History VideoGame / Persona4

23rd Jun '16 6:20:39 AM TwilightLord
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* ImprobableAge: Nanako is ''six years old''. Yes, the girl who's home alone more often than not, AND does all the laundry, AND does all the grocery shopping. ParentalAbandonment really does wonders for one's independance.

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* ImprobableAge: Nanako is ''six ''seven years old''. Yes, the girl who's home alone more often than not, AND does all the laundry, AND does all the grocery shopping. ParentalAbandonment really does wonders for one's independance.
23rd Jun '16 6:19:42 AM TwilightLord
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* LonelyRichKid: Yukiko was this until she became friends with Chie. Naoto also has elements of this, but gets better after joining the investigation squad, especially if you complete the Fortune social link. Ai has elements of it tied into her also being the AlphaBitch.


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* LonelyRichKid: Yukiko was this until she became friends with Chie. Naoto also has elements of this, but gets better after joining the investigation squad, especially if you complete the Fortune social link. Ai has elements of it tied into her also being the AlphaBitch.


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* LookBehindYou: Yosuke does this to Rise's stalker if you choose "Tackle him from the front". "Look, a Martian!" [[TooDumbToLive He falls for it completely.]]
19th Jun '16 3:07:32 AM TwilightLord
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* CriticalAnnoyance: Much like the previous game you have Teddie for an announcer during the battle who gives you information about damage taken or status effects. Unfortunately, much like MissionControl the previous game he. [[PunctuatedForEmphasis Just. Won't. Shut. Up.]] It is made slightly better by the fact that Teddie is replaced midway through by Rise but she also never shuts up and neither she nor Teddie will ever tells you anything you couldn't already see on the screen. This also becomes [[StopHelpingMe irritating because they never stop talking about the number of enemies, who defeated what enemy and what a cool move the character made]]. Unfortunately, one of the trophies in ''Golden'' requires you to hear 250 of Rise's navigation lines, which is GuideDangIt for more annoyance.
18th Jun '16 12:05:18 AM gewunomox
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** All of the Bad Endings have [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rk5DpIgpJO4 this sequence]] (spoilers!). They also play "Corridor", a [[TheLonelyPiano somber piano theme]] which plays during the Credits sequence and [[spoiler:Izanami's dungeon]]. If you have the latter happening, you're already at the TrueEnding.

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** All of the Bad Endings have [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rk5DpIgpJO4 this sequence]] (spoilers!). They also play "Corridor", a [[TheLonelyPiano [[LonelyPianoPiece somber piano theme]] which plays during the Credits sequence and [[spoiler:Izanami's dungeon]]. If you have the latter happening, you're already at the TrueEnding.
11th Jun '16 3:49:49 AM matteste
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* BrokenAesop:
** Yosuke, Naoki, and Hisano's Social Links involve them learning to come to terms with the death of a loved one. Those Aesops end up getting derailed when [[spoiler: Nanako comes BackFromTheDead]], preventing Yu from learning that lesson himself.
** Naoto crossdressing is treated very maturely and sympathetically throughout the story. However, during the School Festival, the boys are forcefully signed into a crossdressing pageant, and it's entirely PlayedForLaughs.
** Despite the CentralTheme about [[ArcWords "reaching out for the truth"]] and never ignoring an AwfulTruth, no matter how difficult or painful, everything about Inaba that might classify as "a complaint against society" [[TheComplainerIsAlwaysWrong remains unquestioned and unchallenged.]] Japanese society, overall, tends to favor the group over the individual. For example, Yukiko dislikes being forced to inherit her family's inn: turns out, [[spoiler:what she ''really'' was worried about was having to do it all alone. The issue of not being able to choose her own job is thus not really addressed at all.]] Rise dislikes being seen as a media lust object but it turns out [[spoiler:she secretly enjoys being in the spotlight. Her objectification is written off as something she can just deal with by accepting the constructed lust object as "herself".]] Yumi has a complaint about her father selfishly abandoning his wife and child. [[spoiler:Her father ends up dying in the hospital, so Yumi decides to live up to her name and "bear fruit" by dropping out of the drama club; the narrative avoids assessing her father's behavior at all by casting Yumi's misgivings as selfish.]] And lastly, Adachi has a lot of complaints about how impossible it is to be rewarded for your hard work in the current job system if you aren't talented. Whether or not these complaints are accurate is never really addressed, because [[spoiler:Adachi is a psychotic serial killer who just uses this as justification to act ForTheEvulz. Thus, his complaints about society, even if they're valid, come out of a psychotic man-child's mouth.]]
10th Jun '16 7:34:18 PM Valiona
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* DebateAndSwitch: Despite the CentralTheme about [[ArcWords "reaching out for the truth"]] and never ignoring an AwfulTruth, no matter how difficult or painful, everything about Inaba that might classify as "a complaint against society" [[TheComplainerIsAlwaysWrong remains unquestioned and unchallenged.]] Japanese society, overall, tends to favor the group over the individual. For example, Yukiko dislikes being forced to inherit her family's inn: turns out, [[spoiler:what she ''really'' was worried about was having to do it all alone. The issue of not being able to choose her own job is thus not really addressed at all.]] Rise dislikes being seen as a media lust object but it turns out [[spoiler:she secretly enjoys being in the spotlight. Her objectification is written off as something she can just deal with by accepting the constructed lust object as "herself".]] Yumi has a complaint about her father selfishly abandoning his wife and child. [[spoiler:Her father ends up dying in the hospital, so Yumi decides to live up to her name and "bear fruit" by dropping out of the drama club; the narrative avoids assessing her father's behavior at all by casting Yumi's misgivings as selfish.]] And lastly, Adachi has a lot of complaints about how impossible it is to be rewarded for your hard work in the current job system if you aren't talented. Whether or not these complaints are accurate is never really addressed, because [[spoiler:Adachi is a psychotic serial killer who just uses this as justification to act ForTheEvulz. Thus, his complaints about society, even if they're valid, come out of a psychotic man-child's mouth.]]



** Yosuke's well-intentioned "Maybe I should ask Yukiko for some private lessons", when the possibility of him studying with Yukiko is brought up. Cue bitch-slapping from Yukiko.

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** Yosuke's well-intentioned "Maybe I should ask Yukiko for some private lessons", when the possibility of him studying with Yukiko is brought up. Cue bitch-slapping from Yukiko.Yukiko, and it results in Chie and Yosuke blaming each other for the misunderstanding, with Chie pointing out that Yosuke's choice of words made it sound "creepy and wrong."



* EvilDebtCollector: The 2nd book of the Timid Teacher series deals with one.

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* EvilDebtCollector: The 2nd book of the Timid Bullied Teacher series deals with one.



** When you max out any of your party members, they never treat you differently than if you had remained rank 1 with them. If you reverse any of their links, they are pissed off at you until you make things right. During story sequences though, they are all smiles and your best friend.

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** When you max out any of your party members, they never treat you differently than if you had remained rank 1 with them. If you reverse any of their links, they are pissed off at you until you make things right. During story sequences though, they are all smiles and your best friend.



** If you wait long enough to start the Hanged Man Social Link, you still get the unnamed student worrying that Morooka will suspend him even if [[spoiler:Morooka has been dead for months.]]



** Due to story reasons, anyone you have top rescue from the TV world will always recover on the same day, meaning that the time it takes them to recover is inversely proportional to how long they spent trapped.

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** Due to story reasons, anyone you have top rescue from the TV world will always recover on the same day, day(within a few days of the deadline), meaning that the time it takes them to recover is inversely proportional to how long they spent trapped.trapped. [[spoiler:Nanako, however, remains hospitalized]].



** Ai Ebihara will have ''at least'' one example during the course of her Social Link. She'll admonish you for ''daring'' to talk to another girl while on a "date" with her. In another, she'll despise Chie for being Kou's crush if he's your Strength arcana. And lastly, she will show hostility to your other female S-Links if you've advanced to the point that she's in love with you.
** Yukiko and Chie feel this way about each other, and it's become sort of a co-dependency with RomanticTwoGirlFriendship undertones. Chie secretly resents Yukiko for her beauty and popularity and thus nurtures Yukiko's emotional frailty so she can seem stronger in comparison. Yukiko in turn secretly resents Chie's inner strength and confidence and relies on her to lead the way while knowing the guys will prefer her over Chie, cycling back into Chie's resentment. This makes up the basis of their shadows.

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** Ai Ebihara will have ''at least'' one example during the course of her Social Link. She'll admonish you for ''daring'' to talk to another girl while on a "date" with her. In another, she'll despise Chie for being Kou's crush if he's your Strength arcana.arcana (although she does eventually come to terms with the fact that he's not interested in her). And lastly, she will show hostility to your other female S-Links if you've advanced to the point that she's in love with you.
** Yukiko and Chie feel feels this way about each other, Yukiko for being beautiful, feminine and it's become sort of a co-dependency with RomanticTwoGirlFriendship undertones. Chie popular, and secretly resents derives pleasure from Yukiko being dependent on her, which, in turn, makes Chie dependent on Yukiko for her beauty and popularity and thus nurtures Yukiko's emotional frailty so she can seem stronger in comparison. Yukiko in turn secretly resents Chie's inner strength and confidence and relies on her to lead the way while knowing the guys will prefer her over Chie, cycling back into Chie's resentment. This makes up the basis sense of their shadows.self-worth.



** In Golden, [[DumbMuscle Kanji]] complains that it would really mess with his head if [[DumbassHasApoint Chie came up with good ideas]].



* RomanticTwoGirlFriendship: Chie and Yukiko could count, given the whole "Chie is my prince" scenario and their (perceived) dependence on each other.

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* RomanticTwoGirlFriendship: Chie and Yukiko could count, given the whole "Chie is my prince" scenario and their (perceived) dependence on each other. Of course, personal issues aside, they ''are'' close friends, and Chie points out that she honestly did want to save Yukiko.



* TheUnfavorite: The basketball version of the Strength link covers Kou's belief that he is a case of this [[spoiler:as his parents adopted him thinking they couldn't have children, but they wound up having a daughter anyways.]]

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* TheUnfavorite: The basketball version of the Strength link covers Kou's belief that he is a case of this [[spoiler:as his parents adopted him thinking they couldn't have children, but they wound up having a daughter anyways. He becomes suspicious when they start being less strict with him while grooming his (two-year-old) sister for her responsibilities, but in the end, he realizes that they still consider him family.]]



* ViolenceIsTheOnlyOption: Whenever you meet an important character and their Shadow, that person ''will'' deny the Shadow being a part of them, and the Shadow ''will'' try and [[KillEmAll kill everyone in sight]]. The party's attempts to [[DefiedTrope defy]] this don't work either; after they've kicked some ass though, the character faces up to themselves. [[spoiler:Well, most of the time anyway.]]

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* ViolenceIsTheOnlyOption: Whenever you meet an important character and their Shadow, that person ''will'' deny the Shadow being a part of them, and the Shadow ''will'' try and [[KillEmAll kill everyone in sight]]. The party's attempts to [[DefiedTrope defy]] this don't work either; after they've kicked some ass though, the character faces up to themselves. [[spoiler:Well, most of the time anyway.]]]] Kanji even realizes that Shadows going berserk is a step necessary to their hosts accepting them.
9th Jun '16 5:00:16 AM TwilightLord
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* BicepPolishingGesture: Kanji does this as his victory pose after winning a battle. And often outside of battle, too.
9th Jun '16 4:36:49 AM TwilightLord
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** Naoto's Social Link is one a one-month time limit from October 27th to November 27th. To avoid serious pressure problems, her social link uniquely can be done on rainy days.

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** Naoto's Social Link is one a one-month time limit from October 27th to November 27th. To avoid serious pressure problems, her social link uniquely can be done on rainy days.
9th Jun '16 4:32:27 AM TwilightLord
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* YetAnotherStupidDeath: "Oh Crap, I messed up the set up for this battle, now the enemy gets a free turn, Oh crap, the enemy's knocked everyone down with their whatever move, the enemy is using the highest elemental spell that the protag is weak against, Oh SHI-!" In other words, [[NintendoHard the norm for a [=MegaTen=] game.]]
5th Jun '16 7:35:23 AM TwilightLord
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** During the scene where the gang and Adachi are chasing the stalker that they believe to be the killer outside of Marukyu Tofu, look closely and you can see [[spoiler:Namatame's delivery truck go by]].
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