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22nd May '16 3:40:52 PM nombretomado
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* LoadsAndLoadsOfLoading: Good lord, did the original ''Blood Omen'' ever have this. The PSX version was the worst offender, with load times in the double digits ''just getting into and out of the inventory screen''. The PC version was somewhat better, but, {{egregious}}ly, when you buy the game from the PS3's store and play it ''directly off the system's harddrive'', the Loads and Loads of Loading is still present.

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* LoadsAndLoadsOfLoading: Good lord, did the original ''Blood Omen'' ever have this. The PSX version was the worst offender, with load times in the double digits ''just getting into and out of the inventory screen''. The PC version was somewhat better, but, {{egregious}}ly, when you buy the game from the PS3's [=PS3=]'s store and play it ''directly off the system's harddrive'', the Loads and Loads of Loading is still present.
21st May '16 5:11:14 AM Sabrewing
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* DolledUpInstallment: ''Soul Reaver'' started out as an unrelated game called "Shifter", although no actual development was ever done on it before [[IncrediblyLamePun shifting]] it into a ''Legacy Of Kain'' game. ''Blood Omen 2'' similarly utilizes unused concepts and ideas for two cancelled unrelated games, "Sirens" and "Chakan", that were adapted to fit the story the team had worked out on their own for the game.

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* DolledUpInstallment: ''Soul Reaver'' started out as an unrelated game called "Shifter", although no actual development was ever done on it before [[IncrediblyLamePun shifting]] it into a ''Legacy Of Kain'' game. ''Blood Omen 2'' similarly utilizes unused concepts and ideas for two cancelled unrelated games, "Sirens" and "Chakan", "[[ComicBook/ChakanTheForeverMan Chakan]]", that were adapted to fit the story the team had worked out on their own for the game.
15th Apr '16 4:50:57 PM aurast
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** Another one is in the Sarafan Stronghold, after Moebius closes the gates to the tomb of William the Just. If you walk too close at one point in the gate, you pass through. You cannot leave, except by resetting.
15th Apr '16 4:40:25 PM aurast
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* DeathByIrony: [[spoiler:Moebius]]'s demise combines this with RasputinianDeath. [[spoiler:First, he's beheaded by Kain near the end of ''Blood Omen''. He's almost immediately resurrected and teleported to the Vampire Citadel by the Elder God, where he's killed by [[FutureBadass older]] Kain, literally minutes after his first death. When Moebius's spirit awakens in the Spectral Realm, he's stabbed in the back by Raziel and sent to feed the Wheel of Fate, supervised by the very deity he worships. While Time Streamer's soul meets its end at this point, his ''body'' does not. Raziel possesses it to enter the Material Realm, only to be instantly pierced by Kain, which is exactly what he wants.]]

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* DeathByIrony: [[spoiler:Moebius]]'s demise combines this with RasputinianDeath. [[spoiler:First, he's beheaded by Kain near the end of ''Blood Omen''. He's almost immediately resurrected and teleported to the Vampire Citadel by the Elder God, where he's killed by [[FutureBadass older]] Kain, literally minutes after his first death. When Moebius's spirit awakens in the Spectral Realm, he's stabbed in the back by Raziel and sent to feed the Wheel of Fate, supervised by the very deity he worships. While the Time Streamer's soul meets its end at this point, his ''body'' does not. Raziel possesses it to enter the Material Realm, only to be instantly pierced by Kain, which is exactly what he wants.]]
15th Apr '16 4:14:08 PM aurast
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** Interestingly, the games show a steady and subtle evolution in the world due to the pillar's corruption, which only grows with time. By the time of Blood Omen (30 years after the corruption) the world is world is dark and scary, but humans still live and thrive. By the time of Blood Omen 2 the world is a wasteland where the humans still live in somewhat civilized society, but are oppressed by the new Serafan Order and the ecosystem is dying or is hellishly mutated. By the time of Soul Reaver however, the world is a post apocalyptic hell hole of a wasteland where recorded history has ended, humanity as been reduced to a single secluded citadel and vampiric civilizacion as been confined to scavenger feral vampires and the isolated vampire lieutenants. Soul Reaver 2 shows the variations of the time periods in detail.

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** Interestingly, the games show a steady and subtle evolution in the world due to the pillar's corruption, which only grows with time. By the time of Blood Omen (30 years after the corruption) the world is world is dark and scary, but humans still live and thrive. By the time of Blood Omen 2 the world is a wasteland where the humans still live in somewhat civilized society, but are oppressed by the new Serafan Sarafan Order and the ecosystem is dying or is hellishly mutated. By the time of Soul Reaver however, the world is a post apocalyptic hell hole of a wasteland where recorded history has ended, humanity as been reduced to a single secluded citadel and vampiric civilizacion as been confined to scavenger feral vampires and the isolated vampire lieutenants. Soul Reaver 2 shows the variations of the time periods in detail.



* DemonOfHumanOrigin: Kain struck a deal with a necromancer to escape hell, and was returned to Nosgoth as a vampire for it. And in the sequel ''Soul Reaver'', his childe Raziel strikes a similar deal with the Elder God and returns as a soul-devouring apparition.

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* DemonOfHumanOrigin: Kain struck a deal with a necromancer to escape hell, and was returned to Nosgoth as a vampire for it. And in the sequel ''Soul Reaver'', his childe lieutenant Raziel strikes a similar deal with the Elder God and returns as a soul-devouring apparition.



* DolledUpInstallment: ''Soul Reaver'' started out as an unrelated game called "Shifter", although no actual development was ever done on it before [[IncrediblyLamePun shifting]] it into a ''Legacy Of Kain'' game. ''Blood Omen 2'' similarly utilizes unused concepts and ideas for two canceled unrelated games, "Sirens" and "Chakan", that were adapted to fit the story the team had worked out on their own for the game.

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* DolledUpInstallment: ''Soul Reaver'' started out as an unrelated game called "Shifter", although no actual development was ever done on it before [[IncrediblyLamePun shifting]] it into a ''Legacy Of Kain'' game. ''Blood Omen 2'' similarly utilizes unused concepts and ideas for two canceled cancelled unrelated games, "Sirens" and "Chakan", that were adapted to fit the story the team had worked out on their own for the game.



* FloweryElizabethanEnglish: most of the dialog is Shakespearean speech, laden with archaisms and florid language.

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* FloweryElizabethanEnglish: most of the dialog dialogue is Shakespearean speech, laden with archaisms and florid language.



** Kain's line in ''Blood Omen'' ("Alas, poor Nupraptor - I knew him well.") is the famous--and often misquoted--line from Shakespeare's ''Hamlet'' ("Alas, poor Yorick! I knew him, Horatio.") and both lines are spoken when the protagonist obtains the head/skull of Nupraptor/Yorick.

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** Kain's line in ''Blood Omen'' ("Alas, poor Nupraptor - I knew him well.well. Well, not really.") is the famous--and often misquoted--line from Shakespeare's ''Hamlet'' ("Alas, poor Yorick! I knew him, Horatio.") and both lines are spoken when the protagonist obtains the head/skull of Nupraptor/Yorick.



** Later [[spoiler:he gets over being a Sarafan Inquisitor by finding them to be the KnightTemplar cult of butchers they were, but still continues to hate Kain to a less severe extent as its literally what's been driving him for the last milleninia of time he has experienced since his rebirth as a wraith.]]

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** Later [[spoiler:he gets over being a Sarafan Inquisitor by finding them to be the KnightTemplar cult of butchers they were, but still continues to hate Kain to a less severe extent as its literally what's been driving him for the last milleninia millennia of time he has experienced since his rebirth as a wraith.]]



* NonLinearSequel: There's the first game, which involved time travel. Then, ''Soul Reaver'' takes place thousands of years in the future. ''Soul Reaver 2'' has the main character traveling in time, so it's a partial prequel to the whole series and ''also'' happens between the first and second games. Then there's ''Blood Omen 2'', which takes place after the original, but before ''Soul Reaver'' in an ''alternate time line'' created in both ''Soul Reaver 2'' and the (so far) last game, ''Defiance'' which takes place both concurrently with the original ''Blood Omen'' and five hundred years before that.

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* NonLinearSequel: There's the first game, which involved time travel. Then, ''Soul Reaver'' takes place thousands of years in the future. ''Soul Reaver 2'' has the main character traveling travelling in time, so it's a partial prequel to the whole series and ''also'' happens between the first and second games. Then there's ''Blood Omen 2'', which takes place after the original, but before ''Soul Reaver'' in an ''alternate time line'' created in both ''Soul Reaver 2'' and the (so far) last game, ''Defiance'' which takes place both concurrently with the original ''Blood Omen'' and five hundred years before that.



* SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism: It zig-zags. A good general view is, however, the story gets more idealistic as it veers into Type 2 of the Trope above. You'll also notice Kain is incredibly cynical and fatalistic in the ''Blood Omen'' games and seems to be in ''Soul Reaver'', but he starts to show signs of fighting back when he gives his TakeAThirdOption speech at the beggining of ''Soul Reaver 2''. Raziel is always idealistic, but that doesn't make good things happen until ''Defiance''. A noticed trend is that Raziel acts for the right reasons and does the wrong thing, Kain acts for the wrong reason and does the right thing. [[spoiler: Ends up as EarnYourHappyEnding if you accept the ending of]]''[[spoiler:Defiance]]''[[spoiler:but not so much if you still think there's NoEnding]].

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* SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism: It zig-zags. A good general view is, however, the story gets more idealistic as it veers into Type 2 of the Trope above. You'll also notice Kain is incredibly cynical and fatalistic in the ''Blood Omen'' games and seems to be in ''Soul Reaver'', but he starts to show signs of fighting back when he gives his TakeAThirdOption speech at the beggining beginning of ''Soul Reaver 2''. Raziel is always idealistic, but that doesn't make good things happen until ''Defiance''. A noticed trend is that Raziel acts for the right reasons and does the wrong thing, Kain acts for the wrong reason and does the right thing. [[spoiler: Ends up as EarnYourHappyEnding if you accept the ending of]]''[[spoiler:Defiance]]''[[spoiler:but not so much if you still think there's NoEnding]].



* SophisticatedAsHell: Sort of. After spending five games speaking in eloquent, faux-Shakespearian dialog, Kain's reaction upon seeing [[spoiler:the Elder God]] at the end of ''Defiance'' is simply, [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEQVULC9PwA "What in the hell...']]

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* SophisticatedAsHell: Sort of. After spending five games speaking in eloquent, faux-Shakespearian dialog, dialogue, Kain's reaction upon seeing [[spoiler:the Elder God]] at the end of ''Defiance'' is simply, [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEQVULC9PwA "What in the hell...']]



* SummonMagic: Used in-game by some enemies. In the story as well as the game, this and teleportation are the specialty of the guardian of dimension, the planer Azimuth, as well as some of her subordinates. Not content with summoning creatures from other worlds, she takes a time-streaming device from [[TimeMaster Moebius, the guardian of time]], in order to summon creatures from other eras, [[spoiler: such as Turel]] in ''defiance''.

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* SummonMagic: Used in-game by some enemies. In the story as well as the game, this and teleportation are the specialty speciality of the guardian of dimension, the planer Azimuth, as well as some of her subordinates. Not content with summoning creatures from other worlds, she takes a time-streaming device from [[TimeMaster Moebius, the guardian of time]], in order to summon creatures from other eras, [[spoiler: such as Turel]] in ''defiance''.



* TemporalParadox: It's stated that one can't actually ''alter'' time because [[StableTimeLoop going back in time to change the past]] [[YouAlreadyChangedThePast causes the time-traveler to be part of the events that have already happened and led to the future]]. Causing a paradox, however, such as taking an item from one point in time and bringing it into contact with itself at a different point in time, makes the timeline "vulnerable" to change at that moment, in that place. Time ''hates'' being played in such a manner, and will ''violently'' restructure itself to fit the alteration. So many characters go to such absurd lengths to manipulate Raziel because he's [[spoiler:a walking paradox with his own soul clinging to his arm]] and thus has the potential to alter the timeline with every action he takes.

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* TemporalParadox: It's stated that one can't actually ''alter'' time because [[StableTimeLoop going back in time to change the past]] [[YouAlreadyChangedThePast causes the time-traveler time-traveller to be part of the events that have already happened and led to the future]]. Causing a paradox, however, such as taking an item from one point in time and bringing it into contact with itself at a different point in time, makes the timeline "vulnerable" to change at that moment, in that place. Time ''hates'' being played in such a manner, and will ''violently'' restructure itself to fit the alteration. So many characters go to such absurd lengths to manipulate Raziel because he's [[spoiler:a walking paradox with his own soul clinging to his arm]] and thus has the potential to alter the timeline with every action he takes.
15th Apr '16 3:41:12 AM aurast
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*** Thankfully, WordofGod said Kain had saved the king's daughter in every timeline albeit for different reasons.

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*** Thankfully, WordofGod WordOfGod said Kain had saved the king's daughter in every timeline albeit for different reasons.
11th Apr '16 1:01:24 PM DrakeClawfang
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The fate of the franchise at large is unclear. ''Defiance'' ended on a cliffhanger, albeit with most major plotlines resolved. A sixth title, a direct sequel to ''Defiance'', was cancelled mid-development and the parent companies that own the series have shown little interest in reviving it again. Kain and Raziel have also appeared as bonus characters in ''[[Franchise/TombRaider Lara Croft and the Guardian of Light]]''. In 2013, ''VideoGame/{{Nosgoth}}'' was announced as a team-based free-to-play multiplayer game based in the years after Kain tossed Raziel into the Abyss in ''Soul Reaver'' before Raziel emerged from the Underworld, and involves humanity's final attempt to wipe out the vampires and escape their subjugation.

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The fate of the franchise at large is unclear. ''Defiance'' ended on a cliffhanger, albeit with most major plotlines resolved. A sixth title, a direct sequel to ''Defiance'', was cancelled mid-development and the parent companies that own the series have shown little interest in reviving it again. Kain and Raziel have also appeared as bonus characters in ''[[Franchise/TombRaider Lara Croft and the Guardian of Light]]''. In 2013, ''VideoGame/{{Nosgoth}}'' was announced as a team-based free-to-play multiplayer game based in the years after Kain tossed Raziel into the Abyss in ''Soul Reaver'' before Raziel emerged from the Underworld, and involves humanity's final attempt to wipe out the vampires and escape their subjugation.
subjugation. However, in 2016 the game was canned, once again leaving the future of the series ambiguous.
2nd Apr '16 8:52:56 PM tvtropeseditor
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** Human Citadel in the ''Soul Reaver'' again in a place where you have no need to go.

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** Human Citadel in the ''Soul Reaver'' again in a place where you have no need to go. There's also 'the Lighthouse' and the ruins of Nupraptor's Retreat.
18th Mar '16 6:48:41 AM tvtropeseditor
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* DecoyAntagonist: Kain is set up as the recurring antagonist in the Soul Reaver games but [[spoiler: Raziel lets him go at about the end of Soul Reaver 2's first act]].
18th Mar '16 6:31:45 AM tvtropeseditor
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* BigBad: [[spoiler:The Elder God]], who is the main reason everything is going to hell in Nosgoth by virtue of setting up most of the major wars and power struggles in history. [[spoiler:The Hylden Lord]] also counts.

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* BigBad: [[spoiler:The Elder God]], who is the main reason everything is going to hell in Nosgoth by virtue of setting up most of the major wars and power struggles in history. [[spoiler:The Hylden Lord]] also counts. Kain himself is one in Soul Reaver: Legacy of Kain.
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