History VideoGame / FireEmblemElibe

21st Sep '16 10:43:41 PM sheika
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* AddedAlliterativeAppeal: '''El'''iwood and his parents, '''El'''bert and '''El'''eanora.
6th Sep '16 5:26:12 PM spiritsunami
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** Of all the characters in the game. Karla has a particularly obscure recruitment method. You need to be on Hector's Story, you need to bring Bartre to "Battle Preparations" (the optional shopping trip before the final battle), and ''he needs to be promoted and at least Lv 5''. Do all this and she appears on the map, and you have to have them fight, with ''both'' surviving a round of combat (which parctically requires Bartre to hold the Iron Rune since Karla is a [[CriticalHitClass Swordmaster]]). This makes sense if you've played ''Binding Blade'', where Bartre joined as a Lv 5 Warrior and had a daughter with Karla, but since that game was NoExportForYou, Western fans were left with no hints to this recruitment.

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** Of all the characters in the game. Karla has a particularly obscure recruitment method. You need to be on Hector's Story, you need to bring Bartre to "Battle Preparations" (the optional shopping trip before the final battle), and ''he needs to be promoted and at least Lv 5''. Do all this and she appears on the map, and you have to have them fight, with ''both'' surviving a round of combat (which parctically requires Bartre to hold the Iron Rune since Karla is a [[CriticalHitClass Swordmaster]]). This makes sense if you've played ''Binding Blade'', where Bartre joined as a Lv 5 Warrior (albeit only at level 2) and had a daughter with Karla, but since that game was NoExportForYou, Western fans were left with no hints to this recruitment.



* MotiveDecay: The Black Fang were always a group of assassins, but apparently they started off as a noble one that targeted the unjust. This slowly slipped away when Nergal had Sonia infiltrate by marrying their leader, Branden, and so Nergal had his own group of psychopaths and fanatic followers added...

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* MotiveDecay: The Black Fang were always a group of assassins, but apparently they started off as a noble one that targeted the unjust. This slowly slipped away when Nergal had Sonia infiltrate by marrying their leader, Branden, Brendan, and so Nergal had his own group of psychopaths and fanatic followers added...



** The playable characters themselves play with, subvert, or even avert the usual personalities and traits that come with their archetypes, which can be found in better detail on the character pages. Some prominent examples are the Cleric (Serra) and the Troubadour (Priscilla), as well as the [[ThoseTwoGuys red and green cavaliers]] swapping personalities, a very gentle-natured axe fighter (Dorcas), and the first thief you get (Matthew) being a spy working for the nobility as opposed to just another ruffian.

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** The playable characters themselves play with, subvert, or even avert the usual personalities and traits that come with their archetypes, which can be found in better detail on the character pages. Some prominent examples are the Cleric (Serra) and the Troubadour (Priscilla), as well as the [[ThoseTwoGuys red and green cavaliers]] swapping personalities, personalities/stat specialties, a very gentle-natured axe fighter (Dorcas), and the first thief you get (Matthew) being a spy working for the nobility as opposed to just another ruffian.



* TooAwesomeToUse: You'll come across several awesome weapons of which there is only one (perhaps 2) obtainable copies and probably be too reluctant to actually use them, save for the final chapter. The best example of this are the 3 "Brave Weapons". They are a powerful sword, lance, and axe, respectively, and only one obtainable copy of each can be found in the game. They guarantee a doubling of your overall strikes (meaning two attacks if too heavy or slow, and four if said character can double-attack normally)... and thus use up their durability ''fast''. They can potentially break in a grand total of ''5 uses''.

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* TooAwesomeToUse: You'll come across several awesome weapons of which there is only one (perhaps 2) obtainable copies and probably be too reluctant to actually use them, save for the final chapter. The best example of this are the 3 4 "Brave Weapons". They are a powerful sword, lance, and lance, axe, and bow, respectively, and only one obtainable copy of each can be found in the game. They guarantee a doubling of your overall strikes (meaning two attacks if too heavy or slow, and four if said character can double-attack normally)... and thus use up their durability ''fast''. They can potentially break in a grand total of ''5 uses''.



* WeatherOfWar

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* WeatherOfWarWeatherOfWar: In addition to the usual FogOfWar, certain chapters have rain show up from time to time, slowing down all units.
5th Aug '16 12:34:37 AM GastonRabbit
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* EarlyInstallmentWeirdness: Due to ''Blazing Sword'' being a prequel, there are several instances where characters are ignorant of elements that were also key plot points twenty years ago, although it's not difficult to rationalize things away given the time the heroes spend undercover, Canas' determination to keep the events ''out'' of the history books, and the fact that Eliwood would probably not want to talk about the painful events his InfinityPlusOneSword caused.

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* EarlyInstallmentWeirdness: EarlyInstallmentWeirdness:
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Due to ''Blazing Sword'' being a prequel, there are several instances where characters are ignorant of elements that were also key plot points twenty years ago, although it's not difficult to rationalize things away given the time the heroes spend undercover, Canas' determination to keep the events ''out'' of the history books, and the fact that Eliwood would probably not want to talk about the painful events his InfinityPlusOneSword caused.caused.
** In this game, there are no unpromoted classes capable of using light magic, something that isn't the case with the other types of magic. Later Game Boy Advance installments feature the monk class, which is an unpromoted class that uses light magic, essentially giving light magic an equivalent to mages and shamans.



* LeeroyJenkins: Certain NPC's (recruitable or not) will run in and attack the first enemy they see no matter how suicidal it is. Watch as Erk the squishy mage picks a fight with a decent-sized army if left to his own devices.

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* LeeroyJenkins: Certain NPC's [=NPCs=] (recruitable or not) will run in and attack the first enemy they see no matter how suicidal it is. Watch as Erk the squishy mage picks a fight with a decent-sized army if left to his own devices.



* TheChurch: The Church of Saint Elimine. Most monks, clerics, and bishops are members of it. Not clear what they actually teach, though, other than it was founded by a [[LightEmUp light magic using]] member of the legendary heroes who drove away the dragons in the ancient war. (said founder was vaguely referenced as later having AscendedToAHigherPlaneOfExistence.)

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* TheChurch: The Church of Saint Elimine. Most monks, clerics, and bishops are members of it. Not clear what they actually teach, though, other than it was founded by a [[LightEmUp light magic using]] magic-using]] member of the legendary heroes who drove away the dragons in the ancient war. (said founder was vaguely referenced as later having AscendedToAHigherPlaneOfExistence.)
4th Aug '16 2:31:37 PM Codefreak5
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* DoomedByCanon: [[spoiler:Nino, Jaffar, and possibly Erk are killed by bounty hunters or are in hiding. Roy's mother is implied to have died giving birth to Roy, meaning this can either be Fiora, Ninian, or Lyndis. Whoever Hector marries is never mentioned in Binding Blade, and the possibilities include Florina, Farina, and (again) Lyn. Karla dies of illness some time after giving birth to Fir. Canas dies trying to stop a blizzard, and his son is raised by his grandmother -- both appear in ''The Binding Blade''. Not to mention, the Black Fang. Hector dies onscreen in ''The Binding Blade'', and he's actually told that he'll die a violent death for taking Armands; furthermore, outside sources say Oswin dies in the same battle, protecting Hector. Athos and Bramminond don't make it to ''The Binding Blade''. Rath's grandfather and daughter are both in 'The Binding Blade'', but neither of them mentions him, implying the worst. Nino is on the run, regardless if she's married or not in her endings, and her sons mention that the priest who ran the orphanage they were in was killed -- in Lucius' ending, he starts an orphanage, so it's possible that he died as well. Given her loyalty to Bern and Zephiel, and the fact that she never appears in ''The Binding Blade'', it's not looking great for Vaida, and possibly Heath as well.]] This has a lesser impact on western players who never got ''The Binding Blade''

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* DoomedByCanon: [[spoiler:Nino, Jaffar, and possibly Erk are killed by bounty hunters or are in hiding. Roy's mother is implied to have died giving birth to Roy, meaning this can either be Fiora, Ninian, or Lyndis. Whoever Hector marries is never mentioned in Binding Blade, and the possibilities include Florina, Farina, and (again) Lyn. Karla dies of illness some time after giving birth to Fir. Canas dies trying to stop a blizzard, and his son is raised by his grandmother -- both appear in ''The Binding Blade''. Not to mention, the Black Fang. Hector dies onscreen in ''The Binding Blade'', and he's actually told that he'll die a violent death for taking Armands; furthermore, outside sources say Oswin dies in the same battle, protecting Hector. Athos and Bramminond don't make it to ''The Binding Blade''. Rath's grandfather and daughter are both in 'The ''The Binding Blade'', but neither of them mentions him, implying the worst. Nino is on the run, regardless if she's married or not in her endings, and her sons mention that the priest who ran the orphanage they were in was killed -- in Lucius' ending, he starts an orphanage, so it's possible that he died as well. Given her loyalty to Bern and Zephiel, and the fact that she never appears in ''The Binding Blade'', it's not looking great for Vaida, and possibly Heath as well.]] This has a lesser impact on western players who never got ''The Binding Blade''
18th Jul '16 6:33:15 AM Morgenthaler
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* DangerouslyGenreSavvy: The first thing Zephiel does when he reaches Lycia is lead a direct assault on Lycia's main army, going ''personally'' with two of his best generals to make sure Hector doesn't make it out alive. The result being that Lycia is very nearly defeated by Bern days after the two go to war.



* DangerouslyGenreSavvy: ArtificialStupidity aside, the AI of these games became ''highly'' pronounced as simply not caring about whether or not they won...so much as they kill ''one'' of your units and make you RageQuit and restart the chapter.
13th Jul '16 12:06:17 PM QueenBEAUTY
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* LongLostRelative: [[spoiler:It's all but stated that Nergal is Ninian and Nils' father, with the biggest hint being his extended death quote, which you can only get by doing an extremely obscure sidequest in Hector's Hard mode. In it, he mentions the children's mother Aenir. Other relatives are Dart, who is Rebecca's long-lost brother Dan, Priscilla's brother Raymond is Raven, and it's strongly hinted that Canas is Nino's uncle]]. The main plot of Lyn's story has her discovering an entire long-lost ''side of her family'', as she was unaware of her Lycian heritage up until Chapter 2. What's more, by the end of her story, only she and her grandfather are the remaining members of House Caelin.

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* LongLostRelative: [[spoiler:It's all but stated that Nergal is Ninian and Nils' father, with the biggest hint being his extended death quote, which you can only get by doing an extremely obscure sidequest in Hector's Hard mode. In it, he mentions the children's mother Aenir. Other relatives are Dart, who is Rebecca's long-lost brother Dan, Priscilla's brother Raymond is Raven, and it's strongly hinted that Canas is Nino's uncle]]. The main plot of Lyn's story has her discovering an entire long-lost ''side of her family'', as she was unaware of her Lycian heritage up until Chapter 2. What's more, by the end of her story, only she met Sain and Kent. To compound this, she and her elderly grandfather are the remaining only members of House Caelin.Caelin left when her story ends, [[spoiler:and then ''he'' passes away after the main story and regardless of Lyn's fate (which can involve either staying in Lycia via marriage or returning to the Sacae Plains), she requests Caelin be folded into Ostia.]]
4th Jul '16 4:31:56 AM SpaceDrake
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* ''Fire Emblem: Blazing Sword'' [[note]]Released as just ''Fire Emblem'' in the west, but near-universally called by its Japanese name -- ''Rekka no Ken'', meaning "Sword of Flame" -- or by its number for the sake of differentiation. ''Blazing Sword'' is a fan translation; "Sword of Flame" was translated as Blazing ''Blade'' within the game itself.[[/note]] (Game Boy Advance, 2003) was the franchise's international debut, with only a single game released since then lacking an official localization. A {{prequel}} to ''The Binding Blade'', it stars Roy's father, Eliwood, as he investigates the disappearance of his own father with his friends Hector and Lyn, leading them to clash with a brotherhood of assassins called the Black Fang. This game remains a favorite of many western fans because, in addition to being a [[FirstInstallmentWins first installment]] for a great many fans, it features one of the longer quests of the Western released games, features a large amount of replay value, and boasts a story that's rather unique in relation to the rest of the franchise.

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* ''Fire Emblem: Blazing Sword'' [[note]]Released as just ''Fire Emblem'' in the west, but near-universally called by its Japanese name -- ''Rekka no Ken'', meaning "Sword of Flame" -- or by its number for the sake of differentiation. ''Blazing Sword'' is a fan translation; "Sword of Flame" was translated as Blazing ''Blade'' within the game itself.[[/note]] (Game Boy Advance, 2003) was the franchise's international debut, with only a single game released since then lacking an official localization. A {{prequel}} to ''The Binding Blade'', it stars Roy's father, Eliwood, as he investigates the disappearance of his own father with his friends Hector and Lyn, leading them to clash with a brotherhood of assassins called the Black Fang. This game remains a favorite of many western fans because, in addition to being a [[FirstInstallmentWins first installment]] installment in English]] and thus for a great many fans, it features one of the longer quests of the Western released games, features a large amount of replay value, and boasts a story that's rather unique in relation to the rest of the franchise.
4th Jul '16 4:31:25 AM SpaceDrake
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* ''Fire Emblem: Blazing Sword'' [[note]]Released as just ''Fire Emblem'' in the west, but near-universally called by its Japanese name -- ''Rekka no Ken'', meaning "Sword of Flame" -- or by its number for the sake of differentiation. ''Blazing Sword'' is a fan translation; "Sword of Flame" was translated as Blazing ''Blade'' within the game itself.[[/note]] (Game Boy Advance, 2003) was the franchise's international debut, with only a single game released since then lacking an official localization. A {{prequel}} to ''The Binding Blade'', it stars Roy's father, Eliwood, as he investigates the disappearance of his own father with his friends Hector and Lyn, leading them to clash with a brotherhood of assassins called the Black Fang. This game remains a favorite of many western fans because it features one of the longer quests of the Western released games, features a large amount of replay value, and boasts a story that's rather unique in relation to the rest of the franchise.

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* ''Fire Emblem: Blazing Sword'' [[note]]Released as just ''Fire Emblem'' in the west, but near-universally called by its Japanese name -- ''Rekka no Ken'', meaning "Sword of Flame" -- or by its number for the sake of differentiation. ''Blazing Sword'' is a fan translation; "Sword of Flame" was translated as Blazing ''Blade'' within the game itself.[[/note]] (Game Boy Advance, 2003) was the franchise's international debut, with only a single game released since then lacking an official localization. A {{prequel}} to ''The Binding Blade'', it stars Roy's father, Eliwood, as he investigates the disappearance of his own father with his friends Hector and Lyn, leading them to clash with a brotherhood of assassins called the Black Fang. This game remains a favorite of many western fans because because, in addition to being a [[FirstInstallmentWins first installment]] for a great many fans, it features one of the longer quests of the Western released games, features a large amount of replay value, and boasts a story that's rather unique in relation to the rest of the franchise.
4th Jul '16 4:28:57 AM SpaceDrake
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** Sacae: A far-eastern nation with a notable tradition of horseback riding and archery, and a traditional religion that worships the sky and earth. Clearly meant to be based upon Mongolia.

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** Sacae: A far-eastern nation with a notable tradition of horseback riding and archery, and a traditional religion that worships the sky and earth. Clearly meant to be based upon Mongolia.Mongolia, with a dash of Japan (Myrmidons clearly use katanas and many of them, ''especially'' Karel, are heavy with "wandering samurai" tropes).
3rd Jul '16 1:20:34 PM SoapheadChurch
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** Etruia: Clearly meant to be based on Medieval Rome: it is the seat of the Church of the game's resident CrystalDragonJesus and a nation with a high level of civilization. Notably, the real life civilization of Etruria was a state in what is now Central Italy which was conquered by Rome.

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** Etruia: Clearly meant to be based Based on Medieval Rome: it is the seat of the Church of the game's resident CrystalDragonJesus and a nation with a high level of civilization. Notably, the real life civilization of Etruria was a state in what is now Central Italy which was conquered by Rome.
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