History VideoGame / MarioAndLuigiDreamTeam

16th May '18 2:07:05 PM HeyFella
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* SentientSands: The Sandoons enemies are little more than, well, sand dunes with eyes and three pink antennae. They only appear in the Dozing Sands.

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* SentientSands: The Sandoons Sandoon enemies are little more than, well, sand dunes with eyes and three pink antennae. They only appear in the Dozing Sands.
16th May '18 12:21:27 PM Jubileus57
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* SentientSands: The Sandoons enemies are little more than, well, sand dunes with eyes and three pink antennae. They only appear in the Dozing Sands.
17th Apr '18 11:17:29 AM Maljen
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** One set of animations for the segments where Luigi is sleeping while Starlow has to interact with him for the brothers to get through a dream has Luigi laugh and Starlow smile when she touches his mouth. The animations can look like she's kissing him.
16th Apr '18 7:46:48 PM GalacticDriftwood
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** Luigi [[http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2014/213/2/0/a_face_of_happiness_by_catimakittykat-d76ttqy.jpg apparently likes being touched somewhere on the side of his face]] as well, making a rather pleased sound. Go figure.

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** Luigi [[http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2014/213/2/0/a_face_of_happiness_by_catimakittykat-d76ttqy.jpg [[https://imgur.com/87yDRIt apparently likes being touched somewhere petted on the side of his face]] as well, making a rather pleased sound. Go figure.
14th Apr '18 11:08:51 AM Nintendoman01
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* NoMacGuffinNoWinner: Attempted during the FinalBoss. [[spoiler:Dreambert has Starlow and Peach destroy the Dream Stone, declaring that it's better for it to be destroyed than for Bowser to use its power for his plans any longer. It backfires; Bowser inhales the fragments and becomes [[RealityWarper Dreamy]] [[OneWingedAngel Bowser]].]]
14th Oct '17 4:11:14 AM HeyFella
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* AirborneMook: Par for the course, some enemies fly and can't be hit with hammers or other ground-based attacks. A variation later in the game involves enemies appearing in the background where they cannot be attacked directly. The Taunt Ball item can either defeat them, provoke them into the foreground or provoke an attack that can let the bros do tons of damage via counter-attacks.

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* AirborneMook: Par for the course, some enemies fly and can't be hit with hammers or other ground-based attacks. A variation later in the game involves enemies appearing in the background where they cannot be attacked directly. The Taunt Ball item can either defeat them, provoke them into the foreground or provoke an attack that can let the bros Bros. do tons of damage via counter-attacks.



* AmbidextrousSprite: Averted. The bros have unique sprites for running and jumping in ''16'' different directions, as opposed to 8 directions in the previous games. Because Mario always raises his left arm when jumping and Luigi has an L letter on his cap, mirroring their moves would look glaringly obvious.

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* AmbidextrousSprite: Averted. The bros Bros. have unique sprites for running and jumping in ''16'' different directions, as opposed to 8 directions in the previous games. Because Mario always raises his left arm when jumping and Luigi has an L letter on his cap, mirroring their moves would look glaringly obvious.



* AntiFrustrationFeatures: Oh no, you didn't finish the "Dodge 10 Attacks" Challenge in Pi'illo Castle and now you're level 40? Don't worry, you can use Boo Biscuits, which have the effects of making the bros both take and deal zero damage, as well as not letting them take turns either, meaning that the enemies get to do free attacks on the bros that count toward completing Expert Challenges.

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* AntiFrustrationFeatures: Oh no, you didn't finish the "Dodge 10 Attacks" Challenge in Pi'illo Castle and now you're level 40? Don't worry, you can use Boo Biscuits, which have the effects of making the bros Bros. both take and deal zero damage, as well as not letting them take turns either, meaning that the enemies get to do free attacks on the bros Bros. that count toward completing Expert Challenges.



** Animations, especially noticeable with the Mario Bros, have more frames, making them smoother. Characters also now have separate idle animations, instead of just using the first frame of their walking animation for all but a few characters like the previous games.

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** Animations, especially noticeable with the Mario Bros, Bros., have more frames, making them smoother. Characters also now have separate idle animations, instead of just using the first frame of their walking animation for all but a few characters like the previous games.



* BeefGate: The Hermite Crabs in Mushrise Park, near the entrance to Wakeport which appear as soon as you get the hammers (yes, you can fight them even before you get Bros Items). The Toad even warns you that you'll get mugged if you try to take on these monsters at this point. Played with in that although the Hermite Crabs are much tougher than the Thorbs or Capnaps in the rest of Mushrise Park and can do a lot more damage, their attack patterns are pretty easy to figure out and dodge, and if you do a preemptive strike where there's just two of them and don't forget which coconut they're hiding under, they'll never attack because they'll waste their turn getting new coconuts to hide under. Plus you can level up so quickly that it's essentially a DiscOneNuke against Grobot, Bowser and Antasma, and Torkscrew.

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* BeefGate: The Hermite Crabs in Mushrise Park, near the entrance to Wakeport which appear as soon as you get the hammers (yes, you can fight them even before you get Bros Bros. Items). The Toad even warns you that you'll get mugged if you try to take on these monsters at this point. Played with in that although the Hermite Crabs are much tougher than the Thorbs or Capnaps in the rest of Mushrise Park and can do a lot more damage, their attack patterns are pretty easy to figure out and dodge, and if you do a preemptive strike where there's just two of them and don't forget which coconut they're hiding under, they'll never attack because they'll waste their turn getting new coconuts to hide under. Plus you can level up so quickly that it's essentially a DiscOneNuke against Grobot, Bowser and Antasma, and Torkscrew.



* BoltOfDivineRetribution: Damage dealt to the enemies or Bros as a result of gear effects is delivered via sudden lightning strike. [[UpToEleven Even if you're fighting underground.]]

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* BoltOfDivineRetribution: Damage dealt to the enemies or Bros Bros. as a result of gear effects is delivered via sudden lightning strike. [[UpToEleven Even if you're fighting underground.]]



*** Another subtle nod to the above game: The poses the bros make after certain Bros. Attacks are the same ones they made when victorious in battles from ''Inside Story''. Namely, their "level up" poses for the Bye-Bye Cannon, and their "battle victory" poses for the Star Rocket.

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*** Another subtle nod to the above game: The poses the bros Bros. make after certain Bros. Attacks are the same ones they made when victorious in battles from ''Inside Story''. Namely, their "level up" poses for the Bye-Bye Cannon, and their "battle victory" poses for the Star Rocket.



** Jet Board Bash can be absolutely DEVASTATING to a powerful enemy or even a boss, possibly dealing even more damage than a Zee Egg and Star Rocket, but at the cost of less BP than the former. However, it's not THAT difficult to use, and even if you mess up the timing a little bit, it'll still do at least twice as much damage as a successful bros shell, unlike attacks like the Slingsniper, which are all-or-nothing.

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** Jet Board Bash can be absolutely DEVASTATING to a powerful enemy or even a boss, possibly dealing even more damage than a Zee Egg and Star Rocket, but at the cost of less BP than the former. However, it's not THAT difficult to use, and even if you mess up the timing a little bit, it'll still do at least twice as much damage as a successful bros Bros. shell, unlike attacks like the Slingsniper, which are all-or-nothing.



** As usual for the series, the bros' stats develop differently by nature, such as Luigi having greater defensive and 'stache stats than Mario at the cost of having lower speed and offensive stats (AKA ATK and Bros. Points). Level-up bonuses and beans can be used to balance this out or to specialize them more as the player wishes.

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** As usual for the series, the bros' Bros.' stats develop differently by nature, such as Luigi having greater defensive and 'stache stats than Mario at the cost of having lower speed and offensive stats (AKA ATK and Bros. Points). Level-up bonuses and beans can be used to balance this out or to specialize them more as the player wishes.



* HeadsIWinTailsYouLose: The first battle with Bowser. At the end of the fight, he doesn't explode into sparkles like other bosses; instead, the fight ends when you pop Antasma out of Bowser, ending the FusionDance followed by a "SCREEK!" by Antasma. Their health depleted and realizing they can't win against you in their normal forms, he and Antasma simply leap offscreen, ending the battle. Afterward, Antasma uses his remaining power to power up Bowser, who knocks the bros. out with his super fire breath before they escape.

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* HeadsIWinTailsYouLose: The first battle with Bowser. At the end of the fight, he doesn't explode into sparkles like other bosses; instead, the fight ends when you pop Antasma out of Bowser, ending the FusionDance followed by a "SCREEK!" by Antasma. Their health depleted and realizing they can't win against you in their normal forms, he and Antasma simply leap offscreen, ending the battle. Afterward, Antasma uses his remaining power to power up Bowser, who knocks the bros.Bros. out with his super fire breath before they escape.



* InfinityPlusOneSword: Star Rocket and Zee Egg, the last two Bros Attacks. On the one hand, they're found quite out the way, with the former being hidden in the final dungeon and the latter requiring you to save all 52 Pi'illos first. On the other hand, they're by far the best weapons/attacks in the game, ludicrously easy to use and able to make every other attack you have obsolete immediately (especially with the Casual Bros rank up choice). [[spoiler:Bowser Jr. can steal these away from you though.]]

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* InfinityPlusOneSword: Star Rocket and Zee Egg, the last two Bros Bros. Attacks. On the one hand, they're found quite out the way, with the former being hidden in the final dungeon and the latter requiring you to save all 52 Pi'illos first. On the other hand, they're by far the best weapons/attacks in the game, ludicrously easy to use and able to make every other attack you have obsolete immediately (especially with the Casual Bros Bros. rank up choice). [[spoiler:Bowser Jr. can steal these away from you though.]]



** Played straight later on with [[spoiler:the Zeekeeper]] talking about leading you into the light and Bowser wanting to make the Mario Bros "disappear", or at least cooked to a golden brown.

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** Played straight later on with [[spoiler:the Zeekeeper]] talking about leading you into the light and Bowser wanting to make the Mario Bros Bros. "disappear", or at least cooked to a golden brown.



** The Fire Flower Bros Attack which is inferior to everything else for single enemies and outclassed by a massive degree in every respect by the Zee Egg. Fire Flower is, however, excellent for dealing with the {{Bee|Afraid}}hoss enemies of Somnom Woods, which have a [[KillItWithFire weakness to fire]].

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** The Fire Flower Bros Bros. Attack which is inferior to everything else for single enemies and outclassed by a massive degree in every respect by the Zee Egg. Fire Flower is, however, excellent for dealing with the {{Bee|Afraid}}hoss enemies of Somnom Woods, which have a [[KillItWithFire weakness to fire]].



* ShoutOut: Thunder Sass tells the Mario Bros that [[http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/do-you-even-lift "he can tell that they lift"]].

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* ShoutOut: Thunder Sass tells the Mario Bros Bros. that [[http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/do-you-even-lift "he can tell that they lift"]].



* TakingYouWithMe: The [[spoiler:Pi'illodium]] will self-destruct once it runs extremely low on HP. If you don't destroy it in time, it will self-destruct (taunting you before it does) and cause massive damage. If both of the Mario Bros get KO'd, it's a game over (or loss in the Battle Ring). Interestingly, the countdown is in real time, rather than being turn-based. As such, the execution time of attacks becomes critical.

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* TakingYouWithMe: The [[spoiler:Pi'illodium]] will self-destruct once it runs extremely low on HP. If you don't destroy it in time, it will self-destruct (taunting you before it does) and cause massive damage. If both of the Mario Bros Bros. get KO'd, it's a game over (or loss in the Battle Ring). Interestingly, the countdown is in real time, rather than being turn-based. As such, the execution time of attacks becomes critical.



** Pi'illodium looks like one when it activates the self destruct timer in its own battle (oddly, this is a 30 second count down in real time, despite the turn based battle format). However, its quite possible to survive the self-destruct and win anyway, especially with a Boo Biscuit which turns the Bros into [[{{Intangibility}} Intangible Men]]. It's also entirely possible for the player to defeat Pi'illodium before it even activates the self-destruct.

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** Pi'illodium looks like one when it activates the self destruct timer in its own battle (oddly, this is a 30 second count down in real time, despite the turn based battle format). However, its quite possible to survive the self-destruct and win anyway, especially with a Boo Biscuit which turns the Bros Bros. into [[{{Intangibility}} Intangible Men]]. It's also entirely possible for the player to defeat Pi'illodium before it even activates the self-destruct.



** Popple is much crueler in this game than in ''Superstar Saga'', especially when he [[spoiler:turns on the bros after they beat the Wiggler.]]

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** Popple is much crueler in this game than in ''Superstar Saga'', especially when he [[spoiler:turns on the bros Bros. after they beat the Wiggler.]]



* VehicularTurnabout: If you use a jump attack on [[spoiler:Bowser Jr's Koopa Clown Car]] while he's not in it, the bros hijack it, and can then [[spoiler:chase ''him'', throwing random junk at him to do damage]].

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* VehicularTurnabout: If you use a jump attack on [[spoiler:Bowser Jr's Koopa Clown Car]] while he's not in it, the bros Bros. hijack it, and can then [[spoiler:chase ''him'', throwing random junk at him to do damage]].



** For Giant Luigi battles, Mount Pajamaja. The previous giant boss Drilldigger was pretty easy, and you even had a point in the fight where Dreambert tells Luigi to heal back to full health, then lets him use Rhythm Mushroom non-stop until he does. The battle with Mount Pajamaja? Has a strategy needed to weaken the boss for attack, a much wider range of moves, some attacks that knock Mario away, preventing the use of Bros attacks, and some nice strategy needed to stop him healing. Think of it as a nice warning about the next few such bosses, who will certainly not go kind on anyone...

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** For Giant Luigi battles, Mount Pajamaja. The previous giant boss Drilldigger was pretty easy, and you even had a point in the fight where Dreambert tells Luigi to heal back to full health, then lets him use Rhythm Mushroom non-stop until he does. The battle with Mount Pajamaja? Has a strategy needed to weaken the boss for attack, a much wider range of moves, some attacks that knock Mario away, preventing the use of Bros Bros. attacks, and some nice strategy needed to stop him healing. Think of it as a nice warning about the next few such bosses, who will certainly not go kind on anyone...
15th Aug '17 11:22:14 PM HeyFella
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* MatryoshkaObject: Mammoshka a mammoth like creature inside a whole horde of mammoth like shells each slightly bigger than the one inside it. The actual creature even turns out to be less than half the size of the thing the Mario Brothers start out facing!

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* MatryoshkaObject: Mammoshka Mammoshka, a mammoth like mammoth-like creature inside a whole horde of mammoth like shells shells, each slightly bigger than the one inside it. The actual creature even turns out to be less than half the size of the thing the Mario Brothers start out facing!
15th Aug '17 2:35:43 PM Jubileus57
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* MatryoshkaObject: Mammoshka a mammoth like creature inside a whole horde of mammoth like shells each slightly bigger than the one inside it. The actual creature even turns out to be less than half the size of the thing the Mario Brothers start out facing!
25th Jul '17 7:39:15 AM 8BrickMario
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** The art style got even more vibrant and colorful for this game, perfectly reflecting the theme about dreams.

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** The art style got even more vibrant and colorful for this game, perfectly reflecting the theme about dreams. The environment is now composed of polygonal models as well.


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* ArtShift: The Dream World has a flatter, more cartoony style with less shading.
1st Jul '17 3:33:00 PM HarpieSiren
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* {{Foreshadowing}}: Why is it that, [[spoiler:for being the main antagonist]], Antasma has [[spoiler:little to no direct conflict]] with the Mario Bros., while [[spoiler:Bowser and his minions are constantly stirring up trouble?]] Furthermore, [[spoiler:Bowser's]] visage is all over [[spoiler:Neo Bowser Castle]], and even the ''name'' of the place; why does [[spoiler:Antasma]] get such little emphasis? [[spoiler:Because he isn't the main antagonist.]]

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* {{Foreshadowing}}: {{Foreshadowing}}:
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Why is it that, [[spoiler:for being the main antagonist]], Antasma has [[spoiler:little to no direct conflict]] with the Mario Bros., while [[spoiler:Bowser and his minions are constantly stirring up trouble?]] Furthermore, [[spoiler:Bowser's]] visage is all over [[spoiler:Neo Bowser Castle]], and even the ''name'' of the place; why does [[spoiler:Antasma]] get such little emphasis? [[spoiler:Because he isn't the main antagonist.]]]]
** When Antasma first teams up with Bowser he ''outright states'' his intentions for teaming up with Bowser, albeit in a way that makes it easily overlooked. [[spoiler: "I vanted to steal Peach's power...But I changed my mind! You are much stronger...and evil!" Is it any wonder Bowser ended up playing him for the fool?]]
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