History VideoGame / SuikodenII

22nd Apr '17 5:07:45 PM nombretomado
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* CallBack: You could make a page out of it due to being a direct sequel to ''{{VideoGame/SuikodenI}}''.

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* CallBack: You could make a page out of it due to being a direct sequel to ''{{VideoGame/SuikodenI}}''.''{{VideoGame/Suikoden|I}}''.



* InformedAbility: On paper, Leon Silverberg is the greatest strategist in the series but from what we see in the actual game, he can't hold a candle to Shu, let alone [[SuikodenV Lucretia Merces]] or [[SuikodenIII Albert Silverberg]]. He does, however, acknowledge that his reputation is overblown, and that he's past his prime.

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* InformedAbility: On paper, Leon Silverberg is the greatest strategist in the series but from what we see in the actual game, he can't hold a candle to Shu, let alone [[SuikodenV [[VideoGame/SuikodenV Lucretia Merces]] or [[SuikodenIII [[VideoGame/SuikodenIII Albert Silverberg]]. He does, however, acknowledge that his reputation is overblown, and that he's past his prime.



** Both the Grasslands and the Holy Kingdom of Harmonia serve as major factions in ''SuikodenIII''.
** Shu makes the protagonists find a coin he used to trade with the Island Nations, the setting for ''SuikodenIV''.
** Georg Prime, a seemingly random character with an interesting history revealed by Richmond was used as the plot for ''SuikodenV''.

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** Both the Grasslands and the Holy Kingdom of Harmonia serve as major factions in ''SuikodenIII''.
''VideoGame/SuikodenIII''.
** Shu makes the protagonists find a coin he used to trade with the Island Nations, the setting for ''SuikodenIV''.
''VideoGame/SuikodenIV''.
** Georg Prime, a seemingly random character with an interesting history revealed by Richmond was used as the plot for ''SuikodenV''.''VideoGame/SuikodenV''.
7th Mar '17 4:07:39 AM Wyvernil
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** In the battle where Ridley's unit gets ambushed, it's possible for him to escape if the RNG is in your favor and he gets a bunch of critical attacks. The plot changes slightly to account for this if it happens.
21st Jan '17 4:08:32 AM Morgenthaler
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[[TimeSkip Three years]] after the events of the [[SuikodenI original game]], the nation of Jowston has just signed a ceasefire with the Highland Kingdom. The protagonist, an orphan adopted by the late hero Genkaku, has just joined the army alongside his best friend Jowy. However, they fall afoul of one of the most twisted examples of a FalseFlagOperation ever attempted, courtesy of Luca Blight. Barely escaping this fate, they soon find themselves saddling with the two halves of the [[EmpathicWeapon Rune of the Beginning]], the [[CastingAShadow Black]] [[StormOfBlades Sword]] [[PowerOfTheVoid Rune]] and the [[LightTheWay Bright]] [[WhiteMagic Shield]] [[HolyHandGrenade Rune]]. From there, their paths split, as the protagonist takes the [[LaResistance traditional hero's route]] and Jowy sets out to break the system from within, setting the stage for a war where both sides fight for the exact same goal.

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[[TimeSkip Three years]] after the events of the [[SuikodenI [[VideoGame/SuikodenI original game]], the nation of Jowston has just signed a ceasefire with the Highland Kingdom. The protagonist, an orphan adopted by the late hero Genkaku, has just joined the army alongside his best friend Jowy. However, they fall afoul of one of the most twisted examples of a FalseFlagOperation ever attempted, courtesy of Luca Blight. Barely escaping this fate, they soon find themselves saddling with the two halves of the [[EmpathicWeapon Rune of the Beginning]], the [[CastingAShadow Black]] [[StormOfBlades Sword]] [[PowerOfTheVoid Rune]] and the [[LightTheWay Bright]] [[WhiteMagic Shield]] [[HolyHandGrenade Rune]]. From there, their paths split, as the protagonist takes the [[LaResistance traditional hero's route]] and Jowy sets out to break the system from within, setting the stage for a war where both sides fight for the exact same goal.
21st Jan '17 4:07:37 AM Morgenthaler
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''SuikodenII'' takes the themes established in the first game and weaves a far more complex plot around them, with heavy doses of GreyAndGrayMorality thrown into the mix. Add in plenty of [[ContinuityNod Continuity Nods]], the return of several [[EnsembleDarkhorse fan favorites]] and a liberal dose of [[PlayerPunch Player Punches]] and you've got a game which is still considered the high point of the series by much of the fandom.

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''SuikodenII'' ''Suikoden II'' takes the themes established in the first game and weaves a far more complex plot around them, with heavy doses of GreyAndGrayMorality thrown into the mix. Add in plenty of [[ContinuityNod Continuity Nods]], the return of several [[EnsembleDarkhorse fan favorites]] and a liberal dose of [[PlayerPunch Player Punches]] and you've got a game which is still considered the high point of the series by much of the fandom.



!!SuikodenII provides examples of:

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!!SuikodenII !!Suikoden II provides examples of:
17th Jan '17 6:58:27 PM DustSnitch
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* BadAss: Luca Blight again. It takes eighteen of your party members, combined fire from several companies of archers, and a one-on-one duel with the hero to finally kill him (in which he can perfectly kill you easily, despite being reduce to 1/3 of his health, if you choose the wrong options - and unlike most duels in the game, his sentences are incredibly cryptic, giving you no clue of what moves he will actually do).



* GameplayAndStorySegregation: Recruiting Oulan requires the hero being knocked away by some thugs (though this is via surprise attack) and the ladies in his entourage getting grabbed to be taken to custody. This is forgetting that these ladies can range from a {{Badass}} foreign country general to a powerful immortal vampire mistress, they need to act vulnerable a bit so Oulan can save the day.

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* GameplayAndStorySegregation: Recruiting Oulan requires the hero being knocked away by some thugs (though this is via surprise attack) and the ladies in his entourage getting grabbed to be taken to custody. This is forgetting that these ladies can range from a {{Badass}} badass foreign country general to a powerful immortal vampire mistress, they need to act vulnerable a bit so Oulan can save the day.
8th Sep '16 9:10:43 AM ChrisX
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* TheCaligula: Luca Blight is the god of the trope.

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* TheCaligula: Luca Blight is the god of the trope.Blight... ''seriously'' exemplified this trope. Simply put, he's such a batshit crazy evil prince-later-king to a very much Godlike levels.
15th Jul '16 12:44:52 PM KamenRiderOokalf
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* ShoutOut: There's a row of five flowerpots near the entrance of Greenhill. Examining four of them will give the description 'Dahlias'. The second one from the right, on the other hand, says 'Dahlia Gillespie', a reference to [[SilentHill another Konami series.]]

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* ShoutOut: There's a row of five flowerpots near the entrance of Greenhill. Examining four of them will give the description 'Dahlias'. The second one from the right, on the other hand, says 'Dahlia Gillespie', a reference to [[SilentHill [[VideoGame/SilentHill1 another Konami series.game.]]
21st May '16 3:14:35 PM DivineDeath
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** The Holy Kingdom of Harmonia serves as a major faction in ''SuikodenIII''.

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** The Both the Grasslands and the Holy Kingdom of Harmonia serves serve as a major faction factions in ''SuikodenIII''.
4th Apr '16 1:46:11 PM Petrograd
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* Not the Intended Use: The "Matilda Glitch"; A section of the wall between the Muse and Matilda border has accidentally been flagged movable. By pushing it aside, the Knightdom of Matilda can be accessed early in the game. Inside, a sidequest can be completed, two high level characters can be recruited, and the entire party can be levelled from around level 15 to levels in the 30s.
4th Apr '16 12:18:08 PM Petrograd
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* Not the Intended Use: The "Matilda Glitch"; A section of the wall between the Muse and Matilda border has accidentally been flagged movable. By pushing it aside, the Knightdom of Matilda can be accessed early in the game. Inside, a sidequest can be completed, two high level characters can be recruited, and the entire party can be levelled from around level 15 to levels in the 30s.
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