History VideoGame / Suikoden

31st Oct '17 8:12:33 PM ChrisX
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Following Konami's decision to no longer make AAA games and focus on the mobile market (along with several other decisions which earned them the ire of players), the future of the series is looking bleak (if not outright nonexistent), leaving many fans disillusioned. To some, however, even before Konami's infamous debacle, they have considered Suikoden being dead since [[FranchiseKiller Tierkreis and Woven Web of A Century]] for doing away with the extensive world-building of the 27 True Runes that was established with the first 5 mainline games and going for an AlternateUniverse, made worse that they have lost the original writer of the saga since the second game, [[MyRealDaddy Yoshitaka Murayama.]]

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Following Konami's decision to no longer make AAA games and focus on the mobile market (along with several other decisions which earned them the ire of players), the future of the series is looking bleak (if not outright nonexistent), leaving many fans disillusioned. To some, however, even before Konami's infamous debacle, they have considered Suikoden being dead since [[FranchiseKiller Tierkreis and Woven Web of A Century]] for doing away with the extensive world-building of the 27 True Runes that was established with the first 5 mainline games and going for an AlternateUniverse, made worse that with how they have lost the original writer of the saga since the second game, [[MyRealDaddy Yoshitaka Murayama.]]
31st Oct '17 8:11:38 PM ChrisX
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Following Konami's decision to no longer make AAA games and focus on the mobile market (along with several other decisions which earned them the ire of players), the future of the series is looking bleak (if not outright nonexistent), leaving many fans disillusioned.

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Following Konami's decision to no longer make AAA games and focus on the mobile market (along with several other decisions which earned them the ire of players), the future of the series is looking bleak (if not outright nonexistent), leaving many fans disillusioned.
disillusioned. To some, however, even before Konami's infamous debacle, they have considered Suikoden being dead since [[FranchiseKiller Tierkreis and Woven Web of A Century]] for doing away with the extensive world-building of the 27 True Runes that was established with the first 5 mainline games and going for an AlternateUniverse, made worse that they have lost the original writer of the saga since the second game, [[MyRealDaddy Yoshitaka Murayama.]]
16th Oct '17 8:59:45 PM EnchantedCoalition
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* AxCrazy: Luca Blight from ''VideoGame/SuikodenII'' loves to slaughter and destroy - soldiers, villages, small children - and he does it with a [[SlasherSmile smile]]. As well as his {{Expy}} in ''Suikoden V'', Childerich.

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* AxCrazy: Luca Blight from ''VideoGame/SuikodenII'' loves to slaughter and destroy - soldiers, villages, small children - and he does it with a [[{{Sadist}} very sadistic]] [[SlasherSmile smile]]. As well as his {{Expy}} in ''Suikoden V'', Childerich.
31st Aug '17 3:42:53 AM Doug86
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** [[SuikodenI In the first game]]: [[TheLeader Tir]], [[TheLancer Ted]], [[TheSmartGuy Gremio]], [[TheBigGuy Pahn and Victor]], and [[TheChick Cleo]].

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** [[SuikodenI [[VideoGame/SuikodenI In the first game]]: [[TheLeader Tir]], [[TheLancer Ted]], [[TheSmartGuy Gremio]], [[TheBigGuy Pahn and Victor]], and [[TheChick Cleo]].



** Almost all the heroes are {{Lightning Bruiser}}s, but among them [[SuikodenI Tir McDohl]] and [[VideoGame/SuikodenII Riou]] stand out. [[VideoGame/SuikodenIII Hugo]] can be best described as the FragileSpeedster among the heroes, [[VideoGame/SuikodenV Freyjadour Falenas]] the [[JackOfAllStats Jacks of All Stats]], [[VideoGame/SuikodenIII Thomas]] the LethalJokeCharacter, [[VideoGame/SuikodenIII Geddoe]] the MagicKnight, [[VideoGame/SuikodenIII Chris Lightfellow]] the {{Mighty Glacier}} and [[VideoGame/SuikodenIV Lazlo]][[spoiler: En Kuldes]] the {{Glacier Waif}}.

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** Almost all the heroes are {{Lightning Bruiser}}s, but among them [[SuikodenI [[VideoGame/SuikodenI Tir McDohl]] and [[VideoGame/SuikodenII Riou]] stand out. [[VideoGame/SuikodenIII Hugo]] can be best described as the FragileSpeedster among the heroes, [[VideoGame/SuikodenV Freyjadour Falenas]] the [[JackOfAllStats Jacks of All Stats]], [[VideoGame/SuikodenIII Thomas]] the LethalJokeCharacter, [[VideoGame/SuikodenIII Geddoe]] the MagicKnight, [[VideoGame/SuikodenIII Chris Lightfellow]] the {{Mighty Glacier}} and [[VideoGame/SuikodenIV Lazlo]][[spoiler: En Kuldes]] the {{Glacier Waif}}.
22nd Apr '17 5:30:01 PM nombretomado
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%% * FriendlySniper: Cathari in ''{{Suikoden V}}''.

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%% * FriendlySniper: Cathari in ''{{Suikoden ''VideoGame/{{Suikoden V}}''.
22nd Apr '17 4:54:35 PM nombretomado
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** VideoGame/ SuikodenIII has the Zexen Knights and Geddoe's Mercenary group.

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** VideoGame/ SuikodenIII VideoGame/SuikodenIII has the Zexen Knights and Geddoe's Mercenary group.



*** ''ComicBook/{{Shazam}}!'' -Courtesy of Viki in {{Suikoden II}}

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*** ''ComicBook/{{Shazam}}!'' -Courtesy of Viki in {{Suikoden VideoGame/{{Suikoden II}}
22nd Apr '17 4:49:22 PM nombretomado
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[-[[caption-width-right:300:An artwork featuring the main heroes of the franchise, before 2004's ''SuikodenIV''.]]-]

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[-[[caption-width-right:300:An artwork featuring the main heroes of the franchise, before 2004's ''SuikodenIV''.''VideoGame/SuikodenIV''.]]-]



* AxCrazy: Luca Blight from ''SuikodenII'' loves to slaughter and destroy - soldiers, villages, small children - and he does it with a [[SlasherSmile smile]]. As well as his {{Expy}} in ''Suikoden V'', Childerich.

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* AxCrazy: Luca Blight from ''SuikodenII'' ''VideoGame/SuikodenII'' loves to slaughter and destroy - soldiers, villages, small children - and he does it with a [[SlasherSmile smile]]. As well as his {{Expy}} in ''Suikoden V'', Childerich.



** Also, the Falenan royal family in ''SuikodenV'' before Arshtat becomes the Queen.

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** Also, the Falenan royal family in ''SuikodenV'' ''VideoGame/SuikodenV'' before Arshtat becomes the Queen.



* ChefOfIron: Many throughout the series, Hai Yo of ''SuikodenII'' being a more notable example.

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* ChefOfIron: Many throughout the series, Hai Yo of ''SuikodenII'' ''VideoGame/SuikodenII'' being a more notable example.



* ChildByRape: Jillia, the princess of Highland from SuikodenII.

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* ChildByRape: Jillia, the princess of Highland from SuikodenII.''VideoGame/SuikodenII''.



%% * CombatMedic: [[SuikodenII Riou]] and [[SuikodenV the Prince of Falena]].

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%% * CombatMedic: [[SuikodenII [[VideoGame/SuikodenII Riou]] and [[SuikodenV [[VideoGame/SuikodenV the Prince of Falena]].



** After the 3rd game this happens much less, with SuikodenTierkreis having ZERO continuity nods to previous games.

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** After the 3rd game this happens much less, with SuikodenTierkreis VideoGame/SuikodenTierkreis having ZERO continuity nods to previous games.



** Cleo to Tir in the [[SuikodenI first game]]
** Nanami to Riou in the [[SuikodenII second game]]
** Chris to Louis in SuikodenIII
** Seneca to Kyril in SuikodenTactics
** Sialeeds to Frey in SuikodenV even though they're aunt and nephew.

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** Cleo to Tir in the [[SuikodenI [[VideoGame/SuikodenI first game]]
** Nanami to Riou in the [[SuikodenII [[VideoGame/SuikodenII second game]]
** Chris to Louis in SuikodenIII
VideoGame/SuikodenIII
** Seneca to Kyril in SuikodenTactics
VideoGame/SuikodenTactics
** Sialeeds to Frey in SuikodenV VideoGame/SuikodenV even though they're aunt and nephew.



** SuikodenIII has the Zexen Knights and Geddoe's Mercenary group.
** [[SuikodenV In the fifth game at the prologue]]: [[TheLeader The Prince]], [[TheLancer Lyon]], [[TheBigGuy Georg Prime]], and [[TheChick Sialeeds]].

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** **VideoGame/ SuikodenIII has the Zexen Knights and Geddoe's Mercenary group.
** [[SuikodenV [[VideoGame/SuikodenV In the fifth game at the prologue]]: [[TheLeader The Prince]], [[TheLancer Lyon]], [[TheBigGuy Georg Prime]], and [[TheChick Sialeeds]].



%% * HeroAntagonist: Jowy in SuikodenII

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%% * HeroAntagonist: Jowy in SuikodenIIVideoGame/SuikodenII



** Almost all the heroes are {{Lightning Bruiser}}s, but among them [[SuikodenI Tir McDohl]] and [[SuikodenII Riou]] stand out. [[SuikodenIII Hugo]] can be best described as the FragileSpeedster among the heroes, [[SuikodenV Freyjadour Falenas]] the [[JackOfAllStats Jacks of All Stats]], [[SuikodenIII Thomas]] the LethalJokeCharacter, [[SuikodenIII Geddoe]] the MagicKnight, [[SuikodenIII Chris Lightfellow]] the {{Mighty Glacier}} and [[SuikodenIV Lazlo]][[spoiler: En Kuldes]] the {{Glacier Waif}}.

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** Almost all the heroes are {{Lightning Bruiser}}s, but among them [[SuikodenI Tir McDohl]] and [[SuikodenII [[VideoGame/SuikodenII Riou]] stand out. [[SuikodenIII [[VideoGame/SuikodenIII Hugo]] can be best described as the FragileSpeedster among the heroes, [[SuikodenV [[VideoGame/SuikodenV Freyjadour Falenas]] the [[JackOfAllStats Jacks of All Stats]], [[SuikodenIII [[VideoGame/SuikodenIII Thomas]] the LethalJokeCharacter, [[SuikodenIII [[VideoGame/SuikodenIII Geddoe]] the MagicKnight, [[SuikodenIII [[VideoGame/SuikodenIII Chris Lightfellow]] the {{Mighty Glacier}} and [[SuikodenIV [[VideoGame/SuikodenIV Lazlo]][[spoiler: En Kuldes]] the {{Glacier Waif}}.



** In Suikoden I, virtually all of the enemy generals are this, even stating their allegiance to the emperor even as they change sides.
** SuikodenII sees this in the form of the general Kiba and tactician Klaus who love their country and pretty much takes a villain to the degree of [[TheCaligula Luca Blight]] to have them even consider.

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** In Suikoden I, VideoGame/SuikodenI, virtually all of the enemy generals are this, even stating their allegiance to the emperor even as they change sides.
** SuikodenII SVideoGame/uikodenII sees this in the form of the general Kiba and tactician Klaus who love their country and pretty much takes a villain to the degree of [[TheCaligula Luca Blight]] to have them even consider.



** SuikodenIII has its entire plot based on this trope. No country is right or wrong in its entirety, but several leaders (Chris and Sasarai) go along with orders despite their own misgivings.
** Troy from SuikodenIV was this to such an extent that fans complained at the lack of a HeelFaceTurn.

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** SuikodenIII VideoGame/SuikodenIII has its entire plot based on this trope. No country is right or wrong in its entirety, but several leaders (Chris and Sasarai) go along with orders despite their own misgivings.
** Troy from SuikodenIV VideoGame/SuikodenIV was this to such an extent that fans complained at the lack of a HeelFaceTurn.



* SwordAndSorcerer: Type 1 examples are [[SuikodenI Hix]] and [[SuikodenII Tengaar]], and [[SuikodenI Lepant and Eileen]].

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* SwordAndSorcerer: Type 1 examples are [[SuikodenI [[VideoGame/SuikodenI Hix]] and [[SuikodenII [[VideoGame/SuikodenII Tengaar]], and [[SuikodenI [[VideoGame/SuikodenI Lepant and Eileen]].
12th Apr '17 10:11:38 AM jake38
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** Tir and Riou became pretty canon through the Drama CD though.
2nd Apr '17 3:08:41 PM nombretomado
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** Actually, those names aren't canon either - Konami has explicitly noted this; those names were provided by novelizations and manga (not unlike the name given to the unnamed main character of Persona3)

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** Actually, those names aren't canon either - Konami has explicitly noted this; those names were provided by novelizations and manga (not unlike the name given to the unnamed main character of Persona3)''VideoGame/Persona3'')
17th Mar '17 10:51:54 AM jake38
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