History VideoGame / RedDeadRedemption

14th Mar '17 7:05:26 AM LentilSandEater
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* TheDragon: Norman Deek to Bill, Captain De Santa/Espinoza (depending on which one you ask) to Allende, Fordham to Ross. Arguably John was this to Dutch.

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* TheDragon: Norman Deek to Bill, Captain De Santa/Espinoza (depending on which one you ask) to Allende, Fordham to Ross. Arguably John was this to Dutch.



** Arguably so with Irish, who keeps his gun holstered directly in the front of his pants. [[spoiler:In the epilogue it's revealed that he accidentally shot himself.]]

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** Arguably so with Irish, who Irish keeps his gun holstered directly in the front of his pants. [[spoiler:In the epilogue it's revealed that he accidentally shot himself.]]



* LoveableRogue: Arguably, Irish.

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* %%* LoveableRogue: Arguably, Irish.



* ShipTease: Arguably some between John and Bonnie, though as it turns out, [[spoiler:only Bonnie recieves [[UnrequitedLove the effects]] of it.]]

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* ShipTease: Arguably some Some between John and Bonnie, though as it turns out, [[spoiler:only Bonnie recieves [[UnrequitedLove the effects]] of it.]]



* VideoGameCrueltyPunishment: If you decide to go on a rampage and happen to do a thorough job of shooting up the town, in addition to having several heavily armed Marshals hunting you down and various bounty hunters, if you happen to tag any shopkeepers in the process you lose that shop for several game days. Which could count as cutting your own supply lines because there's only so much ammo you can amass by [[RandomlyDrops random drops]] from downed enemies, especially when you're burning through it by shooting everything in sight.

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* VideoGameCrueltyPunishment: VideoGameCrueltyPunishment:
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If you decide to go on a rampage and happen to do a thorough job of shooting up the town, in addition to having several heavily armed Marshals hunting you down and various bounty hunters, if you happen to tag any shopkeepers in the process you lose that shop for several game days. Which could count as cutting your own supply lines because there's only so much ammo you can amass by [[RandomlyDrops random drops]] from downed enemies, especially when you're burning through it by shooting everything in sight.



* WhatTheHellHero: Arguably, John pulls this on ''himself''. It is established several times that John is not a fellow you want to cross. However, he is for the most part honorable with the exception of [[spoiler:working for De Santa and Colonel Allende, in which he kills many poor peasents whose only crime is fighting a corrupt regime. Not only that, he burns their homes and allows their women to be forced into prostitution.]] The expression on his face indicates he is not pleased with this. It adds a definite edge to his character when you consider how far he's willing to go to get back to his family.

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* WhatTheHellHero: Arguably, John pulls this on ''himself''. It is established several times that John is not a fellow you want to cross. However, he is for the most part honorable with the exception of [[spoiler:working for De Santa and Colonel Allende, in which he kills many poor peasents whose only crime is fighting a corrupt regime. Not only that, he burns their homes and allows their women to be forced into prostitution.]] The expression on his face indicates he is not pleased with this. It adds a definite edge to his character when you consider how far he's willing to go to get back to his family.
5th Mar '17 2:13:39 PM Lancelot07
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* OffscreenMomentOfAwesome: Wait... Nastas ''carried'' a fainted John down that entire mountain by himself? And did so AFTER he'd already given John an "IWillOnlySlowYouDown" speech after getting shot in the arm? Wow.

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* OffscreenMomentOfAwesome: Wait... Nastas ''carried'' a fainted John down that entire mountain by himself? And did so AFTER he'd already given John an "IWillOnlySlowYouDown" speech after getting shot knifed in the arm? Wow.
5th Mar '17 2:06:26 PM Lancelot07
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** Two of [[spoiler:Dutch's]] final lines foreshadows [[spoiler:John's eventual fate: "When I'm gone... they'll just find another monster." and "Our time has passed, John."]]

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** Two of [[spoiler:Dutch's]] final lines foreshadows [[spoiler:John's eventual fate: "When I'm gone... they'll just find another monster." and "Our time has is passed, John."]]



** You can choose to make John a down right monster should you want to, making him kill people wherever he goes and commit all sorts of crimes. This will bestow you with low honor and affect his personality, making him shout insults to people if you make him converse with them and the law will frequently hunt him. John will still act kind and polite during cut scenes however.

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** You can choose to make John a down right monster should you want to, making him kill people wherever he goes and commit all sorts of crimes. This will bestow you with low honor and affect his personality, making him shout insults to people if you make him converse with them and the law will frequently hunt him. This does nothing to affect cutscenes as John will still act kind and polite during cut scenes however.in them.
5th Mar '17 1:59:38 PM Lancelot07
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** A horse harnessed to a chariot is basically the game's equivalent to an [[VideoGame/GrandTheftAuto Infernus]] early on and are great for quick travel if you do not feel like breaking horses.

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** A horse harnessed to a chariot is basically the game's equivalent to an [[VideoGame/GrandTheftAuto Infernus]] early on and are great for quick travel if you do not feel like breaking horses. Also, animals won't attack you while you drive a cart.
1st Mar '17 7:53:29 AM Silverblade2
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Almost six years later, Rockstar announced ''Red Dead Redemption 2'', to be released in Fall 2017. The first trailer can be seen [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NZsaBLRuXU&t=2s here.]]

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Almost six years later, Rockstar announced ''Red Dead Redemption 2'', ''VideoGame/RedDeadRedemption2'', to be released in Fall 2017. The first trailer can be seen [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NZsaBLRuXU&t=2s here.]]
4th Feb '17 6:55:13 PM Lanes17B
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* StayInTheKitchen: The animated short ''Beaumont the Burly,'' concludes with the message that [[DeliberateValuesDissonance women's suffrage will make America lose its way.]]
1st Feb '17 4:35:46 PM mhj0808
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* CutsceneIncompetence: John is prone to this. In the very first mission, he decides to draw a gun on three men all pointing rifles at him. [[spoiler:They shoot him. Did you really need to to highlight this?]]. Later on, an important character is holding someone hostage. John has resolved this situation many times before in-game using his elite marksmanship. But this time he apparently forgets that he can.

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* CutsceneIncompetence: John is prone to this. In the very first mission, he decides to draw a gun on three men all pointing rifles at him. [[spoiler:They They shoot him. Did you really need to to highlight this?]].him. Later on, an important character is holding someone hostage. John has resolved this situation many times before in-game using his elite marksmanship. But this time he apparently forgets that he can.
21st Jan '17 10:28:33 AM I_love_dragons
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* JustTakeThePoster: When you accept a bounty, John Marston rips the poster off of the wall, folds it up, and places it inside his coat. Justified in that he wouldn't want others to know about the bounty.
12th Jan '17 10:04:24 PM RobbSony3
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* {{Foil}}: [[spoiler:Edgar Ross]] and [[spoiler:Dutch van der Linde]]. [[spoiler: Both are fighting for what they believe to be best for society, Ross for civilization and Dutch for anarchy, and both display a complete willingness to Shoot the Dog if that's what it takes to get there. But the game shows that both of them are hypocrites and neither of their plans are without flaws anyway. The only real difference is that in the end, Ross is remembered as the hero and Dutch as the vicious outlaw, but then the game points out that had more to do with civilization ultimately triumphing and history being Written by the Winners then any real moral superiority of one over the other.]]

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* {{Foil}}: [[spoiler:Edgar Ross]] and [[spoiler:Dutch van der Linde]]. [[spoiler: Both are fighting for what they believe to be best for society, Ross for civilization and Dutch for anarchy, and both display a complete willingness to Shoot the Dog ShootTheDog if that's what it takes to get there. But the game shows that both of them are hypocrites and neither of their plans are without flaws anyway. The only real difference is that in the end, Ross is remembered as the hero and Dutch as the vicious outlaw, but then the game points out that had more to do with civilization ultimately triumphing and history being Written by the Winners then any real moral superiority of one over the other.]]
12th Jan '17 10:03:02 PM RobbSony3
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* {{Foil}}: [[spoiler:Edgar Ross]] and [[spoiler:Dutch van der Linde]]. [[spoiler: Both are fighting for what they believe to be best for society, Ross for civilization and Dutch for anarchy, and both display a complete willingness to Shoot the Dog if that's what it takes to get there. But the game shows that both of them are hypocrites and neither of their plans are without flaws anyway. The only real difference is that in the end, Ross is remembered as the hero and Dutch as the vicious outlaw, but then the game points out that had more to do with civilization ultimately triumphing and history being Written by the Winners then any real moral superiority of one over the other.]]



* {{Foil}}: [[spoiler:Edgar Ross]] and [[spoiler:Dutch van der Linde]]. [[spoiler: Both are fighting for what they believe to be best for society, Ross for civilization and Dutch for anarchy, and both display a complete willingness to Shoot the Dog if that's what it takes to get there. But the game shows that both of them are hypocrites and neither of their plans are without flaws anyway. The only real difference is that in the end, Ross is remembered as the hero and Dutch as the vicious outlaw, but then the game points out that had more to do with civilization ultimately triumphing and history being Written by the Winners then any real moral superiority of one over the other.]]
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