History VideoGame / JadeEmpire

16th Sep '17 2:21:59 AM ShorinBJ
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* HubCity: The Capital City. It is ''only'' city shown and most of the game takes place there. That being said, ''Jade Empire'' is a fairly short game for an RPG.
* HumansAreTheRealMonsters: How the Universe and the Water Dragon view us humans. The Spirit Monk can either redeem the human race--or prove the detractors correct.

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* HubCity: The Capital City. It is the ''only'' city shown shown, and most of the game takes place there. That being said, ''Jade Empire'' is a fairly short game for an RPG.
* HumansAreTheRealMonsters: How the Universe universe and the Water Dragon view us humans. The Spirit Monk can either redeem the human race--or prove the detractors correct.



* InformedAbility: Your character's subtle peculiarity in his/her fighting style. [[spoiler:Sun Li demonstrates it quite succinctly, but we never actually get to see the weakness in play.]]
** Of course, if we ''could'' see it, [[FridgeBrilliance then it wouldn't be subtle]].

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* InformedAbility: Your character's subtle peculiarity in his/her fighting style. [[spoiler:Sun Li demonstrates it quite succinctly, but we never actually get to see the weakness in play.]]
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]] Of course, if we ''could'' see it, [[FridgeBrilliance then it wouldn't be subtle]].



** Gao the Lesser. Although the one point he turns out to be right about ''in no way'' excuses the things he does, it turns out that when Gao the Lesser endlessly complained [[spoiler:that you were Master Li's favorite student and that Master Li focused more attention on you than he did on Gao or any other students...guess what? That's ''true''! Since Master Li was counting on you someday killing Emperor Sun Hai, Master Li really ''did'' favor you over everyone else!]]

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** Gao the Lesser. Although the one point he turns out to be right about ''in no way'' excuses the things he does, it turns out that when Gao the Lesser endlessly complained [[spoiler:that that you were Master Li's favorite student and that Master Li focused more attention on you than he did on Gao or any other students...guess what? That's ''true''! Since [[spoiler:Since Master Li was counting on you someday killing Emperor Sun Hai, Master Li really ''did'' favor you over everyone else!]]



** You can [[HypocriticalHumour criticise Gravedigger Shen for doing the same from corpses]], although that doesn’t stop you from buying from him.

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** You can [[HypocriticalHumour criticise criticize Gravedigger Shen for doing the same from corpses]], although that doesn’t stop you from buying from him.



* MadScientist: The aptly-named Kang the Mad. ("I make things explode, and I make things fly,and I am very good at both. The things I fly tend to survive. The things I explode... not so much.")

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* MadScientist: The aptly-named Kang the Mad. ("I make things explode, and I make things fly,and fly, and I am very good at both. The things I fly tend to survive. The things I explode... not so much.")
16th Sep '17 2:05:17 AM ShorinBJ
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The story begins in the [[DoomedHometown little town]] of Two Rivers, with you as the senior student in a martial-arts school run by the mysterious old Master Li. Life is peaceful, though your friend Dawn Star is troubled by visions of angry restless spirits. Then the town is attacked by the Lotus Assassins, a sect of fighters who do the Emperor's dirty work. Li tells you he had prepared you for this day because you are the last Spirit Monk, the only one who may restore the Water Dragon brought down by the Empire's rulers and put the dead to rest. The story follows with twists and turns as you travel to various towns of the Empire, uncover the mystery of what happened twenty years ago, help the people you meet in their troubles, make new allies and learn new fighting methods.

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The story begins in the [[DoomedHometown little town]] of Two Rivers, with you as the senior student in a martial-arts school run by the mysterious old Master Li. Life is peaceful, though your friend Dawn Star is troubled by visions of angry restless spirits. Then the town is attacked by the Lotus Assassins, a sect of fighters who do the Emperor's emperor's dirty work. Li tells you he had prepared you for this day because you are the last Spirit Monk, the only one who may restore the Water Dragon brought down by the Empire's rulers and put the dead to rest. The story follows with twists and turns as you travel to various towns of the Empire, uncover the mystery of what happened twenty years ago, help the people you meet in their troubles, make new allies and learn new fighting methods.



* AlwaysChaoticEvil: Averted with regard to ghosts, demons, and ogres. Some ghosts, mostly those of evil bent, are malign, and some have been driven insane by the screwed-up state of the afterlife, but others are benevolent and genuinely trying to make up for past mistakes. Demons are almost as likely to be benign as malign, and your party contains both. And while the player fights a tribe of savage ogres early in the game, the very next area features an ogre farmhand [[DrowningMySorrows drinking sadly]] because he accidentally killed a beloved cow during a game they played together.

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* AlwaysChaoticEvil: Averted with regard to ghosts, demons, and ogres. Some ghosts, mostly those of evil bent, are malign, and some have been driven insane by the screwed-up state of the afterlife, but others are benevolent and genuinely trying to make up for past mistakes. Demons are almost as likely to be benign as malign, and your party contains both. And while the player fights a tribe of savage ogres early in the game, the very next area features an ogre farmhand [[DrowningMySorrows drinking sadly]] because he accidentally killed a beloved cow ox during a game they played together.



* AsskickingEqualsAuthority: The second-most-important organizational principle of the Lotus Assassins is that the powerful lead, and murdering each other is a perfectly-acceptable path of advancement. (Loyalty to Death's Hand, however, is even more important than this.)
* AuthorityEqualsAsskicking: Emperors Sun Hai [[spoiler:and Sun Li, and the player character if Closed Fist or they romanced Silk Fox]]

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* AsskickingEqualsAuthority: The second-most-important organizational principle of the Lotus Assassins is that the powerful lead, and murdering each other is a perfectly-acceptable perfectly acceptable path of advancement. (Loyalty to Death's Hand, Hand and the emperor, however, is even more important than this.)
* AuthorityEqualsAsskicking: Emperors Sun Hai [[spoiler:and Sun Li, and the player character if Closed Fist or they romanced Silk Fox]]Fox]].



* BarredFromTheAfterlife: [[spoiler:This is happening to ''everybody'' as a result of the Water Dragon being bound. When the game starts, twenty years worth of restless spirits have piled up, and the Empire's really starting to feel the effects.]]

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* BarredFromTheAfterlife: [[spoiler:This This is happening to ''everybody'' as a result of the Water Dragon being bound. When the game starts, twenty years worth of restless spirits have piled up, and the Empire's really starting to feel the effects.]]



* BiggerBad: [[spoiler: Sun Li's manipulations have attracted a creature of... nothingness, which claims to be a power behind Mother. Had the Spirit Monk not put an end to Sun Li, said evil force might have grown too powerful for anyone to handle. As it is, it remains TheUnfought.]]
* BlackAndWhiteMorality: The developers don't do a good job showing that [[DarkIsNotEvil Closed Fist is not bad]] and [[LightIsNotGood Open Palm isn't always good.]] A lot of times, making one choice will send you flying into either the red (Closed Fist) or blue (Open Palm).

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* BiggerBad: [[spoiler: Sun Li's Li's]] manipulations have attracted a creature of... nothingness, which claims to be a power behind Mother. Had the Spirit Monk not put an end to Sun Li, [[spoiler:Sun Li]], said evil force might have grown too powerful for anyone to handle. As it is, it remains TheUnfought.]]
TheUnfought.
* BlackAndWhiteMorality: The developers don't do a good job showing that [[DarkIsNotEvil Closed Fist is not bad]] and [[LightIsNotGood Open Palm isn't always good.]] A lot of times, making one choice will send The Open Palm option always involves doing something good/helpful to others, while the Closed Fist option is always the most dickish thing you flying into either the red (Closed Fist) or blue (Open Palm).could possibly do.



* ChekhovsGun: Several characters note upon watching the player character fight that they ''think'' they saw a flaw in the player character's fighting style. At the very least, they identify an oddity in the character's personal technique. [[spoiler:Fast forward to the defeat of the Emperor, a reunion with Master Li, and the master killing his student in one blow by exploiting the flaw ''exactly'' as he'd planned to do all along.]]

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* ChekhovsGun: Several characters note upon watching the player character fight that they ''think'' they saw a flaw in the player character's fighting style. At the very least, they identify an oddity in the character's personal technique. [[spoiler:Fast forward to the defeat of the Emperor, a reunion with Master Li, and the master killing his student in one blow by exploiting the flaw ''exactly'' as he'd planned to do all along.]]along]].



* CripplingTheCompetition: An early sidequest requires you to heal an injured fellow student so she can take part in a competition against you. The Open Palm choice is to get her a medicine that actually heals her, but if you prefer the Closed Fist, you can give her an ointment that only removes the pain, resulting in her starting the fight with much less health and ending up crippled for life. For extra adherence to the Closed Fist ideology (one of the few cases when it's actually used correctly) you can reveal to her what you did afterwards, and tell her that relying on you made her weak: she should have dealt with her problem on her own.

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* CripplingTheCompetition: An early sidequest requires you to heal an injured fellow student so she can take part in a competition against you. The Open Palm choice is to get her a medicine that actually heals her, but if you prefer the Closed Fist, you can give her an ointment that only removes the pain, resulting in her starting the fight with much less health and ending up crippled for life. For extra adherence to the Closed Fist ideology (one of the few cases when it's actually used correctly) you can reveal to her what you did afterwards, and tell her that relying on you made her weak: weak; she should have dealt with her problem on her own.



* DeadAllAlong: Several examples. [[spoiler:Sun Hai, Death's Hand, Aishi's father and Master Radiant]]. Subverted with the last escaped spirit for the Necropolis, whose son paid Gravedigger Shen to bury even though he wasn't dead yet. You can either actually kill the father, or help him and his son reconcile.

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* DeadAllAlong: Several examples. [[spoiler:Sun Hai, Death's Hand, Aishi's father and Master Radiant]]. Subverted with the last escaped spirit for the Necropolis, whose son paid Gravedigger Shen to bury him even though he wasn't dead yet. You can either actually kill the father, or help him and his son reconcile.
30th Jul '17 12:04:18 PM nombretomado
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* XMeetsY: [[VideoGame/KnightsOfTheOldRepublic KOTOR]] meets WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender.
12th Jul '17 5:19:48 PM IdumeanPatriot
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* LightIsNotGood / DarkIsNotEvil: An early NPC explains the karma system this way, since Open Palm can lead to being a KnightTemplar and a Closed Fist practitioner might still step in to help the weak if they are too overwhelmed to survive and grow from their challenges. In actual ''gameplay'' it is still just good and evil, although the BigBad may be Open Palm depending on whether you believe his motives are what he says they are.

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* LightIsNotGood / DarkIsNotEvil: An early NPC explains the karma system this way, since Open Palm can lead to being a KnightTemplar and a Closed Fist practitioner might still step in to help the weak if they are too overwhelmed to survive and grow from their challenges. In actual ''gameplay'' it is nearly always still just good and evil, although the BigBad may be Open Palm depending on whether you believe his motives are what he says they are.
12th Jul '17 5:14:28 PM IdumeanPatriot
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* {{Kitsune}}: Forest Shadow is a semi-Chinese version of one.
9th Jun '17 8:47:58 AM whatthefbomb
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* DeathOfAThousandCuts: Invoked with the Thousand Cuts style, which uses multiple light strikes to overwhelm an opponent's defenses. The so-called heavy attacks are really just a sudden rush of many quick jabs.
5th Jun '17 10:32:24 AM OlmoJV
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* TheReasonYouSuckSpeech:
** After Gao the Lesser loses in a fair duel against the player and [[SoreLoser tries to attack them with a style he was explicitly forbidden to use]], Master Li puts him in his place with a harsh tone.
-->'''Master Li''': Gao! I have made enough concessions to you today! I thought I could guide you away from your corrupted path, but you are too much the son of Gao the Greater! You are no longer welcome among my students, and your father's house shall have no more business here, despite his influence.
-->'''Gao the Lesser''': I was not beaten! Not by this peasant!
-->'''Master Li''': You were defeated by your own foolish ambition and predictable temper. I will speak with you in my chambers about your expulsion. Go now!
** After the player corrupts a Jade Golem, causing it to wreak havoc in the Lotus Assassin Fortress, Grand Inquisitor Jia tells her subordinates that they didn't realize that one of their acolytes could be an infiltrator [[WeAreStrugglingTogether because of their infighting]].
-->'''Grand Inquisitor Jia''': Fool! So blinded by petty schemes that you cannot see a threat in our midst! You are worthless!
20th May '17 12:51:51 AM SubjectFive
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** Likewise, [[spoiler:Master Smiling Hawk, developer of the Hidden Fist technique]] manages to rapid-kick you through a wall with ease--one of only 4 people to ever canonically hurt the player character (The others being a ghost girl in Old Tien's Landing, the Fox Spirit, and [[spoiler: Master Li]] ). However, when fought in-game, he's only slightly stronger than Gao the Lesser was, and you fought him long ago and have no doubt upgraded since then.

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** Likewise, [[spoiler:Master Smiling Hawk, developer of the Hidden Fist technique]] manages to rapid-kick you through a wall with ease--one of only 4 5 people to ever canonically hurt land a blow on the player character (The others being a ghost girl in Old Tien's Landing, the Fox Spirit, and [[spoiler: Death's Hand, and Master Li]] ). However, when fought in-game, he's only slightly stronger than Gao the Lesser was, and you fought him long ago and have no doubt upgraded since then.
20th May '17 12:49:02 AM SubjectFive
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** Likewise, [[spoiler:Master Smiling Hawk, developer of the Hidden Fist technique]] manages to rapid-kick you through a wall with ease--one of only 4 people to ever canonically hurt the player character (The others being a ghost girl in Old Tien's Landing, the Fox Spirit, and [[spoiler: Master Li]] ). However, when fought in-game, he's only slightly stronger than Gao the Lesser was, and you fought him long ago and have no doubt upgraded since then.
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