History VideoGame / SuikodenV

12th Aug '17 3:15:33 AM SeptimusHeap
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* HomoeroticSubtext: Lucretia gets Lelei and Cathari; Miakis gets {{Subtext}} [[{{Lolicon}} with her charge, the Princess Lymsleia]]; then there's Richard's slavish devotion towards Mueller...Most all of this is lampshaded at some point, usually by Oboro.

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* HomoeroticSubtext: Lucretia gets Lelei and Cathari; Miakis gets {{Subtext}} [[{{Lolicon}} with her charge, the Princess Lymsleia]]; Lymsleia; then there's Richard's slavish devotion towards Mueller...Most all of this is lampshaded at some point, usually by Oboro.



* LauncherOfAThousandShips: Lymsleia, InUniverse. Partly justified by the fact that she's a princess and her husband will sit the throne beside her, but several individuals seem to [[{{Lolicon}} actually desire her]], either in text or subtext.

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* LauncherOfAThousandShips: Lymsleia, InUniverse. Partly justified by the fact that she's a princess and her husband will sit the throne beside her, but several individuals seem to [[{{Lolicon}} actually desire her]], her, either in text or subtext.



* {{Lolicon}}: Euram's slavish declarations of love for Crown Princess Lymsleia, who's all of ''ten''... Sure, marrying her will net him the kingdom, but he goes a ''biiiiit'' [[{{Squick}} over the top]]. Whether it's [[{{Squick}} disturbing]] or [[LargeHam funny]] is up to you.
** {{Averted}} with Gizel, however, who barely gives a polite pretense of interest in ''her''.
** Gavaya also seems creepily into Lymsleia. But he also feels that way for [[AnythingThatMoves anyone else with a vagina]].
** And then there's the SleepCute and ShipTease Lymsleia gets with [[BrotherSisterIncest the Prince]], and the {{Subtext}} with Miakis... um... Lymsleia is a bit young to be getting this much attention, isn't she?
9th Aug '17 10:45:56 AM salvadorfranz
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* LoadsAndLoadsOfLoading: If there is one thing fans complain about this game, it's that the loading times take forever.
31st Jul '17 12:47:39 PM SSJMagus
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* LateArrivalSpoiler: The revelation that [[spoiler:Georg killed Arshtat]] is treated as a WhamEpisode very late in the game...but anyone who's played ''VideoGame/SuikodenII'' and made use of [[HardboiledDetective Richmond]]'s services in it will have already figured that out.

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* LateArrivalSpoiler: The revelation that [[spoiler:Georg killed Arshtat]] is treated as a WhamEpisode very late in the game...but anyone who's played ''VideoGame/SuikodenII'' and made use of [[HardboiledDetective Richmond]]'s services in it will have already figured that out. The only mystery was how and why it happened. [[spoiler:It turns out that Arshtat and Ferid had ordered Georg to do so if Arshtat ever completely lost control of the Sun Rune.]]
22nd Apr '17 2:10:09 PM nombretomado
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''SuikodenV'' is set five years before the events of ''SuikodenI'', and chronicles a period of great internal strife in the Queendom of Falena. Though technically a monarchy, the aristocracy holds so much power within Falena that their squabbles and power-plays threaten to de-stablise the whole country. Complicating matters is the presence of the Sun Rune, [[ArtifactOfDoom an royal artifact of apocalyptic power]] and one of the 27 True Runes in the world of ''Suikoden''. Years ago, Queen Arshtat bound the Sun Rune to herself to prevent it from falling into the wrong hands, but now [[WithGreatPowerComesGreatInsanity she is slowly succumbing to its malevolent influence]] and threatening to unleash a great disaster upon the world.

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''SuikodenV'' ''Suikoden V'' is set five years before the events of ''SuikodenI'', ''VideoGame/SuikodenI'', and chronicles a period of great internal strife in the Queendom of Falena. Though technically a monarchy, the aristocracy holds so much power within Falena that their squabbles and power-plays threaten to de-stablise the whole country. Complicating matters is the presence of the Sun Rune, [[ArtifactOfDoom an royal artifact of apocalyptic power]] and one of the 27 True Runes in the world of ''Suikoden''. Years ago, Queen Arshtat bound the Sun Rune to herself to prevent it from falling into the wrong hands, but now [[WithGreatPowerComesGreatInsanity she is slowly succumbing to its malevolent influence]] and threatening to unleash a great disaster upon the world.



The game is filled with {{Continuity Nod}}s and {{Shout Out}}s to ''SuikodenI'' and especially ''SuikodenII'', in a deliberate attempt to get back to the series' roots.

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The game is filled with {{Continuity Nod}}s and {{Shout Out}}s to ''SuikodenI'' ''VideoGame/SuikodenI'' and especially ''SuikodenII'', ''VideoGame/SuikodenII'', in a deliberate attempt to get back to the series' roots.



!!''SuikodenV'' provides examples of:

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!!''SuikodenV'' !!''Suikoden V'' provides examples of:



* HeroicMime: The Prince. There was one sequence where it seemed that this is averted, but it's [[spoiler: Roy in disguise]]. As is usual with the ''{{Suikoden}}'' series, the hero does talk, but only when you're given dialogue options. Instead of a simple Yes/No option, the player is given choices of the actual lines the hero will be saying. Though unlike the other characters, the Prince doesn't have a voice actor ''speaking'' the lines. And given that those dialogue choices are usually only given at key moments, with Lyon [[spoiler: (or, when she's incapacitated, Miakis)]] doing most of the speaking for him, it's clear that the Prince wouldn't be a very talkative guy even if we did hear him.

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* HeroicMime: The Prince. There was one sequence where it seemed that this is averted, but it's [[spoiler: Roy in disguise]]. As is usual with the ''{{Suikoden}}'' ''VideoGame/{{Suikoden}}'' series, the hero does talk, but only when you're given dialogue options. Instead of a simple Yes/No option, the player is given choices of the actual lines the hero will be saying. Though unlike the other characters, the Prince doesn't have a voice actor ''speaking'' the lines. And given that those dialogue choices are usually only given at key moments, with Lyon [[spoiler: (or, when she's incapacitated, Miakis)]] doing most of the speaking for him, it's clear that the Prince wouldn't be a very talkative guy even if we did hear him.



* MythologyGag: The alternate outfits worn by the Prince, Lyon, and Kyle during certain sections of the plot are meant to invoke the outfits worn by [=McDohl=], Cleo, and Viktor in [[SuikodenI the original game]]. You also get to go to an [[VideoGame/SuikodenIV Island Nations]] city and fight a battle there with a remix of ''VideoGame/SuikodenIV'''s battle soundtrack. Not to mention the recurring characters.

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* MythologyGag: The alternate outfits worn by the Prince, Lyon, and Kyle during certain sections of the plot are meant to invoke the outfits worn by [=McDohl=], Cleo, and Viktor in [[SuikodenI [[VideoGame/SuikodenI the original game]]. You also get to go to an [[VideoGame/SuikodenIV Island Nations]] city and fight a battle there with a remix of ''VideoGame/SuikodenIV'''s battle soundtrack. Not to mention the recurring characters.



* WhamShot: The scene depicting how Arshtat [[spoiler: was killed]]. It's an even bigger shock when you know that this is something that was referenced in one of Richmond's investigations in ''{{Suikoden II}}'', a game that was released '''7 years prior.'''

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* WhamShot: The scene depicting how Arshtat [[spoiler: was killed]]. It's an even bigger shock when you know that this is something that was referenced in one of Richmond's investigations in ''{{Suikoden II}}'', ''VideoGame/SuikodenII'', a game that was released '''7 years prior.'''
3rd Feb '17 9:33:05 AM Gosicrystal
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%% What reason? * Princess Lymsleia, with good reason.

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%% What reason? * ** Princess Lymsleia, with good reason.Lymsleia.
3rd Feb '17 9:32:24 AM Gosicrystal
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* GameplayAndStorySegregation:
** The Prince acquires the spell "First Light" as part of a side quest to heal Lyon. That spell can be used in battle.

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* GameplayAndStorySegregation:
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GameplayAndStorySegregation: The Prince acquires the spell "First Light" as part of a side quest to heal Lyon. That spell can be used in battle.



* GuideDangIt: The 108 Stars of Destiny can be very annoying to recruit, not to mention their tendency to be LostForever:
** Oboro can be a big offender here, along with [[spoiler: Sagiri and Nakula]], among others.
** Other big examples would be Cornelio, who has a VERY brief window of opportunity to be recruited (with no build-up to him at all, and no indication of when you're able to get him), and practically everyone in Lunas, as even getting back in requires one obscure support character that few people would ever use otherwise (who in fact might be considered a GuideDangIt himself).
** And Josephine, who you can either recruit very early in the game or really, really late [[spoiler: (by talking to her with either Sialeeds or Shula Valya in your party.)]]
** Not to mention Egbert. You have to endure an extremely long speech from him at the lowest text scroll speed. [[spoiler:If you press X even once during the speech (the button that would usually let you skip the text) then he will refuse to join until you leave the cave and try again. This is not even hinted at.]]

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* GuideDangIt: The 108 Stars of Destiny can be very annoying to recruit, not to mention their tendency to be LostForever:
[[PermanentlyMissableContent unobtainable past a certain point]]:
** Oboro can be a big offender here, Oboro, along with [[spoiler: Sagiri [[spoiler:Sagiri and Nakula]], among others.
** Other big examples would be Cornelio, who has a VERY brief window of opportunity to be recruited (with no build-up to him at all, and no indication of when you're able to get him), and practically everyone in Lunas, as even getting back in requires one obscure support character that few people would ever use otherwise (who in fact might be considered a GuideDangIt himself).
** And Josephine, who you can either recruit very early in the game or really, really late [[spoiler: (by [[spoiler:(by talking to her with either Sialeeds or Shula Valya in your party.)]]
party)]].
** Not to mention Egbert. You have to endure an extremely long speech from him at the lowest text scroll speed. [[spoiler:If you press X even once during the speech (the button that would usually let you skip the text) then he will refuse to join until you leave the cave and try again. This is not even hinted at.]]



* RandomEncounter: Not quite high as in VideoGame/SuikodenIV, but still... Even in the very first dungeon, you won't leave it without at least ten random encounters while getting two mediocre treasures.

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* RandomEncounter: Not quite high as in VideoGame/SuikodenIV, ''VideoGame/SuikodenIV'', but still... Even in the very first dungeon, you won't leave it without at least ten random encounters while getting two mediocre treasures.



* RebelliousPrincess: Princess Lymsleia, with good reason.
** There's also [[spoiler:Yuma Valya, a SpoiledBrat version who fled to Falena because she saw New Armes as "uncultured" and she was tired of living in her brother Shula's shadow She goes by the assumed name Josephine...]]

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* RebelliousPrincess: Princess Lymsleia, with good reason.
** There's also
[[spoiler:Yuma Valya, a SpoiledBrat version who fled to Falena because she saw New Armes as "uncultured" and she was tired of living in her brother Shula's shadow She goes by the assumed name Josephine...]]]]
%% What reason? * Princess Lymsleia, with good reason.



* RevengeBeforeReason: Nakula, arguably.

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* %%* RevengeBeforeReason: Nakula, arguably.Nakula.
17th Jan '17 6:59:31 PM DustSnitch
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* [[AbandonedByTheCavalry Abandoned By The Dragon Cavalry]]: [[spoiler: The Dragon Cavalry refuse to help the Prince because the Godwins are holding their eggs hostage. You can save the eggs, or you can hold out until Craig decides to [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome damn the torpedoes and help anyway.]]]]

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* [[AbandonedByTheCavalry Abandoned By The Dragon Cavalry]]: AbandonedByTheCavalry: [[spoiler: The Dragon Cavalry refuse to help the Prince because the Godwins are holding their eggs hostage. You can save the eggs, or you can hold out until Craig decides to [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome damn the torpedoes and help anyway.]]]]



* {{Badass}}: The beavers look ridiculous, cute and cuddly, which is probably the reason why the bad guys completely underestimate their importance in the river-covered Falena. Not only do the beavers have such good dam-building ability that they can transform the land through river-rerouting but they make terrifying naval shocktroopers, since they can swim out to enemy ships and bite holes in their hulls.
** They're also quite good in normal battles. They're faster than hell, multi-hit a LOT, 3 out of 5 of them are great magicians, all but one have the HP-restoring Bath skill, and the 5 of them have a powerful CombinationAttack that either instantly kills the target or just deals a crapload of damage.
** To put their naval capabilities in perspective, the battle system has a [[TacticalRockPaperScissors rock-paper-scissors]] type of unit balancing, so one type of boat is stronger than one other type but weaker to the other. Beaver units are [[GameBreaker strong against all types]]. In fact, just keep a healing unit handy and you can pretty much solo any water-terrain encounters with them. As the official guide book puts it, they turn the TacticalRockPaperScissors into "Beaver smashes rock, beaver shreds paper, beaver breaks scissors."



*** [[spoiler: Worth noting that his machinations during the Sacred Games were indirectly responsible for allowing the Prince to escape during the Coup. It also sows the seeds to make him a BadAss.]]

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*** [[spoiler: Worth noting that his machinations during the Sacred Games were indirectly responsible for allowing the Prince to escape during the Coup. It also sows the seeds to make him a BadAss.badass.]]
9th Jan '17 3:22:06 PM MoonlightBomber
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* BattleThemeMusic: When facing RandomEncounters, having certain characters in your active party would change the battle music. Having the conductor would change it to a stirring orchestral piece, having the rock star would invoke an ''Ys''-style heavy metal remix, and having the flutist would change it to a flute-heavy arrangement.
23rd Oct '16 5:35:28 AM MoonlightBomber
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* DesignStudentsOrgasm: In-universe: Haud Village was formed by artists commissioned by Salum Barows to design a town of their own. The result: a place chock full of abstract/surrealist artworks, music inspired by the likes of Arnold Schoenberg and Music/JohnCage, and citizens that talk like [[Franchise/StarWars Yoda]].



** Childerich is not at all suppposed to remind us of [[SuikodenII Luca Blight]], or more specifically, his sword arm-happiness. Though he lacks Luca's imposing build and [[RasputinianDeath isn't nearly as hard to kill]].
** Shoon looks a little like a [[SaintSeiya Seiya]].

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** Childerich is not at all suppposed supposed to remind us of [[SuikodenII [[VideoGame/SuikodenII Luca Blight]], or more specifically, his sword arm-happiness. Though he lacks Luca's imposing build and [[RasputinianDeath isn't nearly as hard to kill]].
** Shoon looks a little like a [[SaintSeiya [[Manga/SaintSeiya Seiya]].



* MythologyGag: The alternate outfits worn by the Prince, Lyon, and Kyle during certain sections of the plot are meant to invoke the outfits worn by [=McDohl=], Cleo, and Viktor in [[SuikodenI the original game]]. You also get to go to an [[SuikodenIV Island Nations]] city and fight a battle there with a remix of SuikodenIV's battle soundtrack. Not to mention the recurring characters.

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* MythologyGag: The alternate outfits worn by the Prince, Lyon, and Kyle during certain sections of the plot are meant to invoke the outfits worn by [=McDohl=], Cleo, and Viktor in [[SuikodenI the original game]]. You also get to go to an [[SuikodenIV [[VideoGame/SuikodenIV Island Nations]] city and fight a battle there with a remix of SuikodenIV's ''VideoGame/SuikodenIV'''s battle soundtrack. Not to mention the recurring characters.



* PrecisionGuidedBoomerang: Sialeeds and Sharmitsa's weapons come back despite the fact that their weapons are not boomerangs.

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* PrecisionGuidedBoomerang: Sialeeds and Sharmitsa's Sharmista's weapons come back despite the fact that their weapons are not boomerangs.



* RandomEncounter: Not quite high as in SuikodenIV, but still... Even in the very first dungeon, you won't leave it without at least ten random encounters while getting two mediocre treasures.

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* RandomEncounter: Not quite high as in SuikodenIV, VideoGame/SuikodenIV, but still... Even in the very first dungeon, you won't leave it without at least ten random encounters while getting two mediocre treasures.
18th Oct '16 2:46:03 AM MoonlightBomber
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* IncestSubtext: Miakis tells Lym that if the Prince wins, she'll have to marry him. Miakis has a really wild sense of humor. Then Lym attacks the Prince for winning his ''ceremonial'' match, out of fear that they'll have to marry. Third, in the best ending, the prince [[spoiler: becomes Commander of the Queen's Knights, a position normally reserved for the Queen's husband. [[note]] All the remaining knights were already working for him anyway, and as the rebel army's general, there was no better candidate at the time. [[/note]]


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* IncestSubtext: Miakis tells Lym that if the Prince wins, she'll have to marry him. Miakis has a really wild sense of humor. Then Lym attacks the Prince for winning his ''ceremonial'' match, out of fear that they'll have to marry. Third, in the best ending, the prince [[spoiler: becomes Commander of the Queen's Knights, a position normally reserved for the Queen's husband.]] [[note]] All the remaining knights were already working for him anyway, and as the rebel army's general, there was no better candidate at the time. This sends a message that the corrupt political system in Falena is changing. [[/note]]
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