History VideoGame / SuikodenII

8th Dec '17 6:24:24 PM Wyvernil
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* AwesomeButImpractical: You can recruit monster characters (including a griffin, an unicorn, and a kraken) into your army with the Listening Runes. Monsters have impressive stats and abilities, but are so large that they take up two character slots. In most cases using two regular characters will be more effective.
7th Dec '17 7:45:56 AM EnchantedCoalition
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* AintTooProudToBeg: The scared villagers of Ryube literally begs Luca for slaughtering them. Luca won’t listen to it.

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* AintTooProudToBeg: The scared villagers of Ryube literally begs Luca for slaughtering them.burning down the village. Luca won’t listen to it.
7th Dec '17 7:43:17 AM EnchantedCoalition
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* AintTooProudtoBeg: The scared villagers of Ryube literally begs Luca for slaughtering them. Luca won’t listen to it.

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* AintTooProudtoBeg: AintTooProudToBeg: The scared villagers of Ryube literally begs Luca for slaughtering them. Luca won’t listen to it.
7th Dec '17 7:43:00 AM EnchantedCoalition
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* Ain't Too Proud to Beg: The scared villagers of Ryube literally begs Luca for slaughtering them. Luca won’t listen to it.

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* Ain't Too Proud to Beg: AintTooProudtoBeg: The scared villagers of Ryube literally begs Luca for slaughtering them. Luca won’t listen to it.
7th Dec '17 7:42:41 AM EnchantedCoalition
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* Ain't Too Proud to Beg: The scared villagers of Ryube literally begs Luca for slaughtering them. Luca won’t listen to it.
4th Dec '17 1:56:07 PM RedScharlach
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** It's not just the text- entire pieces of music are missing. The [[RuleOfDrama especially dramatic ones]], like the battlefield theme and when Annalee sings. What should have been highlights in the game are rendered several minutes of unskippable, awkward silence.

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** It's not just the text- text -- entire pieces of music are missing. The [[RuleOfDrama especially dramatic ones]], like the battlefield theme and when Annalee sings. What should have been highlights in the game are rendered several minutes of unskippable, awkward silence.



** When defending Viktor's fort, initially, your army has a crushing advantage against the Highland's one, thanks to Tsai's flame spears, and you win the first army battle easily. However, the tables are turned immediatly during the second attack: the full forces of Luca's army are here, you are vastly outnumbered, and the flame spears stop working.

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** When defending Viktor's fort, initially, your army has a crushing advantage against the Highland's one, thanks to Tsai's flame spears, and you win the first army battle easily. However, the tables are turned immediatly immediately during the second attack: the full forces of Luca's army are here, you are vastly outnumbered, and the flame spears stop working.



** Your ambush of Luca's army seems to be this as first: Luca's unit is cornered by yours and Sasarai's troups are completly ''destroyed'' by Luc's True Wind rune. [[SubvertedTrope Then Luca gets angry and singlehandedly wounds half of your army]].
** The night ambush on Luca's troups by your army is mostly successful, allowing you to kill most of his men very easily. It should be a CurbStompBattle for your army against his. [[SubvertedTrope Well, that would be forgetting that Luca is figuratively a monster, who is perfectly able to mop the floor with your cadavers on his own]].

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** Your ambush of Luca's army seems to be this as first: Luca's unit is cornered by yours and Sasarai's troups troops are completly completely ''destroyed'' by Luc's True Wind rune. [[SubvertedTrope Then Luca gets angry and singlehandedly wounds half of your army]].
** The night ambush on Luca's troups troops by your army is mostly successful, allowing you to kill most of his men very easily. It should be a CurbStompBattle for your army against his. [[SubvertedTrope Well, that would be forgetting that Luca is figuratively a monster, who is perfectly able to mop the floor with your cadavers on his own]].



* PoisonMushroom: The consumable item Spinach Juice that can be gotten from killing a low level {{Mook}}. It heals 300 HP but it poisons you. It's inventory description says it causes "???". It actually poisons everyone who uses it. And you'd be constantly using healing items if you're in a place where you have to battle enemies that can dish out large damage to your characters. Given how poison damages your character even outside battles, this item would make things worse or better when given the right scenario.

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* PoisonMushroom: The consumable item Spinach Juice that can be gotten from killing a low level {{Mook}}. It heals 300 HP but it poisons you. It's Its inventory description says it causes "???". It actually poisons everyone who uses it. And you'd be constantly using healing items if you're in a place where you have to battle enemies that can dish out large damage to your characters. Given how poison damages your character even outside battles, this item would make things worse or better when given the right scenario.



* UnstoppableRage: When [[spoiler:Nanami is shot by Gorudo's men, Riou and Jowy immediatly forget that they were ready to fight eachother to death seconds prior, and team up against him]]. The music playing during this battle perfectly conveys their rightous fury (the track is not called ''Iron Fist of Anger'' for nothing), and on top of that [[spoiler:Jowy has now unlocked his Black Sword's final spell]], which you will be very happy to unleash against the bastard.

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* UnstoppableRage: When [[spoiler:Nanami is shot by Gorudo's men, Riou and Jowy immediatly immediately forget that they were ready to fight eachother to death seconds prior, and team up against him]]. The music playing during this battle perfectly conveys their rightous fury (the track is not called ''Iron Fist of Anger'' for nothing), and on top of that [[spoiler:Jowy has now unlocked his Black Sword's final spell]], which you will be very happy to unleash against the bastard.
12th Oct '17 7:56:56 AM InfernoOmega
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* CognizantLimbs: The FinalBoss has these, with a Rune, two heads and two legs, which all attack the party in different ways. Only the Rune and the heads need to be taken out to win, though.


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* FlunkyBoss: Luca Blight and his [[EliteMooks White Wolves]], Lucia and her Karayans and [[spoiler:Gorudo and his Matilda Knights]].
16th Aug '17 6:40:24 AM WaterBlap
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* TheDevTeamThinksOfEverything: If the GenreSavvy player tries removing [[spoiler:Nanami's]] equipment before [[spoiler:she gets killed at Rockaxe, they'll find that she won't survive unless her defense is at a certain level.]] No GoldenEnding for you!

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* TheDevTeamThinksOfEverything: DevelopersForesight:
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If the GenreSavvy player tries removing [[spoiler:Nanami's]] equipment before [[spoiler:she gets killed at Rockaxe, they'll find that she won't survive unless her defense is at a certain level.]] No GoldenEnding for you!
9th Jul '17 4:20:27 AM DivineDeath
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* GrayAndGreyMorality: The game starts out with BlackAndGreyMorality, with Highland being unarguably evil under the leadership of Luca Blight, while the leaders of the Jowston City-States range from well-meaning but inept at best, to downright corrupt at worst. The grayness kicks in once [[spoiler:Luca is killed. From that point on, Highland is run by more sympathetic and well-intentioned people, most notably the protagonist's friend Jowy, who see no reason to make peace with the still weakened and divided City-States, ''and'' have to quell the now awakened Beast Rune.]]
22nd Apr '17 5:07:45 PM nombretomado
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* CallBack: You could make a page out of it due to being a direct sequel to ''{{VideoGame/SuikodenI}}''.

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* CallBack: You could make a page out of it due to being a direct sequel to ''{{VideoGame/SuikodenI}}''.''{{VideoGame/Suikoden|I}}''.



* InformedAbility: On paper, Leon Silverberg is the greatest strategist in the series but from what we see in the actual game, he can't hold a candle to Shu, let alone [[SuikodenV Lucretia Merces]] or [[SuikodenIII Albert Silverberg]]. He does, however, acknowledge that his reputation is overblown, and that he's past his prime.

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* InformedAbility: On paper, Leon Silverberg is the greatest strategist in the series but from what we see in the actual game, he can't hold a candle to Shu, let alone [[SuikodenV [[VideoGame/SuikodenV Lucretia Merces]] or [[SuikodenIII [[VideoGame/SuikodenIII Albert Silverberg]]. He does, however, acknowledge that his reputation is overblown, and that he's past his prime.



** Both the Grasslands and the Holy Kingdom of Harmonia serve as major factions in ''SuikodenIII''.
** Shu makes the protagonists find a coin he used to trade with the Island Nations, the setting for ''SuikodenIV''.
** Georg Prime, a seemingly random character with an interesting history revealed by Richmond was used as the plot for ''SuikodenV''.

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** Both the Grasslands and the Holy Kingdom of Harmonia serve as major factions in ''SuikodenIII''.
''VideoGame/SuikodenIII''.
** Shu makes the protagonists find a coin he used to trade with the Island Nations, the setting for ''SuikodenIV''.
''VideoGame/SuikodenIV''.
** Georg Prime, a seemingly random character with an interesting history revealed by Richmond was used as the plot for ''SuikodenV''.''VideoGame/SuikodenV''.
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