History VideoGame / Persona2

15th Oct '17 6:35:15 AM defciggy
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** It's not quite fair to just hit Jun with that, as the ''entire'' ''Innocent Sin'' cast falls into this trope though Jun takes the cake with his parental issues, with his borderline Electra complex and mommy issues. They ''all'' at least have some problem or other with their fathers. In fact, [[spoiler: the final boss of the game, Great Father, is a composite of all the characters' fathers.]]

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** It's not quite fair to just hit Jun with that, as the ''entire'' ''Innocent Sin'' cast falls into this trope though Jun takes the cake with his parental issues, with his borderline Electra complex and mommy issues. They ''all'' at least have some problem or other with their fathers. In fact, [[spoiler: the final boss of the game, Great Father, is a composite of all the characters' fathers.]]
29th Sep '17 9:38:29 PM Windrays
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* TokenMinority: The Caucasian Lisa Silverman from ''Innocent Sin,'' raised in Japan her entire life by her Japanophile parents. She's the only non-Japanese playable character in the series to date, discounting non-human characters like [[RobotGirl robot girls]] [[{{VideoGame/Persona 3}} Aigis]] and [[VideoGame/Persona4Arena Labrys]] (and both were created in a Japanese lab), and the [[spoiler:sentient Shadow]] [[{{VideoGame/Persona 4}} Teddie]] (and his ''own'' Persona is lifted from Japanese myths). Sumaru City in general also has a large array of foreigners, which the original game and its sequels mostly lack.

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* TokenMinority: The Caucasian Lisa Silverman from ''Innocent Sin,'' raised in Japan her entire life by her Japanophile parents. She's the only non-Japanese playable character in the series to date, discounting non-human characters like [[RobotGirl robot girls]] [[{{VideoGame/Persona 3}} Aigis]] and [[VideoGame/Persona4Arena Labrys]] (and both were created in a Japanese lab), and the [[spoiler:sentient Shadow]] [[{{VideoGame/Persona 4}} Teddie]] (and his ''own'' Persona is lifted from Japanese myths). Even [[{{VideoGame/Persona 5}} Ann Takamaki]], despite looking Caucasian, is still half-Japanese, half-American. Sumaru City in general also has a large array of foreigners, which the original game and its sequels mostly lack.
13th Sep '17 1:56:23 PM GrammarNavi
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* ApocalypseDayPlanner: Remarked on by Maya's coworkers during ''Eternal Punishment'''s prologue; the planets all aligned in the Grand Cross formation "this summer", but nothing happened. Those who've played the previous game remember things [[ApocalypseWow a]] [[DepopulationBomb little]] [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt differently]].

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* ApocalypseDayPlanner: JustForFun/ApocalypseDayPlanner: Remarked on by Maya's coworkers during ''Eternal Punishment'''s prologue; the planets all aligned in the Grand Cross formation "this summer", but nothing happened. Those who've played the previous game remember things [[ApocalypseWow a]] [[DepopulationBomb little]] [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt differently]].
9th Sep '17 10:07:02 AM matteste
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12th Aug '17 10:10:57 PM finalsurvivor1
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* DeadAllAlong: Two characters in ''Innocent Sin'' who appear despite having definitively died until rumors were spread turn out never to have revived: [[spoiler:Akinari Kashihara and Adolf Hitler, who are simply disguises used by Nyarlathotep]].


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** Father problems are so prevalent in ''Innocent Sin'' that [[spoiler:Nyarlathotep]]'s second form in the final battle of that game is a monstrous amalgamation of all five protagonist's fathers, headed by [[spoiler:Jun's, as Kashihara was one of Nyarlathotep's two main disguises]].


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* FinalBoss:
** In ''Innocent Sin'', Hitler confronts the party at the end of the final dungeon and fights them. After his defeat, [[spoiler:he reveals that both he and Kashihara are fakes being played by the same guy. Hitler turns into Kashihara and becomes a monster made of the party's fathers, with Kashihara at the head. Notably, it's only after the Great Father is beaten when it's revealed that the mastermind is Nyarlathotep]].
** In ''Eternal Punishment'', [[spoiler:Nyarlathotep]] makes his appearance after the fall of the New World Order and has the party go through one last dungeon, complete with Shadows of all the party members save Tatsuya. [[spoiler:Nyarlathotep]] takes on the appearance of ''Innocent Sin'' Tatsuya and fights the party with his main and true forms before a definitive defeat.
4th Aug '17 4:33:21 PM Zuxtron
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* OneSteveLimit: Averted. Tatsuya Suou reads ''a lot'' like Tatsuya Sudou, which one NPC early into ''Innocent Sin'' will point out ([[TheDevTeamThinksOfEverything though only if the player didn't change Suou's name of course]]). Likewise, Maya Amano shares the same name as Maya Okamura. Both of this factor into the plot, albeit in different ways.

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* OneSteveLimit: Averted. Tatsuya Suou reads ''a lot'' like Tatsuya Sudou, which one NPC early into ''Innocent Sin'' will point out ([[TheDevTeamThinksOfEverything ([[DevelopersForesight though only if the player didn't change Suou's name of course]]). Likewise, Maya Amano shares the same name as Maya Okamura. Both of this factor into the plot, albeit in different ways.



* TheDevTeamThinksOfEverything: Just look at your party status after Eikichi gets his legendary weapon.
27th Jul '17 5:21:29 AM matteste
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* DifficultButAwesome: Crafting stuff at Padparcha isn't the easiest thing in the world to do. Most of the materials are either won at the casino or returning multiple Rank 8 persona to get the items. However, the pros significantly outweigh the cons. Take the Hihi-Irokane armor in Eternal Punishment for example. 67 defense, 50 special defense and a hell of a boost to evasion make the armor well worth hours at the casino,



* DifficultButAwesome: Crafting stuff at Padparcha isn't the easiest thing in the world to do. Most of the materials are either won at the casino or returning multiple Rank 8 persona to get the items. However, the pros significantly outweigh the cons. Take the Hihi-Irokane armor in Eternal Punishment for example. 67 defense, 50 special defense and a hell of a boost to evasion make the armor well worth hours at the casino,
* DiscOneNuke: The Low-End Breaker Fusion Spell, which instantly kills whichever enemy has the lowest level. The only thing stopping it from being a full-blown GameBreaker is its inability to kill bosses (though rumour demons are fair game).


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* DiscOneNuke: The Low-End Breaker Fusion Spell, which instantly kills whichever enemy has the lowest level. The only thing stopping it from being a full-blown GameBreaker is its inability to kill bosses (though rumour demons are fair game).
* TheDiseaseThatShallNotBeNamed: Averted, one of the side NPC's at the chiropractor specifically wonders if he can be cured of his Alzheimer.
19th Jul '17 11:54:51 AM rmctagg09
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* UnreliableNarrator / SympatheticPOV: In ''Innocent Sin'', Katsuya acts more strict, as it's told from Tatsuya's point of view. However; he doesn't ''quite'' act the same in ''Eternal Punishment'', where the story is told from Maya's point in view.

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* UnreliableNarrator / SympatheticPOV: UnreliableNarrator: In ''Innocent Sin'', Katsuya acts more strict, as it's told from Tatsuya's point of view. However; he doesn't ''quite'' act the same in ''Eternal Punishment'', [[SympatheticPOV where the story is told from Maya's point in view.view]].



* UnbuiltTrope: ''Innocent Sin'' debuted with many of the ideas that became synonymous with the series, but it also showed just how damning it would be for a group of mentally vulnerable and immature teenagers to be put in a fight against society, cosmic entities and themselves [[spoiler:and their only achievement was turning an already bad situation even worse, dancing to the tune of one of the participants of a CosmicChessGame all the way to the end]].

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* UnbuiltTrope: ''Innocent Sin'' debuted with many of the ideas that became synonymous with the series, but it also showed just how damning it would be for a group of mentally vulnerable and immature teenagers to be put in a fight against society, cosmic entities entities, and themselves [[spoiler:and [[spoiler:with their only achievement was being turning an already bad situation even worse, dancing to the tune of one of the participants of a CosmicChessGame all the way to the end]].
18th Jul '17 12:19:47 PM matteste
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* UnbuiltTrope: ''Innocent Sin'' debuted with many of the ideas that became synonymous with the series, but it also showed just how damning it would be for a group of mentally vulnerable and immature teenagers to be put in a fight against society, cosmic entities and themselves [[spoiler:and their only achievement was turning an already bad situation even worse, dancing to the tune of one of the participants of a CosmicChessGame all the way to the end]].
28th Jun '17 9:14:51 AM syndomatic
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* DoubleEntendre: In these games and ''Persona 1'', the [[SomethingElseAlsoRises Tower]] arcana consistently has Bad affinity with female party members (meaning they either can't invoke it or get penalized with higher SP cost if they try to). Wonder why that is.
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