History VideoGame / KaiserreichLegacyOfTheWeltkrieg

16th Sep '17 2:24:47 PM Specialist290
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** The presence of any "villains" in the Second American Civil War comes down more to personal politics than any actual inherent evilness in the factions and their leaders, save perhaps for Douglas [=MacArthur=], who can take over the USA in a military coup. The American Union State under Huey Long is able to restrain the worst tendencies of its southern base and pursues a progressive economic agenda that still preserves American market economics. The Combined Syndicates of America follow a form of workplace democracy, and pursue expanded worker's rights and absolute racial and sexual equality. The United States under John Nance Garner or Charles Curtis wants to restore the Union and maintain its traditional mix of democracy and market economics under the Constitution. The Pacific States of America mostly just want to be left out of all the chaos going on, but can potentially restore the USA if someone else wins. If the CSA or AUS turn nasty, it will be ''after'' the war, not during it.

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** The presence of any "villains" in the Second American Civil War comes down more to personal politics than any actual inherent evilness in the factions and their leaders, save perhaps for Douglas [=MacArthur=], who can take over the USA in a military coup. The American Union State under Huey Long is able to restrain the worst tendencies of its southern base and pursues a progressive economic agenda that still preserves American market economics. The Combined Syndicates of America follow a form of workplace democracy, and pursue expanded worker's rights and absolute racial and sexual equality. The United States under John Nance Garner or Charles Curtis wants to restore the Union and maintain its traditional mix of democracy and market economics under the Constitution. The Pacific States of America mostly just want to be left out of all the chaos going on, but can potentially restore the USA if someone else wins. And even if [=MacArthur=] does take control, he has the option of voluntarily relinquishing his emergency powers back to a civilian-controlled government once the crisis is over. If the CSA or AUS turn nasty, it will be ''after'' the war, not during it.
13th Sep '17 4:53:47 PM Specialist290
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*** Compounding this is the fact that, if the Union of Britain is still around in 1944, he writes [[Literature/NineteenEightyFour a book]] [[AllohistoricalAllusion about how much more awesome Britain will be in the next forty years]].


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** Speaking of China, the Japanese are still supporting a Manchurian puppet state in opposition to the legitimate Chinese government -- except in this world, the puppet's a republican splinter state while China is ruled by a restored Qing Empire under Pu Yi, the exact opposite of the historical situation.
10th Sep '17 10:16:03 AM Magnimik
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* [[DroppedABridgeOnHim Dropped a Bridge on Them ]]: In the Socialist Republic of Italy, [[spoiler: Mussolini and most of the Italian Totalists die in a plane crash by 1949. If the Totalists are in power, they will disperse and a new government will be chosen]].
** [[spoiler: The plane crash is an expy for the historical Superga air disaster of 1949, which killed the Torino football (soccer) team]].

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* [[DroppedABridgeOnHim Dropped a Bridge on Them ]]: In the Socialist Republic of Italy, [[spoiler: Mussolini and most of the Italian Totalists die in a plane crash by 1949. If the Totalists are in power, they will disperse and a new government will be chosen]].
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chosen. The plane crash is an expy for allusion to the historical Superga air disaster of 1949, which killed the Torino football (soccer) team]].
10th Sep '17 8:08:14 AM Bep
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** Leni Riefenstahl ends up directing a movie about [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything Adolf Hitler's heroism and valor combined with a message about Germany superiority.]]

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** Leni Riefenstahl ends up directing a movie about [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything Adolf Hitler's heroism and valor combined with a message about Germany German superiority.]]
9th Sep '17 12:49:47 PM po8crg
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**[[spoiler: The plane crash is an expy for the historical Superga air disaster of 1949, which killed the Torino football (soccer) team]].
4th Sep '17 9:46:09 AM Specialist290
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* ForWantOfANail: In our timeline, absolute monarchism and syndicalism became discredited with the collapse of the German/Austro-Hungarian/Ottoman and Russian empires as well as Marxism being the ideology that lead a revolution in Russia. The post WWII world also saw decolonization and a moving of industry out of the west and into the third world, making a resurgence of monarchism and syndicalism relatively impossible. Thus, the ColdWar ensured that Marxism and Capitalism would be the dominant left and right ideologies. In the world of Kaiserreich, Marxism's failure in Russia, but syndicalism's success in France has lead to syndicalism remaining dominant on the left and monarchism still being a viable right wing ideology due to Imperial Germany's dominance.

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* ForWantOfANail: In our timeline, absolute monarchism and syndicalism became discredited with the collapse of the German/Austro-Hungarian/Ottoman and Russian empires as well as Marxism being the ideology that lead a revolution in Russia. The post WWII world also saw decolonization and a moving of industry out of the west and into the third world, making a resurgence of monarchism and syndicalism relatively impossible. Thus, the ColdWar ensured that Marxism and Capitalism would be the dominant left and right ideologies. In the world of Kaiserreich, Marxism's failure in Russia, but syndicalism's success in France has lead to syndicalism remaining dominant on the left and monarchism still being a viable right wing ideology due to Imperial Germany's dominance. dominance, while traditional parliamentary and representative democracy has seen its credibility badly eroded.
3rd Sep '17 10:06:39 PM Specialist290
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*** Hermann Goering and Joachim Von Ribbentrop administer Mittelafrika for the German Empire.

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*** Hermann Goering and Joachim Von Ribbentrop administer Mittelafrika for the German Empire.Empire -- in theory. In actuality they lord over the place like old-school absolute despots, and the Fatherland basically turns a blind eye to their dealings so long as Berlin gets its cut.



** UsefulNotes/FranklinDRoosevelt succumbs to polio in 1921.
** UsefulNotes/DwightDEisenhower is a general in Douglas [=MacArthur=]'s Junta that can come to power assuming a dictatorial US Federal government wins the civil war when [=MacArthur=] dies

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** UsefulNotes/FranklinDRoosevelt succumbs to polio in 1921. \n Previous versions of the mod had him successfully assassinated by Giuseppe Zangara in 1933.
** UsefulNotes/DwightDEisenhower is a general in Douglas [=MacArthur=]'s Junta that can come to power assuming a dictatorial US Federal government wins the civil war when [=MacArthur=] diesdies.
2nd Sep '17 5:45:51 PM Magnimik
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** Non-[=NatPop=] fundamentalists presented by Coughlin's faction in AUS, any other Pope than Innitzer in the Italian Federation and Turkestani rulers.

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** Non-[=NatPop=] fundamentalists are presented by Coughlin's faction in AUS, any other Pope than Innitzer in the Italian Federation and Turkestani rulers.



** [[https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_P849AXkAEaEpk.jpg:large This loading screen]] is based on the photo of the Soviet soldiers raising a flag over the Reichstag, which symbolizes the triumph over the Nazi regime. The flag in the screen, however, is changed to the flag of the Russian State which is led by [[ANaziByAnyOtherName the Savinkov's National Populists, the KR version of Nazis]].

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** [[https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_P849AXkAEaEpk.jpg:large This loading screen]] is based on the photo of the Soviet soldiers raising a flag over the Reichstag, which symbolizes the triumph over the Nazi regime. The flag in the screen, however, is changed to the flag of the Russian State which is led by [[ANaziByAnyOtherName the Savinkov's National Populists, the KR version of Nazis]].
2nd Sep '17 4:34:59 PM Magnimik
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** Totalist factions led by Mosley, Mussolini and Valois can be described as [[CommieNazis the red Fascists]] with their emphasis on authoritarism, fervent nationalism and military, while differing with real life Fascists and KR National Populists with their stances on the economic issues and revolutionary rhetoric.

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** Totalist factions led by Mosley, Mussolini and Valois can be described as [[CommieNazis the red Fascists]] with their emphasis on authoritarism, fervent nationalism and military, while differing with from the real life Fascists and KR National Populists with in their stances on the economic issues and more revolutionary rhetoric.
2nd Sep '17 4:12:31 PM Magnimik
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* ADayInTheLimelight: The entire mod counts as one for historical figures in our timeline like Huey Long, John Reed, Nikolai Bukharin, Oswald Mosely and Pyotr Wrangel that never rose to significant prominence despite their potential due to a German victory in World War I. Significant figures in our timeline like Stalin, Franklin Delano Roosevelt and Churchill have downplayed roles or like in the case of Roosevelt, are outright dead.



* LesCollaborateurs: While both Transamur under Alexander Kolchak and the Fengtian Republic under Zhang Zuolin start as this to Japan, they can later overthrow the Japanese yoke and unite Russia and China respectively for themselves.



* ADayInTheLimelight: The entire mod counts as one for historical figures in our timeline like Huey Long, John Reed, Nikolai Bukharin, Oswald Mosely and Pyotr Wrangel that never rose to significant prominence despite their potential due to a German victory in World War I. Significant figures in our timeline like Stalin, Franklin Delano Roosevelt and Churchill have downplayed roles or like in the case of Roosevelt, are outright dead.



* EastGermany: Can be recreated for all intents and purposes, coupled with its signature flag. A softer version of it can exist if it's ruled by Syndicalists, but a proper East Germany would obviously be closer to Totalism. To achieve this, you must take over Germany as a Totalist nation and either just demand and release Imperial Germany's eastern territory (resulting in a monarchist west and Totalist East) or release Prussia (which more or less was East Germany's predecessor in terms of authoritarian militarism). You can take this UpToEleven by releasing the entire German Empire under a Totalist Government, making the German Democratic Republic not just East Germany.



* EvilColonialist: Hermann Göring in Mittelafrika can force the native population to expand the mines of Katanga under horrible labor conditions and displace Africans from their homes during the construction of a powerplant.



* TheFundamentalist: Zhang Tianran of the Shangqing Tianguo, Cardinal Innitzer led Italy can also be this. The Carlist bloc can be an alliance of this well.

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* TheFundamentalist: TheFundamentalist:
** It is quite interesting that most of the [[ANaziByAnyOtherName National Populist movements]] in Kaiserreich have a strong fundamentalist streak, which usually wasn't a part of their Fascist countreparts in OTL. Examples include Pelley's faction in AUS, Codreanu's Iron Guard in Romania (though the Iron Guard was ultra-religious in real life as well), which ideologies contain large religious elements while Shangqing Tianguo under
Zhang Tianran of I-Kuan-Tao and the Shangqing Tianguo, Cardinal Italian Federation under the pope Theodor Innitzer led Italy can also be this. The Carlist bloc can be an alliance of this well.(as Julius IV) are directly ruled by the religious heads.
** Non-[=NatPop=] fundamentalists presented by Coughlin's faction in AUS, any other Pope than Innitzer in the Italian Federation and Turkestani rulers.



** Kim Philby, a double agent for the Soviet Union in real life, can be a minister for ''both'' Totalists and Market Liberals in the Union of Britain.

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** Kim Philby, a British double agent for the Soviet Union in real life, can be a minister for ''both'' Totalists and Market Liberals in the Union of Britain.



** In real life, UsefulNotes/FranciscoFranco is famous for destroying the Spanish Republic during the UsefulNotes/SpanishCivilWar and restoration of monarchy in Spain. In Kaiserreich, Franco can abolish the Spanish monarchy and establish a Republic after the Civil War.

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** In real life, UsefulNotes/FranciscoFranco is famous for destroying destroyed the Spanish Republic during the UsefulNotes/SpanishCivilWar and restoration of restored the monarchy in Spain. In Kaiserreich, Franco can abolish the Spanish monarchy and establish a Republic after the Civil War.War.
** [[https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_P849AXkAEaEpk.jpg:large This loading screen]] is based on the photo of the Soviet soldiers raising a flag over the Reichstag, which symbolizes the triumph over the Nazi regime. The flag in the screen, however, is changed to the flag of the Russian State which is led by [[ANaziByAnyOtherName the Savinkov's National Populists, the KR version of Nazis]].



** Totalists are this for Communists (and more specifically Stalinists, in the same way National Populists are Nazis as far as coding is concerned).
* OneFederationLimit: Averted. The Italian Federation, the Anarchist Federation of Iberia (syndicate Spain), the Danubian Federation, and the Princely Federation(pro independent India) all exist or can form during the course of the game.
* OneNationUnderCopyright: Allgemeine Ostasiatische Gesellschaft, Germany's colony in southern China. The Syndicalist point of view is that all capitalist countries are this.
** Legally speaking, the AOG isn't a German colony. That doesn't really weaken the point though, since what it ''is'' is a German corporation that effectively governs half of the de jure Qing Empire.

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** Totalists are this for Communists (and more specifically Stalinists, in Totalist factions led by Mosley, Mussolini and Valois can be described as [[CommieNazis the same way red Fascists]] with their emphasis on authoritarism, fervent nationalism and military, while differing with real life Fascists and KR National Populists are Nazis as far as coding is concerned).
with their stances on the economic issues and revolutionary rhetoric.
* OneFederationLimit: Averted. The Italian Federation, the Anarchist Federation of Iberia (syndicate Spain), the Danubian Federation, and the Princely Federation(pro independent India) Federation (non-affiliated Indian state) all exist or can form be formed during the course of the game.
* OneNationUnderCopyright: Allgemeine Ostasiatische Gesellschaft, Germany's colony in southern China. The Syndicalist point of view is that all capitalist countries are this.
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this. Legally speaking, the AOG isn't a German colony. That doesn't really weaken the point though, since what it ''is'' is a German corporation that effectively governs half of the de jure Qing Empire.



* RedOctober: A third Russian Revolution can happen, if the current regime becomes too oppressive. This can cause Russia itself to be massively fractured, as Siberia declares independence, and numerous border states can seize territories from the weakened Russia at this time.



* TheRemnant: Despite being defeated in the Russian Civil War, Bolshevik Remnants remain under the leadership of Nikolai Bukharin and can restore the USSR if they come to power either democratically or through Civil War.



* TheRemnant:
** Despite being defeated in the Russian Civil War, Bolshevik Remnants remain under the leadership of Nikolai Bukharin and can restore the USSR if they come to power either democratically or through Civil War.
** The Fengtian Government considers itself this to the Republic of China as the successor to Sun Yat-sen military government.



* RightfulKingReturns: ''Numerous'' examples. Serbia, Brazil and Russia for example, can both have their monarchs return by event.

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* RightfulKingReturns: ''Numerous'' examples. Serbia, Brazil and
** You can crown Kirill Vladimirovich, the head of the house of Romanov, as the emperor of Russia. Besides that, Dmitri Pavlovich Romanov, who can become the aristocratic president of
Russia after the assassination of Kerensky, can claim the Russian throne for example, himself. There is also option to crown Wrangel as tsar Pyotr IV.
** Serbia
can both have their monarchs return by event.restore the monarchy with Crown Prince Aleksandar of the Karađorđević house.
** The Brazilian Empire can be restored with either Vassouras or Petrуpolis branches of Orléans-Braganza as the ruling house.



* ShoutOut: Many. Just for example, Poland's text for the end of the Olympics is 'Poland cannot into Olympics,' a play on a popular Paradox forum meme.

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* ShoutOut: Many. Just for example, ShoutOut:
**
Poland's text for the end of the Olympics is 'Poland cannot into Olympics,' a play on a popular Paradox forum meme.
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