History VideoGame / SuperRobotWarsDestiny

16th Sep '17 11:47:45 AM nombretomado
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''Super Robot Wars Destiny'' is the fourth installment of Banpresto's ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWars'' franchise on the Creator/{{Nintendo}} GameBoyAdvance, preceded by ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsAdvance'', ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsReversal'' and ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsOriginalGeneration''. The series featured in ''Destiny'' is noted to be unique towards fans at the time (other than ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsJudgment'' and ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsK'', since both involve the removal of traditional series), as uncommonly used series appear in the main plot, such as ''Anime/{{Megazone 23}}'' and ''Anime/TheBigO''.

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''Super Robot Wars Destiny'' is the fourth installment of Banpresto's ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWars'' franchise on the Creator/{{Nintendo}} GameBoyAdvance, UsefulNotes/GameBoyAdvance, preceded by ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsAdvance'', ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsReversal'' and ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsOriginalGeneration''. The series featured in ''Destiny'' is noted to be unique towards fans at the time (other than ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsJudgment'' and ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsK'', since both involve the removal of traditional series), as uncommonly used series appear in the main plot, such as ''Anime/{{Megazone 23}}'' and ''Anime/TheBigO''.
17th Jan '17 1:12:08 PM CouchAlmark
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* GameBreakingBug: A primary reason why some certain gamers were ticked off about ''Destiny''. The armor coding is so bugged that it {{nerf}}s {{super robot}}s and their ability to tank. However, some players argue there is no bug present in the game: Units in ''Destiny'' simply have defensive stats on par with the Classic Timeline games, while weapon attack power is on the high end of the scale, comparable to the ''Original Generation'' titles. Since ''Destiny'' units lack the high armor rating to balance it out, overall damage is rendered higher. Accuracy and evasion rates for real-types are similarly high, as most real robot pilots have the "Focus" Spirit Command to give themselves a boost. At the same time, it's rare to see super robot pilots in ''Destiny'' to get the "Guard" Spirit Command to raise their defense (though they universally have ''some'' sort of defensive Spirit Command).
** There are basically several features to the game that combine in a less-than-helpful manner. The higher weapon attack stats, middling armor stats, unusually high reliance on the ''pilot's'' Defense stat in calculating damage taken, while adding up to an irritating problem for traditionally MightyGlacier types, are also what allow the under-3-meter tall Anime/{{Megazone23}} units to be competitive. (Worth noting that the VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsZ sequels circumvented this with the [[Anime/ArmoredTrooperVOTOMS ATs]].)
*** Long story short, the game doesn't like the concept of [[{{LightningBruiser}} Lightning Bruisers]] to the point of refusing to include any. In the end, it can be circumvented with a change in tactics - treat your units as interceptors and bombers rather than infantry and unstoppable tanks on the first playthrough. And, because you'll have pre-modified afflicted characters' Defense stats for every following run, the 'bug' isn't as noticeable from the second playthrough onwards.
** One that is an ''actual'' bug, though, is that the game applies Bonus Points to character data regardless of if they are friend or foe at the moment. So, if you level up and modify [[Anime/MobileSuitVictoryGundam Chronicle]], [[Anime/{{Megazone23}} B.D]], [[Anime/GodMars Marg and Rose]][[note]]Rose only gets BP if you convince her properly; otherwise she becomes the fifth Cosmo Crusher pilot and won't gain any to begin with[[/note]], or [[Anime/{{Macross7}} Gabil]] at all, they'll have those modifications to their stats when you fight them on your next playthrough. The kicker is that the game gives different character portraits different stats, so this means ''Brainwashed'' Marg (enemy only) doesn't get the Bonuses, but [[Anime/MobileSuitVictoryGundam Katejina]] and Glacius (their portraits only change when they join) aren't affected.
*** Luckily, the game properly transfers [[Manga/GetterRobo Hayato]] and [[Anime/{{Macross7}} Max's]] BP. (Hint: don't pump up ''just'' their Defense.)



* UrbanLegendOfZelda: ''Destiny'' is commonly said to have a GameBreakingBug that causes the Armor stat to not apply to damage reduction. The actual cause of the issue is that units in ''Destiny'' simply have defensive stats on par with the Classic Timeline games, while weapon attack power is on the high end of the scale, comparable to the ''Original Generation'' titles. Since ''Destiny'' units lack the high Armor rating to balance it out, overall damage is much higher, making super robots, who are normally [[MightyGlacier Mighty Glaciers]] and [[LightningBruiser Lightning Bruisers]], into GlassCannon units instead. While it is possible to make a unit into a durable one, it requires considerable investment in both the robot's Armor stat and the pilot's Defense stat; most games only require one or the other. This is easily tested by upgrading a unit's Armor before going into battle and comparing the numbers to the same unit without upgrades, but rumors of an Armor bug still persist to this day.
** Unit accuracy and evasion in ''Destiny'' is also lower than average, but the "Focus" Spirit Command that increases hit and dodge rate is available on virtually every pilot who needs it, while it's comparatively rare for super robot pilots to get the "Guard" Spirit Command that boosts defense. Other defensive commands are available, but most only affect one incoming attack.
** One that is an ''actual'' bug, though, is that the game applies Bonus Points to character data regardless of if they are friend or foe at the moment. So, if you level up and modify [[Anime/MobileSuitVictoryGundam Chronicle]], [[Anime/{{Megazone23}} B.D]], [[Anime/GodMars Marg and Rose]][[note]]Rose only gets BP if you convince her properly; otherwise she becomes the fifth Cosmo Crusher pilot and won't gain any to begin with[[/note]], or [[Anime/{{Macross7}} Gabil]] at all, they'll have those modifications to their stats when you fight them on your next playthrough. The kicker is that the game gives different character portraits different stats, so this means ''Brainwashed'' Marg (enemy only) doesn't get the Bonuses, but [[Anime/MobileSuitVictoryGundam Katejina]] and Glacius (their portraits only change when they join) aren't affected.
*** Luckily, the game properly transfers [[Manga/GetterRobo Hayato]] and [[Anime/{{Macross7}} Max's]] BP. (Hint: don't pump up ''just'' their Defense.)
* VillainTeamUp: Schwartzvald is mind controlled by Ruina and the Invaders are controlled by Cohen and Stinger who work for the Ruina.
* WellIntentionedExtremist: If you choose to go to space for the first few scenarios, the story focuses on making it really damn clear that Char is this, stripping the "extremist" part away with the sudden disappearance of Earth and basically turning him into the BigGood for a while.



* WhereItAllBegan: The final battlefield is located in the South Pole, where you first get to control Joshua and Cliana.
* WhyAmITicking: [[Anime/{{Godmars}} Takeru]] is connected to [[EarthShatteringKaboom a bomb that can wipe out the Earth]] via his brainwaves stored in the Godmars itself; therefore, players unfamiliar with Godmars are likely to be surprised when they get a game over if Godmars is destroyed (although, if you've played [[VideoGame/SuperRobotWars 4 any of]] [[VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsAlpha the games]] featuring ''Anime/SpaceRunawayIdeon'', you'll be quick to pick this little detail up). It doesn't help that [[spoiler: Takeru's Gaia (initially) transforms into Godmars when it's severely damaged (i.e. HP bar is in the red)]], either. This little penalty also applies when you're in space and nowhere near a planet, too.



* WellIntentionedExtremist: If you choose to go to space for the first few scenarios, the story focuses on making it really damn clear that Char is this, stripping the "extremist" part away with the sudden disappearance of Earth and basically turning him into the BigGood for a while.
* WhereItAllBegan: The final battlefield is located in the South Pole, where you first get to control Joshua and Cliana.
* WhyAmITicking: [[Anime/{{Godmars}} Takeru]] is connected to [[EarthShatteringKaboom a bomb that can wipe out the Earth]] via his brainwaves stored in the Godmars itself; therefore, players unfamiliar with Godmars are likely to be surprised when they get a game over if Godmars is destroyed (although, if you've played [[VideoGame/SuperRobotWars 4 any of]] [[VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsAlpha the games]] featuring ''Anime/SpaceRunawayIdeon'', you'll be quick to pick this little detail up). It doesn't help that [[spoiler: Takeru's Gaia (initially) transforms into Godmars when it's severely damaged (i.e. HP bar is in the red)]], either. This little penalty also applies when you're in space and nowhere near a planet, too.
* VillainTeamUp: Schwartzvald is mind controlled by Ruina and the Invaders are controlled by Cohen and Stinger who work for the Ruina.
23rd Nov '16 9:04:10 PM WolfThunder
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* '''Anime/TheBigO''' (Season 1)
* '''[[Anime/MiraiRoboDaltanious Future Robo Daltanious]]'''
* '''[[Manga/GetterRobo Getter Robo Armageddon]]'''

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* '''Anime/TheBigO''' '''''Anime/TheBigO''''' (Season 1)
* '''[[Anime/MiraiRoboDaltanious '''''[[Anime/MiraiRoboDaltanious Future Robo Daltanious]]'''
Daltanious]]'''''
* '''[[Manga/GetterRobo '''''[[Manga/GetterRobo Getter Robo Armageddon]]'''Armageddon]]'''''



* '''Anime/{{Macross 7}}'''
* '''Anime/{{Megazone 23}}''' (Parts I and II)

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* '''Anime/{{Macross 7}}'''
'''''Anime/{{Macross 7}}'''''
* '''Anime/{{Megazone 23}}''' '''''Anime/{{Megazone 23}}''''' (Parts I and II)
8th May '16 8:45:59 PM WolfThunder
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* CoolMask: [[Anime/UFORoboGrendizer Duke Fleed]] and Chronicle Asher

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* CoolMask: [[Anime/UFORoboGrendizer Duke Fleed]] and [[Anime/MobileSuitVictoryGundam Chronicle AsherAsher]]
22nd Apr '16 3:20:49 AM WearSystem
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** The SixthRangerTraitor - Glacies or Wintos, depending on who the primary protagonist is; [[spoiler:if certain conditions are met, they become recruitable]]

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** The SixthRangerTraitor - Glacies or Wintos, Ventus, depending on who the primary protagonist is; [[spoiler:if certain conditions are met, they become recruitable]]
22nd Apr '16 3:14:27 AM WearSystem
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* AwesomeMcCoolname: "[[spoiler: Forte Gigas]]" is ''exactly'' what you want your HumongousMecha to be called.

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* AwesomeMcCoolname: "[[spoiler: Forte "[[spoiler:Forte Gigas]]" is ''exactly'' what you want your HumongousMecha to be called.
7th Jan '16 8:08:33 PM nombretomado
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* WhyAmITicking: [[Anime/{{Godmars}} Takeru]] is connected to [[EarthShatteringKaboom a bomb that can wipe out the Earth]] via his brainwaves stored in the Godmars itself; therefore, players unfamiliar with Godmars are likely to be surprised when they get a game over if Godmars is destroyed (although, if you've played [[VideoGame/SuperRobotWars 4 any of]] [[VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsAlpha the games]] featuring ''SpaceRunawayIdeon'', you'll be quick to pick this little detail up). It doesn't help that [[spoiler: Takeru's Gaia (initially) transforms into Godmars when it's severely damaged (i.e. HP bar is in the red)]], either. This little penalty also applies when you're in space and nowhere near a planet, too.

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* WhyAmITicking: [[Anime/{{Godmars}} Takeru]] is connected to [[EarthShatteringKaboom a bomb that can wipe out the Earth]] via his brainwaves stored in the Godmars itself; therefore, players unfamiliar with Godmars are likely to be surprised when they get a game over if Godmars is destroyed (although, if you've played [[VideoGame/SuperRobotWars 4 any of]] [[VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsAlpha the games]] featuring ''SpaceRunawayIdeon'', ''Anime/SpaceRunawayIdeon'', you'll be quick to pick this little detail up). It doesn't help that [[spoiler: Takeru's Gaia (initially) transforms into Godmars when it's severely damaged (i.e. HP bar is in the red)]], either. This little penalty also applies when you're in space and nowhere near a planet, too.
23rd Oct '15 12:52:39 PM advent_child
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''Super Robot Wars Destiny'' is the fourth installment of Banpresto's ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWars'' franchise on the Creator/{{Nintendo}} GameBoyAdvance, preceded by ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsAdvance'', ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsReversal'' and ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsOriginalGeneration''. The series featured in ''Destiny'' is noted to be unique towards fans at the time (other than ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsJudgment'' and ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsK'', since both involve the removal of traditional series), as uncommonly used series appear in the main plot, such as ''Anime/{{Megazone23}}'' and ''Anime/TheBigO''.

!Featured series (debuts in bold):
* '''Anime/TheBigO (Season 1)'''

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''Super Robot Wars Destiny'' is the fourth installment of Banpresto's ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWars'' franchise on the Creator/{{Nintendo}} GameBoyAdvance, preceded by ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsAdvance'', ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsReversal'' and ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsOriginalGeneration''. The series featured in ''Destiny'' is noted to be unique towards fans at the time (other than ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsJudgment'' and ''VideoGame/SuperRobotWarsK'', since both involve the removal of traditional series), as uncommonly used series appear in the main plot, such as ''Anime/{{Megazone23}}'' ''Anime/{{Megazone 23}}'' and ''Anime/TheBigO''.

!Featured series (debuts Series (Debuts highlighted in bold):
* '''Anime/TheBigO '''Anime/TheBigO''' (Season 1)'''1)



* [[Anime/{{Godmars}} Six God Combination Godmars]]

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* [[Anime/{{Godmars}} ''[[Anime/{{Godmars}} Six God Combination Godmars]]Godmars]]''



* '''Anime/{{Megazone 23}} (Parts I and II)'''
* Mobile Suit Gundam Series
** [[Anime/MobileSuitZetaGundam Zeta Gundam]]
** [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamZZ Gundam ZZ]]
** [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamCharsCounterattack Chars Counterattack]]
** [[Anime/MobileSuitVictoryGundam Victory Gundam]]
** [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamWing Gundam Wing]] (TV series, ''not'' [[TheMovie Endless Waltz]])
* Mazinger Series
** Anime/{{Mazinger Z}}
** Anime/{{Great Mazinger}}
** Anime/UFORoboGrendizer

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* '''Anime/{{Megazone 23}} 23}}''' (Parts I and II)'''
II)
* Mobile Suit Gundam Series
''Franchise/{{Gundam}}''
** [[Anime/MobileSuitZetaGundam Zeta Gundam]]
''Anime/MobileSuitZetaGundam''
** [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamZZ Gundam ZZ]]
''Anime/MobileSuitGundamZZ''
** [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamCharsCounterattack Chars Counterattack]]
''Anime/MobileSuitGundamCharsCounterattack''
** [[Anime/MobileSuitVictoryGundam Victory Gundam]]
''Anime/MobileSuitVictoryGundam''
** [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamWing Gundam Wing]] ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamWing'' (TV series, ''not'' [[TheMovie Endless Waltz]])
''Anime/MobileSuitGundamWingEndlessWaltz'')
* Mazinger Series
Mazinger
** Anime/{{Mazinger Z}}
''Anime/{{Mazinger Z}}''
** Anime/{{Great Mazinger}}
''Anime/{{Great Mazinger}}''
** Anime/UFORoboGrendizer
''Anime/UFORoboGrendizer''
30th Aug '15 3:58:15 AM ReiKusanagi
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** BackFromTheBrink: Yet with your team, by the end of it things are looking much brighter.
21st Aug '15 6:22:31 PM nombretomado
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** [[CharsCounterattack Char's]] colony and asteroid drop are also overlooked with more justification, as everyone - Char himself included - clearly has ''way'' bigger fish to fry. Amuro and Char even cooperate to an even friendlier extent than they did in Zeta.

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** [[CharsCounterattack [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamCharsCounterattack Char's]] colony and asteroid drop are also overlooked with more justification, as everyone - Char himself included - clearly has ''way'' bigger fish to fry. Amuro and Char even cooperate to an even friendlier extent than they did in Zeta.



** Zanscare's brutality is a large plot point early on during intermissions, including their habits of public executions. [[CharsCounterattack Amuro Ray and Bright Noah]] fail to stop [[CharsCounterattack Char Aznable's attempt at dropping Axis on Earth]][[note]]Londo Bell apparently never got formed, thanks to the Organization of Zodaic coup d'etat. In fact, Bright and Amuro start the game as prisoners/guests of Char's[[/note]]. Also, ''both'' of the [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamZZ Purus]] are dead. ''Destiny'' pretty much finds a way to make Universal Century more depressing, even when events are already concluded.

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** Zanscare's brutality is a large plot point early on during intermissions, including their habits of public executions. [[CharsCounterattack [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamCharsCounterattack Amuro Ray and Bright Noah]] fail to stop [[CharsCounterattack [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamCharsCounterattack Char Aznable's attempt at dropping Axis on Earth]][[note]]Londo Bell apparently never got formed, thanks to the Organization of Zodaic coup d'etat. In fact, Bright and Amuro start the game as prisoners/guests of Char's[[/note]]. Also, ''both'' of the [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamZZ Purus]] are dead. ''Destiny'' pretty much finds a way to make Universal Century more depressing, even when events are already concluded.



* MidseasonUpgrade: ''Destiny'' notably gives Amuro three of them in a single playthrough. He begins with the [[CharsCounterattack Re-GZ]], then moves to his canon [[CharsCounterattack Nu Gundam]]. If certain requirements are met, the Nu Gundam HWS (Heavy Weapons System) is unlocked. Finally, the uber-powerful Hi-Nu Gundam is a ''mandatory'' upgrade for the last scenarios of the game. In a twist, while upgrades carry over from the Nu to the Nu HWS, it doesn't for the Hi-Nu.

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* MidseasonUpgrade: ''Destiny'' notably gives Amuro three of them in a single playthrough. He begins with the [[CharsCounterattack [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamCharsCounterattack Re-GZ]], then moves to his canon [[CharsCounterattack [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamCharsCounterattack Nu Gundam]]. If certain requirements are met, the Nu Gundam HWS (Heavy Weapons System) is unlocked. Finally, the uber-powerful Hi-Nu Gundam is a ''mandatory'' upgrade for the last scenarios of the game. In a twist, while upgrades carry over from the Nu to the Nu HWS, it doesn't for the Hi-Nu.



** A scenario or two earlier tries to take this into account: the only battleship you can use is the [[CharsCounterattack Ra Calium]]. However, you can still sortie the ''much larger'' Shin Dragon as one of your units.
* WhatIf: [[CharsCounterattack Londo Bell]] failed to stop the Axis drop (and in fact seems to have not been formed in the first place due to OZ's coup d'etat) and got assimilated into [[CharsCounterattack Neo Zeon's forces]]? This is how ''Destiny'' starts out.

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** A scenario or two earlier tries to take this into account: the only battleship you can use is the [[CharsCounterattack [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamCharsCounterattack Ra Calium]]. However, you can still sortie the ''much larger'' Shin Dragon as one of your units.
* WhatIf: [[CharsCounterattack [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamCharsCounterattack Londo Bell]] failed to stop the Axis drop (and in fact seems to have not been formed in the first place due to OZ's coup d'etat) and got assimilated into [[CharsCounterattack [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamCharsCounterattack Neo Zeon's forces]]? This is how ''Destiny'' starts out.
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