History VideoGame / GrandTheftAutoSanAndreas

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** Played straight in another; a patrolling police officer comments to his colleague on wasting their donuts, discarding them on the road, as they are radioed in to pursue C.J. and the crew.

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** Played straight in another; a patrolling police officer comments to his colleague on wasting their donuts, discarding them on the road, road as they are radioed in to pursue C.J. and the crew.
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* LogoJoke: The game has the Rockstar Games and Rockstar North logos appearing on screen with the sound of spray cans, kinda like graffiti (fitting for the game's 90s-era hip-hop mood).

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* LogoJoke: The game has the Rockstar Games and Rockstar North logos appearing on screen with the sound of spray cans, kinda like graffiti (fitting for the game's 90s-era '90s-era hip-hop mood).



* RealIsBrown: Check out the graphics. An unmistakable brownish-gray trend emerges. The game might justify this by imitating the look of early 90s films set in South Central.

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* RealIsBrown: Check out the graphics. An unmistakable brownish-gray trend emerges. The game might justify this by imitating the look of early 90s '90s films set in South Central.


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**Played straight in another; a patrolling police officer comments to his colleague on wasting their donuts, discarding them on the road, as they are radioed in to pursue C.J. and the crew.
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* {{Bizarrchitecture}}: Some of the abandoned desert tourist traps are restaurants shaped like the animals they serve, in a representation of a real trend in [[{{Zeerust}} now-dated 50's-60's architecture]] toward giant objects.

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* {{Bizarrchitecture}}: Some of the abandoned desert tourist traps are restaurants shaped like the animals they serve, in a representation of a real trend in [[{{Zeerust}} now-dated 50's-60's '50s-'60s architecture]] toward giant objects.



** Occasionally, if left alone for long enough, C.J. will sing fragments from various songs of the early-90's, such as ''Walking on Sunshine''.

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** Occasionally, if left alone for long enough, C.J. will sing fragments from various songs of the early-90's, early-'90s, such as ''Walking on Sunshine''.



** Averted with several songs, which may sound and feel like the 80's/90's, but are not necessarily widely remembered hits, many being acts that are majorly unknown for people who didn't live in that time period. As well as songs that weren't actually hits outside of the genre charts.
** Also subverted, while the game does contain plenty of late 80's and early 90's hip-hop and rock, it also contains representations of genres that were experiencing PopularityPolynomial during the early 90's, such as 70's rock, rare groove and funk.

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** Averted with several songs, which may sound and feel like the 80's/90's, '80s/'90s, but are not necessarily widely remembered hits, many being acts that are majorly unknown for people who didn't live in that time period. As well as songs that weren't actually hits outside of the genre charts.
** Also subverted, while the game does contain plenty of late 80's '80s and early 90's '90s hip-hop and rock, it also contains representations of genres that were experiencing PopularityPolynomial during the early 90's, '90s, such as 70's '70s rock, rare groove and funk.



* SceneryPorn: Being a sandbox game, ''San Andreas'' doesn't have much in the way of huge, time-consuming panoramic shots of the landscape, but the love and attention to detail is clear. [[FictionalCounterpart Las Venturas]] is, barring certain plot-and-legality-based changes and scale, almost perfectly accurate to the Strip and Fremont Street in real life (at least, how they were in the 90's; Fremont Street has since become 'The Fremont Street Experience').

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* SceneryPorn: Being a sandbox game, ''San Andreas'' doesn't have much in the way of huge, time-consuming panoramic shots of the landscape, but the love and attention to detail is clear. [[FictionalCounterpart Las Venturas]] is, barring certain plot-and-legality-based changes and scale, almost perfectly accurate to the Strip and Fremont Street in real life (at least, how they were in the 90's; '90s; Fremont Street has since become 'The Fremont Street Experience').



* TwentyMinutesIntoThePast: Released in 2004, set in 1992. [[spoiler:Since San Andreas is an {{expy}} of early-90's California, the ending features [[HistoricalInJoke the GTA universe's counterpart to the 1992 LA riots.]]]]

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* TwentyMinutesIntoThePast: Released in 2004, set in 1992. [[spoiler:Since San Andreas is an {{expy}} of early-90's early-'90s California, the ending features [[HistoricalInJoke the GTA universe's counterpart to the 1992 LA riots.]]]]
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* BonusDungeon: After trudging through Zero's [[ThatOneLevel first two missions, which involve shooting down/fighting with toys on a very tight timer]], you are treated to... an RTS mission. However, it is probably the most fun mission in the game since it's virtually impossible to screw up, and hearing David Cross cheer you on when you do well at it creates quite the fuzzy feeling. Oh, and one of the previous scrappy levels becomes infinitely replayable after you beat it, although there is now no longer a penalty for failing it.

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* BonusDungeon: After trudging through Zero's [[ThatOneLevel first two missions, which involve shooting down/fighting with toys on a very tight timer]], you are treated to... an RTS mission. However, it is probably the most fun mission in the game since it's virtually impossible to screw up, and hearing David Cross Creator/DavidCross cheer you on when you do well at it creates quite the fuzzy feeling. Oh, and one of the previous scrappy levels becomes infinitely replayable after you beat it, although there is now no longer a penalty for failing it.



** Bikes. They're not the fast vehicles in the game by far (when riding up a hill, you can go faster ''on foot''), give zero protection against bullets and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking you can't listen to your radio on one]], but they're very easy to level up (which makes it harder for you to fall from it) and, with maxed out endurance or the unlimited sprint, they can still reach a decent speed. Where they truly shine is agility: it's far easier to lose a pursuer on a bike by going where he can't follow you rather than trying to outrun him. The ability to bunny hop is also quite useful as well, and the higher your skill level, the higher you can jump.

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** Bikes. The Bike and the BMX. They're not the fast fastest vehicles in the game by far (when riding up a hill, you can go faster ''on foot''), foot'' unless you tap 'accelerate' to go faster), give zero protection against bullets and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking you can't listen to your radio on one]], but they're very easy to level up (which makes it harder for you to fall from it) and, it), they can still reach decent speeds with maxed out endurance stamina or the unlimited sprint, they can still reach a decent speed. and they're totally indestructible. Where they truly shine is agility: it's far easier to lose a pursuer on a bike by going where he can't follow you rather than trying to outrun him. The ability to bunny hop is also quite useful as well, and the higher your skill level, the higher you can jump.



* MoreFriendsMoreBenefits: CJ's girlfriends each have their own bonuses for dating them. There is a cop who lets CJ keep his money and weapons after getting arrested, a nurse who does the same if he becomes incapacitated (even if the incident doesn't happen in the ladies' jurisdictions), a mechanic who fixes and paint his cars for free (but only if you go to her garage in San Fierro), and a few others with minor bonuses. At some point you can even drive your girlfriends' cars, despite the fact that they're never returned in one piece (if at all.) Dating one of the girls is necessary to complete the game; the rest are optional.
* MotorcycleOnTheCoastRoad: The game lets you do this in several places, notably near Angel Pine and Blueberry. It's very cathartic.
** Until you hit a randomly-generated traffic accident, and get hurled off your bike and into the sea.
*** Just like in RealLife... well, ideally not. Still possible.

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* MoreFriendsMoreBenefits: CJ's girlfriends each have their own bonuses for dating them. There is a cop who lets CJ keep his money and weapons after getting arrested, a nurse who does the same if he becomes incapacitated he's wasted (even if the incident doesn't happen in the ladies' jurisdictions), a mechanic who fixes and paint his cars for free (but only if you go to her garage in San Fierro), and a few others with minor bonuses. At some point you can even drive your girlfriends' cars, despite the fact that they're never returned in one piece (if at all.) all). Dating one of the girls is necessary to complete the game; game, and only to a certain extent; the rest are optional.
* MotorcycleOnTheCoastRoad: The game lets you do this in several places, notably near Angel Pine and Blueberry. It's very cathartic.
** Until
cathartic... until you hit a randomly-generated traffic accident, and get hurled off your bike and into the sea.
*** Just like in RealLife... well, ideally not. Still possible.
sea. Then you have to jack another bike.



-->'''Zero''': They're not 'toys'! They're just smaller!
** Oh, and the third? Seems like the actual use for these things: a car tries to drive a road into a base. Berkley's helicopter drops obstacles that your helicopter has to remove. Bentley also has actual tanks shooting at his car, albeit with low-powered ammo for their size. You have access to antitank bombs.
* MySisterIsOffLimits: Both Sweet and C.J. have some problems with Kendl's boyfriend, Cesar. Luckily, C.J. quickly backs off and warms up to him after their first meeting.

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-->'''Zero''': They're not 'toys'! ''toys''! They're just smaller!
** Oh, and the third? Seems like the actual use for these things: a car tries to drive a road into a base. Berkley's helicopter drops obstacles that your helicopter has to remove. Bentley Berkley also has actual tanks shooting at his car, albeit with low-powered ammo for their size. You have access to tiny antitank bombs.
* MySisterIsOffLimits: Both Sweet and C.J. have some problems with Kendl's boyfriend, Cesar. Luckily, C.J. quickly backs off and warms up to him not long after their first meeting.



* NewAgeRetroHippie: The Truth, a tie-dye wearing, weed-growing, long-haired ConspiracyTheorist and hippie. At first he seems like a crackpot, but when Carl starts being shadowed by government spooks, those wild theories suddenly don't seem so far-fetched.

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* NewAgeRetroHippie: The Truth, a tie-dye wearing, weed-growing, long-haired ConspiracyTheorist and hippie. At first he seems like a crackpot, [[ProperlyParanoid but when Carl starts being shadowed by government spooks, those wild theories suddenly don't seem so far-fetched.far-fetched]].



* NoFairCheating: If you activate the cheat that causes every NPC in the game to become an active combatant, the mission to prevent Madd Dogg's suicide becomes impossible and the game {{Unwinnable}}. Quite harsh considering it happens in the final third of the game.
** Also, there's no way to disable the cheat once it's activated, so if you activate it and then save...
* NoGearLevel: Twice. C.J. loses all his guns several times. After you've finished the story missions for the first city, you're dumped out of town with no weapons. Later on, after the helicopter he's gunning down from gets... gunned down and crashes in water. You must then make your way aboard the gangster-ridden container ship you were attacking and acquire guns by killing gang members (or [[spoiler:you can simply swim ashore, buy new weapons, and go back]]). Another mission, "Stowaway", has C.J. inside a plane loaded with explosives (possibly landmines). Shooting in there is not forbidden, no - but one shot that misses a government agent mook in there means hitting the explosives and the whole thing goes kaboom. Players are likely to resort to melee weapons or unarmed combat in there, risking no such thing - especially since getting into the plane in the first place is [[ThatOneLevel That One Level Part]] players are unlikely to want to repeat. [[note]]Driving up to and then up a narrow ramp of said plane, while it's taking off, on a motorbike, and with barrels rolling out of the ramp every once in a while. And the plane has quite a lot of head start...[[/note]]

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* NoFairCheating: If you activate the cheat that causes every NPC in the game to become an active combatant, the mission to prevent Madd Dogg's suicide becomes impossible and the game {{Unwinnable}}. Quite harsh considering it happens in the final third of the game.
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game. Also, there's no way to disable the a cheat once it's activated, so if you activate it and then save...
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* NoGearLevel: Twice. C.J. loses all his guns several times. After you've finished the story missions for the first city, you're dumped out of town with no weapons. Later on, after the helicopter he's gunning down from gets... on gets gunned down and crashes in the water. You must then make your way aboard the gangster-ridden container ship you were attacking and acquire guns by killing gang members (or [[spoiler:you can simply swim ashore, buy new weapons, and go back]]). Another mission, "Stowaway", has C.J. inside a plane loaded with explosives (possibly landmines). Shooting in there is not forbidden, no - but one shot that misses a government agent mook in there means hitting the explosives and the whole thing goes kaboom. Players are likely to resort to melee weapons or unarmed combat in there, risking no such thing - especially since getting into the plane in the first place is [[ThatOneLevel That One Level Part]] players are unlikely to want to repeat. [[note]]Driving up to and then up a narrow ramp of said plane, while it's taking off, on a motorbike, and with barrels rolling out of the ramp every once in a while. And the plane has quite a lot of head start...[[/note]]



** RiceBurner: While all the mod garages give you the option to only customize your car's appearance and skip out on performance upgrades, Wheel Arch Angels in San Fierro technically specializes in these, given that they only accept import tuners of Asian makes and aforementioned "performance upgrades" are only limited to hydraulic suspensions ([[MundaneUtility which are actually useful for negotiating uneven terrain when deployed]]) and [[NitroBoost nitrous oxide]].

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** RiceBurner: While all the mod garages give you the option to only customize your car's appearance and skip out on performance upgrades, Wheel Arch Angels in San Fierro technically specializes in these, given that they only accept import tuners of Asian makes and aforementioned "performance upgrades" are only limited to hydraulic suspensions ([[MundaneUtility which that are actually useful for negotiating uneven terrain when deployed]]) and [[NitroBoost nitrous oxide]].



** You can save scum to build up all the money you'll ever need by gambling, if you're willing to spend several hours. This is most easily accomplished after you purchase the casino in Los Venturas (to have a nearby save point). Simply gamble at your choice of game (video poker is a popular one) and save when you win big, or quit/reset when you lose all your money (though leave the sound off unless you want to hear the same two songs on an ENDLESS LOOP. Tell 'em, Godfather...).

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** You can save scum to build up all the money you'll ever need by gambling, if you're willing to spend several hours. This is most easily accomplished after you purchase the casino in Los Venturas (to have a nearby save point). Simply gamble at your choice of game (video poker is a popular one) and save when you win big, or quit/reset when you lose all your money (though leave the sound off unless you want to hear the same two songs on an ENDLESS LOOP. Tell 'em, Godfather...).money).



** The game had save scumming in spades when it came to weapons. Any time you died or got busted, you lost all your guns, leading players to save after every single mission and reloading if they died or get busted on a mission. ''San Andreas'' introduced ways to let the player keep their weapons after death or arrest to discourage save scumming: it had a few missions where you would lose all of your guns at the start of a mission, pissing off players who had been save scumming to keep their guns and finding out they have to lose them anyway.

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** The game had save scumming in spades when it came to weapons. Any time you died or got busted, you lost all your guns, leading players to save after every single mission and reloading if they died or get busted on a mission. ''San Andreas'' introduced ways to let the player keep their weapons after death or arrest to discourage save scumming: it had a few missions where you would lose all of your guns at the start of a mission, pissing off players who had been save scumming to keep their guns and finding out they have to lose them anyway.



* SexyDiscretionShot: The player can choose to sleep with his girlfriends. If he does so, the camera shows the outside of the house while you hear the sounds of love. Amusingly, Rockstar was actually planning to allow the player to control the sex scenes, but wisely changed the game to prevent it. When a man later discovered them, it spawned the infamous [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_coffee Hot Coffee mod controversy.]]
** It also happens in the intro to the "Gone Courting" mission, where Catalina decides to jump C.J.'s bones, and from what she brings into the encounter in question, she's into S&M in a big way.
** Not to mention, the player can pick up hookers on the street and take them to a quiet area for some ''fun''. This causes the car to rock violently, but nothing can be viewed... Unless you change the camera to see inside the car, when both the player's character and his prostitute just sitting there, facing forward and not moving, the sounds apparently coming from nowhere.

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* SexyDiscretionShot: The player can choose to sleep with his girlfriends. If he does so, the camera shows the outside of the house while you hear the sounds of love. Amusingly, Rockstar was actually planning to allow the player to control the sex scenes, but wisely changed the game to prevent it. When a man later discovered them, it spawned the infamous [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_coffee Hot Coffee mod controversy.]]
controversy]].
** It also happens in the intro to the "Gone Courting" mission, where Catalina decides to jump C.J.'s bones, and from what she brings into the encounter in question, she's quite into S&M in a big way.
S&M.
** Not to mention, the player can pick up hookers on the street and take them to a quiet area for some ''fun''. This causes the car to rock violently, but nothing can be viewed... Unless you change the camera to see inside the car, when both the player's character and his prostitute just sitting there, facing forward and not moving, and the sounds apparently coming from nowhere.



* ShootTheFuelTank: The game allows you to instantly detonate a car if you aim for the gas ''cap''. Even if you can clearly see the rest of the tank, as on lorries, only the cap will set it off. Maybe they're [[IncrediblyLamePun blasting caps]].

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* ShootTheFuelTank: The game allows you to instantly detonate a car if you aim for the gas ''cap''. cap. Even if you can clearly see the rest of the tank, as on lorries, only ''only'' the cap will set it off. Maybe they're [[IncrediblyLamePun [[{{Pun}} blasting caps]].caps]]?



* ShoutOut[=/=]ReferenceOverdosed: [[ShoutOut/GrandTheftAuto All on this page.]]

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* ShoutOut[=/=]ReferenceOverdosed: [[ShoutOut/GrandTheftAuto All on this page.]]page]].



* SillinessSwitch: Possible to have hordes of Elvis (Elvii) and fast food employees rioting through the city while any car hit goes flying into space.

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* SillinessSwitch: Possible It's possible, with the right cheats, to have hordes of Elvis (Elvii) and fast food employees rioting through the city while any car hit goes flying into space.



* SimultaneousWarningAndAction: The San Fierro Police are trained social workers. That means they try to "Open a constructive dialog" while beating Carl with their nightsticks.

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* SimpleYetAwesome: The mountain bike. Unlike the Bike and the BMX[[labelnote:+]]listed above under BoringButPractical[[/labelnote]], it's a really fast vehicle with an acceleration rate that puts even motorcycles to shame if you pedal fast. It also has the benefits of the Bike and BMX of being indestructible and very agile in cramped quarters. The only downsides are that it's ''very'' rare, and bunny hops with it are rather short even on max cycling skill.
* SimultaneousWarningAndAction: The San Fierro Police are trained social workers. That means they try to "Open "open a constructive dialog" while beating Carl with their nightsticks.



** Deliberately played with, when it comes to Carl's girlfriends. You would expect this game feature to evoke this trope but once Carl starts dating his first girlfriend, Denise Robinson, things turn out quite differently: She will hurl insults at Carl whenever he bumps into her and berate him if does as much as nudge any object with his car. During the "driving dates", on the other hand, if you drive too carefully[[note]] Which is advisable if your driving skill is still somewhat lacking which it most likely is at this point in the game, unless you've spent hours honing your driving skills on the airstrip which is only accessible through a bit of trickery[[/note]], you will end up "boring her legs shut" and if you neglect her for too long, she will threaten Carl with dating one of his friends instead. And let's not even mention her endless lust for gratuitous drive-by shootings...

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** Deliberately played with, when it comes to Carl's girlfriends. You would expect this game feature to evoke this trope but once Carl starts dating his first girlfriend, Denise Robinson, things turn out quite differently: She she will hurl insults at Carl whenever he bumps into her and berate him if does as much as nudge any object with his car. During the "driving dates", on the other hand, if you drive too carefully[[note]] Which is advisable carefully[[note]]advisable if your driving skill is still somewhat lacking which it most likely is at this point in the game, unless you've spent hours honing your driving skills on the airstrip which is only accessible through a bit of trickery[[/note]], you will end up "boring her legs shut" and if you neglect her for too long, she will threaten Carl with dating one of his friends instead. And let's not even mention her endless lust for gratuitous drive-by shootings...
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'''CJ:''' ''(Angrily)'' What it look like I'm made of? Pudding?\\

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'''CJ:''' '''C.J.:''' ''(Angrily)'' What it look like I'm made of? Pudding?\\



* BeefGate: Initially, C.J. is restricted to Los Santos and Red County; since he is the only GTAIII-era protagonist of the series who can actually swim, there is nothing preventing the player from entering the other regions before they are unlocked, but there is a penalty of a four-star wanted level if you do. Specifically, San Fierro, Whetstone and Flint County are inaccessible prior to completing "The Green Sabre" and Tierra Robada, Bone County and Las Venturas cannot be entered before completing "Yay-Ka-Boom-Boom".

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* BeefGate: Initially, C.J. is restricted to Los Santos and Red County; since he is the only GTAIII-era ''GTAIII''-era protagonist of the series who can actually swim, there is nothing preventing the player from entering the other regions before they are unlocked, but there is a penalty of a four-star wanted level if you do. Specifically, San Fierro, Whetstone and Flint County are inaccessible prior to completing "The Green Sabre" and Tierra Robada, Bone County and Las Venturas cannot be entered before completing "Yay-Ka-Boom-Boom".



* BlindDriving: Woozie has a version - he's really good at racing around designed tracks (like the race where C.J. first meets him), but regular driving tends eat up a lot of time (his right-hand man, after CJ asked where Woozie was, said that he insisted on driving himself. "Could be anywhere.")

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* BlindDriving: Woozie has a version - he's really good at racing around designed tracks (like the race where C.J. first meets him), but regular driving tends eat up a lot of time (his right-hand man, after CJ C.J. asked where Woozie was, said that he insisted on driving himself. "Could be anywhere.")



** There are also missions where CJ is forced to use a specific weapon, despite others in his inventory (often replacing them). For example, in "Freefall" it doesn't matter if he has a mini-gun, C.J. is forced to make do with a dinky 9mm pistol in the shootout. It happens [[ExplosiveDecompression inside a plane,]] though, so keeping the caliber down is somewhat justified if the game runs on [[ArtisticLicensePhysics Vinewood Physics]]. "Reuniting the Families" is particularly bad about this, because it will give you an infinite-ammo AK-47 and then take it (and all the ammo you might have had) away once it's over.

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** There are also missions where CJ C.J. is forced to use a specific weapon, despite others in his inventory (often replacing them). For example, in "Freefall" it doesn't matter if he has a mini-gun, C.J. is forced to make do with a dinky 9mm pistol in the shootout. It happens [[ExplosiveDecompression inside a plane,]] plane]] though, so keeping the caliber down is somewhat justified if the game runs on [[ArtisticLicensePhysics Vinewood Physics]]. "Reuniting the Families" is particularly bad about this, because it will give you an infinite-ammo AK-47 and then take it (and all the ammo you might have had) away once it's over.



* CaptainObvious: In the "WCTR" show "The Tight End Zone", Derrick Thackery frequently states blatantly obvious facts about football ("If you score more points than the other team, you win."), but in a twist, they're treated like insightful wisdom by his stupid call-in guests.

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* CaptainObvious: In the "WCTR" WCTR show "The Tight End Zone", Derrick Thackery frequently states blatantly obvious facts about football ("If you score more points than the other team, you win."), but in a twist, they're treated like insightful wisdom by his stupid call-in guests.



** In the latter part of the game, C.J. does stand up against harassing (he points a gun against Toreno when he believes he's not going to keep his promise, and even laughs in Tenpenny's face when he learns he's in trouble -- he gets punched for the latter, but the point is that he did it); although he still follows other people's instructions, he's able to take the initiative if needed (the attack on Madd Dogg's mansion was C.J.'s idea, as was using Rosenberg to learn more about the Caligula for the heist); he realizes some of his earlier acts have caused unexpected damage (namely, [[spoiler:Madd Dogg is almost DrivenToSuicide, and Tenpenny getting free causes a riot]]) and sets out to repair it; and ends up owning a casino and several businesses all over San Andreas, which still doesn't prevent him from eventually coming back to the hood to take care of it.

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** In the latter part of the game, C.J. does stand up against harassing (he points a gun against Toreno when he believes he's not going to keep his promise, and even laughs in Tenpenny's face when he learns he's in trouble -- he gets punched for the latter, but the point is that he did it); although he still follows other people's instructions, he's able to take the initiative if needed (the attack on Madd Dogg's mansion was C.J.'s idea, as was using Ken Rosenberg to learn more about the Caligula Caligula's Casino for the heist); he realizes some of his earlier acts have caused unexpected damage (namely, [[spoiler:Madd Dogg is almost DrivenToSuicide, and Tenpenny getting free causes a riot]]) and sets out to repair it; and ends up owning a casino and several businesses all over San Andreas, which still doesn't prevent him from eventually coming back to the hood to take care of it.
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* TheAtoner: C.J.'s relationship with Madd Dogg. [[spoiler:CJ murders Madd Dogg's manager and steals his rhyme book for OG Loc. As a result, Dogg attempts suicide only to be saved by C.J., who then retrieves his rhyme book and resurrects his music career by being his manager.]]

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* TheAtoner: C.J.'s relationship with Madd Dogg. [[spoiler:CJ [[spoiler:C.J. murders Madd Dogg's manager and steals his rhyme book for OG Loc. As a result, Dogg attempts suicide only to be saved by C.J., who then retrieves his rhyme book and resurrects his music career by being his manager.]]
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Despite its age it's has been reported to be one of the still most played games on [=PS2=] to this day largely being so big and having so much to do. As such, a remastered version was made for the IOS and Android systems, and later ported to the UsefulNotes/{{Xbox 360}} (on 26 October 2014, to celebrate the tenth anniversary of the game), and then the UsefulNotes/PlayStation3 on December 1st 2015.

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Despite its age it's has been reported to be one of the still most played games on [=PS2=] to this day largely being so big and having so much to do. As such, a remastered version was made for the IOS and Android systems, and later ported to the UsefulNotes/{{Xbox 360}} (on 26 October 26th, 2014, to celebrate the tenth anniversary of the game), and then the UsefulNotes/PlayStation3 on December 1st 1st, 2015.



** Same can be said for C.J., who comes off as a centered, caring guy despite lacking qualms to commit crimes throughout the game. CJ himself, who will have no problem shooting or running over unarmed civilians, assassinate people who never did a bad thing to him and generally steal, maim and kill. However, most of it is because he is given no other alternative in order to keep his family--blood and otherwise--from being harmed and is genuinely nice and polite (outside of [[VideoGameCrueltyPotential whatever the player makes him do]]) to the people around him. Compare this to [[VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoViceCity Tommy]] who alienates and belittles his inner circle and [[VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoIII Claude]] who [[spoiler: repays the women who save his life by killing the brother of one and then (possibly) shooting and killing the other for ''talking too much'']].

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** Same can be said for C.J., who comes off as a centered, caring guy despite lacking qualms to commit crimes throughout the game. CJ himself, who will have no problem shooting or running over unarmed civilians, assassinate people who never did a bad thing to him and generally steal, maim and kill. However, most of it is because he is given no other alternative in order to keep his family--blood and otherwise--from being harmed and is genuinely nice and polite (outside of [[VideoGameCrueltyPotential whatever the player makes him do]]) to the people around him. Compare this to [[VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoViceCity Tommy]] Tommy Vercetti]], who alienates and belittles his inner circle and [[VideoGame/GrandTheftAutoIII Claude]] Claude]], who [[spoiler: repays the women who save his life by killing the brother of one and then (possibly) shooting and killing the other for ''talking too much'']].
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* WorstAid: The medical personnel some how can magical revive people who died from gunfire, explosions, and fire just with CPR, and still run in to the enter the area the insane gun man (i.e. you) is still shooting up. That pales in comparison to all the people they '''run over''' in their pursuit of saving lives.

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* WorstAid: The medical personnel some how can magical revive people who died from gunfire, explosions, and fire just with CPR, and still run in to the enter the area the insane gun man (i.e. , you) is still shooting up. That pales in comparison to all the people they '''run over''' in their pursuit of saving lives.



* YouKnowImBlackRight: Played with. CJ has been working with Wu Zi Mu (or "Woozie"), a Triad leader who tries to hide the fact that he's blind, but fails spectacularly. When CJ responds to Woozie's big reveal by saying "No shit!", he then asks if Woozie knows he's black. The Triad's response? "I'm blind, Carl, not stupid."

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* YouKnowImBlackRight: Played with. CJ C.J. has been working with Wu Zi Mu (or "Woozie"), a Triad leader who tries to hide the fact that he's blind, but fails spectacularly. When CJ C.J. responds to Woozie's big reveal by saying "No shit!", he then asks if Woozie knows he's black. The Triad's response? "I'm blind, Carl, not stupid."



-->'''Ryder:''' CJ, to the left!\\
'''CJ:''' Your left, or my left?\\

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-->'''Ryder:''' CJ, C.J., to the left!\\
'''CJ:''' '''C.J.:''' Your left, or my left?\\
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* TalkingDownTheSuicidal: CJ comes across a rapper threatening to jump. He makes a token effort to get him down, but in the end steals a straw truck so he lands semi-safely.

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* TalkingDownTheSuicidal: CJ C.J. comes across a rapper Madd Dogg, who's threatening to jump. He makes a token effort to get him down, but in the end steals a straw truck so he lands semi-safely.



* ThisIsSomethingHesGotToDoHimself: CJ invokes this trope on Sweet in the final mission. CJ insists he takes on the BigBad alone in order to make up for running out on his gang when they needed him most.

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* ThisIsSomethingHesGotToDoHimself: CJ C.J. invokes this trope on Sweet in the final mission. CJ C.J. insists he takes on the BigBad alone in order to make up for running out on his gang when they needed him most.



* ToxicFriendInfluence: CJ, the protagonist, [[VillainProtagonist isn't exactly a paragon of morality]], but he tends towards PragmaticVillainy. His friends are all dumb thugs to a greater or a lesser extent. A typical mission will begin with them explaining their latest scheme, him [[OnlySaneMan pointing out how risky it is]], them [[BerserkButton calling him a buster]] (mainly Ryder, for whom this is almost a CatchPhrase), and him agreeing to go along with what turns out to be an absolute clusterfuck with at least seven people shooting at him at once. [[{{Railroading}} Of course, if he didn't go along, we wouldn't have a plot]]...

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* ToxicFriendInfluence: CJ, C.J., the protagonist, [[VillainProtagonist isn't exactly a paragon of morality]], but he tends towards PragmaticVillainy. His friends are all dumb thugs to a greater or a lesser extent. A typical mission will begin with them explaining their latest scheme, him [[OnlySaneMan pointing out how risky it is]], them [[BerserkButton calling him a buster]] (mainly Ryder, for whom this is almost a CatchPhrase), and him agreeing to go along with what turns out to be an absolute clusterfuck with at least seven people shooting at him at once. [[{{Railroading}} Of course, if he didn't go along, we wouldn't have a plot]]...



* TrashTalk: CJ does this all the time in combat. "Oh, look, a gun." *Blam*

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* TrashTalk: CJ C.J. does this all the time in combat. "Oh, look, a gun." *Blam*



* TrueCompanions: The group CJ builds during the course of the game is large, diverse and bound together like family.

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* TrueCompanions: The group CJ C.J. builds during the course of the game is large, diverse and bound together like family.



** RC Plane, Query Missions, Caesar's Races, Pilot School, rhythm sequences.

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** RC Plane, Query Missions, Caesar's Races, Pilot School, rhythm sequences. sequences...



** Its implied through his dialogue he just fooled CJ into thinking [[spoiler:he got on the helicopter]] - he knew CJ was trying to kill him, and needed him to think he had in order to get his help.

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** Its implied through his dialogue he just fooled CJ C.J. into thinking [[spoiler:he got on the helicopter]] - he knew CJ C.J. was trying to kill him, and needed him to think he had in order to get his help.



* TheUnfought: Officer Tenpenny is the meanest, most {{manipulative|Bastard}} son of a bitch in the game, but you never get to actually fight him. After a city-wide car chase, he ends up losing control of his truck and driving right off a bridge through a concrete barrier, just in front of [[WhereItAllBegan CJ's home]]. [[spoiler:CJ is convinced by Sweet not to drive a bullet in the man's head "just to make sure", and lets Tenpenny die of his own internal injuries.]]
* UngratefulBastard: Mike Toreno is very ungrateful when CJ and the other members of Mike's Loco Syndicate rescue him from the Da Nang Boys in Mike's self-titled mission. Upon being rescued, instead of thanking his rescuers, the first thing Mike does is point a gun at CJ and say "Who the fuck is this?!".

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* TheUnfought: Officer Tenpenny is the meanest, most {{manipulative|Bastard}} son of a bitch in the game, but you never get to actually fight him. After a city-wide car chase, he ends up losing control of his truck and driving right off a bridge through a concrete barrier, just in front of [[WhereItAllBegan CJ's C.J.'s home]]. [[spoiler:CJ [[spoiler:C.J. is convinced by Sweet not to drive a bullet in into the man's head "just to make sure", and lets Tenpenny die of his own internal injuries.]]
* UngratefulBastard: Mike Toreno is very ungrateful when CJ and the other members of Mike's Loco Syndicate rescue him from the Da Nang Boys in Mike's self-titled mission. Upon being rescued, instead of thanking his rescuers, the first thing Mike does is point a gun at CJ C.J. and say "Who the fuck is this?!".



** Not only can Carl Johnson pilot airplanes perfectly the first time he clambers into the cockpit, he also learns how to fly a Harrier jet just as fast (all of his previous experience likely being little more than a P-51, an Apache, and a Learjet) and learn how to properly operate all of the weapons systems well enough to defeat several experienced pilots in a dogfight and destroy boats sitting in a lake with heat-seaking missiles.

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** Not only can Carl Johnson C.J. pilot airplanes perfectly the first time he clambers into the cockpit, he also learns how to fly a Harrier jet just as fast (all of his previous experience likely being little more than a P-51, an Apache, and a Learjet) and learn how to properly operate all of the weapons systems well enough to defeat several experienced pilots in a dogfight and destroy boats sitting in a lake with heat-seaking missiles.



* VillainExitStageLeft: {{Averted|Trope}} in the final mission. This is what [[spoiler:Tenpenny intended to do -- bail out of Los Santos, or perhaps out of San Andreas for good, even as the city burns with riots over news that he has been cleared of charges of corruption (thanks to blackmailing CJ into concealing damaging evidence). Not if CJ and Sweet had something to say about that]].

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* VillainExitStageLeft: {{Averted|Trope}} in the final mission. This is what [[spoiler:Tenpenny intended to do -- bail out of Los Santos, or perhaps out of San Andreas for good, even as the city burns with riots over news that he has been cleared of charges of corruption (thanks to blackmailing CJ C.J. into concealing damaging evidence). Not if CJ C.J. and Sweet had something to say about that]].



** CJ himself lampshades some of these missions himself occasionally, especially during the Toreno missions, in which he would have just walked away and never looked back if it wasn't for the fact that Toreno happens to be the key to getting Sweet out of jail.
* VirtualPaperDoll: For the first time in the series, you are given a highly customizable character in the form of CJ -- you can make him skinny, buff or fat, change his hairstyle and facial hair, and buy him a wide variety of clothes.

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** CJ C.J. himself lampshades some of these missions himself occasionally, especially during the Toreno missions, in which he would have just walked away and never looked back if it wasn't for the fact that Toreno happens to be the key to getting Sweet out of jail.
* VirtualPaperDoll: For the first time in the series, you are given a highly customizable character in the form of CJ C.J. -- you can make him skinny, buff or fat, change his hairstyle and facial hair, and buy him a wide variety of clothes.



* {{WAFF}}: If you move CJ to certain places, you can start a "two player run", and a second player will plug the controller, choose one of the characters and play with you. You can't go on missions but you can kill and destroy stuff together JustForFun. If both player are near each other, any of them can press the L1 button, [[TimeStandsStill the time will stop]], and the characters hug and kiss, even if it's [[HoYay CJ and another guy]] (and [[ForcefulKiss you can't deny the kiss]]). You can even kiss a police officer... [[{{Narm}} This so out of place for a GTA it's more hilarious than cute]].

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* {{WAFF}}: If you move CJ C.J. to certain places, you can start a "two player run", and a second player will plug the controller, choose one of the characters and play with you. You can't go on missions but you can kill and destroy stuff together JustForFun. If both player are near each other, any of them can press the L1 button, [[TimeStandsStill the time will stop]], and the characters hug and kiss, even if it's [[HoYay CJ C.J. and another guy]] (and [[ForcefulKiss you can't deny the kiss]]). You can even kiss a police officer... [[{{Narm}} This so out of place for a GTA it's more hilarious than cute]].



* TheWarSequence: At the end of the Los Santos mission chain when CJ arrives late to a gang fight after discovering a horrible secret and has to kill waves of Ballas (some of them driving cars) while protecting his brother, with only the help of a few surviving gang members and some cars parked in a circle for cover.
* WatchThePaintJob: After reuniting with Big Smoke, CJ finds that Smoke has gotten himself a pretty nice car, and they drive to Beverly's funeral in it. As they're leaving the cemetery, some Ballas show up and pull a drive-by. [[EveryCarIsAPinto Take a wild guess what happens to Smoke's new car.]] "AW MUTHAFUCKA, MY CAR!"

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* TheWarSequence: At the end of the Los Santos mission chain when CJ C.J. arrives late to a gang fight after discovering a horrible secret and has to kill waves of Ballas (some of them driving cars) while protecting his brother, with only the help of a few surviving gang members and some cars parked in a circle for cover.
* WatchThePaintJob: After reuniting with Big Smoke, CJ C.J. finds that Smoke has gotten himself a pretty nice car, and they drive to Beverly's funeral in it. As they're leaving the cemetery, some Ballas show up and pull a drive-by. [[EveryCarIsAPinto Take a wild guess what happens to Smoke's new car.]] "AW MUTHAFUCKA, MY CAR!"



* WetBlanketWife: Kendl Johnson, sister of protagonist CJ and lover of CJ's ally, Caesar Vialpando, constantly acts as an exasperated voice of reason between the two macho {{Gangbangers}}. She usually has some sort of gripe against their lifestyle, but she's often right, such as when one of them plans to [[LeeroyJenkins plans to run off and do something stupid.]]

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* WetBlanketWife: Kendl Johnson, sister of protagonist CJ C.J. and lover of CJ's C.J.'s ally, Caesar Vialpando, constantly acts as an exasperated voice of reason between the two macho {{Gangbangers}}. She usually has some sort of gripe against their lifestyle, but she's often right, such as when one of them plans to [[LeeroyJenkins plans to run off and do something stupid.]]



* WhamEpisode: "The Green Sabre". Not only are [[spoiler: your best friends Ryder and Smoke revealed as working with the enemies (C.R.A.S.H. and the Ballas), but your brother Sweet is shot and arrested, Grove Street goes to shit, you lose all the territory you'd captured up to this point, and you're taken out in the middle of nowhere to do an errand for Tenpenny and Pulaski. Just... Holy shit]].

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* WhamEpisode: "The Green Sabre". Not only are [[spoiler: your best friends Ryder and Smoke revealed as working with the enemies (C.R.A.S.H. and the Ballas), but your brother Sweet is shot and arrested, Grove Street goes to shit, you lose all the territory you'd captured up to this point, and you're taken out in the middle of nowhere to do an errand for Tenpenny and Pulaski. Just... Holy holy shit]].



** If CJ drives any trashy car around San Andreas, [[NonPlayerCharacter NPCs]] will often say things like "What a piece of shit!".

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** If CJ C.J. drives any trashy car around San Andreas, [[NonPlayerCharacter NPCs]] will often say things like "What a piece of shit!".



** CJ says a variation of this after [[spoiler: killing his friend-turned-crack-pusher Big Smoke]].

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** CJ C.J. says a variation of this after [[spoiler: killing his friend-turned-crack-pusher Big Smoke]].



* WhatMeasureIsAMook: The game follows this trope in order to FollowThePlottedLine. CJ is told by some corrupt cops that if he leaves town, they'll pin the murder of another cop on him. Thing is, during the game you can murder cops and civilians by the dozens with your comeuppance being...respawning at the police station or hospital less 10% of your money.
** Tenpenny and later Toreno stonewalls any attempts to put CJ away for good. And besides, it's knocking out a few fellow officers off the ladder.

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* WhatMeasureIsAMook: The game follows this trope in order to FollowThePlottedLine. CJ C.J. is told by some corrupt cops that if he leaves town, they'll pin the murder of another cop on him. Thing is, during the game you can murder cops and civilians by the dozens with your comeuppance being... respawning at the police station or hospital less 10% of your money.
** Tenpenny and later Toreno stonewalls stonewall any attempts to put CJ C.J. away for good. And besides, it's knocking out a few fellow officers off the ladder.



** When CJ crashes into cars, he tends to shout insults at them. e.g. "did you buy your license!?" or, "Oh, you asshole, my shit!" While he is technically insulting the driver of the other car, some of the lines could be interpreted as insults to the player's own driving abilities.

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** When CJ C.J. crashes into cars, he tends to shout insults at them. e.g. "did you buy your license!?" or, "Oh, you asshole, my shit!" While he is technically insulting the driver of the other car, some of the lines could be interpreted as insults to the player's own driving abilities.



* WhereItAllBegan: The last few missions take place in Los Santos again. The final cut scene takes right in Grove Street, where CJ started his adventure after coming back home.
* WhileRomeBurns: During the last mission, [[spoiler:while riots are breaking all across Los Santos and CJ is storming Big Smoke's crack palace killing everyone who gets in his way, Smoke himself is merely sitting in his pad playing video games.]]

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* WhereItAllBegan: The last few missions take place in Los Santos again. The final cut scene takes right in Grove Street, where CJ C.J. started his adventure after coming back home.
* WhileRomeBurns: During the last mission, [[spoiler:while riots are breaking all across Los Santos and CJ C.J. is storming Big Smoke's crack palace killing everyone who gets in his way, Smoke himself is merely sitting in his pad playing video games.]]



** Cesar is afraid of heights, as seen in a mission where he and CJ have to steal a car out of a cargo ship by lifting it out with a crane. CJ gets up in the crane while Cesar stays on the ground.
** CJ claims to be afraid of water at one point, after getting a [[{{Squick}} discarded condom on his face]] while swimming as a child. Ironically, he's the first character in GTA not to suffer from SuperDrowningSkills.

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** Cesar is afraid of heights, as seen in a mission where he and CJ C.J. have to steal a car out of a cargo ship by lifting it out with a crane. CJ C.J. gets up in the crane while Cesar stays on the ground.
** CJ C.J. claims to be afraid of water at one point, after getting a [[{{Squick}} discarded condom on his face]] while swimming as a child. Ironically, he's the first character in GTA not to suffer from SuperDrowningSkills.



** In the mission "High Noon", [[spoiler: Officer Pulaski reveals that he's wanted to just shoot CJ from the beginning. The only thing stopping him was Officer Tenpenny, who kept coming up with reasons to keep CJ alive]].
** CJ could just shoot every villain near the beginning.
** Same with every villain towards CJ as well, an example being [[spoiler: when you first meet Smoke, he could have just easily bashed CJ's head in, seeing his true nature and all that. Big Smoke's approach may be justified, though, in that he may have preferred to convince CJ to come to his side a la [[StarWars Emperor Palpatine to Luke Skywalker]], especially when Sweet early was the guy heading the Families and CJ at that point was his [[TheLancer lancer]].]]

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** In the mission "High Noon", [[spoiler: Officer Pulaski reveals that he's wanted to just shoot CJ C.J. from the beginning. The only thing stopping him was Officer Tenpenny, who kept coming up with reasons to keep CJ C.J. alive]].
** CJ C.J. could just shoot every villain near the beginning.
** Same with every villain towards CJ C.J. as well, an example being [[spoiler: when you first meet Big Smoke, he could have just easily bashed CJ's C.J.'s head in, seeing his true nature and all that. Big Smoke's approach may be justified, though, in that he may have preferred to convince CJ C.J. to come to his side a la [[StarWars Emperor Palpatine to Luke Skywalker]], especially when Sweet early was the guy heading the Families and CJ C.J. at that point was his [[TheLancer lancer]].]]



* WideOpenSandbox: Once all areas are unlocked, the player has access to a huge, open-ended, "living" region to explore, with widely varying geography, cities, and waterways. Even in the early stages of the game, when only Los Santos and countryside to the north is available, this still provides the player with more exploration space than most previous GTA games combined (and a cheat code, coupled with CJ's newfound ability to swim, makes it possible to explore the complete state from the start). Unlike the past games (and even the later GTA IV), the addition of rural areas and diverse city design give the game a sense of distance not found in the others; when C.J. is standing in the middle of the desert area, Los Santos seems a long way away.

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* WideOpenSandbox: Once all areas are unlocked, the player has access to a huge, open-ended, "living" region to explore, with widely varying geography, cities, and waterways. Even in the early stages of the game, when only Los Santos and countryside to the north is available, this still provides the player with more exploration space than most previous GTA games combined (and a cheat code, coupled with CJ's C.J.'s newfound ability to swim, makes it possible to explore the complete state from the start). Unlike the past games (and even the later GTA IV), the addition of rural areas and diverse city design give the game a sense of distance not found in the others; when C.J. is standing in the middle of the desert area, Los Santos seems a long way away.



** In the mission "Photo Opportunity", CJ and Cesar are taking pictures of a drug trade from a rooftop across the street. While they do this, the two are constantly shouting at the top of their lungs at each other. [[WhatCouldHaveBeen This is a remnant of the beta]], where the two would have been taking pictures from a helicopter rather than from a rooftop.
* WizardNeedsFoodBadly: The game tied CJ's life meter to his hunger. If you go without eating for a long time, CJ's fat and muscle stats begin to deplete, and his life meter eventually starts draining. Luckily, you'd have to go a very long time without food before the game starts to remind you that you need to eat and you'd practically have to be starving CJ on purpose if he were to die from hunger. Since food is the only way to recover energy while not on a mission, eating too much (except salads) would make CJ gain weight, while eating too much ''in one sitting'' results [[VomitIndiscretionShot in his meal coming back to haunt him]]. And don't forget the fact that, since it is tied with your life bar, ''[[HyperactiveMetabolism going for a burger heals the bullet holes in your body]]''.
* WorstAid: The medical personnel some how can magical revive people who died from gunfire, explosions, and fire just with CPR, and still run in to the enter the area the insane gun man (I.E. you) is still shooting up. That pales in comparison to all the people they '''run over''' in their pursuit of saving lives.

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** In the mission "Photo Opportunity", CJ C.J. and Cesar are taking pictures of a drug trade from a rooftop across the street. While they do this, the two are constantly shouting at the top of their lungs at each other. [[WhatCouldHaveBeen This is a remnant of the beta]], where the two would have been taking pictures from a helicopter rather than from a rooftop.
* WizardNeedsFoodBadly: The game tied CJ's C.J.'s life meter to his hunger. If you go without eating for a long time, CJ's C.J.'s fat and muscle stats begin to deplete, and his life meter eventually starts draining. Luckily, you'd have to go a very long time without food before the game starts to remind you that you need to eat and you'd practically have to be starving CJ C.J. on purpose if he were to die from hunger. Since food is the only way to recover energy while not on a mission, eating too much (except salads) would make CJ C.J. gain weight, while eating too much ''in one sitting'' results [[VomitIndiscretionShot in his meal coming back to haunt him]]. And don't forget the fact that, since it is tied with your life bar, ''[[HyperactiveMetabolism going for a burger heals the bullet holes in your body]]''.
* WorstAid: The medical personnel some how can magical revive people who died from gunfire, explosions, and fire just with CPR, and still run in to the enter the area the insane gun man (I.E.(i.e. you) is still shooting up. That pales in comparison to all the people they '''run over''' in their pursuit of saving lives.
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* ShellShockedVeteran: Spoofed when one of the guests on a radio talk show, ''Entertaining America'', is a washed up action movie hero who earnestly believes everything that happened in his movies, including his friend dying in Vietnam, happened for real. And the host gets shot and killed by him when he calls him out on it.

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* ShellShockedVeteran: Spoofed when one of the guests on a radio talk show, ''Entertaining America'', "Entertaining America", is a washed up action movie hero who earnestly believes everything that happened in his movies, including his friend dying in Vietnam, happened for real. And the host gets shot and killed by him when he calls him out on it.



* ShirtlessScene: The game gives players the option to dress CJ however they wish... that includes stripping him to his underpants for a nearly completely nude shootout with cops and rival gangsters! Is the block hot or is it just me?

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* ShirtlessScene: The game gives players the option to dress CJ C.J. however they wish... that includes stripping him to his underpants for a nearly completely nude shootout with cops and rival gangsters! Is the block hot or is it just me?



* ShopliftAndDie: Been doing a little gambling in a casino, and you're a bit in the red? No problem, they'll give you time to pay them back...about five minutes real time. After that, the casino owner will send a hit squad of four guys with SMG's after you. Even if you happen to be the casino owner...

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* ShopliftAndDie: Been doing a little gambling in a casino, and you're a bit in the red? No problem, they'll give you time to pay them back... about five minutes in real time. After that, the casino owner will send a hit squad of four guys with SMG's after you. Even if you happen to be the casino owner...



* SignsOfDisrepair: A billboard shows a girl drinking a bottle of milky-white soda. At the end of a mission, CJ's out-of-control car changes its message from "A taste of what's to come!" to "A taste of come!"

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* SignsOfDisrepair: A billboard shows a girl drinking a bottle of milky-white soda. At the end of a mission, CJ's C.J.'s out-of-control car changes its message from "A taste of what's to come!" to "A taste of come!"



* ASimplePlan: "[[MostAnnoyingSound ALL WE HAD TO DO, WAS FOLLOW THE DAMN TRAIN, CJ!]]"

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* ASimplePlan: "[[MostAnnoyingSound ALL WE HAD TO DO, WAS FOLLOW THE DAMN TRAIN, CJ!]]"C.J.!]]"



* SinkOrSwimMentor: Mike Toreno "teaches" CJ to learn to fly by giving him a plane and ordering him to figure it out for himself.

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* SinkOrSwimMentor: Mike Toreno "teaches" CJ C.J. to learn to fly by giving him a plane and ordering him to figure it out for himself.



* SlashedThroat: It's possible to do this. It's not possible to see it in the console version, since the third-person camera view obscures the sight, but it sounds pretty messy. The PC port, on the other hand, allows for the player to see it in full it's an initial deep stab followed by CJ ripping the blade out the front of the victim's neck.
* SleevesAreForWimps: CJ starts out wearing a white tanktop.

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* SlashedThroat: It's possible to do this. It's not possible to see it in the console version, since the third-person camera view obscures the sight, but it sounds pretty messy. The PC port, on the other hand, allows for the player to see it in full it's an initial deep stab followed by CJ C.J. ripping the blade out the front of the victim's neck.
* SleevesAreForWimps: CJ C.J. starts out wearing a white tanktop.



** Ryder talks big and acts like he's "too fucking intelligent" to go to school. While Ryder is a decent shot with a gun, even Sweet tells Ryder that CJ (the player character) has been doing all the work and might be better at being a gangbanger than Ryder is. [[spoiler: After you discover Ryder betrayed your gang for a rival gang, he still acts like he's the best. Luckily, you get to put a bullet in his head.]]

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** Ryder talks big and acts like he's "too fucking intelligent" to go to school. While Ryder is a decent shot with a gun, even Sweet tells Ryder that CJ C.J. (the player character) has been doing all the work and might be better at being a gangbanger than Ryder is. [[spoiler: After you discover Ryder betrayed your gang for a rival gang, he still acts like he's the best. Luckily, you get to put a bullet in his head.]]



* SnowMeansDeath: This is present when CJ returns to Liberty City later in the game, he shows some Italian mobsters how to have fun in the snow, Grove Street style.

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* SnowMeansDeath: This is present when CJ C.J. returns to Liberty City later in the game, he shows some Italian mobsters how to have fun in the snow, Grove Street style.



* TheSpook: Mike Toreno. Even his name is suspect, since he was [[spoiler:working undercover]] when CJ was introduced to him.

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* TheSpook: Mike Toreno. Even his name is suspect, since he was [[spoiler:working undercover]] when CJ C.J. was introduced to him.



* SteelEarDrums: [[PlayingWithATrope Played with]] in a mission. CJ and Catalina chase after redneck bank-robbers on a quad; CJ's driving, Catalina's shooting while sitting behind him. CJ keeps on berating her shooting right next to his ears, even saying at one point that he thinks he's gone deaf. However, he suffers no hearing loss whatsoever, and all other instances of people being gunners in/on the same vehicle as him go without any mention from him. (The difference between Catalina and all other instances is that [[AxCrazy Catalina is a lot more trigger-happy than the others are]].)

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* SteelEarDrums: [[PlayingWithATrope Played with]] in a mission. CJ C.J. and Catalina chase after redneck bank-robbers on a quad; CJ's C.J.'s driving, Catalina's shooting while sitting behind him. CJ C.J. keeps on berating her shooting right next to his ears, even saying at one point that he thinks he's gone deaf. However, he suffers no hearing loss whatsoever, and all other instances of people being gunners in/on the same vehicle as him go without any mention from him. (The difference between Catalina and all other instances is that [[AxCrazy Catalina is a lot more trigger-happy than the others are]].)



* StoryOverwrite: In the mission "Dam and Blast", you have to sneak into the Sherman Dam and rig the power generators with explosives. Even if you get in, plant all the explosives, and get out without being spotted by the guards, the following cutscene will still show CJ running away from the police.

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* StoryOverwrite: In the mission "Dam and Blast", you have to sneak into the Sherman Dam and rig the power generators with explosives. Even if you get in, plant all the explosives, and get out without being spotted by the guards, the following cutscene will still show CJ C.J. running away from the police.



* StupidCrooks: Very early, CJ's friend Ryder tries to rob a Pizza House where he is a regular customer. He wears a PaperThinDisguise that consists of taking his hat off and putting on a nearly-transparent mask. The results are as expected.

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* StupidCrooks: Very early, CJ's C.J.'s friend Ryder tries to rob a Pizza House Stack where he is a regular customer. He wears a PaperThinDisguise that consists of taking his hat off and putting on a nearly-transparent mask. The results are as expected.



* StupidSurrender: This game is quite possibly the [[TooDumbToLive Crowning Moment of Stupid]] for this trope, more so because Rockstar Games had, even when the game was first released, developed a reputation for [[LampshadeHanging hanging lampshades]] and PaintingTheMedium. Carl Johnson not only surrenders without a fight the moment crooked cops Tenpenny and Pulaski point guns at him, but even spends several hours digging his own grave with Pulaski standing over him after Tenpenny has left to do more important things than keep a gun trained on a guy wearing 200% armor, 200% hit points, and strapped with weapons ranging from katanas to rocket launchers to rocket jetpacks. Only when Pulaski is about to execute the compliant CJ does he drop his gun for no apparent reason at all, which is apparently the trigger CJ needs to start trying to fight back... but only after he lets Pulaski climb into his (explosion and bullet proof but strangely not impact proof) cop car parked several meters away. Because the goal of the mission is to kill Pulaski, and it just has to be done only after engaging in a car chase along the entire length and breadth of the game map.

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* StupidSurrender: This game is quite possibly the [[TooDumbToLive Crowning Moment of Stupid]] for this trope, more so because Rockstar Games had, even when the game was first released, developed a reputation for [[LampshadeHanging hanging lampshades]] and PaintingTheMedium. Carl Johnson C.J. not only surrenders without a fight the moment crooked cops Tenpenny and Pulaski point guns at him, but even spends several hours digging his own grave with Pulaski standing over him after Tenpenny has left to do more important things than keep a gun trained on a guy wearing 200% armor, 200% hit points, and strapped with weapons ranging from katanas to rocket launchers to rocket jetpacks. Only when Pulaski is about to execute the compliant CJ C.J. does he drop his gun for no apparent reason at all, which is apparently the trigger CJ needs to start trying to fight back... but only after he lets Pulaski climb into his (explosion and bullet proof but strangely not impact proof) cop car parked several meters away. Because the goal of the mission is to kill Pulaski, and it just has to be done only after engaging in a car chase along the entire length and breadth of the game map.



* SuperDrowningSkills: The first game in the series to [[AvertedTrope avert]] this. Unless you're an NPC character controlled by the AI whose name isn't CJ. Then you die the second you hit even a shallow pond.

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* SuperDrowningSkills: The first game in the series to [[AvertedTrope avert]] this. Unless you're an NPC character controlled by the AI whose name isn't CJ.C.J. Then you die the second you hit even a shallow pond.



* SuspiciouslyAproposMusic: Depending on the player and a little luck, this can happen. For example, CJ could be on one of The Truth's missions, in the hippie van and high as a kite while "In A Gadda Da Vida" by Iron Butterfly is playing on the radio.

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* SuspiciouslyAproposMusic: Depending on the player and a little luck, this can happen. For example, CJ C.J. could be on one of The Truth's missions, in the hippie van and high as a kite while "In A Gadda Da Vida" by Iron Butterfly is playing on the radio.



* ThemeTuneRap: CJ's voice actor is Young Maylay, an up-and-coming rapper. His debut album, "San Andreas: The Mix Tapes", features a song that has him rapping about the game in character as CJ.

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* ThemeTuneRap: CJ's voice actor is Young Maylay, an up-and-coming rapper. His debut album, "San Andreas: The Mix Tapes", features a song that has him rapping about the game in character as CJ.C.J.
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