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26th Mar '17 1:26:50 PM Gosicrystal
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** ''Golden'' has a trophy that requires you to read all the books in the game. Three of them can only be acquired through spending time with Kou and Daisuke when they call you on three specific dates. The game doesn't tell you this, of course. Say you'll pass and the book in question is LostForever. At least your friends will call you automatically, so the invitations can't be missed, right? Not in this case. If you don't go back to your room at evening on one, very specific date[[note]]7/15[[/note]], you won't get called and you won't even know you missed an invitation. Oh, and did you join the basketball club? If that's the case, you also won't get called if the social link is at rank 4, 5 or 6 (the first invitation) or 5 or 6 (the second invitation). Naturally, if you complete the link,it's ''also'' LostForever. Now have fun figuring all of this out without a guide.

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** ''Golden'' has a trophy that requires you to read all the books in the game. Three of them can only be acquired through spending time with Kou and Daisuke when they call you on three specific dates. The game doesn't tell you this, of course. Say you'll pass and the book in question is LostForever.[[PermanentlyMissableContent lost]]. At least your friends will call you automatically, so the invitations can't be missed, right? Not in this case. If you don't go back to your room at evening on one, very specific date[[note]]7/15[[/note]], you won't get called and you won't even know you missed an invitation. Oh, and did you join the basketball club? If that's the case, you also won't get called if the social link is at rank 4, 5 or 6 (the first invitation) or 5 or 6 (the second invitation). Naturally, if you complete the link,it's link, it's ''also'' LostForever.lost. Now have fun figuring all of this out without a guide.
27th Feb '17 10:25:41 AM Harco
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* OminousSavePrompt: On 12/03, after finishing the last exams, one of these pops up. It isn't lying.
-->There will be dramatic turns in the story from this point. It is strongly recommended that you take this opportunity to save. Would you like to save the game now?


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* PointOfNoReturn: Once you're in the TheVeryDefinitelyFinalDungeon, you can't leave the TV World anymore. The game is rather merciful about it, as both stores (Daidera and Shiroku) are directly available through interacting with the [=TVs=] in the hub. [[spoiler:This stands in stark contrast to the sheer GuideDangit that's involved with unlocking said dungeon...]]
22nd Feb '17 1:55:54 PM Vilui
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* HyperactiveMetabolism: Played straight, but with minimal effectiveness: food items do restore HP, but the restoration is so little (i.e. 25 HP from a Steak Croquette) that you're better off using medicinal items for that purpose. Played straight with the rare Tater Longs item, which restores all of a character's HP. However, it still can't be eaten during combat.

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* HyperactiveMetabolism: Played straight, but with minimal effectiveness: food items do restore HP, but the restoration is so little (i.e.(e.g. 25 HP from a Steak Croquette) that you're better off using medicinal items for that purpose. Played straight with the rare Tater Longs item, which restores all of a character's HP. However, it still can't be eaten during combat.
19th Feb '17 6:41:43 PM xVanitas
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!!Persona 4 and its spinoffs provides examples of:

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!!Persona 4 and its spinoffs provides examples of:



* AddedAlliterativeAppeal: Yosuke describes [[{{Persona 3}} Chihiro]] as "The most bewitching bespectacled beauty I've everů beheld!" and even pauses briefly whilst he thinks of a word for "seen" that starts with the letter B.

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* AddedAlliterativeAppeal: AddedAlliterativeAppeal:
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Yosuke describes [[{{Persona 3}} Chihiro]] as "The most bewitching bespectacled beauty I've everů beheld!" and even pauses briefly whilst he thinks of a word for "seen" that starts with the letter B.



** The last victim of the kidnapper is [[spoiler:your little cousin Nanako]]. Her father goes through absolute ''hell'', alongside you.
** You know how in RealLife, serial killers tend to be people the victims know, right? Well, the person pulling the strings here is none other than [[spoiler:Tohru Adachi, Dojima's partner,]] who's visited the family on at least two occasions.
** When making the choices that determine your ending, [[spoiler:if you want to give in and punish her kidnapper? You will get '''the Bad Ending''' and Nanako will die. It's a really easy option and one that many newbies are likely to take, and then BAM. Kid is 100% dead, and you'll lose the chance to get her back.]] And this is amped up in [[UpdatedReRelease Persona 4 The Golden]]: [[spoiler:Adachi is actually ''one of your Social Links''.]] So make the wrong decisions [[spoiler:and Adachi not only gets a KarmaHoudini, but he ''mocks you over it even when you're leaving Inaba''. [[SarcasmMode Happy "Accomplice" Ending, MC]].]]
** What, just the Protagonist? It may be less spectacular, but the interaction with Mrs. Hisano Kuroda touches pretty close on [[spoiler:how awful it is to watch your spouse die before you, as well as the pain of old age and having a loved one suffer from memory loss.]] Yeah, Mr. Kuroda had [[spoiler:''Alzheimers'', thank you. (Even if it's not treated by name).]]
** If you make the right choices after the November dungeon, you find that [[spoiler:Namatame]] also had it ''very'' rough. Not only was his whole life destroyed [[spoiler:because of his affair, he also had to sit and watch two people, including his lover, dying right in front of him, helpless to do anything. And then, right after that, he was tricked by Adachi into almost murdering several innocent people.]] No wonder everyone thought he was mentally unstable at the end of the game.

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** The last victim of the kidnapper is [[spoiler:your [[spoiler:Nanako, the player character's little cousin Nanako]]. Her cousin]]. That character's father goes and the player character go through absolute ''hell'', alongside you.
''hell''.
** You know how in In RealLife, serial killers tend to be people the victims know, right? Well, the person pulling the strings here is know. [[spoiler:In this case, it was none other than [[spoiler:Tohru Tohru Adachi, Dojima's partner,]] who's visited partner]].
** During
the family on at least two occasions.
** When making
WhamEpisode near the end of the game, the player has to make choices that determine your ending, [[spoiler:if you want what ending to give in and punish her kidnapper? get. [[spoiler:If the player punishes Nanako's kidnapper out of vengeance? You will get '''the Bad Ending''' a BadEnding and Nanako will die. It's a really easy option and dies, while the real truth behind the case is still out there]]. It can potentially get worse in ''Golden'', where [[spoiler:Adachi, the murder, is one that many newbies are likely to take, and then BAM. Kid is 100% dead, and you'll lose the chance to get her back.]] And this is amped up in [[UpdatedReRelease Persona 4 The Golden]]: [[spoiler:Adachi is actually ''one of your Social Links''.]] So make social links. Make the wrong decisions [[spoiler:and Adachi decisions, and not only gets does Adachi become a KarmaHoudini, but he ''mocks you the player over it even when you're leaving Inaba''. [[SarcasmMode Happy "Accomplice" Ending, MC]].]]
** What, just
This is known as the Protagonist? It may be less spectacular, but Accomplice Ending]].
** If
the interaction with player makes the right choices near the end of the game, the player can find out that [[spoiler:Taro Namatame]] had it pretty rough. His entire life was destroyed because of [[spoiler:his affair, and he had to sit and watch two people, one being his lover, die right in front of him, while he was entirely helpless. Right after that, he gets tricked by Adachi into almost murdering several innocent people]]. No wonder everyone thought he was mentally unstable at the end of the game.
** In the Death Social Link,
Mrs. Hisano Kuroda touches pretty close on [[spoiler:how how awful it is to watch your have [[spoiler:your spouse die before you, as well as the pain of old age and having a loved one suffer from memory loss.]] Yeah, loss. Mr. Kuroda had [[spoiler:''Alzheimers'', thank you. (Even if it's not treated by name).]]
** If you make the right choices after the November dungeon, you find that [[spoiler:Namatame]] also had it ''very'' rough. Not only was his whole life destroyed [[spoiler:because of his affair, he also had to sit and watch two people, including his lover, dying right
has Alzheimers in front of him, helpless to do anything. And then, right after that, he was tricked by Adachi into almost murdering several innocent people.]] No wonder everyone thought he was mentally unstable at the end of the game.everything but name.]]
19th Feb '17 6:28:43 PM xVanitas
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* HypocriticalHumor: After [[spoiler:Morooka]] is murdered, it is revealed through gossiping classmates that [[spoiler:despite complaining about how his students are apparently obsessed with getting laid,]] he ''still'' takes the time to [[DirtyOldMan buy Rise's pinup books.]]

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* HypocriticalHumor: HypocriticalHumor:
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After [[spoiler:Morooka]] is murdered, it is revealed through gossiping classmates that [[spoiler:despite complaining about how his students are apparently obsessed with getting laid,]] he ''still'' takes the time to [[DirtyOldMan buy Rise's pinup books.]]



** Oh boy, ''where'' do we start? The best example is [[spoiler:Nanako's kidnapping]].
** Yosuke makes a big deal about his beloved Saki-senpai and why she had to die whenever the murders come up.
** Yukiko, Kanji, Rise & Naoto all join the Investigation Team after their kidnappings made it personal to them, with Kanji outright stating he wants to join the team to get some payback on his kidnapper.
* ItWasADarkAndStormyNight: The Midnight Channel only comes on these. So do the murders. [[spoiler:And the gas station attendant only shows up in the rain.]] Hmm...

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** Oh boy, ''where'' do we start? The best example is [[spoiler:Nanako's kidnapping]].
** Yosuke makes a big deal about takes the case seriously and very personally when it comes to his beloved Saki-senpai and why she had to die whenever the murders come up.
Saki-senpai.
** Yukiko, Kanji, Rise & Rise, and Naoto all join the Investigation Team after their kidnappings made it personal to them, with Kanji outright stating he wants to join the team to get some payback revenge on his kidnapper.
** The best example of the case being very personal however is when [[spoiler:Nanako gets kidnapped]].
* ItWasADarkAndStormyNight: The Midnight Channel only comes shows up on these. So do these nights, same with the murders. [[spoiler:And the [[spoiler:The gas station attendant also only shows up in the rain.]] Hmm...



** [[spoiler:Adachi]] in the worst endings. One ending in ''Golden'' that can only be obtained after the hospital but before the TrueEnding can be earned, [[spoiler:called the Accomplice Ending, actually has you destroy the evidence that implicates him]].

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** [[spoiler:Adachi]] The murderer in the worst endings. One ending in ''Golden'' that bad endings, getting away with the murders committed. It can only be obtained after take a turn for the hospital but before the TrueEnding worse in ''Golden'', as there is an exclusive BadEnding where [[spoiler:the player can be earned, [[spoiler:called the Accomplice Ending, actually has you destroy the evidence that implicates him]].Adachi, thus making the ''player'' the reason why Adachi becomes a KarmaHoudini]].



* VideoGameCrueltyPotential: In ''Golden'', you can choose to defend and side with the murderer, willingly burning the evidence that could have helped turn the murderer in. In doing so, you betray your friends, your family, and go against the case that you've been trying to solve the entire time. [[spoiler:Doing this also maxes out the Jester Social Link, [[SoundtrackDissonance all while a heavenly choir is playing]] during this cruel moment.]]

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* VideoGameCrueltyPotential: In ''Golden'', you the player can choose to defend [[spoiler:defend and side with the murderer, Adachi, willingly burning the evidence that could have helped turn the murderer in. In doing so, you betray your friends, your family, and go against the case that you've been trying to solve the entire time. [[spoiler:Doing Doing this also maxes out the Jester Social Link, [[SoundtrackDissonance all while a heavenly choir is playing]] during this cruel moment.]]



** In the ''Golden'' exclusive Bad Ending, you can choose to defend the murderer. Even the murderer calls you out on your decision, then mocks you.

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** In the ''Golden'' exclusive Bad Ending, you the player can choose to defend [[spoiler:defend the murderer. Even the murderer murderer, Adachi. He even mocks and calls you the player out on your decision, then mocks you.for this]].
19th Feb '17 2:59:28 PM Harco
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** [[{{Hiimdaisy}} FSteak]] [[http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdrjbrZOA31r3wbloo1_400.jpg is now canon]]. Interestingly, it was a happy accident; in the original Japanese, "fusuteki" is used.
** "Shut up, Adachi!" is Dojima's (memetic) CatchPhrase in the {{Hiimdaisy}} comic, but was actually never used in the original ''Persona 4''. Then ''Golden'' comes along and Dojima uses that exact phrase in one of the first new scenes he and Adachi are featured in, fully voiced to boot.

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** [[{{Hiimdaisy}} [[Webcomic/{{Hiimdaisy}} FSteak]] [[http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mdrjbrZOA31r3wbloo1_400.jpg is now canon]]. Interestingly, it was a happy accident; in the original Japanese, "fusuteki" is used.
** "Shut up, Adachi!" is Dojima's (memetic) CatchPhrase in the {{Hiimdaisy}} Webcomic/{{Hiimdaisy}} comic, but was actually never used in the original ''Persona 4''. Then ''Golden'' comes along and Dojima uses that exact phrase in one of the first new scenes he and Adachi are featured in, fully voiced to boot.
19th Feb '17 2:57:21 PM Harco
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** "Shut up, Adachi!" is Dojima's (memetic) CatchPhrase in the {{Hiimdaisy}} comic, but was actually never used in the original ''Persona 4''. Then ''Golden'' comes along and Dojima uses that exact phrase in one of the first new scenes he and Adachi are featured in, fully voiced to boot.
18th Feb '17 11:54:00 AM maylove25
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** In Golden, it's possible to acquire a Cup card, which restores your party's HP and SP based on the ard's number.

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** In Golden, it's possible to acquire a Cup card, which restores your party's HP and SP based on the ard's card's number.
14th Feb '17 8:36:22 AM xVanitas
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* EarnYourBadEnding: As of ''Golden'', you can go out of your way to get one of the worst possible endings. When you get past the initial choice of [[spoiler:not throwing Namatame into the TV]], you and the gang then try to figure out what else they could be missing. If you come to the conclusion that [[spoiler:Adachi]] is the real culprit, you can choose to [[spoiler:protect him and not say anything to anyone]], if your [[spoiler:social link is a high enough level with him beforehand]]. From there, you can make dialogue choices [[spoiler:telling Adachi that you're on his side and even going as far as to burn the threatening letter he sent you.]] This earns the "[[spoiler:Accomplice]] ending", with the game going out of its way to point out how monstrous of a decision you've made and how screwed you are.
* EarnYourHappyEnding: The game makes a ''big deal'' about not being distracted with easy answers and that one has to search for the truth. If you follow this concept through, you will avoid the Bad Ending. In addition, if you realize the game isn't over ''during the ending sequence'', you'll get the True Ending, [[spoiler:which ends with the fog of deceit finally being lifted from the heart of humanity.]]

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* EarnYourBadEnding: As of There is a new Bad Ending in ''Golden'', you can go out of your way to get one of and the worst possible endings. When you get past player has to make the initial choice of effort to actually see it. The player first has to [[spoiler:not throwing throw Namatame into the TV]], you and the gang then try to figure out what else they could be missing. If you come to the conclusion that [[spoiler:Adachi]] is the real culprit, you can later on, choose to [[spoiler:protect [[spoiler:defend Adachi and cover up his tracks, knowing full well that he is the murderer. Your Social Link with him and not say anything to anyone]], if your [[spoiler:social link is a must be high enough level with him beforehand]]. From there, you can make dialogue choices [[spoiler:telling Adachi that you're on his side and even going as far as to burn the threatening letter he sent you.]] do this.]]. This earns gives you the "[[spoiler:Accomplice]] ending", with absolute worst ending, [[spoiler:also known as the game going out of its way to point out how monstrous of a decision you've made Accomplice Ending. The player betrays the player character's friends and how screwed you are.
everything they've worked on for almost a year. All the while, the Jester Social Link becomes maxed]].
* EarnYourHappyEnding: The game makes a ''big deal'' about not being distracted with emphasizes that the player pursues the truth and to avoid easy answers and that one has to search for the truth. If you follow answers. Follow this concept through, you will concept, and the player can avoid the Bad Ending. In addition, if you realize Keep following this concept and understand that there is always truth to seek, even when everything seems to be wrapped up, and the game isn't over ''during the ending sequence'', you'll get player can unlock the True Ending, [[spoiler:which ends with [[spoiler:wherein the goddess Izanami is defeated and the fog of deceit is finally being lifted from the heart of humanity.]]for good]].
9th Feb '17 6:57:36 PM Valiona
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* PaletteSwap: Shu's mother has the same model as the various women in suits you see throughout the game, but wears a red suit instead of a black one.



* RealityEnsues: Naoto's status as a TeenGenius and KidDetective sometimes runs into this. No matter how smart you are or how good you are at solving crimes, it doesn't guarantee that the police will want your help, particularly when you've been acting like an InsufferableGenius and challenging the authority of the people who hired you.

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* RealityEnsues: Naoto's status as a TeenGenius and KidDetective sometimes runs into this. No matter how smart you are or how good you are at solving crimes, it doesn't guarantee that the police will want your help, particularly when you've been acting like an InsufferableGenius and challenging the authority of the people who hired you. That said, it's also implied that they didn't think much of her due to her age and gender, and were unwilling to admit that the juvenile suspect they arrested didn't actually do it.



** If you talk to [[ButtMonkey Yosuke]] in a dungeon after completing his Social Link, you'll learn that someone saw your fistfight with him, resulting in him getting in trouble for fighting.



* SmallTownBoredom: [[spoiler:Part of the reason Adachi causes the murders]]. It is also part of the shadows for Yosuke and Yukiko.
* SchmuckBait: ''Person 4: The Golden'', adds a [[spoiler:social link for Adachi.]] The game even gives you the option to [[spoiler:cover for him when evidence points his way]]. Doing so results in the biggest (creepiest) DownerEnding in the game. Note also that ''not'' doing this [[spoiler:''destroys'' the social link--or, rather, mutates it into a new link.]]

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* SmallTownBoredom: SmallTownBoredom:
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[[spoiler:Part of the reason Adachi causes the murders]]. murders, particularly the idea that someone like him would be sent to Inaba]].
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It is also part of the shadows for Yosuke and Yukiko.
Yukiko. The former decided to investigate the murders to get some spice in his life, feel special and possibly be regarded as a hero. The latter feels trapped in her role as heiress of her family's inn, but after thinking through her choices, realizes that her perceived lack of choice is the problem, and she wants to manage the inn for the sake of her family and the staff.
** To a lesser extent, is a problem for Eri Minami. She, a woman from the city who married a man with a young son in Inaba, complains that there's little to do besides watch TV and surf the internet, and it doesn't help that none of the other mothers who have kids at the daycare like her.
* SchmuckBait: ''Person 4: The Golden'', adds a [[spoiler:social link for Adachi.]] The game even gives you the option to [[spoiler:cover for him when evidence points his way]]. Doing so results in the biggest (creepiest) DownerEnding in the game. Note also that ''not'' doing this [[spoiler:''destroys'' the social link--or, rather, mutates it into a new link.link, and if you choose to confront him, you can eventually complete it the normal way and unlock Adachi's Persona.]]



* StandardStatusEffects: A lot of them are either changed or done away with, with the most notable being Charm and the Distress/Shocked/Frozen statuses that drop evasion to zero. New effects include Confusion, Exhaustion (an SP-draining status), and Enervation (all stats are cut in half). The Condition system from [[VideoGame/{{Persona 3}} the previous game]] is also dropped. In addition, the Amrita Soda item, which only cured three status effects in ''Persona 3'', can now cure any status ailments save for Dizzy.
* StealingTheCredit: The Inaba Police, unwittingly. Because of the nature of the Investigation Team's rescues, they can't take the credit for capturing [[spoiler:Mitsuo]] or, presumably, [[spoiler:Adachi]]. To everyone else, the [[FanNIckname IT]] are just a group of kids who have a habit of ending up in suspicious places.

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* StandardStatusEffects: A lot of them are either changed or done away with, with the most notable being Charm and the Distress/Shocked/Frozen statuses that drop evasion to zero. New effects include Confusion, Exhaustion (an SP-draining status), and Enervation (all stats are cut in half).half, and there's a chance to fall down while using a physical attack or forget what you're going to do when using a skill). The Condition system from [[VideoGame/{{Persona 3}} the previous game]] is also dropped. In addition, the Amrita Soda item, which only cured three status effects in ''Persona 3'', can now cure any status ailments save for Dizzy.
* StealingTheCredit: The Inaba Police, unwittingly. Because of the nature of the Investigation Team's rescues, they can't take the credit for capturing [[spoiler:Mitsuo]] or, presumably, [[spoiler:Adachi]]. To everyone else, the [[FanNIckname IT]] are just a group of kids who have a habit of ending up in suspicious places. Yukiko says that it's fine for the group to be proud of what they've accomplished- they just can't tell anyone.



* TheScrappy: InUniverse examples are the homeroom teachers for 2-F; Kinshiro Morooka (nicknamed "King Moron" by students) and Noriko Kashiwagi [[spoiler:who replaces the former after he gets murdered]]. The former is a JerkAss SadistTeacher who is strongly implied to be bullying kids, even those from other schools, and is infamous for long, rambling lectures/insult sessions towards his students. The latter is an obnoxiously sleazy ChristmasCake who manages to gross out and disgust her students, especially with her tendency to flirt with the male ones, to the point she becomes an InUniverse ReplacementScrappy, even though everyone ''still'' thinks of King Moron as TheScrappy.

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* TheScrappy: InUniverse examples are the homeroom teachers for 2-F; 2-2; Kinshiro Morooka (nicknamed "King Moron" by students) and Noriko Kashiwagi [[spoiler:who replaces the former after he gets murdered]]. The former is a JerkAss SadistTeacher who is strongly implied to be bullying kids, even those from other schools, and is infamous for long, rambling lectures/insult sessions towards his students. The latter is an obnoxiously sleazy ChristmasCake who manages to gross out and disgust her students, especially with her tendency to flirt with the male ones, to the point she becomes an InUniverse ReplacementScrappy, even though everyone ''still'' thinks of King Moron as TheScrappy.



* VendorTrash: You get paid in Yen at the end of each fight with the Shadows, but the Shadows also drop stuff that you can sell to the blacksmith. Not only will he pay you, but you need to sell him this stuff in order to expand his inventory.

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* VendorTrash: You get paid in Yen at the end of each fight with the Shadows, but the Shadows also drop stuff that you can sell to the blacksmith. Not only will he pay you, but you need to sell him this stuff in order to expand his inventory. You can also get certain gems that you can sell or exchange for items at the Shiroku Pub.



** The Clear Skies Musha in the [[spoiler: Hollow Forest]] in ''Golden''. Scanning it will cause most players to panic, as it possesses not only Primal Force, but ''Hassou Tobi'', the Yoshitsune-unique physical move that hits all enemies 8 times. The Musha, though, only has a very tiny strength stat, and so can't do much even with those devastating moves.

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** The Clear Skies Musha in the [[spoiler: Hollow Forest]] in ''Golden''. Scanning it will cause most players to panic, as it possesses not only Primal Force, but ''Hassou Tobi'', the Yoshitsune-unique physical move that hits all enemies 8 times.times and is considered ''the'' strongest attack in the game. The Musha, though, only has a very tiny strength stat, and so can't do much even with those devastating moves.



** Some Social Links also have these. The Rank 3 event of Yumi's social link makes it evident that it's about her relationship with her previously estranged and now dying father.

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** Some Social Links also have these. The Rank 3 event of Yumi's social link makes it evident that it's about her relationship with her previously estranged and now dying father. Rank 8 of Shu's Social Link has you overhear his mother confront him about something that happened at school, and being asked to leave without getting any pay or a rank up.



** Forms the crux of the choice that leads to the BadEnding, much like the [[VideoGame/{{Persona3}} previous game]]. [[spoiler:Nanako has just flatlined, and the Investigation Team is alone with Namatame, the one responsible for her condition in the first place. The choice comes down to either pushing him into the TV, dooming him to the Shadows, or sparing him and risk him getting away with his crimes. However, even if you decide to spare him, the rest of the Investigation Team decides to go through with it anyway unless you talk them out of it by reminding them that they want to learn the truth, not get revenge.]]
* WhenYouComingHomeDad?: Nanako asks Dojima the titular question over the phone more than once.

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** Forms the crux of the choice that leads to the BadEnding, much like the [[VideoGame/{{Persona3}} previous game]]. [[spoiler:Nanako has just flatlined, and the Investigation Team is alone with Namatame, the one responsible for her condition in the first place. The choice comes down to either pushing him into the TV, dooming him to the Shadows, or sparing him and risk him getting away with his crimes. However, even if you decide to spare him, Depending on your choices, the rest of the Investigation Team decides party may push Namatame into the TV, leave the case to go through the police, or continue with it anyway unless you talk them out the case (the latter of it by reminding them which is the only outcome that they want to learn doesn't end the truth, not get revenge.game).]]
* WhenYouComingHomeDad?: Nanako asks Dojima the titular question over the phone more than once. Similarly, Eri's husband is gone on business, leaving his son with a stepmother he barely knows.
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