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** An NPC in Silesse points out that Holy Blood becomes magnified when two carriers have children, which is usually possible only through this.[[note]]Ayra and Holyn are an exception, being distant cousins.[[/note]] Coincidentally, this is also the chapter in which Claude (major Blagi) tells Sylvia (minor Blagi) how much she reminds him of his long-lost sister, though the official word on this pairing is KissingCousins.

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** An NPC in Silesse points out that Holy Blood becomes magnified when two carriers have children, which is usually possible only through this.[[note]]Ayra [[note]]Ira and Holyn are an exception, being distant cousins.[[/note]] Coincidentally, this is also the chapter in which Claude (major Blagi) tells Sylvia (minor Blagi) how much she reminds him of his long-lost sister, though the official word on this pairing is KissingCousins.



** There are two instances where ''both'' children for a pairing can inherit major blood: Ayra's children can inherit major Odo blood if their father is her distant cousin Holyn, and Sylvia's children can inherit major Blaggi blood if their father is Claude, also a cousin of hers according to WordOfGod. Ulster and Larcei cannot use the Balmung, however; despite the Balmung being available during the second half of the game (Major Odo holder Shanan now being a part of your army instead of an NPC), it is locked to him, as the Holy Weapons cannot be sold and pawned off. The only way either Ulster or Larcei can use it is via a glitch. Meanwhile, Sylvia's daughter Leen is a Dancer like her, hence she gains no real benefit from Major Blaggi Blood, and while her son Corple, a Priest, is an ideal choice for using the Valkyrie Staff, he doesn't join your army until Chapter 9 and is extremely underleveled at that point.

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** There are two instances where ''both'' children for a pairing can inherit major blood: Ayra's Ira's children can inherit major Odo blood if their father is her distant cousin Holyn, and Sylvia's children can inherit major Blaggi blood if their father is Claude, also a cousin of hers according to WordOfGod. Ulster and Larcei cannot use the Balmung, however; despite the Balmung being available during the second half of the game (Major Odo holder Shanan now being a part of your army instead of an NPC), it is locked to him, as the Holy Weapons cannot be sold and pawned off. The only way either Ulster or Larcei can use it is via a glitch. Meanwhile, Sylvia's daughter Leen is a Dancer like her, hence she gains no real benefit from Major Blaggi Blood, and while her son Corple, a Priest, is an ideal choice for using the Valkyrie Staff, he doesn't join your army until Chapter 9 and is extremely underleveled at that point.



** Some examples: the scene in which Deirdre and Sigurd confess their mutual love has Deirdre naked since she was bathing in a river before he came in, and they go through TheirFirstTime right after their marriage ceremony.[[spoiler: Lex and Ayra are naked in bed and clearly in the afterglow when Lex both explains his issues with Langobalt ''and'' proposes to Ayra]]; [[spoiler: Raquesis and Eldigan are ''this'' close to have sex after recognizing their feelings for each other, but he decides not to "taint" her and they settle for a LastKiss]]; and [[spoiler: Raquesis and Finn have sex right after their love confession, though this one is more understandable [[MustNotDieAVirgin since it happens right before Finn leaves for Lester not knowing if he'll ever be back to her]], and both of them were ''very'' emotionally exhausted after Eldigan's death.]]

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** Some examples: the scene in which Deirdre and Sigurd confess their mutual love has Deirdre naked since she was bathing in a river before he came in, and they go through TheirFirstTime right after their marriage ceremony.[[spoiler: Lex and Ayra Ira are naked in bed and clearly in the afterglow when Lex both explains his issues with Langobalt ''and'' proposes to Ayra]]; Ira]]; [[spoiler: Raquesis and Eldigan are ''this'' close to have sex after recognizing their feelings for each other, but he decides not to "taint" her and they settle for a LastKiss]]; and [[spoiler: Raquesis and Finn have sex right after their love confession, though this one is more understandable [[MustNotDieAVirgin since it happens right before Finn leaves for Lester not knowing if he'll ever be back to her]], and both of them were ''very'' emotionally exhausted after Eldigan's death.]]



* IncestIsRelative: At least two examples that are canon. Arvis and Deirdre are half-siblings. Raquesis and Eldigan are half-siblings (and were very close to doing it in the Oosawa manga). Holyn can be matched with Arya, but they may be more distant than third cousins. Julia and Seliph (half-siblings) is possible using glitches in the jealously system. Lana can be matched with Faval as can Lester with Patty and since their mothers are identical twins that makes them genetically half-siblings. Sylvia and Claude are implied to be full siblings who were separated when they were young (though WordOfGod says that they are cousins) and can be paired. Shannan can be matched with his cousin Larcei. Ares can be paired with Nanna and in their lover conversation in the final chapter, they even lampshade the fact that they are cousins as well as confirming that Raquesis was in love with Eldigan though Eldigan's feelings are not revealed.

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* IncestIsRelative: At least two examples that are canon. Arvis and Deirdre are half-siblings. Raquesis and Eldigan are half-siblings (and were very close to doing it in the Oosawa manga). Holyn can be matched with Arya, Ira, but they may be more distant than third cousins. Julia and Seliph (half-siblings) is possible using glitches in the jealously system. Lana can be matched with Faval as can Lester with Patty and since their mothers are identical twins that makes them genetically half-siblings. Sylvia and Claude are implied to be full siblings who were separated when they were young (though WordOfGod says that they are cousins) and can be paired. Shannan can be matched with his cousin Larcei. Ares can be paired with Nanna and in their lover conversation in the final chapter, they even lampshade the fact that they are cousins as well as confirming that Raquesis was in love with Eldigan though Eldigan's feelings are not revealed. If Lex is chosen to be a father in the first generation, his daughter can be matched with one of her cousins, either Johan or Johalva.



* InconsistentDub: Parts of the fan translation - for example, Ayra is called "Ira" in gameplay, but a conversation with Quan refers to her as "Ayra".

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* InconsistentDub: Parts of the fan translation - for example, Ayra Ira is called "Ira" in gameplay, but a conversation with Quan refers to her as "Ayra".



** [[TheLongList (takes deep breath)]] Patty and Lester & Faval and Rana (Their mothers Briggid and Adean were not only sisters, but ''identical twins''); Holyn and Ayra (both part of the royal house of Isaach, and so are distantly related), and by extension their children if they're not paired up; Shanan and Larcei; Ares and Nanna; Johan/Johalva and Lex's daughter; Azel's son and Julia; Claud and Sylvia (who are also canonically distantly related [[BrotherSisterIncest but the game implies that they could be long-lost siblings]]), and by extension THEIR children if you don't pair them up.

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** [[TheLongList (takes deep breath)]] Patty and Lester & Faval and Rana (Their mothers Briggid and Adean were not only sisters, but ''identical twins''); Holyn and Ayra Ira (both part of the royal house of Isaach, and so are distantly related), and by extension their children if they're not paired up; Shanan and Larcei; Ares and Nanna; Johan/Johalva and Lex's daughter; Azel's son and Julia; Claud and Sylvia (who are also canonically distantly related [[BrotherSisterIncest but the game implies that they could be long-lost siblings]]), and by extension THEIR children if you don't pair them up.



* LethalJokeCharacter: Dew, from the first generation. Starts at level one, with almost no offensive capabilities whatsoever, and he has without a doubt some of the best (base) growth rates in the first generation (sans HP). He's not [[CantCatchUp likely to contribute meaningfully to battles in the first generation]]; instead, his usefulness lies in the fact that he is one of the best [[KidAnova fathers]] in the game because of those growth rates' being passed down, in addition to the Bargain skill. His biggest flaw, his low HP growth, is mitigated by the HP growth bonuses granted by all degrees of Holy Blood; he is one of the best to pair with Briggid, and he is a strong contender for other mothers of physically-oriented children such as Ayra or Raquesis, all three of whom pass some degree of Holy Blood onto their kids.
** Though it's true that Dew passes on some very good growths, Bargain (everything's half price), and Sun Hit (absorb damage dealt as HP), he's still usually considered inferior to other partners such as Lex or Holyn for Arya (both give Arya a Hero Sword to pass down, Lex gives Arya's kids Minor Neir blood, Elite (double experience gain) and Ambush (always attack first when HP is lower than 50%), though Lex doesn't pass any weapons onto Ulster since Ulster can't use axes, and Holyn gives Arya's kids Major Odo blood, giving them twice the stat bonuses of their usual Minor Odo blood as well as twice the benefit for using swords, which are the only weapons Arya's kids can use, and gives Ulster his inventory; he also passes down Moonlight Hit, which is a mixed blessing since it competes with Arya's Comet Hit (which, 98% of the time, is much better) for activation and Beowulf and Finn for Raquesis (both remedy Raquesis' lack of skills to pass onto her kids, providing them with Pursuit and, in Beowulf's case, Charge, both skills considered vitally necessary as they give units more attacks per battle; Delmud is also able to inherit Beowulf's equipment)

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* LethalJokeCharacter: Dew, from the first generation. Starts at level one, with almost no offensive capabilities whatsoever, and he has without a doubt some of the best (base) growth rates in the first generation (sans HP). He's not [[CantCatchUp likely to contribute meaningfully to battles in the first generation]]; instead, his usefulness lies in the fact that he is one of the best [[KidAnova fathers]] in the game because of those growth rates' being passed down, in addition to the Bargain skill. His biggest flaw, his low HP growth, is mitigated by the HP growth bonuses granted by all degrees of Holy Blood; he is one of the best to pair with Briggid, and he is a strong contender for other mothers of physically-oriented children such as Ayra Ira or Raquesis, all three of whom pass some degree of Holy Blood onto their kids.
** Though it's true that Dew passes on some very good growths, Bargain (everything's half price), and Sun Hit (absorb damage dealt as HP), he's still usually considered inferior to other partners such as Lex or Holyn for Arya Ira (both give Arya Ira a Hero Sword to pass down, Lex gives Arya's Ira's kids Minor Neir blood, Elite (double experience gain) and Ambush (always attack first when HP is lower than 50%), though Lex doesn't pass any weapons onto Ulster since Ulster can't use axes, and Holyn gives Arya's Ira's kids Major Odo blood, giving them twice the stat bonuses of their usual Minor Odo blood as well as twice the benefit for using swords, which are the only weapons Arya's Ira's kids can use, and gives Ulster his inventory; he also passes down Moonlight Hit, which is a mixed blessing since it competes with Arya's Ira's Comet Hit (which, 98% of the time, is much better) for activation and Beowulf and Finn for Raquesis (both remedy Raquesis' lack of skills to pass onto her kids, providing them with Pursuit and, in Beowulf's case, Charge, both skills considered vitally necessary as they give units more attacks per battle; Delmud is also able to inherit Beowulf's equipment)



** Sometimes requires a great deal of effort to avoid losing recruits, such as in [[FragileSpeedster Arya's]] case: you must avoid damaging her since you might inadvertently kill her (she has the fewest HP you have yet seen on any enemy unit as well as the lowest defense), she's unbelievably dangerous as she has the opportunity to one-shot literally everyone in your party, ''and'' you can't recruit her until you take the castle she's guarding, being physically in your way. It's necessary to lure her away from the castle so you can kill the guards and take it, then run up to her and talk to her, all while being very careful never to engage her lest she pull off one of her relatively common ten-hit combos or lest you end up killing her by accident.
* LoveAtFirstSight: Famously, Sigurd and Diadora, and they even get married after Chapter 1 (Diadora can't be found until near the end of it). Most of the manga adaptations feature this in various ways.
* LoveRuinsTheRealm: [[spoiler: The birth of Julius (one of Arvis and Diadora's two children together) solidifies Manfroy's plans to allow Loptyr's resurrection, as Julius is born with Major Loptyr blood. Subverted in that Deirdre was brainwashed by Manfroy, and Arvis was not knowingly helping his schemes - and when he ''does'' figure it out (along with the fact that [[BrotherSisterIncest Diadora's his half-sister]]), he becomes remorseful.]]

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** Sometimes requires a great deal of effort to avoid losing recruits, such as in [[FragileSpeedster Arya's]] Ira's]] case: you must avoid damaging her since you might inadvertently kill her (she has the fewest HP you have yet seen on any enemy unit as well as the lowest defense), she's unbelievably dangerous as she has the opportunity to one-shot literally everyone in your party, ''and'' you can't recruit her until you take the castle she's guarding, being physically in your way. It's necessary to lure her away from the castle so you can kill the guards and take it, then run up to her and talk to her, all while being very careful never to engage her lest she pull off one of her relatively common ten-hit combos or lest you end up killing her by accident.
* LoveAtFirstSight: Famously, Sigurd and Diadora, Deirdre, and they even get married after Chapter 1 (Diadora (Deirdre can't be found until near the end of it). Most of the manga adaptations feature this in various ways.
* LoveRuinsTheRealm: [[spoiler: The birth of Julius (one of Arvis and Diadora's Deirdre's two children together) solidifies Manfroy's plans to allow Loptyr's resurrection, as Julius is born with Major Loptyr blood. Subverted in that Deirdre was brainwashed by Manfroy, and Arvis was not knowingly helping his schemes - and when he ''does'' figure it out (along with the fact that [[BrotherSisterIncest Diadora's his half-sister]]), he becomes remorseful.]]



* MacGuffinSuperPerson: A somewhat older version is the teenaged Diadora, since [[spoiler: if she ever gave birth, there would be a high chance for said kid to be a vessel for a Dark God.]]

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* MacGuffinSuperPerson: A somewhat older version is the teenaged Diadora, Deirdre, since [[spoiler: if she ever gave birth, there would be a high chance for said kid to be a vessel for a Dark God.]]



* MagikarpPower: A surprisingly large number of party members (especially [[ActionGirl Arya]] and [[VideoGameStealing Dew]]) in the first generation start off slightly too weak to qualify as [[GlassCannon Glass Cannons]]; they require some leveling to be anything other than nerve-wracking to use in open battle, as they have few HP and relying on their defenses turns their use into a [[LuckBasedMission Luck-Based Mission]] ''at the best of times''. Therefore, without some tender, loving care, they'll have to remain behind the more solid characters. Once they rack up some levels, though, they pass almost immediately from terrifyingly fragile to remarkably solid (usually, at least in the case of the Magikarp-struck Mages, when they promote to their second class, though all Arya and Dew really need are a few levels, Arya to cement her speed advantage, and Dew to enjoy his remarkable stat growth, though admittedly Dew's prowess as a fighter truly comes to the fore when he promotes since he then gains other useful battle Skills) and, rarely stopping there, then travel directly into the lands of wickedly powerful. This is usually averted in the second generation, as even though most characters start off weak, enemies are ''also'' generally weaker to begin with, making it a much more level playing field.

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* MagikarpPower: A surprisingly large number of party members (especially [[ActionGirl Arya]] Ira]] and [[VideoGameStealing Dew]]) in the first generation start off slightly too weak to qualify as [[GlassCannon Glass Cannons]]; they require some leveling to be anything other than nerve-wracking to use in open battle, as they have few HP and relying on their defenses turns their use into a [[LuckBasedMission Luck-Based Mission]] ''at the best of times''. Therefore, without some tender, loving care, they'll have to remain behind the more solid characters. Once they rack up some levels, though, they pass almost immediately from terrifyingly fragile to remarkably solid (usually, at least in the case of the Magikarp-struck Mages, when they promote to their second class, though all Arya Ira and Dew really need are a few levels, Arya Ira to cement her speed advantage, and Dew to enjoy his remarkable stat growth, though admittedly Dew's prowess as a fighter truly comes to the fore when he promotes since he then gains other useful battle Skills) and, rarely stopping there, then travel directly into the lands of wickedly powerful. This is usually averted in the second generation, as even though most characters start off weak, enemies are ''also'' generally weaker to begin with, making it a much more level playing field.



* MotherhoodIsSuperior: Gen 2 characters except Celice and Leaf are naturally bonded to their mothers, as their fathers could be anyone in Sigurd's army. While most conversations express the kids' loves and desires to find their lost mothers, they tend to avoid discussing the same about the fathers altogether, [[spoiler: except Levin and Finn, if they are married.]]

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* MotherhoodIsSuperior: Gen 2 characters except Celice Seliph and Leaf Leif are naturally bonded to their mothers, as their fathers could be anyone in Sigurd's army. While most conversations express the kids' loves and desires to find their lost mothers, they tend to avoid discussing the same about the fathers altogether, [[spoiler: except Levin Lewyn and Finn, if they are married.]]



* PowerUpLetdown: Leif's Promotion to Prince in Thracia 776 is one of the worst in the entire series, with only a +1 to all his stats except Build and Movement. Considering that Leif's stats are already pretty dang anemic...
** Played with in that he also gets an invisible Elite skill (double exp) and this combined with the timing of his promotion (late in the game, when you already have a ton of growth-boosting cursader scrolls) basically means he's quickly getting ''way'' better than those pathetic stat boosts.



** Can actually reach GameBreakingBug status if it allows what was supposed to be a [[MookHorrorShow NPC Horror Show]] to go in favor of the NPCs. You're not allowed into the final section of Chapter 4 until [[spoiler:Mahnya's squadron gets massacred by the Beige Ritter and Pamela's squadron]], so if the allied NPCs actually survive, the game won't progress. Likewise, if by some chance [[spoiler:Quan and the Leonster knights]] defeat [[spoiler:Travant and the Thracian Dragon Knights]], again overcoming a huge disadvantage, [[spoiler:Quan]] can actually prevent you from progressing by taking Phinora Castle, since you can only recapture an enemy castle and [[spoiler:Quan]] is considered an allied NPC. (It should be noted that this is harder to have happen by accident because the allied unit in question has very severe movement penalties in the desert where this takes place and starts out further from Phinora than your army is. And no, you can't help him even though you're not actually locked out of the arena where it occurs like you were in Chapter 4, because his enemies are also coded as NPCs until they've finished defeating him.)

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** Can actually reach GameBreakingBug status if it allows what was supposed to be a [[MookHorrorShow NPC Horror Show]] to go in favor of the NPCs. You're not allowed into the final section of Chapter 4 until [[spoiler:Mahnya's squadron gets massacred by the Beige Ritter and Pamela's squadron]], so if the allied NPCs actually survive, the game won't progress. Likewise, if by some chance [[spoiler:Quan and the Leonster knights]] defeat [[spoiler:Travant and the Thracian Dragon Knights]], Knights]] in the second portion of Chapter 5, again overcoming a huge disadvantage, [[spoiler:Quan]] can actually prevent you from progressing by taking Phinora Castle, since you can only recapture an enemy castle and [[spoiler:Quan]] is considered an allied NPC. (It should be noted that this is harder to have happen by accident because the allied unit in question has very severe movement penalties in the desert where this takes place and starts out further from Phinora than your army is. And no, you can't help him even though you're not actually locked out of the arena area where it occurs like you were in Chapter 4, because his enemies are also coded as NPCs until they've finished defeating him.)



** ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening'', where many of these characters and items appear in English for the first time, blows the lid off of this. Some long-preferred romanizations are made canon (like the Tyrfing problem above finally being put to bed), but it also uses some decidedly left-field names for some characters and renames a few of them outright - Ayra's kids most prominently (who have become ''Larcei'' and ''Ulster'' for the girl and boy, respectively).

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** ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening'', where many of these characters and items appear in English for the first time, blows the lid off of this. Some long-preferred romanizations are made canon (like the Tyrfing problem above finally being put to bed), but it also uses some decidedly left-field names for some characters and renames a few of them outright - Ayra's Ira's kids most prominently (who have become ''Larcei'' and ''Ulster'' for the girl and boy, respectively).



** There's also almost [[spoiler:any couple coming from the first generation as well. Ethlyn and Quan perish in the desert during the DragonRider ambush, all the males over 15 years old except for Finn die in Barhera alongside Sigurd (and Lewyn, but then he's BackFromTheDead via Forseti), and the girls either are missing (Ayra, Briggid, Raquesis, Sylvia), retired (Adean), or dead (Tailto, Ferry) as well.]]

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** There's also almost [[spoiler:any couple coming from the first generation as well. Ethlyn and Quan perish in the desert during the DragonRider ambush, all the males over 15 years old except for Finn die in Barhera alongside Sigurd (and Lewyn, but then he's BackFromTheDead via Forseti), and the girls either are missing (Ayra, (Ira, Briggid, Raquesis, Sylvia), retired (Adean), or dead (Tailto, Ferry) as well.]]



** [[spoiler: The first castle is guarded by Lex's father, who will disown and attempt to kill him if you move him into engagement range. After his father is dead and his castle taken, Quan and Ethlyn enter the desert in the South-East with their knights and infant daughter, pursued by Thracian wyvern knights wielding horseslayers. It is completely impossible to reach them in time, and they are killed with all their men, their daughter being kidnapped by the enemy commander. Sigurd will learn of his sister and brother-in-law's murders as soon as he takes the next castle - which is guarded by Tiltyu's father, who will again disown and attempt to kill her, either dying at her hand or in front of her eyes. After defeating the third enemy army (not counting the wyverns, Sigurd rides up to the friendly Grannvale castle to end the mission, and he and his forces are welcomed to the capital, where they are betrayed and seized by Arvis and his army. Arvis then displays to Sigurd the fact that he has stolen Sigurd's wife and brainwashed her into loving him, right before he slaughters Sigurd and all the troops you've kept alive for the last six chapters.]]

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** [[spoiler: The first castle is guarded by Lex's father, who will disown and attempt to kill him if you move him into engagement range. After his father is dead and his castle taken, Quan and Ethlyn enter the desert in the South-East with their knights and infant daughter, pursued by Thracian wyvern knights wielding horseslayers. It is completely impossible to reach them in time, and they are killed with all their men, their daughter being kidnapped by the enemy commander. (Though the Thracians aren't even marked as enemies until this point, so even if you could reach them in time--and your lone flying unit might actually be able to--you can't help them.) Sigurd will learn of his sister and brother-in-law's murders as soon as he takes the next castle - which is guarded by Tiltyu's father, who will again disown and attempt to kill her, either dying at her hand or in front of her eyes. After defeating the third enemy army (not counting the wyverns, wyverns), Sigurd rides up to the friendly Grannvale castle to end the mission, and he and his forces are welcomed to the capital, where they are betrayed and seized by Arvis and his army. Arvis then displays to Sigurd the fact that he has stolen Sigurd's wife and brainwashed her into loving him, right before he slaughters Sigurd and all the troops you've kept alive for the last six chapters.]]



* DeconstructorFleet: Leif's story is a Decontruction of Marth's story from start to finish. Both lords were driven from their homeland and retook it, but Leif runs into a more CrapsackWorld. Leif had to run from place to place since he was two, and with only one knight to protect him consistently. Priestess captured by pirates? The thief who looks like he's letting her out just wants to take advantage of her. Leif's first time in a castle is breaking out of the dungeon. Lots of those who join him have unsavoury motives. Most of Leif's journey seems less like a liberation army and more like a refugee group, given how much of their movements are based on being chased. [[spoiler: Worst of all, while Leif succeeds in liberating Leonster, he and his are are besieged by the very empire he retook it from until Seliph bails him out.]] Ultimately reconstructed once Leif and his army succeed in their goals in the very end.

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* DeconstructorFleet: Leif's story is a Decontruction of Marth's story from start to finish. Both lords were driven from their homeland and retook it, but Leif runs into a more CrapsackWorld. Leif had to run from place to place since he was two, and with only one knight to protect him consistently. Priestess captured by pirates? The thief who looks like he's letting her out just wants to take advantage of her. Leif's first time in a castle is breaking out of the dungeon. Lots of those who join him have unsavoury motives. Most of Leif's journey seems less like a liberation army and more like a refugee group, given how much of their movements are based on being chased. [[spoiler: Worst of all, while Leif succeeds in liberating Leonster, he and his are army are besieged by the very empire he retook it from until Seliph bails him out.]] Ultimately reconstructed once Leif and his army succeed in their goals in the very end.



* {{Interquel}}: Takes place in between chapters 6 and 7 of ''Genealogy''.
* InvulnerableCivilians: Averted even more so than in ''Genealogy''. They can also be captured by enemy soldiers and taken away.



* NintendoHard: The series is normally hard, but in a game where Heal Staves can miss, ''Thracia 776'' turns it UpToEleven.
** However, it should be noted that Thracia's difficulty are not because of the lack of good characters, terrible Lord, or powerful enemies. Thracia 776 is notable for its extremely underpowered enemies, alongside an extremely powerful cast of player characters, so the game relies on surprise factor and some clever map design for most of its difficulty.
* NoFairCheating: Gungnir exists, but is DummiedOut. [[EasterEgg It has a description telling you not to hack.]]
* NonLethalKO: Capturing can generally only be done at low HP, and when you release a unit, they leave the battlefield and don't return. The benefit from this is that you can take the enemy's equipment, in a game in which equipment doesn't have much durability and is very expensive to purchase.



* {{Interquel}}: Takes place in between chapters 6 and 7 of ''Genealogy''.
* InvulnerableCivilians: Averted even more so than in ''Genealogy''. They can also be captured by enemy soldiers and taken away.
* NintendoHard: The series is normally hard, but in a game where Heal Staves can miss, ''Thracia 776'' turns it UpToEleven.
** However, it should be noted that Thracia's difficulty are not because of the lack of good characters, terrible Lord, or powerful enemies. Thracia 776 is notable for its extremely underpowered enemies, alongside an extremely powerful cast of player characters, so the game relies on surprise factor and some clever map design for most of its difficulty.
* NoFairCheating: Gungnir exists, but is DummiedOut. [[EasterEgg It has a description telling you not to hack.]]
* NonLethalKO: Capturing can generally only be done at low HP, and when you release a unit, they leave the battlefield and don't return. The benefit from this is that you can take the enemy's equipment, in a game in which equipment doesn't have much durability and is very expensive to purchase.

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* {{Interquel}}: Takes place PowerUpLetdown: Leif's Promotion to Prince in between chapters 6 and 7 of ''Genealogy''.
* InvulnerableCivilians: Averted even more so than in ''Genealogy''. They can also be captured by enemy soldiers and taken away.
* NintendoHard: The series is normally hard, but in a game where Heal Staves can miss, ''Thracia 776'' turns it UpToEleven.
** However, it should be noted that Thracia's difficulty are not because of the lack of good characters, terrible Lord, or powerful enemies.
Thracia 776 is notable for its extremely underpowered enemies, alongside an extremely powerful cast one of player characters, so the game relies on surprise factor and some clever map design for most of its difficulty.
* NoFairCheating: Gungnir exists, but is DummiedOut. [[EasterEgg It has a description telling you not to hack.]]
* NonLethalKO: Capturing can generally
worst in the entire series, with only be done at low HP, a +1 to all his stats except Build and Movement. Considering that Leif's stats are already pretty dang anemic...
** Played with in that he also gets an invisible Elite skill (double exp) and this combined with the timing of his promotion (late in the game,
when you release a unit, they leave the battlefield and don't return. The benefit from this is that you can take the enemy's equipment, in a game in which equipment doesn't already have much durability and is very expensive to purchase.a ton of growth-boosting cursader scrolls) basically means he's quickly getting ''way'' better than those pathetic stat boosts.



* StrongFamilyResemblance: Leaf looks extremely simmilar to Quan. Hannibal mentioned this during their conversation.

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* StrongFamilyResemblance: Leaf looks extremely simmilar similar to Quan. Hannibal mentioned this during their conversation.
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** King Travant is GenreSavvy enough to ''exploit'' adult fears, and does so twice. In the first part, the whole [[spoiler: Yied Massacre]] happens when Travant attacks [[spoiler: Ethlyn, Quan and their troops]] and, after killing [[spoiler: Ethlyn]], he stages a cruel SadisticChoice to [[spoiler: Quan]]: either he [[spoiler: drops his powerful Gaebolg lance]] or [[spoiler: his three year old daughter and heiress Altena dies]]; as a result, [[spoiler: Cuan drops the Gaebolg... only for Travant to kill him anyway and take both little girl and sacred weapon to his kingdom]]. In the second part he forces a powerful general named Hannibal to fight Seliph's group via taking his adoptive son [[spoiler: (Sylvia's son Corple, or his {{expy}} Sharlow if she died childless)]] as a hostage; either Hannibal wipes out the rebels, or his child dies. [[spoiler: So you first have to find and release the kid, then send him out to talk to Hannibal so he can join Seliph's troops too. Otherwise, you lose two recruitable characters. (And if Corple's dad is either Lewyn or Claud, you will ''also'' lose a Sacred Weapon: either the [[BlowYouAway Holsety tome]] or [[BackFromTheDead the Valkyrie Staff]])]]

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** King Travant is GenreSavvy enough to ''exploit'' ''exploits'' adult fears, and does so fears twice. In the first part, the whole [[spoiler: Yied Massacre]] happens when Travant attacks [[spoiler: Ethlyn, Quan and their troops]] and, after killing [[spoiler: Ethlyn]], he stages a cruel SadisticChoice to [[spoiler: Quan]]: either he [[spoiler: drops his powerful Gaebolg lance]] or [[spoiler: his three year old daughter and heiress Altena dies]]; as a result, [[spoiler: Cuan drops the Gaebolg... only for Travant to kill him anyway and take both little girl and sacred weapon to his kingdom]]. In the second part he forces a powerful general named Hannibal to fight Seliph's group via taking his adoptive son [[spoiler: (Sylvia's son Corple, or his {{expy}} Sharlow if she died childless)]] as a hostage; either Hannibal wipes out the rebels, or his child dies. [[spoiler: So you first have to find and release the kid, then send him out to talk to Hannibal so he can join Seliph's troops too. Otherwise, you lose two recruitable characters. (And if Corple's dad is either Lewyn or Claud, you will ''also'' lose a Sacred Weapon: either the [[BlowYouAway Holsety tome]] or [[BackFromTheDead the Valkyrie Staff]])]]
12th Jul '16 11:25:49 PM rmctagg09
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* DragonsAreDivine: The beings that gave the Crusaders their power were dragons who gave their blood to counter the Lopt Empire, in particular dragons of the Divine Dragon tribe, including Naga. On the opposite side, Loptyr himself was revered as a deity by the Lopt Empire.
1st Jul '16 1:08:53 AM ChrisX
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* AdaptedOut: Although said manga also 'decreases' a possible expansion as it wrote out Holyn and Beowolf from the story.

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* AdaptedOut: Although said manga also 'decreases' a possible expansion as it wrote out Holyn and Beowolf from the story. And Hilda as well, so the readers won't even see her get tweaked for better (possibly because it's IMPOSSIBLE)
12th Jun '16 9:03:23 AM Shishkahuben
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* LordBritishPostulate: Of the "If it has health, he can be killed" variety. [[spoiler:Julius appears in chapter 10 and can actually fight you.]] If you're lucky enough to score some criticals (or get a couple good shots with Forseti) or just [[CherryTapping Cherry Tap]] [[spoiler: Julius, you ''can'' beat him]].

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* LordBritishPostulate: Of the "If it has health, he can be killed" variety. [[spoiler:Julius [[spoiler:Julius]] appears in chapter 10 and can actually fight you.]] you. If you're lucky enough to score some criticals (or get a couple good shots with Forseti) or just [[CherryTapping Cherry Tap]] [[spoiler: Julius, Julius,]] you ''can'' beat him]]. him. [[NonLethalKO He doesn't die]], though, instead opting to [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere go home in a huff.]]
1st Jun '16 11:44:08 AM QueenBEAUTY
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* GameFavoredGender: The general rule of inheritance is that sons inherit their father's traits, while daughters inherit their mother's traits. Only two of the potential mothers have major Holy Blood, and one of them (Deirdre) will always be Sigurd's lover. Generally, the sons will be the ones who inherit any major Holy Blood from a father who has it (Lewyn being the most notable example), even if the inheritor has a class that conflicts with it. For example, while Lana, a Priest, seems to be a phenomenal option for either Lewyn's Forseti blood or Claude's Blaggi, she'll never inherit it, with the major blood going to her older brother Lester instead. The two gender-swapped inheritors are Briggid (her son Faval will always inherit major Ulir blood) and Quan (whose two children are automatically set in stone anyway, as is major Naga blood inheritor Julia). On the other hand, only one of the potential mothers from the first generation has no Holy Blood (Ferry), yet she's superior in growths compared to many of the holy blood-free men, and she's the mother of a male sage who is considered to be one of the game's [[GameBreaker most overpowered units,]] particularly if [[DiscOneNuke Lewyn is his father]].
** There are three strange instances where ''both'' children for a pairing can inherit major blood: Ayra's children can inherit major Odo blood if their father is Holyn, and Sylvia's children can inherit major Blaggi blood if their father is Claude (which may or may not be incestuous; hints are dropped that Sylvia is Claude's long-lost sister but WordOfGod says she isn't. Ayra and Holyn are both nobles of the same kingdom, which is why they have the same Holy Blood, but Ayra's part of the main royal family and Holyn is of a lesser house so they're only distantly related and so this is probably less incestuous than a lot of real-life royal marriages). However, both subvert this: Sylvia's children are a daughter who is a Dancer (hence is unsuited for combat), and her son is a [[MagikarpPower Level 1 Priest]] obtained during Chapter 9. And while Ayra's children are both of the Swordfighter class, neither can actually wield the Balmung, even with major blood as Holy Weapons can't be sold thus locking the Balmung to Shanan. (Though there is a glitch that allows them to acquire it). If Briggid is paired with Lewyn or Claud, Faval will inherit his his mother's major Ulir blood while Patty inherits major Forseti or Blaggi blood, respectively. However, since Patty is a thief, she can't use the Holsety tome or the Valkyrie Staff.

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* GameFavoredGender: The general rule of inheritance is that sons inherit their father's traits, while daughters inherit their mother's traits. Only The only two of female units with Major Holy Blood in the potential mothers first generation are Dierdre and Briggid, and their children have major Holy Blood, and one of them (Deirdre) will always set traits that cannot be changed. For Dierdre, she is Sigurd's lover. canon lover and will always have Seliph [[spoiler:and Julia]], with the former having Major Baldur/Minor Naga [[spoiler:and the latter having Major Naga/Minor Fala]]). Meanwhile, Brigid's son Faval will always inherit her Major Ulir blood. Generally, the sons will be the ones who inherit any major Holy Blood from a father who has it (Lewyn and Claude being the most notable example), your two allies that have it; once again, Brigid giving her son Holy Blood is an exception), even if the inheritor has a class that conflicts with it. For example, while Lana, a Priest, seems to be a phenomenal option for either Lewyn's Forseti blood or Claude's Blaggi, she'll never inherit it, with the major blood going to her older brother Lester instead. The two gender-swapped inheritors are Briggid (her son Faval will always inherit major Ulir blood) and Quan (whose two children are automatically set in stone anyway, as is major Naga blood inheritor Julia). (an Arch Knight) instead. On the other hand, only one of the potential mothers from the first generation has no Holy Blood (Ferry), yet she's superior in growths compared to many of the holy blood-free men, and she's the mother of a male sage who is considered to be one of the game's [[GameBreaker most overpowered units,]] particularly especially if [[DiscOneNuke Lewyn is his father]].
** There are three strange two instances where ''both'' children for a pairing can inherit major blood: Ayra's children can inherit major Odo blood if their father is her distant cousin Holyn, and Sylvia's children can inherit major Blaggi blood if their father is Claude (which may or may not be incestuous; hints are dropped that Sylvia is Claude's long-lost sister but WordOfGod says she isn't. Ayra Claude, also a cousin of hers according to WordOfGod. Ulster and Holyn are both nobles Larcei cannot use the Balmung, however; despite the Balmung being available during the second half of the same kingdom, which is why they have the same Holy Blood, but Ayra's game (Major Odo holder Shanan now being a part of your army instead of an NPC), it is locked to him, as the main royal family Holy Weapons cannot be sold and Holyn is of a lesser house so they're pawned off. The only distantly related and so this way either Ulster or Larcei can use it is probably less incestuous than via a lot of real-life royal marriages). However, both subvert this: glitch. Meanwhile, Sylvia's daughter Leen is a Dancer like her, hence she gains no real benefit from Major Blaggi Blood, and while her son Corple, a Priest, is an ideal choice for using the Valkyrie Staff, he doesn't join your army until Chapter 9 and is extremely underleveled at that point.
** There are two mothers in the army (the aforementioned Briggid and Ethlyn) that have gender-swapped inheritance, but their resulting children still play this trope straight. Ethlyn is married to Quan and their
children are a always Altenna and Leif (Altenna inherits Quan's Major Noba blood in this case), and while Briggid's daughter who is a Dancer (hence is unsuited for combat), and her son is a [[MagikarpPower Level 1 Priest]] obtained during Chapter 9. And while Ayra's children are both of the Swordfighter class, neither Patty can actually wield the Balmung, even with major blood as Holy Weapons can't be sold thus locking the Balmung to Shanan. (Though there is a glitch that allows them to acquire it). If Briggid is paired with Lewyn or Claud, Faval will inherit his his mother's major Ulir blood while Patty inherits major traits from her father, Patty's a ''thief'', meaning that she's completely incapable of putting potential Major Forseti or Major Blaggi blood, respectively. However, since Patty is a thief, she can't use the Holsety tome or the Valkyrie Staff.blood to use.
19th May '16 6:05:13 AM Silverblade2
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The fourth and fifth ''VideoGame/FireEmblem'' games, which constitute the second timeline and canon of the franchise. It was the only other canon with ties to another before ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening Awakening]]'', being set in the distant past of [[VideoGame/FireEmblemAkaneia Archanea]] according to WordOfGod; in practice the only real tie between the two is the Divine Dragon God Naga. The two are quite the [[EnsembleDarkhorse fan-favorite games]] [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff among the English fanbase]] as a result of their radical but effective changes and differences, as well as their deeper and darker story.

* '''''Fire Emblem: Genealogy of the Holy War''''' (1996, SuperFamicom) is a game that spans decades and generations — after several chapters with one party, the game continues with the children of the original characters. The game is quite unusual elements for the series - its chapters are enormous, requiring the capture of multiple castles, and {{shipping}} is a ''gameplay mechanic'' upon which the ability to use several [[InfinityPlusOneSword Infinity +1 Swords]] hinge. Even so, it's consistently popular among the base and is argued by many to be the best game in the series as a result of its engrossing plot and deep character development system.

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The fourth and fifth ''VideoGame/FireEmblem'' games, which constitute the second timeline and canon of the franchise. It was the only other canon with ties to another before ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening Awakening]]'', being set in the distant past of [[VideoGame/FireEmblemAkaneia Archanea]] according to WordOfGod; in practice the only real tie between the two is the Divine Dragon God Naga. The two are quite the [[EnsembleDarkhorse fan-favorite games]] [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff among the English fanbase]] as a result of their radical but effective changes and differences, as well as their deeper and darker story.

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* '''''Fire Emblem: Genealogy of the Holy War''''' (1996, SuperFamicom) is a game that spans decades and generations — after several chapters with one party, the game continues with the children of the original characters. The game is quite unusual elements for the series - its chapters are enormous, requiring the capture of multiple castles, and {{shipping}} is a ''gameplay mechanic'' upon which the ability to use several [[InfinityPlusOneSword Infinity +1 Swords]] hinge. Even so, it's consistently popular among the base and is argued by many to be the best game in the series as a result of its engrossing plot and deep character development system.



** AdaptedOut: Although said manga also 'decreases' a possible expansion as it wrote out Holyn and Beowolf from the story.

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** * AdaptedOut: Although said manga also 'decreases' a possible expansion as it wrote out Holyn and Beowolf from the story.
19th Apr '16 4:54:00 AM Wuz
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The fourth and fifth ''FireEmblem'' games, which constitute the second timeline and canon of the franchise. It was the only other canon with ties to another before [[VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening Awakening]], being set in the distant past of [[FireEmblemAkaneia Archanea]] according to WordOfGod; in practice the only real tie between the two is the Divine Dragon God Naga. The two are quite the [[EnsembleDarkhorse fan-favorite games]] [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff among the English fanbase]] as a result of their radical but effective changes and differences, as well as their deeper and darker story.

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The fourth and fifth ''FireEmblem'' ''VideoGame/FireEmblem'' games, which constitute the second timeline and canon of the franchise. It was the only other canon with ties to another before [[VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening Awakening]], ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening Awakening]]'', being set in the distant past of [[FireEmblemAkaneia [[VideoGame/FireEmblemAkaneia Archanea]] according to WordOfGod; in practice the only real tie between the two is the Divine Dragon God Naga. The two are quite the [[EnsembleDarkhorse fan-favorite games]] [[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff among the English fanbase]] as a result of their radical but effective changes and differences, as well as their deeper and darker story.



* '''''Fire Emblem: Thracia 776''''' (1999, SuperFamicom[[note]]this was actually one of the last games released for the Super Famicom, as it became clear that a {{Nintendo 64}} ''Fire Emblem'' wasn't going to happen[[/note]]) is a {{midquel}} taking place toward the end of ''Genealogy'''s decade-long TimeSkip. It's both more like a normal ''FireEmblem'' game than its predecessor and quite different to most others - it returns to normal-sized chapters and maps, but it implements a few new gameplay mechanisms including the now-standard FogOfWar, and the completely-forgotten fatigue meter. It's also notoriously NintendoHard, even by the standards of the franchise as a whole.

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* '''''Fire Emblem: Thracia 776''''' (1999, SuperFamicom[[note]]this was actually one of the last games released for the Super Famicom, as it became clear that a {{Nintendo 64}} UsefulNotes/Nintendo64 ''Fire Emblem'' wasn't going to happen[[/note]]) is a {{midquel}} taking place toward the end of ''Genealogy'''s decade-long TimeSkip. It's both more like a normal ''FireEmblem'' ''VideoGame/FireEmblem'' game than its predecessor and quite different to most others - it returns to normal-sized chapters and maps, but it implements a few new gameplay mechanisms including the now-standard FogOfWar, and the completely-forgotten fatigue meter. It's also notoriously NintendoHard, even by the standards of the franchise as a whole.



* ArbitraryHeadcountLimit: The only games in the series to [[AvertedTrope avert this.]] You will have up to 24 characters at a time and can use every one of them. This, of course, means that the FireEmblem fanbase’s obsession with CharacterTiers is shifted to long, tortuous debates about {{Shipping}} instead.

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* ArbitraryHeadcountLimit: The only games in the series to [[AvertedTrope avert this.]] You will have up to 24 characters at a time and can use every one of them. This, of course, means that the FireEmblem ''VideoGame/FireEmblem'' fanbase’s obsession with CharacterTiers is shifted to long, tortuous debates about {{Shipping}} instead.



** ''Thracia 776'' plays with the specific 'Damsel in Distress kidnapped by thieves is saved by a member of the thieves who defected, and the two fall in love' plot from previous games (Lena and Julian being one pair from FireEmblemAkaneia, and Adean and Jamke or Dew from ''Genealogy'' being another). The cleric Safy is kidnapped by pirates early in the game, but while Shiva defends her, he never releases her. Lifis says he would accompany her to Tahra, but he actually wants to take advantage of her.

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** ''Thracia 776'' plays with the specific 'Damsel in Distress kidnapped by thieves is saved by a member of the thieves who defected, and the two fall in love' plot from previous games (Lena and Julian being one pair from FireEmblemAkaneia, VideoGame/FireEmblemAkaneia, and Adean and Jamke or Dew from ''Genealogy'' being another). The cleric Safy is kidnapped by pirates early in the game, but while Shiva defends her, he never releases her. Lifis says he would accompany her to Tahra, but he actually wants to take advantage of her.



* DeaderThanDead: Par for the course for the ‘’FireEmblem’’ series: when anyone is defeated in battle, they die forever, AllDeathsFinal. However, there's exactly ONE way to bring back a dead unit: The Valkyrie Staff. It has one use before it breaks and can only be used by someone with Major Blagi blood; i.e. Claud, and either Ced or Corple if Claud is their father. Still, ContinuingIsPainful, since the Valkyrie Rod is outrageously expensive to repair (30,000 gold per use).

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* DeaderThanDead: Par for the course for the ‘’FireEmblem’’ ''VideoGame/FireEmblem'' series: when anyone is defeated in battle, they die forever, AllDeathsFinal. However, there's exactly ONE way to bring back a dead unit: The Valkyrie Staff. It has one use before it breaks and can only be used by someone with Major Blagi blood; i.e. Claud, and either Ced or Corple if Claud is their father. Still, ContinuingIsPainful, since the Valkyrie Rod is outrageously expensive to repair (30,000 gold per use).



* DefeatMeansFriendship: Averted, as with most Fire Emblem games. Defeat usually means no-frills death when it doesn't mean "now I'm running away and you'll have to fight me again."
* DemotedToExtra: Meta-example. This is the only canon to have almost no representation whatsoever in ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBrosBrawl''. All other sets of games (Archanea-Valentia, Elibe, Magvel, Tellius) have trophies, stickers, songs and either a playable character or an AssistCharacter. The Judgral games? A PaletteSwap of Ike vaguely resembles Sigurd and one of Marth vaguely resembles Leif. '''''That's it.''''' And to add things up, Sigurd, Seliph and Leif didn't even appear in the trailers of ''Shin Megami Tensei X Fire Emblem'' while all other main characters from other series (excepting Gaiden) appear.

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* DefeatMeansFriendship: Averted, as with most Fire Emblem ''Fire Emblem'' games. Defeat usually means no-frills death when it doesn't mean "now I'm running away and you'll have to fight me again."
* DemotedToExtra: Meta-example. This is the only canon to have almost no representation whatsoever in ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBrosBrawl''. All other sets of games (Archanea-Valentia, Elibe, Magvel, Tellius) have trophies, stickers, songs and either a playable character or an AssistCharacter. The Judgral games? A PaletteSwap of Ike vaguely resembles Sigurd and one of Marth vaguely resembles Leif. '''''That's it.''''' And to add things up, Sigurd, Seliph and Leif didn't even appear in the trailers of ''Shin Megami Tensei X Fire Emblem'' ''VideoGame/ShinMegamiTenseiXFireEmblem'' while all other main characters from other series (excepting Gaiden) ''Gaiden'') appear.



* HolyHandGrenade: The first Fire Emblem game to feature Light magic as a distinct skill from other offensive magics.

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* HolyHandGrenade: The first Fire Emblem ''Fire Emblem'' game to feature Light magic as a distinct skill from other offensive magics.



*** This forgets [[BadassPrincess Princess]] [[CombatMedic Raquesis]]. The Prince/Princess/Lord class had, for the most part, usually been a rather bad one in Fire Emblem; they were extremely plot important and were required to do certain things such as take castles or convert enemy units, but were otherwise [[TheLoad The Load]] in battle, and Raquesis is no exception. She's able to use C-ranked staves and up to A-ranked swords (thanks to her Hezul blood), but her piddling native stats and stat growth, low HP, and lack of combat-related Skills makes using her to fight a losing proposition; this is not helped by the fact that, when you get her, swords are the worst weapon to be using (since most enemies are using either lances or swords, making a weapon advantage impossible) and Raquesis can't use anything else. When she classes up, she changes to the Master Knight, which is ''by far'' the best obtainable Player class and is possibly the best class in the game, its only competition being the enemy classes Queen and Emperor. Master Knights can use A-ranked ''everything'' (well, except for Light Magic, which is C-ranked, and Dark Magic, which is unobtainable anyway), gets a massive boost to ''all'' of her stats (including movement range, which goes from the "on foot" range, the second-shortest (with "heavily armored" being the shortest), to "riding a thoroughbred warhorse," the longest save "riding a ''flying'' thoroughbred warhorse" and "riding a ''dragon'',") and gains as class Skills all of the Skills necessary to equal or surpass any of the normal front-liners in hand-to-hand combat whose lack prevented Raquesis from kicking much ass as a Princess. Because of her '''fantastic''' second class, Raquesis is one of the few (if not the only) first generation characters who is not surpassed by her offspring; neither her daughter Nanna, whose statistical growth is by default better than her mother's, nor her son Delmud, who gets one-half of Raquesis' stat growth on top of whatever growth rates his father had, are pushovers, and neither child them have particularly bad classes (well, Delmud's is pretty bad, though not atrocious), yet the two of them ''combined'' aren't as useful an addition as Master Knight Raquesis. While [[WarriorPrince Prince]] [[GenerationXerox Leif]] also gets to be a Master Knight, he's still useful as a Prince due to his awesome parentage bequeathing him a decent Skill set and good stat growth.

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*** This forgets [[BadassPrincess Princess]] [[CombatMedic Raquesis]]. The Prince/Princess/Lord class had, for the most part, usually been a rather bad one in Fire Emblem; ''Fire Emblem''; they were extremely plot important and were required to do certain things such as take castles or convert enemy units, but were otherwise [[TheLoad The Load]] in battle, and Raquesis is no exception. She's able to use C-ranked staves and up to A-ranked swords (thanks to her Hezul blood), but her piddling native stats and stat growth, low HP, and lack of combat-related Skills makes using her to fight a losing proposition; this is not helped by the fact that, when you get her, swords are the worst weapon to be using (since most enemies are using either lances or swords, making a weapon advantage impossible) and Raquesis can't use anything else. When she classes up, she changes to the Master Knight, which is ''by far'' the best obtainable Player class and is possibly the best class in the game, its only competition being the enemy classes Queen and Emperor. Master Knights can use A-ranked ''everything'' (well, except for Light Magic, which is C-ranked, and Dark Magic, which is unobtainable anyway), gets a massive boost to ''all'' of her stats (including movement range, which goes from the "on foot" range, the second-shortest (with "heavily armored" being the shortest), to "riding a thoroughbred warhorse," the longest save "riding a ''flying'' thoroughbred warhorse" and "riding a ''dragon'',") and gains as class Skills all of the Skills necessary to equal or surpass any of the normal front-liners in hand-to-hand combat whose lack prevented Raquesis from kicking much ass as a Princess. Because of her '''fantastic''' second class, Raquesis is one of the few (if not the only) first generation characters who is not surpassed by her offspring; neither her daughter Nanna, whose statistical growth is by default better than her mother's, nor her son Delmud, who gets one-half of Raquesis' stat growth on top of whatever growth rates his father had, are pushovers, and neither child them have particularly bad classes (well, Delmud's is pretty bad, though not atrocious), yet the two of them ''combined'' aren't as useful an addition as Master Knight Raquesis. While [[WarriorPrince Prince]] [[GenerationXerox Leif]] also gets to be a Master Knight, he's still useful as a Prince due to his awesome parentage bequeathing him a decent Skill set and good stat growth.



* NintendoHard: It's part of Nintendo's long-running Fire Emblem series, noted for not being terrifically forgiving.

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* NintendoHard: It's part of Nintendo's long-running Fire Emblem ''Fire Emblem'' series, noted for not being terrifically forgiving.



* StormingTheCastle: While many Fire Emblem games do this, every chapter in Genealogy literally involves storming multiple castles.

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* StormingTheCastle: While many Fire Emblem ''Fire Emblem'' games do this, every chapter in Genealogy literally involves storming multiple castles.



* CrutchCharacter: Eyvel is probably the best example of this in the series. Yeah, Jagen and Marcus in FireEmblemElibe are probably considered the archetypical examples; but Eyvel is [[spoiler:removed from the player's party relatively early on, and doesn't return until very late game, and even then only if you visit a certain side chapter.]] Furthermore, the game will literally [[PlotArmor rig the RNG so that she can't die]] early in the game, in order to ensure that [[spoiler:she gets turned to stone by Veld in chapter 5.]]

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* CrutchCharacter: Eyvel is probably the best example of this in the series. Yeah, Jagen and Marcus in FireEmblemElibe VideoGame/FireEmblemElibe are probably considered the archetypical examples; but Eyvel is [[spoiler:removed from the player's party relatively early on, and doesn't return until very late game, and even then only if you visit a certain side chapter.]] Furthermore, the game will literally [[PlotArmor rig the RNG so that she can't die]] early in the game, in order to ensure that [[spoiler:she gets turned to stone by Veld in chapter 5.]]



* RagtagBunchOfMisfits: See White and Gray vs Gray and Black Morality. ''Thracia'', as the fifth installment of over a dozen games, hits between Decontruction and UnbuiltTrope. The army consists of anyone who has a loose reason to fight against the Empire, some who are persuaded by someone in the army, or ''people Leif's army kidnapped''. An early indicator is [[TokenEvilTeammate Lifis]], the first thief to join the game. Thieves in ''FireEmblem'' games before and after ''Thracia'' lean towards LovableRogue. Lifis is a pirate who pillaged villages, tried to maniplate Safy into sleeping with him and joined because he would have been executed otherwise.

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* RagtagBunchOfMisfits: See White and Gray vs Gray and Black Morality. ''Thracia'', as the fifth installment of over a dozen games, hits between Decontruction and UnbuiltTrope. The army consists of anyone who has a loose reason to fight against the Empire, some who are persuaded by someone in the army, or ''people Leif's army kidnapped''. An early indicator is [[TokenEvilTeammate Lifis]], the first thief to join the game. Thieves in ''FireEmblem'' ''VideoGame/FireEmblem'' games before and after ''Thracia'' lean towards LovableRogue. Lifis is a pirate who pillaged villages, tried to maniplate Safy into sleeping with him and joined because he would have been executed otherwise.



* VideoGameStealing: This game is notable for being the only Fire Emblem game where thieves can steal ''anything,'' even the weapon your opponent has equipped (if they have enough strength and speed). This makes them some of the most valuable units in the game, behind staff users.

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* VideoGameStealing: This game is notable for being the only Fire Emblem ''Fire Emblem'' game where thieves can steal ''anything,'' even the weapon your opponent has equipped (if they have enough strength and speed). This makes them some of the most valuable units in the game, behind staff users.
16th Apr '16 1:26:21 PM Silverblade2
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* [[ImDyingPleaseTakeMyMacGuffin I'm Dying, Please Take My Infinity +1 Sword]]: [[spoiler:How Sigurd gets the Tyrfing from his father.]]

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* [[ImDyingPleaseTakeMyMacGuffin I'm Dying, Please Take My Infinity +1 Sword]]: ImDyingPleaseTakeMyMacGuffin: [[spoiler:How Sigurd gets the Tyrfing from his father.]]



* [[KickingAssInAllHerFinery Kicking Ass In All His Finery]]: Not quite the same as the usual trope, but if the character portraits are anything to go by, the majority of the noble/royalty units are wearing finely tailored uniforms. Sigurd and Quan in particular are wearing ''cravats'', and certain manga adaptations kick this UpToEleven. [[http://images.wikia.com/fireemblem/images/b/be/Siglud_%28Super_Tactics_Book%29.png Here's]] what Sigurd wears for most of the game, for one.

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* [[KickingAssInAllHerFinery Kicking Ass In All His Finery]]: KickingAssInAllHerFinery: Not quite the same as the usual trope, but if the character portraits are anything to go by, the majority of the noble/royalty units are wearing finely tailored uniforms. Sigurd and Quan in particular are wearing ''cravats'', and certain manga adaptations kick this UpToEleven. [[http://images.wikia.com/fireemblem/images/b/be/Siglud_%28Super_Tactics_Book%29.png Here's]] what Sigurd wears for most of the game, for one.



* [[MadScientistsBeautifulDaughter Mad Dictator's Handsome Son and Mad Scientist's Beautiful Daughter]]: Lex and Tailto, the kids of Langobalt and Reptor, respectively, in the first generation. Second Generation has one of Danan's kids, Johan/Johalva (depends on which one you recruit, though the other isn't that bad either compared to others), and [[spoiler:Travant's son Areone can end up joining Seliph army because of his love for Altena]].

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* [[MadScientistsBeautifulDaughter Mad Dictator's Handsome Son and Mad Scientist's Beautiful Daughter]]: MadScientistsBeautifulDaughter: Lex and Tailto, the kids of Langobalt and Reptor, respectively, in the first generation. Second Generation has one of Danan's kids, Johan/Johalva (depends on which one you recruit, though the other isn't that bad either compared to others), and [[spoiler:Travant's son Areone can end up joining Seliph army because of his love for Altena]].



* '''RandomNumberGod''': You can ALWAYS count on her to either screw you or your enemies over ''whenever she feels like it''. [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yg5Qj4yUdpM Just look at this video.]]

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* '''RandomNumberGod''': RandomNumberGod: You can ALWAYS count on her to either screw you or your enemies over ''whenever she feels like it''. [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yg5Qj4yUdpM Just look at this video.]]



* ShadesOfConflict: While the player characters are the clear good guys here, the villains are either [[AntiVillain Anti Villains]] (Burian, Ishtar, Ishtore, Areone, [[spoiler: pre-recruitment Altena]] and several minor bosses) or [[WellIntentionedExtremist Well Intentioned Extremists]] ([[spoiler:Arvis]], Travant) who are mixed in with horrible people (Hilda, Manfroy, Loptyr-possessed!Julius).






* [[WhamEpisode Wham Chapter]]: [[spoiler:Chapter 5. After Sigurd fights his way to his home, Arvis welcomes him with open arms... and then his entire army - and he - is massacred. The '''[[ShootTheShaggyDog end]]''' of the First Generation storyline.]]

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* [[WhamEpisode Wham Chapter]]: WhamEpisode: [[spoiler:Chapter 5. After Sigurd fights his way to his home, Arvis welcomes him with open arms... and then his entire army - and he - is massacred. The '''[[ShootTheShaggyDog end]]''' of the First Generation storyline.]]



* [[ShadesOfConflict White vs Grey and Black Morality]]: While the player characters are the clear good guys here, the villains are either [[AntiVillain Anti Villains]] (Burian, Ishtar, Ishtore, Areone, [[spoiler: pre-recruitment Altena]] and several minor bosses) or [[WellIntentionedExtremist Well Intentioned Extremists]] ([[spoiler:Arvis]], Travant) who are mixed in with horrible people (Hilda, Manfroy, Loptyr-possessed!Julius).

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* [[ShadesOfConflict White vs Grey and Black Morality]]: While the player characters are the clear good guys here, the villains are either [[AntiVillain Anti Villains]] (Burian, Ishtar, Ishtore, Areone, [[spoiler: pre-recruitment Altena]] and several minor bosses) or [[WellIntentionedExtremist Well Intentioned Extremists]] ([[spoiler:Arvis]], Travant) who are mixed in with horrible people (Hilda, Manfroy, Loptyr-possessed!Julius).



* RagtagBunchOfMisfits / ArmyOfThievesAndWhores: See White and Gray vs Gray and Black Morality. ''Thracia'', as the fifth installment of over a dozen games, hits between Decontruction and UnbuiltTrope. The army consists of anyone who has a loose reason to fight against the Empire, some who are persuaded by someone in the army, or ''people Leif's army kidnapped''. An early indicator is [[TokenEvilTeammate Lifis]], the first thief to join the game. Thieves in ''FireEmblem'' games before and after ''Thracia'' lean towards LovableRogue. Lifis is a pirate who pillaged villages, tried to maniplate Safy into sleeping with him and joined because he would have been executed otherwise.

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* RagtagBunchOfMisfits / ArmyOfThievesAndWhores: RagtagBunchOfMisfits: See White and Gray vs Gray and Black Morality. ''Thracia'', as the fifth installment of over a dozen games, hits between Decontruction and UnbuiltTrope. The army consists of anyone who has a loose reason to fight against the Empire, some who are persuaded by someone in the army, or ''people Leif's army kidnapped''. An early indicator is [[TokenEvilTeammate Lifis]], the first thief to join the game. Thieves in ''FireEmblem'' games before and after ''Thracia'' lean towards LovableRogue. Lifis is a pirate who pillaged villages, tried to maniplate Safy into sleeping with him and joined because he would have been executed otherwise.otherwise.
* ShadesOfConflict:
** Main Characters - On the white end of the scale you have the heroic and sheltered Prince Leif and the remnants of the Leonster Knights. Around the grey area you have you have Lifis who wreaked havoc on Thracian civilians, Pahn who's a thief, albeit a good natured one. Not to mention there's a couple of [[PunchClockHero Punch Clock Heroes]] that join just because they're there at the right moment (Fergus, Shiva, Trewd, and Ralph). Also, there's the Bishop August who seems to have a morally ambiguous past and holds a cynical view towards the Manster nobles.
** Enemy Characters - Around the Grey end, there's a good amount of enemy bosses who fit here such as Largo (Dorias even commends Leif if he captures Largo instead of killing him), Rumay, Gomes (a bandit no less), and Reinhardt. Around or near the black area is Kempf (a man who even his fellow commanders view with disgust), Raydrick, and Veld.



* VideoGameStealing: This game is notable for being the only Fire Emblem game where thieves can steal ''anything,'' even the weapon your opponent has equipped (if they have enough strength and speed). This makes them some of the most valuable units in the game, behind staff users.
* [[ShadesOfConflict White and Grey vs Grey and Black Morality]]:
** Main Characters - On the white end of the scale you have the heroic and sheltered Prince Leif and the remnants of the Leonster Knights. Around the grey area you have you have Lifis who wreaked havoc on Thracian civilians, Pahn who's a thief, albeit a good natured one. Not to mention there's a couple of [[PunchClockHero Punch Clock Heroes]] that join just because they're there at the right moment (Fergus, Shiva, Trewd, and Ralph). Also, there's the Bishop August who seems to have a morally ambiguous past and holds a cynical view towards the Manster nobles.
** Enemy Characters - Around the Grey end, there's a good amount of enemy bosses who fit here such as Largo (Dorias even commends Leif if he captures Largo instead of killing him), Rumay, Gomes (a bandit no less), and Reinhardt. Around or near the black area is Kempf (a man who even his fellow commanders view with disgust), Raydrick, and Veld.

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* VideoGameStealing: This game is notable for being the only Fire Emblem game where thieves can steal ''anything,'' even the weapon your opponent has equipped (if they have enough strength and speed). This makes them some of the most valuable units in the game, behind staff users.
* [[ShadesOfConflict White and Grey vs Grey and Black Morality]]:
** Main Characters - On the white end of the scale you have the heroic and sheltered Prince Leif and the remnants of the Leonster Knights. Around the grey area you have you have Lifis who wreaked havoc on Thracian civilians, Pahn who's a thief, albeit a good natured one. Not to mention there's a couple of [[PunchClockHero Punch Clock Heroes]] that join just because they're there at the right moment (Fergus, Shiva, Trewd, and Ralph). Also, there's the Bishop August who seems to have a morally ambiguous past and holds a cynical view towards the Manster nobles.
** Enemy Characters - Around the Grey end, there's a good amount of enemy bosses who fit here such as Largo (Dorias even commends Leif if he captures Largo instead of killing him), Rumay, Gomes (a bandit no less), and Reinhardt. Around or near the black area is Kempf (a man who even his fellow commanders view with disgust), Raydrick, and Veld.
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* DeconstructorFleet: Leif's story is a Decontruction of Marth's story from start to finish. Both lords were driven from their homeland and retook it, but Leif runs into a more CrapsackWorld. Leif had to run from place to place since he was two, and with only one knight to protect him consistently. Priestess captured by pirates? The thief who looks like he's letting her out just wants to take advantage of her. Leif's first time in a castle is breaking out of the dungeon. Lots of those who join him have unsavoury motives. Most of Leif's journey seems less like a liberation army and more like a refugee group, given how much of their movements are based on being chased. [[spoiler: Worst of all, while Leif succeeds in liberating Leonster, he and his are are besieged by the very empire he retook it from until Seliph bails him out.]] Ultimately reconstructed once Leif and his army succeed in their goals in the very end.
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