look]] [[MobileFighterGGundam at the cast]].
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* SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism: Played with; although the crew of the Archangel are extremely cynical, they do make sound tactical judgment and treat everything as WarIsHell. The likes of [[Anime/BlueCometSPTLayzner Eiji Asuka]] and [[Anime/TekkamanBlade D-Boy]] are justifiably downbeat, too. On the other hand, most of the others are ridiculously idealistic and despite making decisions that could get everyone killed, are always morally right. [[Anime/{{Mazinkaiser}} Makes]] [[Anime/BrainPowerd perfect]] [[VoltesV sense]] [[Anime/CombattlerV when]] [[Anime/{{Dancougar}} you]] [[Anime/MartianSuccessorNadesico look]] [[MobileFighterGGundam [[Anime/MobileFighterGGundam at the cast]].

* TheWorldIsAlwaysDoomed: The [[Anime/{{Mazinkaiser}} Mikene Empire]] is attacking in full force, Orphan is about to exit the atmosphere, and [[MobileSuitGundamSEED Genesis]] is ready to burn the Earth to a crisp. Yeah, nothing alarming about it.
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* TheWorldIsAlwaysDoomed: The [[Anime/{{Mazinkaiser}} Mikene Empire]] is attacking in full force, Orphan is about to exit the atmosphere, and [[MobileSuitGundamSEED [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEED Genesis]] is ready to burn the Earth to a crisp. Yeah, nothing alarming about it.

* WhatTheHellHero: After the Archangel uses [[MobileSuitGundamSEED Lacus Clyne]] as a human shield, almost everyone who had joined the group (and Touya, if he's the protagonist) up to that point are royally pissed, to the point the Archangel crew was worried they would abandon them. Just about the only character who takes the other side is [[GreyAndGreyMorality Akatsuki]].
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* WhatTheHellHero: After the Archangel uses [[MobileSuitGundamSEED [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamSEED Lacus Clyne]] as a human shield, almost everyone who had joined the group (and Touya, if he's the protagonist) up to that point are royally pissed, to the point the Archangel crew was worried they would abandon them. Just about the only character who takes the other side is [[GreyAndGreyMorality Akatsuki]].
21st Jul '15 12:28:18 PM reppuzan
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** The same can be said for the secret fourth unit [[spoiler: The Laftkranz]] which has the qualities of all three other originals. It's an L-Sized unit, meaning it has the firepower and defense of the Granteed. It's also quite dodgy thanks to the Orgone Cloud (which is even available on its predecessor unit the [[spoiler: Vorlent]]) and has a variety of long ranged weapons and a MAP attack. Finally, it isn't lacking in close range attack either, having a Combo Attack and a strong melee attack comparable to the Granteed's, albeit for more EN.
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