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24th May '17 9:01:20 AM Mikedem2
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* CurbStompBattle: Most of the ''Fleet of Particular Justice's'' battles against the humans turned into these, thanks to Thel's leadership and tactics.


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* HonorBeforeReason: In one of the Terminals describing the Battle of Camber, the Arbiter managed to catch a UNSC garrison completely by surprise. He ordered his men to wait for the humans to arm themselves before attacking, then proceeded to [[CurbStompBattle slaughter them all.]]
6th Mar '17 5:58:27 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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* BossBattle: Notable for being the only FPS ''Halo'' game until ''VideoGame/Halo5Guardians'' to have traditional boss battles; namely, the Heretic Leader, the Prophet of Regret, and Tartarus.
6th Mar '17 5:14:43 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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* ThisCannotBe: In the final mission, when the presumed dead Arbiter returns to confront Tartarus.

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* ThisCannotBe: In the final mission, when the presumed dead Arbiter returns to confront Tartarus.Tartarus, given that the latter had blasted the former into a seemingly bottomless pit:
28th Feb '17 10:08:46 AM tdwally
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** This can all be explained if one considers several things: the Arbiters housed in the Mausoleum have already regained their honor, Thel has just lost all of his, and anyone condemned to become Arbiter is already, for all intents and purposes, a corpse. A disgraced Elite cannot lead fleets, and therefore rebellions, so making a powerful Elite the Arbiter solves the problem by allowing the Prophets to retain their control while providing said Elite a way out, one that conforms to their cultural identity and sense of honor. Being a living Arbiter is shameful; being a dead one is not.
*** In addition, it is likely that Thel would have been executed or made the Arbiter anyways despite his relegation to the role of Arbiter. Truth quite clearly needed and wanted the influential Elite out of the way, as a leader like that could, and indeed did, give the Elites a solid figure to rally behind when the Schism began.
21st Feb '17 11:35:55 AM CaptainMeap
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** This can all be explained if one considers several things: the Arbiters housed in the Mausoleum have already regained their honor, and anyone condemned to become Arbiter is already, for all intents and purposes, a corpse. A disgraced Elite cannot lead fleets, and therefore rebellions, so making a powerful Elite the Arbiter solves the problem by allowing the Prophets to retain their control while providing said Elite a way out, one that conforms to their cultural identity and sense of honor. Being a living Arbiter is shameful; being a dead one is not.

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** This can all be explained if one considers several things: the Arbiters housed in the Mausoleum have already regained their honor, Thel has just lost all of his, and anyone condemned to become Arbiter is already, for all intents and purposes, a corpse. A disgraced Elite cannot lead fleets, and therefore rebellions, so making a powerful Elite the Arbiter solves the problem by allowing the Prophets to retain their control while providing said Elite a way out, one that conforms to their cultural identity and sense of honor. Being a living Arbiter is shameful; being a dead one is not.
21st Feb '17 11:34:16 AM CaptainMeap
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**This can all be explained if one considers several things: the Arbiters housed in the Mausoleum have already regained their honor, and anyone condemned to become Arbiter is already, for all intents and purposes, a corpse. A disgraced Elite cannot lead fleets, and therefore rebellions, so making a powerful Elite the Arbiter solves the problem by allowing the Prophets to retain their control while providing said Elite a way out, one that conforms to their cultural identity and sense of honor. Being a living Arbiter is shameful; being a dead one is not.
***In addition, it is likely that Thel would have been executed or made the Arbiter anyways despite his relegation to the role of Arbiter. Truth quite clearly needed and wanted the influential Elite out of the way, as a leader like that could, and indeed did, give the Elites a solid figure to rally behind when the Schism began.
13th Feb '17 11:33:17 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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* {{Retcon}}[=/=]{{Revision}}: The change to the status of the position of Arbiter in Covenant society since the release of the original ''Halo 2'' straddles the line between these two. ''Halo 2'' all but stated that the Arbiter was a position of great esteem in the Covenent and that Thel 'Vadamee's appointment to Arbiter to be an unconventional move on the part of Truth and Mercy, bordering on LoopholeAbuse. The Anniversary and subsequent media treats it as more or less the normal procedure. Since ''Anniversary''[='s=] campaign is identical to the original, there are several inconsistencies like Sesa 'Refumee saying the position is a badge of shame while Thel 'Vadamee states that even on his knees he is unworthy to be in the Mausoleum of the Arbiters. Or Guilty Spark stating that the position was manipulated by the Prophets to disgrace Elites that are becoming too powerful while in Thel's trial Truth is if anything trying to defend him and only denounces him as a heretic to satisfy the High Council.

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* {{Retcon}}[=/=]{{Revision}}: The change to the status of the position of Arbiter in Covenant society since the release of the original ''Halo 2'' straddles the line between these two. ''Halo 2'' all but stated that the Arbiter was a position of great esteem in the Covenent and that Thel 'Vadamee's appointment to Arbiter to be an unconventional move on the part of Truth and Mercy, bordering on LoopholeAbuse. The Anniversary and All subsequent media treats (including ''Anniversary''[='s=] terminals) treat it as more or less the normal procedure. Since ''Anniversary''[='s=] campaign is identical to the original, there are several inconsistencies like Sesa 'Refumee saying the position is a badge of shame in the terminals, while Thel 'Vadamee in the campaign states that even on his knees he is unworthy to be in the Mausoleum of the Arbiters. Or Guilty Spark stating (again, in the terminals) that the position was manipulated by the Prophets to disgrace Elites that are were becoming too powerful powerful, while in Thel's trial Truth is if anything trying to defend him and only denounces him as a heretic to satisfy the High Council.
12th Feb '17 10:13:14 PM tdwally
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-->'''Tartarus:''' You've drawn quite a crowd.\\
'''Thel Vadamee:''' If they came to hear me beg, they will be disappointed.



* AdaptationalAngstUpgrade: A minor case. In the original, when Arbiter responds to Rtas stating he doesn't care if the former lives or dies with "That make two of us." he is staring Rtas down, emphasizing his defiance. In the remake, Arbiter drops his eyes while delivering the line, emphasizing his sense of shame over his failure.



* {{Retcon}}[=/=]{{Revision}}: The change to the status of the position of Arbiter in Covenant society since the release of the original ''Halo 2'' straddles the line between these two. While ''Halo 2'' seemingly implied Thel 'Vadamee's appointment to Arbiter to be an unconventional move on the part of Truth and Mercy, ''all'' subsequent media treats it as something close to the normal procedure, though none of the latter's depictions of the rank have actually contradicted what was explicitly (as opposed to implicitly) established in ''Halo 2''. Since ''Anniversary''[='s=] campaign is identical to the original, you end up with the curious case of having the new terminals talk about how the position of Arbiter is often used as a death sentence for convicted heretics despite the campaign itself showing Truth reassuring Thel 'Vadamee, a convicted heretic on death row, that he knows Thel is not really a heretic before offering to make him an Arbiter, with the Arbiter's inevitable demise being portrayed as a LoopholeAbuse to still meet his original death sentence.

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* {{Retcon}}[=/=]{{Revision}}: The change to the status of the position of Arbiter in Covenant society since the release of the original ''Halo 2'' straddles the line between these two. While ''Halo 2'' seemingly implied all but stated that the Arbiter was a position of great esteem in the Covenent and that Thel 'Vadamee's appointment to Arbiter to be an unconventional move on the part of Truth and Mercy, ''all'' bordering on LoopholeAbuse. The Anniversary and subsequent media treats it as something close to more or less the normal procedure, though none of the latter's depictions of the rank have actually contradicted what was explicitly (as opposed to implicitly) established in ''Halo 2''. procedure. Since ''Anniversary''[='s=] campaign is identical to the original, you end up with the curious case of having the new terminals talk about how there are several inconsistencies like Sesa 'Refumee saying the position is a badge of Arbiter shame while Thel 'Vadamee states that even on his knees he is often used as a death sentence for convicted heretics despite unworthy to be in the campaign itself showing Mausoleum of the Arbiters. Or Guilty Spark stating that the position was manipulated by the Prophets to disgrace Elites that are becoming too powerful while in Thel's trial Truth reassuring Thel 'Vadamee, a convicted heretic on death row, that he knows Thel is not really if anything trying to defend him and only denounces him as a heretic before offering to make him an Arbiter, with satisfy the Arbiter's inevitable demise being portrayed as a LoopholeAbuse to still meet his original death sentence. High Council.
8th Sep '16 10:54:55 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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* BilingualBonus: In the level "Outskirts" (set in Mombasa, Kenya), there are several announcements made in untranslated Swahili over the intercom; these range from public service announcements to random proverbs. There's also one that translates to "Warning! Old Man Marty[[note]]referring to Bungie composer Martin O'Donnell[[/note]], who we used to respect, is actually a con man. He will be beaten with a stick tomorrow morning."

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* BilingualBonus: In the level "Outskirts" (set in Mombasa, Kenya), there are several announcements made in untranslated Swahili over the intercom; these range from public service announcements to random proverbs. There's also one that translates to "Warning! Old Man Marty[[note]]referring to Bungie then-Bungie composer Martin O'Donnell[[/note]], who we used to respect, is actually a con man. He will be beaten with a stick tomorrow morning."
8th Sep '16 10:53:40 PM UmbrellasWereAwesome
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* BilingualBonus: In the level "Outskirts" (set in Mombasa, Kenya), there are several announcements made in untranslated Swahili over the intercom; these range from public service announcements to random proverbs. There's also one that translates to "Warning! Old Man Marty[[note]]referring to Bungie composer Marty O'Donnell[[/note]], who we used to respect, is actually a con man. He will be beaten with a stick tomorrow morning."

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* BilingualBonus: In the level "Outskirts" (set in Mombasa, Kenya), there are several announcements made in untranslated Swahili over the intercom; these range from public service announcements to random proverbs. There's also one that translates to "Warning! Old Man Marty[[note]]referring to Bungie composer Marty Martin O'Donnell[[/note]], who we used to respect, is actually a con man. He will be beaten with a stick tomorrow morning."
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