History VideoGame / ShinMegamiTenseiIf

18th Apr '16 7:58:16 AM finalsurvivor1
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* MythologyGag: The Fiends in the original version are primarily taken from ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiI''. These include Pascal, Gotou, the Law and Chaos Heroes, the protagonist, and En no Ozuno. In ''Hazama's Chapter'', only Pascal and the protagonist remain, though three Fiends from ''II'' (Matador, Alice, and the Sage of Time) are added.
8th Mar '16 11:03:15 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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''Shin Megami Tensei: if...'' was the third GaidenGame to be spun off from the ''ShinMegamiTensei'' franchise (the first being ''Majin Tensei'', and the second being ''Last Bible'', which came to America as ''Revelations: The Demon Slayer''). The title refers to two things: first is the concept of the game, which is a WhatIf scenario in the SMT universe, namely "what if a school was suddenly thrown into the Demon Realm?" The title and logo are also references to the arthouse British film ''Film/{{If}}'', where the developers seem to have gotten the school concept from (although all similarities really stop there, with one possible [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer exception]]). Sadly, this game will [[NoExportForYou never be released outside of Japan]] due to this, but Aeon Genesis has announced a fan translation of this game is ongoing, [[http://agtp.romhack.net/project.php?id=smtif currently at eighty percent completion]]. [[IncrediblyLamePun If you]] can find an English patch available, sound off!

Mechanically, the game is built on the engine of ''ShinMegamiTenseiII'', and even recycles a large number of art and musical assets from that title. Dungeons are navigated in a first-person view; demons are negotiated with, and fused in the Cathedral of Shadows. Perhaps the biggest change mechanically is the introduction of the idea of "guardian spirits": souls of demons that will save you from death and upon entering your body, strengthen it and even give you and your compatriots magical powers.

If this sounds [[VideoGame/{{Persona}} just a bit familiar]], it should; many of the concepts introduced in ''if...'' would eventually be expanded upon in ''Persona 1'', and the formerly anonymous main character of ''if...'' even became a character in the early Persona games, putting Persona in the same continuity as ''if...'' and the ''Devil Summoner'' games (which detail what'd happen if people knew about demons ''before'' a certain event in SMT 1, thanks to the events of ''if...''). In other words, what started as one GaidenGame ended up dovetailing into a huge AlternateContinuity that has ''eclipsed'' the original Shin Megami Tensei games in popularity.

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''Shin Megami Tensei: if...'' was the third GaidenGame to be spun off from the ''ShinMegamiTensei'' franchise (the first being ''Majin Tensei'', and the second being ''Last Bible'', ''VideoGame/LastBible'', which came to America as ''Revelations: The Demon Slayer''). The title refers to two things: first is the concept of the game, which is a WhatIf scenario in the SMT universe, namely "what if a school was suddenly thrown into the Demon Realm?" The title and logo are also references to the arthouse British film ''Film/{{If}}'', where the developers seem to have gotten the school concept from (although all similarities really stop there, with one possible [[AllOfTheOtherReindeer exception]]). Sadly, this game will [[NoExportForYou never be released outside of Japan]] due to this, but Aeon Genesis has announced a fan translation of this game is ongoing, [[http://agtp.romhack.net/project.php?id=smtif currently at eighty percent completion]]. [[IncrediblyLamePun If you]] can find an English patch available, sound off!

Mechanically, the game is built on the engine of ''ShinMegamiTenseiII'', ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiII'', and even recycles a large number of art and musical assets from that title. Dungeons are navigated in a first-person view; demons are negotiated with, and fused in the Cathedral of Shadows. Perhaps the biggest change mechanically is the introduction of the idea of "guardian spirits": souls of demons that will save you from death and upon entering your body, strengthen it and even give you and your compatriots magical powers.

If this sounds [[VideoGame/{{Persona}} [[Franchise/ShinMegamiTenseiPersona just a bit familiar]], it should; many of the concepts introduced in ''if...'' would eventually be expanded upon in ''Persona 1'', the original ''VideoGame/{{Persona}}'', and the formerly anonymous main character of ''if...'' even became a character in the early Persona ''Persona'' games, putting Persona ''Persona'' in the same continuity as ''if...'' and the ''Devil Summoner'' games (which detail what'd happen what would have happened if people knew about demons ''before'' a certain event in SMT 1, thanks to the events of ''if...''). In other words, what started as one GaidenGame ended up dovetailing into a huge AlternateContinuity that has ''eclipsed'' the original Shin ''Shin Megami Tensei Tensei'' games in popularity.
9th Dec '15 2:19:21 AM Morgenthaler
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* FiveManBand: Although you only ever get to take one human partner with you, your options do form something like this.
** TheHero: Tamaki/The Protagonist
** TheLancer: Charlie
** TheChick: Yumi
** TheSmartGuy: Reiko
** SixthRanger: Akira (getting him to join you is... difficult)
*** TheBigGuy: Atlus ''loves'' using [[SecretCharacter these]] [[TheBigGuy three]] [[SixthRanger tropes in conjunction.]]
** TeamPet: [[MascotMook Heeho-kun]], sort of.
6th Sep '15 10:59:09 AM dylanmc12
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* PurelyAestheticGender: Averted. The female protagonist and partners have much lower HP growths from Stamina/Vitality, though this is not the case with Strength, which both male and female characters gain an equal amount of HP from. Many pieces of equipment and guardians are gendered as well.

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* PurelyAestheticGender: Averted. The female protagonist and partners have much lower HP growths from Stamina/Vitality, than male characters, though putting enough points into Strength and Stamina can alleviate this is not problem. And depending on the case with Strength, which both male and sex you choose at the beginning of the game for the protagonist as well as how they score on the personality test they'll be given a different lineage of guardians.
** In the Lust dungeon, if you have a
female characters gain an equal amount of HP from. Many pieces of equipment and guardians are gendered as well.partner (namely, [[TheBigGuy Yu]][[TheChick mi]] or [[OnlySaneMan Re]][[TheSmartGuy iko]]) then they will leave the group to chase a beautiful male demon.
10th Aug '15 8:30:31 PM dylanmc12
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* ActionGirl[=/=]AmazonBrigade: Tamaki, Reiko and Yumi are the game's most prominent female characters, and are all {{Badass}}.
10th Aug '15 8:11:50 PM dylanmc12
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* PurelyAestheticGender: Averted. The female protagonist and partners have much lower HP growths from Stamina/Vitality, though this is not the case with Strength, which both male and female characters gain an equal amount of HP from. Many pieces of equipment and guardians are gendered as well.
17th Sep '14 8:50:39 PM vaderzlk11
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* ShoutOut: [[spoiler:Akira gets possessed by the demon Amon. [[Mamga/{{Devilman}} Now where have I seen this before...]] ]]

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* ShoutOut: [[spoiler:Akira gets possessed by the demon Amon. [[Mamga/{{Devilman}} [[Manga/{{Devilman}} Now where have I seen this before...]] ]]
17th Sep '14 8:50:01 PM vaderzlk11
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* ShoutOut: [[spoiler:Akira gets possessed by the demon Amon. [[Mamga/{{Devilman}} Now where have I seen this before...]] ]]
5th May '14 12:35:13 PM Otherarrow
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** TeamPet: [[MascotMook Hoho-kun]], sort of.

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** TeamPet: [[MascotMook Hoho-kun]], Heeho-kun]], sort of.
11th Jun '13 7:26:55 PM Otherarrow
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* CyberneticsEatYourSoul: [[spoiler: Professor Otsuka, in increasing levels of hilarity and tragedy.]]

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* CyberneticsEatYourSoul: [[spoiler: Professor Otsuka, Otsuki, in increasing levels of hilarity and tragedy.]]



* GodIsEvil: [[spoiler: Zurvan, the creator God in the Zoroastrian sect known as Zurvanism where he created Angra Mainyu and Ahura Mazda, is the villain and ManBehindTheMan to Hazama, all so he can take over Makai. He's also part of the Godly clan, which YHVH and his avatars from ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiII'' belong to.]]

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* GodIsEvil: [[spoiler: Zurvan, the creator God in the Zoroastrian sect known as Zurvanism Zurvanism, where he created Angra Mainyu and Ahura Mazda, is the villain and ManBehindTheMan TheManBehindTheMan to Hazama, all so he can take over Makai. He's also part of the Godly clan, which YHVH and his avatars from ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiII'' belong to.]]
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