History VideoGame / RyseSonOfRome

27th May '16 2:19:13 AM alchixinren
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* ActionGirl: [[UsefulNotes/{{Boudica}} Boudicca]].

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* ActionGirl: [[UsefulNotes/{{Boudica}} Boudicca]].UsefulNotes/{{Boudica}}.



* ArtisticLicenseHistory: Crytek themselves admitted they weren't aiming for historical accuracy. Hence why Nero is an old man with two grown sons[[note]]he historically died childless at the age of 31[[/note]], why Commodus (best known as the bad guy from ''Film/{{Gladiator}}'') is Nero's son[[note]]he was emperor one century after Nero, and doesn't even hail from the same dynasty[[/note]], why the Colosseum already exists[[note]]it was not built for over a decade after Nero's reign and its original name was the Flavian Amphitheatre, named for the Flavian Dynasty that followed Nero's reign[[/note]], and why [[UsefulNotes/{{Boudica}} Boudicca]] sacks Rome with war elephants[[note]]among other inaccuracies regarding her, Boudica never left England and never had access to elephants of any variety[[/note]].

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* ArtisticLicenseHistory: Crytek themselves admitted they weren't aiming for historical accuracy. Hence why Nero is an old man with two grown sons[[note]]he historically died childless at the age of 31[[/note]], why Commodus (best known as the bad guy from ''Film/{{Gladiator}}'') is Nero's son[[note]]he was emperor one century after Nero, and doesn't even hail from the same dynasty[[/note]], why the Colosseum already exists[[note]]it was not built for over a decade after Nero's reign and its original name was the Flavian Amphitheatre, named for the Flavian Dynasty that followed Nero's reign[[/note]], and why [[UsefulNotes/{{Boudica}} Boudicca]] UsefulNotes/{{Boudica}} sacks Rome with war elephants[[note]]among other inaccuracies regarding her, Boudica never left England and never had access to elephants of any variety[[/note]].
27th May '16 2:17:44 AM alchixinren
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* ActionGirl: Boudica.

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* ActionGirl: Boudica.[[UsefulNotes/{{Boudica}} Boudicca]].



* ArtisticLicenseHistory: Crytek themselves admitted they weren't aiming for historical accuracy. Hence why Nero is an old man with two grown sons[[note]]he historically died childless at the age of 31[[/note]], why Commodus (best known as the bad guy from ''Film/{{Gladiator}}'') is Nero's son[[note]]he was emperor one century after Nero, and doesn't even hail from the same dynasty[[/note]], why the Colosseum already exists[[note]]it was not built for over a decade after Nero's reign and its original name was the Flavian Amphitheatre, named for the Flavian Dynasty that followed Nero's reign[[/note]], and why Boudica sacks Rome with war elephants[[note]]among other inaccuracies regarding her, Boudica never left England and never had access to elephants of any variety[[/note]].

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* ArtisticLicenseHistory: Crytek themselves admitted they weren't aiming for historical accuracy. Hence why Nero is an old man with two grown sons[[note]]he historically died childless at the age of 31[[/note]], why Commodus (best known as the bad guy from ''Film/{{Gladiator}}'') is Nero's son[[note]]he was emperor one century after Nero, and doesn't even hail from the same dynasty[[/note]], why the Colosseum already exists[[note]]it was not built for over a decade after Nero's reign and its original name was the Flavian Amphitheatre, named for the Flavian Dynasty that followed Nero's reign[[/note]], and why Boudica [[UsefulNotes/{{Boudica}} Boudicca]] sacks Rome with war elephants[[note]]among other inaccuracies regarding her, Boudica never left England and never had access to elephants of any variety[[/note]].
26th May '16 3:13:53 PM Kamikashi
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* AnimalMotif: Marius, Vitallion and Commodus wear customised suits of armor which are decorated in with a certain animal. Marius's is a stylised ''Aquila'' (Roman eagle) that is emblazoned high on the front and back of his chest armor, arm and shin guards, and the individual bands are bordered golden to remind of the feathers of a golden eagle; Vitallion's beast of choice is a ''lion'', found relief-hammered in the same places as on Marius with the exception of his back; Commodus' golden armor bears a viper's head with open mouth on the chest and is, unlike that of the two professional soldiers' (who both wear the famed ''[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorica_segmentata Lorica segmentata]]'', embodiment of [[TheGloryThatWasRome the Roman Empire]]), a set of ''scale'' armor.

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* AnimalMotif: Marius, Vitallion and Commodus wear customised suits of armor which are decorated in with a certain animal. Marius's is a stylised ''Aquila'' (Roman eagle) that is emblazoned high on the front and back of his chest armor, arm and shin guards, and the individual bands are bordered golden to remind of the feathers of a golden eagle; Vitallion's beast of choice is a ''lion'', found relief-hammered in the same places as on Marius with the exception of his back; back, as well as on the attachment points for his ''sagum'' (cloak); Commodus' golden armor bears a viper's head with open mouth on the chest and is, unlike that of the two professional soldiers' (who both wear the famed ''[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorica_segmentata Lorica segmentata]]'', embodiment of [[TheGloryThatWasRome the Roman Empire]]), a set of ''scale'' armor.



* DropTheHammer: The minotaur chieftain uses a massive bone hammer (called an "axe" in-game) as his weapon, as do some of the [[EliteMook big beastmen and the Britannians who wear wolfskins.]]

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* DropTheHammer: The Pict minotaur chieftain uses a massive bone hammer (called an "axe" in-game) as his weapon, as do some of the [[EliteMook big beastmen and the Britannians who wear wolfskins.]]



* HowWeGotHere[=/=]OnceMoreWithClarity[=/=]ThisIsMyStory: Chapter I, ''The Beginning'', starts with General Marius racing over the bridge to Nero's palace, [[spoiler: seemingly]] trying to protect the terrified emperor, who is less worried about the Barbarians laying siege to his city but "him", eventually bringing Nero to his safe room, a vault under his throne. On the way down there, it turns out Nero is worried about a mythical spirit called "Damocles" who seeks to kill him, to which Marius scoffs that "only men kill men"; then, in the Vault, Marius begins to retell his story how he became leader of the XIV. Legion and the general in charge of the defence of Rome. [[spoiler: As his tale reveals the treachery of Nero and his sons to Marius' family, the Vitae, his legion, the XIV., and ultimately, the entire Roman Empire with their selfish greed, it becomes clear that "Damocles" whom Nero fears is in fact Marius himself.]]

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* HowWeGotHere[=/=]OnceMoreWithClarity[=/=]ThisIsMyStory: HowWeGotHere[=/=]InMediasRes[=/=]OnceMoreWithClarity[=/=]ThisIsMyStory: Chapter I, ''The Beginning'', starts with General Marius racing over the bridge to Nero's palace, [[spoiler: seemingly]] trying to protect the terrified emperor, who is less worried about the Barbarians laying siege to his city but "him", eventually bringing Nero to his safe room, a vault under his throne. On the way down there, it turns out Nero is worried about a mythical spirit called "Damocles" who seeks to kill him, to which Marius scoffs that "only men kill men"; then, men". Then, in the Vault, when Nero asks about his name and background, Marius begins to retell his story how he became leader of the XIV. Legion and the general in charge of the defence of Rome. [[spoiler: As his tale reveals the treachery of Nero and his sons to Marius' family, the Vitae, his legion, the XIV., and ultimately, the entire Roman Empire with their selfish greed, it becomes clear that "Damocles" whom Nero fears is in fact Marius himself.]]
26th May '16 12:18:11 PM alchixinren
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** AncientGrome: Not to mention using Greek mythological figures instead of Roman ones. Damocles was a hypothetical character from a Greek moral tale, and Nemesis is a Greek goddess. And when observing the wickerman in Scotland, Vitallion makes reference to a "gateway to Hades" when he should really be saying Pluto.
*** Vitallion using a Greek term is not unlikely: most private teachers for the noble families were Greek AND Romans worshipped her as Nemesis themselves. Also, while Pluto is the Roman god of the underworld, "Hades" specifically is the name of the underworld (it was originally also the Greek deity, with the alternate name Pluto''n'').

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** AncientGrome: Not to mention using Greek mythological figures instead of Roman ones. Damocles was a hypothetical character from a Greek moral tale, and Nemesis is a Greek goddess. goddess (although she ''does'' appear on Imperial coinage, such as her variant "Pax-Nemesis" [placated vengeance] shortly after Claudius become emperor.) And when observing the wickerman in Scotland, Vitallion makes reference to a "gateway to Hades" when he should really be saying Pluto.
*** Vitallion using a Greek term is not unlikely: most private teachers for the noble families were Greek AND Romans worshipped her as Nemesis themselves. Also, while Pluto is the Roman god of the underworld, "Hades" specifically is the name of the underworld itself (it was originally also the Greek deity, with the alternate name Pluto''n'').
25th May '16 4:53:27 PM Kamikashi
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** Not to mention the complete butchering of the Roman naming system.

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** Not to mention the complete butchering of the Roman naming system.system: Both Marius and his father (who are both from the ''gens Vita'', hence Vitus) never give their ''[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognomen cognomen]]'' (which is why the XIV. calls him by his praenomen, his given name, which was considered completely inappropiate for people who were not close friends or family), and Commander-General Vitallion [[OnlyOneName only ever gives]] [[LastNameBasis the very same cognomen]] to the audience, which leads to never learning which family he is from or what his given name is (which oddly enough was not uncommon to refer to a Roman, especially an older one). The only person in-game that actually gives anything close to his full name is Nero at the very beginning.
-->'''Nero''': Defend your Emperor! I, [[PunctuatedForEmphasis Nero! Augustus! Germanicus! Command you!]] Defend your Emperor!
25th May '16 4:42:04 PM Kamikashi
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* AnimalMotif: Marius, Vitalion and Commodus wear customised suits of armor which are decorated in with a certain animal. Marius's is a stylised ''Aquila'' (Roman eagle) that is emblazoned high on the front and back of his chest armor, arm and shin guards, and the individual bands are bordered golden to remind of the feathers of a golden eagle; Vitalion's beast of choice is a ''lion'', found in the same places as on Marius with the exception of his back; Commodus' golden armor bears a viper's head with open mouth on the chest and is, unlike that of the two professional soldiers' (who both wear the famed ''[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorica_segmentata Lorica segmentata]]'', embodiment of [[TheGloryThatWasRome the Roman Empire]]), a set of ''scale'' armor.

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* AnimalMotif: Marius, Vitalion Vitallion and Commodus wear customised suits of armor which are decorated in with a certain animal. Marius's is a stylised ''Aquila'' (Roman eagle) that is emblazoned high on the front and back of his chest armor, arm and shin guards, and the individual bands are bordered golden to remind of the feathers of a golden eagle; Vitalion's Vitallion's beast of choice is a ''lion'', found relief-hammered in the same places as on Marius with the exception of his back; Commodus' golden armor bears a viper's head with open mouth on the chest and is, unlike that of the two professional soldiers' (who both wear the famed ''[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorica_segmentata Lorica segmentata]]'', embodiment of [[TheGloryThatWasRome the Roman Empire]]), a set of ''scale'' armor.



** AncientGrome: Not to mention using Greek mythological figures instead of Roman ones. Damocles was a hypothetical character from a Greek moral tale, and Nemesis is a Greek goddess. And when observing the wickerman in Scotland, Vitalion makes reference to a "gateway to Hades" when he should really be saying Pluto.
*** Vitalion using a Greek term is not unlikely: most private teachers for the noble families were Greek AND Romans worshipped her as Nemesis themselves. Also, while Pluto is the Roman god of the underworld, "Hades" specifically is the name of the underworld (it was originally also the Greek deity, with the alternate name Pluto''n'')

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** AncientGrome: Not to mention using Greek mythological figures instead of Roman ones. Damocles was a hypothetical character from a Greek moral tale, and Nemesis is a Greek goddess. And when observing the wickerman in Scotland, Vitalion Vitallion makes reference to a "gateway to Hades" when he should really be saying Pluto.
*** Vitalion Vitallion using a Greek term is not unlikely: most private teachers for the noble families were Greek AND Romans worshipped her as Nemesis themselves. Also, while Pluto is the Roman god of the underworld, "Hades" specifically is the name of the underworld (it was originally also the Greek deity, with the alternate name Pluto''n'')Pluto''n'').



* AuthorityEqualsAsskicking: Boudica, the Horned King, and even Commodus all put up boss-level fights against Marius. Marius himself is shown to be AsskickingEqualsAuthority, as his rapid promotion comes as he kills hundreds of dudes singlehandedly over the course of the game. Commander Vitalion is another good example.

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* AuthorityEqualsAsskicking: Boudica, the Horned King, and even Commodus all put up boss-level fights against Marius. Marius himself is shown to be AsskickingEqualsAuthority, as his rapid promotion comes as he kills hundreds of dudes singlehandedly over the course of the game. Commander Vitalion Vitallion is another good example.



** XIV. Legion Commander ''[[TheObiWan Vitalion]]'' also qualifies, specifically as FourStarBadass.

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** XIV. Legion Commander ''[[TheObiWan Vitalion]]'' Vitallion]]'' also qualifies, specifically as FourStarBadass.



* DeadpanSnarker[=/=]SarcasmMode: Both Marius and Vitalion have a moment of it after the former has rescued the latter from being burnt alive in a Wickerman in Chapter V - The Heart of Darkness, and are confronted with Commodus' less-than-stellar attitude towards them.

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* DeadpanSnarker[=/=]SarcasmMode: Both Marius and Vitalion Vitallion have a moment of it after the former has rescued the latter from being burnt alive in a Wickerman in Chapter V - The Heart of Darkness, and are confronted with Commodus' less-than-stellar attitude towards them.



-->'''Marius: ''' (turning his back on Commodus with Vitalion) I suppose that would be our '''glorious''' leader, General Commodus?
-->'''Vitalion: ''' Yes. The ''Emperor's'' son.

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-->'''Marius: ''' (turning his back on Commodus with Vitalion) Vitallion) I suppose that would be our '''glorious''' leader, General Commodus?
-->'''Vitalion: -->'''Vitallion: ''' Yes. The ''Emperor's'' son.



-->'''Vitalion: ''' (smirks) Your victory, your honour, ''Centurion''.

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-->'''Vitalion: -->'''Vitallion: ''' (smirks) Your victory, your honour, ''Centurion''.



** Debatable with [[spoiler:Basilius]], since he orders Vitalion and his legion to rescue [[spoiler:Commodus]], when leaving [[spoiler:Commodus, who was Basilus' brother,]] to die would have been advantageous to [[spoiler:Basilius]].

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** Debatable with [[spoiler:Basilius]], since he orders Vitalion Vitallion and his legion to rescue [[spoiler:Commodus]], when leaving [[spoiler:Commodus, who was Basilus' brother,]] to die would have been advantageous to [[spoiler:Basilius]].



* AFatherToHisMen: Marius and Commander Vitalion. Marius especially [[NoOneLeftBehind does not leave a man behind]], and there are multiple times where he risks his own well-being to make sure his men make it out alive, such as ''twice'' at the siege of York. The first time he jumps into a wagon containing a ''scorpio'' to provide covering fire for a retreating legion, the second time is moments later when he pulls YouShallNotPass on the barbarian army as Vitalion and his legions evacuate on a ship.
* FieldPromotion: Vitalion promotes Marius from an optio (junior officer) to centurion after the landing at Dover, because so many officers got killed during said battle. [[spoiler: Much later, after Vitalion dies, [[YouAreInCommandNow the soldiers address Marius as "general."]]]]

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* AFatherToHisMen: Marius and Commander Vitalion.Vitallion. Marius especially [[NoOneLeftBehind does not leave a man behind]], and there are multiple times where he risks his own well-being to make sure his men make it out alive, such as ''twice'' at the siege of York. The first time he jumps into a wagon containing a ''scorpio'' to provide covering fire for a retreating legion, the second time is moments later when he pulls YouShallNotPass on the barbarian army as Vitalion Vitallion and his legions evacuate on a ship.
ship. Vitallion, being of an older generation than most of his legion, tends to treat them like a class of unruly children he is very fond of.
* FieldPromotion: Vitalion Vitallion promotes Marius from an optio (junior officer) to centurion (and right-hand man) after the landing at Dover, because so many officers got killed during said battle. battle, and he's proved his mettle as officer. [[spoiler: Much later, after Vitalion Vitallion dies, [[YouAreInCommandNow the soldiers address Marius as "general."]]]]



* GeneralFailure: Commodus. Captured by barbarians in Britannia, and Vitalion later says that he let the legions sit in Rome while Boudica invaded the empire with a massive army instead of trying to stop them, leaving Rome itself in danger.

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* GeneralFailure: Commodus. Captured by barbarians in Britannia, and Vitalion Vitallion later says that he let the legions sit in Rome while Boudica invaded the empire with a massive army instead of trying to stop them, leaving Rome itself in danger.



** While marching a captured Oswald & Boudica through the British countryside, Vitalion sees the Praetorian Guard punishing Britons with public floggings and crucifixions and notes that this kind of harsh oppression will only make pacifying the region even harder.

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** While marching a captured Oswald & Boudica through the British countryside, Vitalion Vitallion sees the Praetorian Guard punishing Britons with public floggings and crucifixions and notes that this kind of harsh oppression will only make pacifying the region even harder.



* ReasonableAuthorityFigure: Commander Vitalion.

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* ReasonableAuthorityFigure: Commander Vitalion.Vitallion.



* RousingSpeech: Vitalion's speech to the soldiers after landing at Britannia and securing the beachhead.
-->''Vitalion'': "Rome is civilization. Rome is order. Rome is POWER! And out here...WE. ARE. ROME!"

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* RousingSpeech: Vitalion's Vitallion's speech to the soldiers after landing at Britannia and securing the beachhead.
-->''Vitalion'': -->''Vitallion'': "Rome is civilization. Civilization! Rome is order. Order! Rome is POWER! And out here...WE. ARE. ROME!"



* YouShallNotPass: Marius pulls this off during the siege of York, staying behind to fight off the barbarian army [[OneManArmy by himself]] to buy time for Vitalion and the rest of the Romans to evacuate.

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* YouShallNotPass: Marius pulls this off during the siege of York, staying behind to fight off the barbarian army [[OneManArmy by himself]] to buy time for Vitalion Vitallion and the rest of the Romans to evacuate.
25th May '16 11:56:04 AM Kamikashi
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* AnimalMotif: Marius, Vitalion and Commodus wear customised suits of armor which are decorated in with a certain animal. Marius's is a stylised ''Aquila'' (Roman eagle) that is emblazoned high on the front and back of his chest armor, arm and shin guards, and the individual bands are bordered golden to remind of the feathers of a golden eagle; Vitalion's beast of choice is a ''lion'', found in the same places as on Marius with the exception of his back; Commodus' golden armor bears a viper's head with open mouth on the chest and is, unlike that of the two professional soldiers', a set of ''scale'' armor.

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* AnimalMotif: Marius, Vitalion and Commodus wear customised suits of armor which are decorated in with a certain animal. Marius's is a stylised ''Aquila'' (Roman eagle) that is emblazoned high on the front and back of his chest armor, arm and shin guards, and the individual bands are bordered golden to remind of the feathers of a golden eagle; Vitalion's beast of choice is a ''lion'', found in the same places as on Marius with the exception of his back; Commodus' golden armor bears a viper's head with open mouth on the chest and is, unlike that of the two professional soldiers', soldiers' (who both wear the famed ''[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lorica_segmentata Lorica segmentata]]'', embodiment of [[TheGloryThatWasRome the Roman Empire]]), a set of ''scale'' armor.
24th May '16 5:56:57 PM Kamikashi
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* FieldPromotion: Vitalion promotes Marius from a common soldier to centurion after the landing at Dover, because so many officers got killed during said battle. [[spoiler: Much later, after Vitalion dies, [[YouAreInCommandNow the soldiers address Marius as "general."]]]]
* {{Foreshadowing}}: If you look quickly at the pommel of the sword that a barbarian stabs Leontius to death with you can see an N on it. Where have you seen that before…?

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* FieldPromotion: Vitalion promotes Marius from a common soldier an optio (junior officer) to centurion after the landing at Dover, because so many officers got killed during said battle. [[spoiler: Much later, after Vitalion dies, [[YouAreInCommandNow the soldiers address Marius as "general."]]]]
* {{Foreshadowing}}: If you look quickly at the pommel blade of the sword that a barbarian stabs Leontius to death with you can see an N on it. Where have you seen that before…?
22nd May '16 3:56:13 PM Kamikashi
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[[caption-width-right:256:[[TitleDrop Rise up, son of Rome]].]]

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[[caption-width-right:256:[[TitleDrop [-[[caption-width-right:180:[[TitleDrop Rise up, son of Rome]].]]
Rome.]]]]-]


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21st May '16 9:06:04 PM Kamikashi
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* {{Foreshadowing}}: If you look quickly at the pommel of the sword that a barbarian stabs Leontius to death with you can see an N on it. Where have you seen that before...?

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* {{Foreshadowing}}: If you look quickly at the pommel of the sword that a barbarian stabs Leontius to death with you can see an N on it. Where have you seen that before...?before…?
** Also, much earlier, in ''The Beginning'', Marius answers to Nero's prayer to be safe in the vault "Oh, we will be safe here, my emperor. As safe as we can be." [[spoiler:In chapter one, this simply seems the words of a [[KnightInSourArmor battle-worn, experienced soldier]], but after it is revealed that Marius is the "Damocles" that Nero fears…]]
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