History VideoGame / ShinMegamiTenseiStrangeJourney

8th Feb '16 1:19:54 AM WillBGood
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* TechnoBabble: In the form of both ReversePolarity and ScotchTape.

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* TechnoBabble: In the form of both ReversePolarity and ScotchTape.{{Hand Wav|e}}ing.
19th Jan '16 10:03:14 PM aye_amber
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-> ''> The Main Mission '''[[BrickJoke Visit Unabridged Version]]''' has been completed.''
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-> ''> ->''> The Main Mission '''[[BrickJoke Visit Unabridged Version]]''' has been completed.''
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19th Jan '16 11:30:02 AM Willbyr
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* CastFromHitPoints: Averted! Unlike most previous Megaten games released in the past ten or so years, physical attacks in Strange Journey run off of MP, not HP. Though this means that your physical attackers won't kill themselves by punching the enemy, it also means they might not be able to do their special moves too often before you need to hit them with a Chakra Drop.

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* CastFromHitPoints: Averted! Unlike most previous Megaten [=MegaTen=] games released in the past ten or so years, physical attacks in Strange Journey run off of MP, not HP. Though this means that your physical attackers won't kill themselves by punching the enemy, it also means they might not be able to do their special moves too often before you need to hit them with a Chakra Drop.



** The "recipe" for fusing Shiva should be old hat to Megaten veterans, Barong + Rangda.

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** The "recipe" for fusing Shiva should be old hat to Megaten [=MegaTen=] veterans, Barong + Rangda.



* CreepyChild: Wouldn't be a Megaten game without Alice. Doesn't looking at her skinning, salting and devouring a living rabbit make you want to [[SignatureMove Die For Her?]]

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* CreepyChild: Wouldn't be a Megaten [=MegaTen=] game without Alice. Doesn't looking at her skinning, salting and devouring a living rabbit make you want to [[SignatureMove Die For Her?]]



* GlassCannon: Asura can kill you like a traditional MegaTen boss can, but will go down quickly if you can avoid that.

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* GlassCannon: Asura can kill you like a traditional MegaTen [=MegaTen=] boss can, but will go down quickly if you can avoid that.



** Some demons will ask you what your favorite kind of video game is, and if you answer that you prefer the old classics, some will get angry at you for being stuck in the past and ask if you're sure there isn't ''anything'' about the new ones you like. Given the debate over "old-school" vs. "new-school" Megaten games...

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** Some demons will ask you what your favorite kind of video game is, and if you answer that you prefer the old classics, some will get angry at you for being stuck in the past and ask if you're sure there isn't ''anything'' about the new ones you like. Given the debate over "old-school" vs. "new-school" Megaten [=MegaTen=] games...



* {{Magitek}}: As with many other MegaTen series entries, you are able to communicate with and control demons thanks to the use of computers. Your "magic" in this game is also limited to the kinds of guns you equip yourself with (which actually uses the physical skill) and expendable items that mimic spells (that actually use your magic stats), but given that they are constructed [[MetaphysicalFuel out of the leftovers of demons]] combined with human science, they probably ARE shooting magic bullets.

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* {{Magitek}}: As with many other MegaTen [=MegaTen=] series entries, you are able to communicate with and control demons thanks to the use of computers. Your "magic" in this game is also limited to the kinds of guns you equip yourself with (which actually uses the physical skill) and expendable items that mimic spells (that actually use your magic stats), but given that they are constructed [[MetaphysicalFuel out of the leftovers of demons]] combined with human science, they probably ARE shooting magic bullets.



* OrderVersusChaos: An important part of the basic gameplay; demons are either Lawful, Chaotic, or Neutral and this affects how well they co-operate with you and each other. Order and Chaos have battled in many previous MegaTen games (there's even a ShoutOut to it in ''VideoGame/DigitalDevilSaga 2'' with the division of the Karma Society) but it's been a long time since it had such an overt impact on the gameplay. [[spoiler: Given Ouroboros's condemning humans as "prisoners of matter" and "sinful clumps of matter", and her spin on Morax and Asura's claim that humans must be reborn as demons being that humans must be returned to disparate atoms and molecules drifting in space, there may also be a (Dead/Inert) Matter Versus (Living/Free) Energy/Spirit dynamic at work.]]

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* OrderVersusChaos: An important part of the basic gameplay; demons are either Lawful, Chaotic, or Neutral and this affects how well they co-operate with you and each other. Order and Chaos have battled in many previous MegaTen [=MegaTen=] games (there's even a ShoutOut to it in ''VideoGame/DigitalDevilSaga 2'' with the division of the Karma Society) but it's been a long time since it had such an overt impact on the gameplay. [[spoiler: Given Ouroboros's condemning humans as "prisoners of matter" and "sinful clumps of matter", and her spin on Morax and Asura's claim that humans must be reborn as demons being that humans must be returned to disparate atoms and molecules drifting in space, there may also be a (Dead/Inert) Matter Versus (Living/Free) Energy/Spirit dynamic at work.]]



* SuspiciousVideoGameGenerosity: Uncharacteristically for a mainline ''[[ShinMegamiTensei Megaten]]'' game, you'll find Terminals (Save Points that can teleport you back to home base) relatively near Sector bosses, and often with a Fountain of Healing nearby. The Demonica is even generous enough to advise you when you're getting near "a powerful demon," even those that [[spoiler:lay hidden in ambush in Sector F, who are nice enough to camp out right ''after'' Terminals and Fountains]].

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* SuspiciousVideoGameGenerosity: Uncharacteristically for a mainline ''[[ShinMegamiTensei Megaten]]'' [=MegaTen=] game, you'll find Terminals (Save Points that can teleport you back to home base) relatively near Sector bosses, and often with a Fountain of Healing nearby. The Demonica is even generous enough to advise you when you're getting near "a powerful demon," even those that [[spoiler:lay hidden in ambush in Sector F, who are nice enough to camp out right ''after'' Terminals and Fountains]].



* WeCannotGoOnWithoutYou: In the same vein as recent MegaTen games. Protagonist dies, Schwarzwelt swallows Earth, game over. He is the only thing that is tying those demons down and once he kicks it, there is nothing stopping the demons from calling it quits right then and there and just ditching your dead body to the enemy, even if they are on the lawful side of the spectrum.

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* WeCannotGoOnWithoutYou: In the same vein as recent MegaTen [=MegaTen=] games. Protagonist dies, Schwarzwelt swallows Earth, game over. He is the only thing that is tying those demons down and once he kicks it, there is nothing stopping the demons from calling it quits right then and there and just ditching your dead body to the enemy, even if they are on the lawful side of the spectrum.



* WeirdMoon: As another [[ShinMegamiTensei MegaTen]] tradition, during a Full Moon, demons are too deranged to negotiate with you. However, this time you can install a Sub Application in the Demonica that allows successful negotiations during Full Moons, even with otherwise unrecruitable Dark demons. Unfortunately, they're still drunk on [[IncrediblyLamePun moonshine]], so whether or not they like what you have to say is pretty much a coin flip.

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* WeirdMoon: As another [[ShinMegamiTensei MegaTen]] [=MegaTen=] tradition, during a Full Moon, demons are too deranged to negotiate with you. However, this time you can install a Sub Application in the Demonica that allows successful negotiations during Full Moons, even with otherwise unrecruitable Dark demons. Unfortunately, they're still drunk on [[IncrediblyLamePun moonshine]], so whether or not they like what you have to say is pretty much a coin flip.
2nd Jan '16 6:08:04 PM BillyMT
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* NothingCanStopUsNow: Some of the strike force are this way after you C4 a boulder blocking the way to a wrecked ship, as though ''this'' is evidence that the Schwarzwelt's denizens can't stand up to them. Cue CurbStompBattle from an Orias legionary. A ''much weaker than usual'' Orias legionary (they usually start out at L27. This one's at L7.).

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* NothingCanStopUsNow: Some of the strike force are this way after you C4 a boulder blocking the way to a wrecked ship, as though ''this'' is evidence that the Schwarzwelt's denizens can't stand up to them. Cue CurbStompBattle from an Orias legionary. A ''much weaker than usual'' Orias legionary (they usually start out at L27. Lv.27. This one's at L7.).Lv.7).
2nd Jan '16 3:22:23 PM BillyMT
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** They are, however, very cool. You can summon Demonicas of each alignment for an [[HumanityIsSuperior all-human]] ([[AmbiguouslyHuman well, sorta]]) party! Or [[http://www.gamespot.com/shin-megami-tensei-strange-journey/forum/passwords-for-bosses-spoilers-54434254/ use special passwords]] to even use the co-protagonists in battle!

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** [[http://smtsj.wikidot.com/demonplaza/ They are, however, very cool. cool.]] You can summon Demonicas of each alignment for an [[HumanityIsSuperior all-human]] ([[AmbiguouslyHuman well, sorta]]) party! Or [[http://www.gamespot.com/shin-megami-tensei-strange-journey/forum/passwords-for-bosses-spoilers-54434254/ use special passwords]] passwords to even use the co-protagonists in battle!
11th Dec '15 9:38:01 PM HamburgerTime
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* HeelFaceTurn: [[spoiler:Ryan, after Captain Jack's death.]]

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* HeelFaceTurn: [[spoiler:Ryan, HateSink: Captain Jack, who exists to put a face on the sort of human {{greed}} and [[MoralEventHorizon depravity]] that summoned the Schwartzwelt to begin with.
* HeelFaceBrainwashing: [[spoiler:Ryan and his men,
after Captain Jack's death.]]
12th Nov '15 4:20:30 PM Ryusui
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[[caption-width-right:350:[-[[SuperSoldier "You see before you the state-of-the-art demon fighter of tomorrow.]] [[DungeonCrawling This multidirectional, unitized,]] [[GameBreaker high-tech fighting machine]] [[OurMonstersAreWeird is salt-free, tuna-safe]] [[PowersAsPrograms and comes complete with 15 megabytes]] [[AppliedPhlebotinum of double-density, wafer-thin alloy]] [[{{Technobabble}} forming a virtual reality]] [[OneManArmy of modern demon extermination...]] [[Franchise/ShinMegamiTensei need I say more?"]]]]-]

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[[caption-width-right:350:[-[[SuperSoldier "You see before you the state-of-the-art demon fighter of tomorrow.]] [[DungeonCrawling This multidirectional, unitized,]] [[GameBreaker [[PoweredArmor high-tech fighting machine]] [[OurMonstersAreWeird is salt-free, tuna-safe]] [[PowersAsPrograms and comes complete with 15 megabytes]] [[AppliedPhlebotinum of double-density, wafer-thin alloy]] [[{{Technobabble}} forming a virtual reality]] [[OneManArmy of modern demon extermination...]] [[Franchise/ShinMegamiTensei need I say more?"]]]]-]
16th Oct '15 6:22:11 AM LucaEarlgrey
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* CallAHitPointASmeerp: What would be called an item shop in other [=RPGs=] is instead called a fabrication lab. You can spend Macca--the franchise's staple currency and energy source--to ''manufacture'' (i.e. buy) items, and ''dispose'' (i.e. sell) items to get some Macca out of them.

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* CallAHitPointASmeerp: What would be called an item shop in other [=RPGs=] is instead called a fabrication lab. You can spend Macca--the franchise's staple currency and energy source--to ''manufacture'' (i.e. buy) items, and ''dispose'' (i.e. sell) items to get some Macca out of them. This explains why there's NoHeroDiscount; the ''Red Sprite'' needs the Macca to offset the energy used to produce goods for its crew.
28th Aug '15 7:31:20 AM MorningStar1337
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** They also appear to be forms of data or thoughtAs blue squares are the form invisible demons [[spoiler: and the demons in Grus after being affected by Zenelin's song]] take.

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** They also appear to be forms of data or thoughtAs thought. As blue squares are the form invisible demons [[spoiler: and the demons in Grus after being affected by Zenelin's song]] take.
27th Aug '15 4:31:18 PM MorningStar1337
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** [[spoiler: Within ''that'' hellgate lies Orcus who is redesigned as this in reference to his roots as an emissary to Hell. He still uses the older look though, as Horkos, Carina's end boss]]



* HolierThanThou: Even mentioned by Jimenez

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* HolierThanThou: Even mentioned by JimenezJimenez, [[spoiler: regarding Zelelin after her transformation]]



* [[HumansThroughAlienEyes Humans Through Demon Eyes]]: And like the above, this is particularly evident in the Negotiation sequences.
* HumansAreWarriors: Quite a few demons will end up being impressed by the strength the humans hold, particularly yours, as the main character. Also, [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKhE56vOidI Morale]] is a song mostly attributed to the humans, and it's a triumphant military theme.

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* [[HumansThroughAlienEyes Humans Through Demon Eyes]]: HumansThroughAlienEyes: And like the above, this is particularly evident in the Negotiation sequences.
* HumansAreWarriors: Quite a few demons will end up being impressed by the strength the humans hold, particularly yours, as the main character. Also, [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKhE56vOidI Morale]] is a song mostly attributed to the humans, and it's a triumphant military theme. On the other hand, Antlia is an embodiment of the dark side of this trope and it's leader, Morax wants to imitate Humanity because of this.



* MadScientist: Mitra
** And [[spoiler:Captain Jack]], who is what Mitra would be like [[spoiler:if he was human. And, you know, irredeemable]].

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* MadScientist: Mitra
Mitra, whose experiments [[spoiler: on several humans result in a lobotomy, a draining of blood, loss of air, and an EarlyBirdCameo of the Delphinus Parasite, all of which left the affected crewmemebers dead]]
** And [[spoiler:Captain Jack]], who is what Mitra would be like [[spoiler:if he was human. And, you know, even more irredeemable]].



* OurDemonsAreDifferent: In this franchise, "Demon" is actually a catch-all term for any supernatural being ranging from goblins and fairies to gods; even angels are technically one specific type of demon (though they'd probably be very angry at you if you called them that). Demons in general are still very bad news for unwary humans, despite not all being horned monstrosities straight out of a Doom game.
** Well, that's what the word "demon" (or, if you want to be picky, "daemon") originally meant: "spiritual being". The negative connotations were mostly Constantine-onwards Christianity apologists trying to explain away outside religions.
* OurZombiesAreDifferent: One hapless teammate named Norris gets turned into a shambling corpse in Bootes. He's "just" a demon-corrupted human who fights like an animal. A much more different zombie is [[spoiler:the Ubergestalt, who's situationally benevolent and not rotten.]]

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* OurDemonsAreDifferent: In this franchise, "Demon" is actually a catch-all term for any supernatural being ranging from goblins and fairies to gods; even angels are technically one specific type of demon (though they'd probably be very angry at you if you called them that). Demons in general are still very bad news for unwary humans, despite not all being horned monstrosities straight out of a Doom game.
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game. Well, that's what the word "demon" (or, if you want to be picky, "daemon") originally meant: "spiritual being". The negative connotations were mostly Constantine-onwards Christianity apologists trying to explain away outside religions.
** They also appear to be forms of data or thoughtAs blue squares are the form invisible demons [[spoiler: and the demons in Grus after being affected by Zenelin's song]] take.
* OurZombiesAreDifferent: One hapless teammate named Norris gets turned into a shambling corpse in Bootes. He's "just" a demon-corrupted [[spoiler: and possibly Delphinus Parasite-infected]] human who fights like an animal. A much more different zombie is [[spoiler:the Ubergestalt, who's situationally benevolent and not rotten.]]
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