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13th May '16 9:11:56 AM Silverblade2
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* YouMonster: Marth calls Gharneff a monster in chapter 23 [[spoiler: when the latter congratulates him for killing Camus and Michalis]].
11th May '16 1:14:17 PM Silverblade2
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* LoveTriangle: [[spoiler:Type 4 Love triangle in Book 1 with Hardin as A, Nyna as B, and Camus as C. In book 2, it becomes a type 5 as Camus now loves Teeta.]]

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* %%* LoveTriangle: [[spoiler:Type 4 Love triangle in Book 1 with Hardin as A, Nyna as B, and Camus as C. In book 2, it becomes a type 5 as Camus now loves Teeta.]]
9th May '16 8:42:22 PM nngnna
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* InconsistentDub: As with ''Advance Wars: Days of Ruin'', both the American and European releases of ''Shadow Dragon'' had several disagreements with names. For example, Caeda in the West was Shiida in Europe, Aurelis was Orleans, Macedon was Medon, and Dolhr was Doluna.

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* InconsistentDub: As with ''Advance Wars: Days of Ruin'', both the American and European releases of ''Shadow Dragon'' had several disagreements with names. For example, Caeda in the West US was Shiida in Europe, Aurelis was Orleans, Macedon was Medon, and Dolhr was Doluna.
7th May '16 4:53:23 AM GastonRabbit
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** Averted with Wrys, who isn't much of a looker but is a good man who provides healing services to Marth's army.

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** Averted with Wrys, who isn't much of a looker but is a good man who provides healing services to for Marth's army.
7th May '16 4:52:50 AM GastonRabbit
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* BeautyEqualsGoodness: Used in the remake of ''Mystery of the Emblem''. [[spoiler:The {{Bishonen}} Michalis not only gets to [[DisneyDeath come back from death twice]], but also lose all his scars, become a king, then leave the continent and become the king of another continent! And this is after he killed his own father, was a BadBoss to his soldiers, and an overall tyrant. The very plain Hardin still dies unhappily due to being a tyrant despite a lifetime of good. The worst part was that Hardin was possessed and had more of a connection to Marth, while Michalis did his evil deeds out of [[AmbitionIsEvil ambition]]]]. Seems you get a third chance if youíre really hot, but if youíre not attractive you donít even get a second. The same game also has Ellerean (a blonde LongHairedPrettyBoy), though there are no second chances for [[spoiler:Kleine and Eremiya]], even for their beauty.

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* BeautyEqualsGoodness: BeautyEqualsGoodness:
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Used in the remake of ''Mystery of the Emblem''. [[spoiler:The {{Bishonen}} Michalis not only gets to [[DisneyDeath come back from death twice]], but also lose all his scars, become a king, then leave the continent and become the king of another continent! And this is after he killed his own father, was a BadBoss to his soldiers, and an overall tyrant. The very plain Hardin still dies unhappily due to being a tyrant despite a lifetime of good. The worst part was that Hardin was possessed and had more of a connection to Marth, while Michalis did his evil deeds out of [[AmbitionIsEvil ambition]]]]. Seems you get a third chance if youíre really hot, but if youíre not attractive you donít even get a second. The same game also has Ellerean (a blonde LongHairedPrettyBoy), though there are no second chances for [[spoiler:Kleine and Eremiya]], even for their beauty.beauty.
** Averted with Wrys, who isn't much of a looker but is a good man who provides healing services to Marth's army.
5th May '16 7:43:17 PM GastonRabbit
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* TranslationTrainWreck: The ''Mystery of the Emblem'' fan translation is... unfortunate, with an overly literal interpretation of the dialogue that can be pretty stifling to read at times. Luckily, ''New Mystery'''s fan translation brings some redemption.

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* TranslationTrainWreck: The ''Mystery of the Emblem'' fan translation is... unfortunate, with an overly literal interpretation of the dialogue that can be pretty stifling to read at times. Luckily, ''New Mystery'''s fan translation brings some redemption.redemption and a new translation is in progress for the original version.
1st May '16 1:16:01 PM GastonRabbit
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** In the chapter before Hardin is recruited in both ''Dark Dragon'' and ''Shadow Dragon'', a villager gives you a Silver Sword that supposedly belongs to him and asks you to return it to him. With the introduction of weapon ranks, however, Hardin is initially unable to use the Silver Sword in ''Shadow Dragon''.
** The complete lack of Sages and the Myrmidon line among enemies in [=FE11=] was because the original game had all myrmidons in [=FE11=] be mercenaries, and Mages and Curates/Clerics promoted into Bishops. The Gaiden chapters (and [=FE12=]) fix this.

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** In the chapter before Hardin is recruited in both ''Dark Dragon'' the first game and ''Shadow Dragon'', a villager gives you a Silver Sword that supposedly belongs to him and asks you to return it to him. With the introduction of weapon ranks, however, Hardin is initially unable to use the Silver Sword in ''Shadow Dragon''.
** The complete lack of Sages and the Myrmidon line among enemies in [=FE11=] ''Shadow Dragon'' was because the original game had all myrmidons in [=FE11=] that game be mercenaries, and Mages and Curates/Clerics promoted into Bishops. The Gaiden chapters (and [=FE12=]) and ''New Mystery of the Emblem'' fix this.



* ArtEvolution: ''Mystery of the Emblem'' was the first Fire Emblem to have an actual artist in the development team. To give an example, look at Astram's portrait between the various games: [[http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v139/VincentASM/Site/FE1/Astria.png FE1]], [[http://serenesforest.net/fe3/face/astria.gif FE3]], [[http://serenesforest.net/fe11/face/astria.png FE11]], [[http://serenesforest.net/fe12/face/ASTRIA.PNG FE12]].

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* ArtEvolution: ''Mystery of the Emblem'' was the first Fire Emblem to have an actual artist in the development team. To give an example, look at Astram's portrait between the various games: [[http://img.''[[http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v139/VincentASM/Site/FE1/Astria.png FE1]], [[http://serenesforest.Shadow Dragon and the Blade of Light]]'', ''[[http://serenesforest.net/fe3/face/astria.gif FE3]], [[http://serenesforest.Mystery of the Emblem]]'', ''[[http://serenesforest.net/fe11/face/astria.png FE11]], [[http://serenesforest.Shadow Dragon]]'', ''[[http://serenesforest.net/fe12/face/ASTRIA.PNG FE12]].New Mystery of the Emblem]]''.



* TheAnimeOfTheGame: A two-episode OVA based on the first game was released in 1996, and was licensed by Creator/ADVFilms in 1997. WordOfGod put out that it was supposed to last longer, but did not due to a lack of funds. Marth was voiced by Creator/HikaruMidorikawa, who went on to voice him in ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros''; his dub voice was Creator/SpikeSpencer, who as of yet hasn't reprised the role, even in Marth's ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros'' appearances.
** As an additional piece of trivia, it was the second anime adaptation of a Nintendo title (the first one being SuperMarioBros),a few years before the Franchise/{{Pokemon}} animated adaptation appeared in Japan.

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* TheAnimeOfTheGame: A two-episode OVA based on the first game was released in 1996, and was licensed by Creator/ADVFilms in 1997. WordOfGod put out that it was supposed to last longer, but did not due to a lack of funds. Marth was voiced by Creator/HikaruMidorikawa, who went on to voice him in ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros''; his dub voice was Creator/SpikeSpencer, who as of yet hasn't reprised the role, even in Marth's ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros'' appearances.
** As an additional piece of trivia, it
appearances. The OVA was also the second anime adaptation of a Nintendo title (the first one being SuperMarioBros),a based on ''Franchise/SuperMarioBros''), a few years before the Franchise/{{Pokemon}} ''Franchise/{{Pokemon}}'' animated adaptation appeared in Japan.



* BeautyEqualsGoodness: Used in the remake of ''Mystery of the Emblem''. [[spoiler:The {{Bishonen}} Michalis not only gets to [[DisneyDeath come back from death twice]], but also lose all his scars, become a king, then leave the continent and become the king of another continent! And this is after he killed his own father, was a BadBoss to his soldiers, and an overall tyrant. The very plain Hardin still dies unhappily due to being a tyrant despite a lifetime of good. The worst part was that Hardin was possessed and had more of a connection to Marth, while Michalis did his evil deeds out of [[AmbitionIsEvil ambition]]]]. Seems you get a third chance if youíre really hot, but if youíre not attractive you donít even get a second.
** Ditto for Ellerean as well (bonus points for being a blonde LongHairedPrettyBoy).
** Still, there are no second chances for [[spoiler:Kleine and Eremiya]], not even for their beauty.

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* BeautyEqualsGoodness: Used in the remake of ''Mystery of the Emblem''. [[spoiler:The {{Bishonen}} Michalis not only gets to [[DisneyDeath come back from death twice]], but also lose all his scars, become a king, then leave the continent and become the king of another continent! And this is after he killed his own father, was a BadBoss to his soldiers, and an overall tyrant. The very plain Hardin still dies unhappily due to being a tyrant despite a lifetime of good. The worst part was that Hardin was possessed and had more of a connection to Marth, while Michalis did his evil deeds out of [[AmbitionIsEvil ambition]]]]. Seems you get a third chance if youíre really hot, but if youíre not attractive you donít even get a second.
** Ditto for
second. The same game also has Ellerean as well (bonus points for being a (a blonde LongHairedPrettyBoy).
** Still,
LongHairedPrettyBoy), though there are no second chances for [[spoiler:Kleine and Eremiya]], not even for their beauty.



** Knorda in particular is a Crapsack Town. The whole place was taken over by a gang of thugs some time ago, [[spoiler:Katarina]] was born there, and was constantly beaten and abused. Linde somehow fell into their hands during the War of Shadows, and who knows what world have happened to her if Marth hadn't got there when he did. And then we learn in ''Mystery'' that Ogma and Samto were forced to compete in brutal gladiatorial games there since they were kids. What's utterly baffling about this is the town is literally ''right outside Archanea's palace'', and yet no one thinks to do anything about it until Marth's arrival!
*** There's a reason for this: It's stated at the end of the ''BS Fire Emblem'' "Fall" by Camus that the King wasn't a very good ruler and was too concerned with living in luxury than ruling the land correctly. Between that and having some other general (Camus got imprisoned for a while) govern the area, it's only natural that things didn't get better.

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** Knorda in particular is a Crapsack Town. The whole place was taken over by a gang of thugs some time ago, [[spoiler:Katarina]] was born there, and was constantly beaten and abused. Linde somehow fell into their hands during the War of Shadows, and who knows what world have happened to her if Marth hadn't got there when he did. And then we learn in ''Mystery'' that Ogma and Samto were forced to compete in brutal gladiatorial games there since they were kids. What's utterly baffling about this is the town is literally ''right outside Archanea's palace'', and yet no one thinks to do anything about it until Marth's arrival!
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arrival! There's a reason for this: It's stated at the end of the ''BS Fire Emblem'' "Fall" by Camus that the King wasn't a very good ruler and was too concerned with living in luxury than ruling the land correctly. Between that and having some other general (Camus got imprisoned for a while) govern the area, it's only natural that things didn't get better.



* DarkerAndEdgier: [=FE3=] Book 2 / ''New Mystery'' when compared to [=FE1=] / [=FE3=] Book 1 / ''Shadow Dragon''. Not as much as the [[VideoGame/FireEmblemJugdral Jugdral Series]], but things have gotten much worse for Archanea by that point.

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* DarkerAndEdgier: [=FE3=] ''Mystery of the Emblem'' Book 2 / ''New Mystery'' Mystery of the Emblem'' when compared to [=FE1=] ''Shadow Dragon and the Blade of Light'' / [=FE3=] ''Mystery of the Emblem'' Book 1 / ''Shadow Dragon''. Not as much as the [[VideoGame/FireEmblemJugdral Jugdral Series]], series]], but things have gotten much worse for Archanea by that point.



* DiscontinuityNod: In the prologue of ''New Mystery'', Marth has a long conversation with My Unit about how deeply the deaths of comrades during the last war affect him, and how while some people believe in the importance of "sacrificing the few to save the many", Marth would have none of that, and aims to save everyone under his command. It's likely this is a deliberate jab at ''Shadow Dragon's'' controversial sidequest requirements.
** In addition, while the prequel rewarded you with sidequests for killing off your characters, this game [[WhatTheHellHero openly mocks you]] for the same behavior.

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* DiscontinuityNod: In the prologue of ''New Mystery'', Marth has a long conversation with My Unit about how deeply the deaths of comrades during the last war affect him, and how while some people believe in the importance of "sacrificing the few to save the many", Marth would have none of that, and aims to save everyone under his command. It's likely this is a deliberate jab at ''Shadow Dragon's'' controversial sidequest requirements.
** In addition, while the prequel
requirements. While its predecessor rewarded you with sidequests for killing off your characters, this game [[WhatTheHellHero openly mocks you]] for the same behavior.



* EquipmentSpoiler: Subverted in ''Mystery of the Emblem'''s Book 2: You can get a few axes, but never get an axe user; you're supposed to sell them for cash. Averted in the remake, which features playable axe users and replaces those bonus axes with simply getting bonus money. Note that this is outright lampshaded in the script.

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* EquipmentSpoiler: Subverted in ''Mystery of the Emblem'''s Book 2: You can get a few axes, but never get an axe user; you're supposed to sell them for cash. Averted in the remake, which features playable axe users and replaces those bonus axes with simply getting bonus money. Note that this This is outright lampshaded in the script.



* GameplayAndStoryIntegration: A mild but ''very'' clever form of it. The sacrifice in the prologue of [=FE11=] can't be brought back using the one use "bring unit back from the dead" staff (even though characters that die by other means in the prologue can). Frey (who doesn't appear when the prologue is skipped and is seen as the canon sacrifice) [[http://serenesforest.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=21343&st=0 appears in the tutorial]] in ''New Mystery of the Emblem''. [[spoiler:He reveals through conversations with the player character that he ''was'' the canonical sacrifice, but upon being discovered as a fake, was beaten up and left for dead. Frey was then rescued by some citizens, and survived with some memory loss and a terrible scar. So thus, you could not revive him with the Aum staff... because Frey never actually ''died'' to begin with!]]
* GuideDangIt: Recruitment requirements (a good number of people actually try to recruit Camus, or even Michalis), as well as gaiden chapter requirements in the [=FE3=] remake.

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* GameplayAndStoryIntegration: A mild but ''very'' clever form of it. The sacrifice in the prologue of [=FE11=] ''Shadow Dragon'' can't be brought back using the one use "bring unit back from the dead" staff (even though characters that die by other means in the prologue can). Frey (who doesn't appear when the prologue is skipped and is seen as the canon sacrifice) [[http://serenesforest.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=21343&st=0 appears in the tutorial]] in ''New Mystery of the Emblem''. [[spoiler:He reveals through conversations with the player character that he ''was'' the canonical sacrifice, but upon being discovered as a fake, was beaten up and left for dead. Frey was then rescued by some citizens, and survived with some memory loss and a terrible scar. So thus, you could not revive him with the Aum staff... because Frey never actually ''died'' to begin with!]]
* GuideDangIt: Recruitment requirements (a good number of people actually try to recruit Camus, or even Michalis), as well as gaiden chapter requirements in ''New Mystery of the [=FE3=] remake.Emblem''.



* InventoryManagementPuzzle: Especially infuriating in ''Dark Dragon''. You can only give items to another unit, and once you've given an item, the unit's turn ends.
* JokeItem: [=FE3=] loves this -- they give you silver axes in a game where ''absolutely no one'' is able to use them.[[note]][[VendorTrash You were meant to sell them for funds]]; since the remake actually has axe users, it replaces them with bags of cash.[[/note]] The remake gives you a bouquet of odds and ends, not the least of which is ''a bloody frying pan''! However, said joke items in the remake can actually be quite useful. Forging cost depends on the value of the item, so a nearly worthless 1-might frying pan can be forged into an 11-might axe with a much higher hit rate than a steel axe, for barely any gold compared to what forging normally costs. (It still looks like a frying pan in your inventory, though.)

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* InventoryManagementPuzzle: Especially infuriating in ''Dark Dragon''.''Shadow Dragon and the Blade of Light''. You can only give items to another unit, and once you've given an item, the unit's turn ends.
* JokeItem: [=FE3=] loves this -- they give ''Mystery of the Emblem'' gives you silver axes in a game where ''absolutely no one'' is able to use them.[[note]][[VendorTrash You were meant to sell them for funds]]; since the remake actually has axe users, it replaces them with bags of cash.[[/note]] The remake gives you a bouquet of odds and ends, not the least of which is ''a bloody frying pan''! However, said joke items in the remake can actually be quite useful. Forging cost depends on the value of the item, so a nearly worthless 1-might frying pan can be forged into an 11-might axe with a much higher hit rate than a steel axe, for barely any gold compared to what forging normally costs. (It still looks like a frying pan in your inventory, though.)



* LeftForDead: [[spoiler:The ultimate fate of the decoy (canonically Frey) from [=FE11's=] Prologue, according to [=FE12=].]]
* LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters: ''New Mystery'' brings back characters from ''Shadow Dragon'' who never appeared in the original [=FE3=] (including the ''SD''-exclusive characters) and even adds the characters who only appeared in the BSFE episodes. [[http://serenesforest.net/fe12/recruit.html Player controlled units in the main game]] alone add up to 77, the largest playable cast of the entire series (just edging out ''Radiant Dawn'' at 73).
* LostForever: The Falchion in [=FE1=] and 3. [[EleventhHourSuperpower You know, the sword that is pretty much the only way to win the game]]? ''Shadow Dragon'' fixes that by giving you a weaker version if you fail to get the actual Falchion and let Tiki (the other primary way to beat the final boss) die, though in the remake the Falchion isn't necessary to beat the boss. If, for example, Marth was barely used throughout the game and thus still of a low level, it's still possible to complete the final chapter with said low-level Marth sitting on a fort to prevent reinforcements spawning while others take down the boss. Even in the original, it was possible to [[DeathOfAThousandCuts cut]] [[CherryTapping him to death]].

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* LeftForDead: [[spoiler:The ultimate fate of the decoy (canonically Frey) from [=FE11's=] ''Shadow Dragon'' Prologue, according to [=FE12=].''New Mystery of the Emblem''.]]
* LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters: ''New Mystery'' brings back characters from ''Shadow Dragon'' who never appeared in the original [=FE3=] ''Mystery of the Emblem'' (including the ''SD''-exclusive characters) and even adds the characters who only appeared in the BSFE episodes. [[http://serenesforest.net/fe12/recruit.html Player controlled units in the main game]] alone add up to 77, the largest playable cast of the entire series (just edging out ''Radiant Dawn'' at 73).
* LostForever: The Falchion in [=FE1=] ''Shadow Dragon and 3.the Blade of Light'' and ''Mystery of the Emblem''. [[EleventhHourSuperpower You know, the sword that is pretty much the only way to win the game]]? ''Shadow Dragon'' fixes that by giving you a weaker version if you fail to get the actual Falchion and let Tiki (the other primary way to beat the final boss) die, though in the remake the Falchion isn't necessary to beat the boss. If, for example, Marth was barely used throughout the game and thus still of a low level, it's still possible to complete the final chapter with said low-level Marth sitting on a fort to prevent reinforcements spawning while others take down the boss. Even in the original, it was possible to [[DeathOfAThousandCuts cut]] [[CherryTapping him to death]].



* NoExperiencePointsForMedic: In [=FE1=], staves did not generate experience. Healers could only gain EXP from being attacked.

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* NoExperiencePointsForMedic: In [=FE1=], the first game, staves did not generate experience. Healers could only gain EXP from being attacked.



* NostalgiaLevel: [=FE3=]/[=FE12=] has several of them, each taking place on the same area as a level from [=FE1/FE3=] Book 1/[=FE11=].
** Chapter 8 takes place on the Chiasmir bridge where Marth's army fought the Sable Knights (this level was not present in [=FE3=] Book 1).

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* NostalgiaLevel: [=FE3=]/[=FE12=] has ''Mystery'' and its remake have several of them, each taking place on the same area as a level from [=FE1/FE3=] ''Shadow Dragon and the Blade of Light''/''Mystery of the Emblem'' Book 1/[=FE11=].
1/''Shadow Dragon''.
** Chapter 8 takes place on the Chiasmir bridge where Marth's army fought the Sable Knights (this level was not present in [=FE3=] ''Mystery of the Emblem'' Book 1).



* RedemptionEqualsDeath: Having been nursed back to health by his sister and [[spoiler:not quite killed by the other]] after apparently dying in [=FE1=]/[=FE3=] Book 1/[=FE11=], [[spoiler:Michalis]] (formerly someone evil enough to [[spoiler:[[SelfMadeOrphan kill his own father]]]]) dies stealing [[spoiler:Starlight from Garnef]] to give to Marth's group in [=FE3=] book 2/[=FE12=]. [[spoiler:It is possible to keep him alive in [=FE12=], then he loses [[BeautyIsNeverTarnished his scars]] [[EasilyForgiven and becomes a king]], then leaves to become a king on another continent.]]

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* RedemptionEqualsDeath: Having been nursed back to health by his sister and [[spoiler:not quite killed by the other]] after apparently dying in [=FE1=]/[=FE3=] ''Shadow Dragon and the Blade of Light''/''Mystery of the Emblem'' Book 1/[=FE11=], 1/''Shadow Dragon'', [[spoiler:Michalis]] (formerly someone evil enough to [[spoiler:[[SelfMadeOrphan kill his own father]]]]) dies stealing [[spoiler:Starlight from Garnef]] to give to Marth's group in [=FE3=] book 2/[=FE12=]. ''Mystery of the Emblem'' Book 2/''New Mystery of the Emblem''. [[spoiler:It is possible to keep him alive in [=FE12=], ''New Mystery'', then he loses [[BeautyIsNeverTarnished his scars]] [[EasilyForgiven and becomes a king]], then leaves to become a king on another continent.]]



* SchizophrenicDifficulty: [=FE11's=] Normal mode. While the Hard modes are consistently some level of difficult, Normal mode really can get a laugh from you looking at the enemy types you fight further than their weapons. For example, disregarding the Gaiden Chapters, the only chapter to use Bishops that use staves and tomes is Chapter 17, the only enemies in the mercenary class are in Chapter 11, horseman enemies only appear in the early games as incredibly difficult prepromotes and disappear forever past Chapter 8 outside of one last appearance in Chapter 16, dracoknights are interchangeable with pegasus knights a la Wyvern Riders in the GBA games instead of being treated as promoted enemies, there are no enemy Sages, Warriors, Berserkers, Dark Mages, Sorcerers (sans [[TheHeavy Gharnef]], though even he was initially a Bishop), Myrmidons, or Swordmasters since they didn't exist in [=FE1=], Bishops and Mages were interchangeable almost every time the former appears, and the only healer enemies in the Final Chapter were a pair of CURATES.

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* SchizophrenicDifficulty: [=FE11's=] ''Shadow Dragon'''s Normal mode. While the Hard modes are consistently some level of difficult, Normal mode really can get a laugh from you looking at the enemy types you fight further than their weapons. For example, disregarding the Gaiden Chapters, the only chapter to use Bishops that use staves and tomes is Chapter 17, the only enemies in the mercenary class are in Chapter 11, horseman enemies only appear in the early games as incredibly difficult prepromotes and disappear forever past Chapter 8 outside of one last appearance in Chapter 16, dracoknights are interchangeable with pegasus knights a la Wyvern Riders in the GBA games instead of being treated as promoted enemies, there are no enemy Sages, Warriors, Berserkers, Dark Mages, Sorcerers (sans [[TheHeavy Gharnef]], though even he was initially a Bishop), Myrmidons, or Swordmasters since they didn't exist in [=FE1=], the first game, Bishops and Mages were interchangeable almost every time the former appears, and the only healer enemies in the Final Chapter were a pair of CURATES.



* TimeSkip: The events of ''Mystery of the Emblem'' happen two or four years after ''Dark Dragon''. The new prologue chapters in ''Shadow Dragon'' happen three years before the latter.

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* TimeSkip: The events of ''Mystery of the Emblem'' happen two or four years after ''Dark Dragon''.''Shadow Dragon and the Blade of Light''. The new prologue chapters in ''Shadow Dragon'' happen three years before the latter.



** For example:
-->''"Khadein is a free city. [[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment It is not under the rule of any country, and is an independent country.]]"''

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** For example:
-->''"Khadein
-->'''''Mystery of the Emblem'' fan translation''': "Khadein is a free city. [[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment [[ShapedLikeItself It is not under the rule of any country, and is an independent country.]]"'']]"



** In [=FE3=] Book 2, you can obtain three silver axes over the course of the whole campaign; however, there are NO units that can actually equip them, thus rendering them little more than free gold. Towards the tail-end of Chapter 20 you obtain the Gradivus, the strongest lance in the game -- when the next chapter is the only place the player can effectively use it before the final chapter. Normally, knights, and cavaliers (and their promoted classes) can equip the Gradivus assuming they have sufficient weapon skill. Unfortunately, Cavaliers can only wield lances when mounted, and they are forced to dismount indoors and fight with swords, and to make things worse, the final chapter is ''entirely indoors''. This leaves the two knights (Draug and Sheema), who are unfortunately very subpar units and not worth using in the last level. This often results in players either using the Gradivus exclusively in Chapter 21 and/or selling it so they can buy the higher quality swords, tomes, and [[RareCandy stat-boosting]] items.

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** In [=FE3=] ''Mystery of the Emblem'' Book 2, you can obtain three silver axes over the course of the whole campaign; however, there are NO units that can actually equip them, thus rendering them little more than free gold. Towards the tail-end of Chapter 20 you obtain the Gradivus, the strongest lance in the game -- when the next chapter is the only place the player can effectively use it before the final chapter. Normally, knights, and cavaliers (and their promoted classes) can equip the Gradivus assuming they have sufficient weapon skill. Unfortunately, Cavaliers can only wield lances when mounted, and they are forced to dismount indoors and fight with swords, and to make things worse, the final chapter is ''entirely indoors''. This leaves the two knights (Draug and Sheema), who are unfortunately very subpar units and not worth using in the last level. This often results in players either using the Gradivus exclusively in Chapter 21 and/or selling it so they can buy the higher quality swords, tomes, and [[RareCandy stat-boosting]] items.
1st May '16 12:58:34 PM GastonRabbit
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* EasyModeMockery: If you kept on [[WeHaveReserves losing your replacements]], ''Shadow Dragon'' would start giving you ones with rather insulting names like "Lucer", "Auffle", "Laim", "Rejek", "Owend", "Wymp", and "Wieklin"...

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* EasyModeMockery: If you kept on [[WeHaveReserves losing your replacements]], ''Shadow Dragon'' would start giving you ones with rather insulting names like "Lucer", "Auffle", "Laim", "Rejek", "Owend", "Wymp", and "Wieklin"..."Wieklin".



* GameplayAndStoryIntegration: A mild but ''very'' clever form of it. The sacrifice in the prologue of [=FE11=] can't be brought back using the one use "bring unit back from the dead" staff (even though characters that die by other means in the prologue can). Frey (who doesn't appear when the prologue is skipped and is seen as the canon sacrifice) [[http://serenesforest.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=21343&st=0 appears in the tutorial]] in ''New Mystery of the Emblem''. [[spoiler:He reveals through conversations with the player character that he ''was'' the canonical sacrifice, but upon being discovered as a fake, was beaten up and left for dead. Frey was then rescued by some citizens, and survived with some memory loss and a terrible scar. So thus, you could not revive him with the Aum staff...because Frey never actually ''died'' to begin with!]]

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* GameplayAndStoryIntegration: A mild but ''very'' clever form of it. The sacrifice in the prologue of [=FE11=] can't be brought back using the one use "bring unit back from the dead" staff (even though characters that die by other means in the prologue can). Frey (who doesn't appear when the prologue is skipped and is seen as the canon sacrifice) [[http://serenesforest.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=21343&st=0 appears in the tutorial]] in ''New Mystery of the Emblem''. [[spoiler:He reveals through conversations with the player character that he ''was'' the canonical sacrifice, but upon being discovered as a fake, was beaten up and left for dead. Frey was then rescued by some citizens, and survived with some memory loss and a terrible scar. So thus, you could not revive him with the Aum staff... because Frey never actually ''died'' to begin with!]]



* HeroicLineage: A strange case. Marth and the other Altean royal family members claim linage from Anri, the hero that defeated Medeus. Then ''Mystery of the Emblem'' reveals that they aren't actually descended from Anri, but his younger brother Marcelus. Yet Marth is called Anri's descendent anyway, which is technically true, he is just an indirect descendant.
* InconsistentDub: Like with ''Advance Wars: Days of Ruin'', both the American and European releases of ''Shadow Dragon'' had several disagreements with names. For example, Caeda in the West was Shiida in Europe, Aurelis was Orleans, Macedon was Medon, and Dolhr was Doluna.

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* HeroicLineage: A strange case. Marth and the other Altean royal family members claim linage from Anri, the hero that defeated Medeus. Then ''Mystery of the Emblem'' reveals that they aren't actually descended from Anri, Anri (who never married), but his younger brother Marcelus. Yet Marth is called Anri's descendent descendant anyway, which is technically true, he is just an indirect descendant.
* InconsistentDub: Like As with ''Advance Wars: Days of Ruin'', both the American and European releases of ''Shadow Dragon'' had several disagreements with names. For example, Caeda in the West was Shiida in Europe, Aurelis was Orleans, Macedon was Medon, and Dolhr was Doluna.



* JokeItem: [=FE3=] loves this -- they give you silver axes in a game where ''absolutely no one'' is able to use them. [[note]][[VendorTrash You were meant to sell them for funds]]; since the remake actually has axe users, it replaces them with bags of cash.[[/note]] The remake gives you a bouquet of odds and ends, not the least of which is ''a bloody frying pan!''
** However, said joke items in the remake can actually be quite useful. Forging cost depends on the value of the item, so a nearly worthless 1-might frying pan can be forged into an 11-might axe with a much higher hit rate than a steel axe, for barely any gold compared to what forging normally costs. (It still looks like a frying pan in your inventory, though.)

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* JokeItem: [=FE3=] loves this -- they give you silver axes in a game where ''absolutely no one'' is able to use them. [[note]][[VendorTrash You were meant to sell them for funds]]; since the remake actually has axe users, it replaces them with bags of cash.[[/note]] The remake gives you a bouquet of odds and ends, not the least of which is ''a bloody frying pan!''
**
pan''! However, said joke items in the remake can actually be quite useful. Forging cost depends on the value of the item, so a nearly worthless 1-might frying pan can be forged into an 11-might axe with a much higher hit rate than a steel axe, for barely any gold compared to what forging normally costs. (It still looks like a frying pan in your inventory, though.)



* LostForever: The Falchion in [=FE1=] and 3. [[EleventhHourSuperpower You know, the sword that is pretty much the only way to win the game]]? ''Shadow Dragon'' fixes that by giving you a weaker version if you fail to get the actual Falchion.
** It's worth noting that at least in the remake, Falchion isn't necessary to beat the boss. If, for example, Marth was barely used throughout the game and thus still of a low level, it's still possible to complete the final chapter with said low-level Marth sitting on a fort to prevent reinforcements spawning while others take down the boss.
*** Even in the original, it was possible to [[DeathOfAThousandCuts cut]] [[CherryTapping him to death]].
** It's also worth noting that in the remake, to get the weaker Falchion, you have to have not only missed it, but ''also'' have let Tiki die. (Tiki is the only other way to kill the final boss outside of CherryTapping).

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* LostForever: The Falchion in [=FE1=] and 3. [[EleventhHourSuperpower You know, the sword that is pretty much the only way to win the game]]? ''Shadow Dragon'' fixes that by giving you a weaker version if you fail to get the actual Falchion.
** It's worth noting that at least
Falchion and let Tiki (the other primary way to beat the final boss) die, though in the remake, remake the Falchion isn't necessary to beat the boss. If, for example, Marth was barely used throughout the game and thus still of a low level, it's still possible to complete the final chapter with said low-level Marth sitting on a fort to prevent reinforcements spawning while others take down the boss.
***
boss. Even in the original, it was possible to [[DeathOfAThousandCuts cut]] [[CherryTapping him to death]].
** It's also worth noting that in the remake, to get the weaker Falchion, you have to have not only missed it, but ''also'' have let Tiki die. (Tiki is the only other way to kill the final boss outside of CherryTapping).
death]].



* MayflyDecemberFriendship: The manaketes Gotoh, Xane, Bantu, and Tiki all befriend Marth. Needless to say, they all outlive himóthe first three even outlived Marth's ancestor Anri. In a conversation with Xane, he mentions this as a reason why he has trouble connecting with humans.

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* MayflyDecemberFriendship: The manaketes Gotoh, Xane, Bantu, and Tiki all befriend Marth. Needless to say, they all outlive himóthe him--the first three even outlived Marth's ancestor Anri. In a conversation with Xane, he mentions this as a reason why he has trouble connecting with humans.



* MindControlEyes: In the DS version, [[spoiler:Maria, Lena, Nyna, and Elice have these.]]

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* MindControlEyes: In the DS version, [[spoiler:Maria, Lena, Nyna, and Elice have these.]] these]].



* MoodWhiplash: Occasionally occurs in the Supports of ''New Mystery''. For example, Xane's third conversation with My Unit starts with him pretending to be Jagen and declaring his love for them, but then discussing how he no longer fits in with humans or dragons, and [[WhoWantsToLiveForever how cynical he's become due to living so long.]]
* {{Nerf}}: Between ''Shadow Dragon'' and ''New Mystery of the Emblem'', Javelins went from a respectable 7 might to a pitiful ''3''! That's even worse than an Iron Sword!

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* MoodWhiplash: Occasionally occurs in the Supports of ''New Mystery''. For example, Xane's third conversation with My Unit starts with him pretending to be Jagen and declaring his love for them, but then discussing how he no longer fits in with humans or dragons, and [[WhoWantsToLiveForever how cynical he's become due to living so long.]]
long]].
* {{Nerf}}: Between ''Shadow Dragon'' and ''New Mystery of the Emblem'', Javelins javelins went from a respectable 7 might to a pitiful ''3''! That's even worse than an Iron Sword! iron sword!



** Almost everything in ''Dark Dragon'' and ''Mystery'' are nerfed in the remake, such as the overpowered stats boosters in the NES and SNES games.
** Marth perhaps gets hit by the biggest nerf in the series by far, going from an overpowered juggernaut in ''Dark Dragon'', and DiscOneNuke in ''Mystery'', into one of the worst Rapier wielding Lords in the series in ''Shadow Dragon'' and merely good in ''New Mystery''.

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** Almost everything in ''Dark Dragon'' ''Shadow Dragon and ''Mystery'' the Blade of Light'' and ''Mystery of the Emblem'' are nerfed in the remake, such as the overpowered stats boosters in the NES and SNES games.
** Marth perhaps gets hit by the biggest nerf in the series by far, going from an overpowered juggernaut in ''Dark Dragon'', the first game, and DiscOneNuke in ''Mystery'', into one of the worst Rapier wielding rapier-wielding Lords in the series in ''Shadow Dragon'' and merely good in ''New Mystery''.



* NoExperiencePointsForMedic: In [=FE1=], staffs did not generate experience. Healers could only gain EXP from being attacked.

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* NoExperiencePointsForMedic: In [=FE1=], staffs staves did not generate experience. Healers could only gain EXP from being attacked.



* PurpleProse: The English localization of ''Shadow Dragon'' is incredibly eloquent and floral to the point of bordering on this trope, an incredibly stark contrast to the rather barebones scripts of the earlier ''Dark Dragon'' and ''Mystery'' fan translations, and also fairly different from earlier official localizations of the series. In a case of TropesAreNotBad, common consensus is that the game is much better off for it, with the ''New Mystery'' fan translation seeking to emulate the style.

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* PurpleProse: The English localization of ''Shadow Dragon'' is incredibly eloquent and floral to the point of bordering on this trope, an incredibly stark contrast to the rather barebones bare-bones scripts of the earlier ''Dark Dragon'' ''Shadow Dragon and ''Mystery'' the Blade of Light'' and ''Mystery of the Emblem'' fan translations, and also fairly different from earlier official localizations of the series. In a case of TropesAreNotBad, common consensus is that the game is much better off for it, with the ''New Mystery'' fan translation seeking to emulate the style.



* SomeoneHasToDie: The final prequel chapter in ''Shadow Dragon'' requires that the player select a unit to act as a decoy for a pursuing army. Interestingly, the game actually accounts for a few variations: it won't let the player [[MoreExpendableThanYou send Marth]], and the locked door preventing escape will open if you [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone kill Gordin as an enemy]] or if [[KillEmAll Marth is the only unit to survive that long.]]
** Subverted as of ''New Mystery'', Frey (who is the canon sacrifice) explains what really happened...

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* SomeoneHasToDie: The final prequel chapter in ''Shadow Dragon'' requires that the player select a unit to act as a decoy for a pursuing army. Interestingly, the game actually accounts for a few variations: it won't let the player [[MoreExpendableThanYou send Marth]], and the locked door preventing escape will open if you [[MyGodWhatHaveIDone kill Gordin as an enemy]] or if [[KillEmAll Marth is the only unit to survive that long.]]
**
long]]. Subverted as of ''New Mystery'', Mystery''; Frey (who is the canon sacrifice) explains what really happened...happened.



* SpellMyNameWithAnS: All over the place, by necessity of how long they went without an official translation; very few names are remotely consistent and standardized, among them being "Marth" and "Camus". A particularly interesting example occurred long before then: Marth being called "Mars" in the dubbed OVA (though it was still pronounced closer to "Marth" than it was how "Mars" is normally pronounced). The English release of ''Shadow Dragon'' managed to both put many of the name quandaries to rest AND create even more with differences between the European and American versions!

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* SpellMyNameWithAnS: All over the place, by necessity of how long they went without an official translation; very few names are remotely consistent and standardized, among them being "Marth" and "Camus". A particularly interesting example occurred long before then: Marth being called "Mars" in the dubbed OVA (though it was still pronounced closer to "Marth" than it was how "Mars" is normally pronounced). The English release of ''Shadow Dragon'' managed to both put many of the name quandaries to rest AND '''and''' create even more with differences between the European and American versions!



* TimeSkip: The events of ''Mystery of the Emblem'' happen 2 (or 4) years after ''Dark Dragon''. The new prologue chapters in ''Shadow Dragon'' happen 3 years before the latter.

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* TimeSkip: The events of ''Mystery of the Emblem'' happen 2 (or 4) two or four years after ''Dark Dragon''. The new prologue chapters in ''Shadow Dragon'' happen 3 three years before the latter.



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* TrilogyCreep: ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening'', while nominally a standalone title, quite clearly takes place 2000 years after this series. The creators admittedly like Archanea.
* TwoPartTrilogy: Zig-Zagged. Unlike other examples of that trope, it's the ''middle'' one of the trilogy that's disconnected, only sharing a couple of characters and the world in common.
* VendorTrash: In the NDS remakes, there are items called 'Bullion' which serves only as this with three different values depending on its size.
** In [=FE3=] Book Two, you can obtain three Silver Axes over the course of the whole campaign; however, there are NO units that can actually equip them, thus rendering them little more than free gold.
*** It gets worse in Book Two towards the tail-end of Chapter 20 when you obtain the Gradivus, the strongest lance in the game -- when the next chapter is the only place the player can effectively use it before the Final Chapter. Normally, Armors and Cavaliers (and their promoted classes) can equip the Gradivus assuming they have sufficient weapon skill. Unfortunately, Cavaliers can only wield lances when mounted, and they are forced to dismount indoors and fight with swords, and to make things worse, the Final Chapter is ''entirely indoors''. This leaves the two Armors (Draug and Sheema), who are unfortunately very subpar units and not worth using in the last level. This often results in players either using the Gradivus exclusively in Chapter 21 and/or selling it so they can buy the higher quality swords, tomes, and [[RareCandy stat boosting]] items.

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* TrilogyCreep: ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening'', while nominally a standalone title, quite clearly takes place 2000 2,000 years after this series. The creators admittedly like Archanea.
* TwoPartTrilogy: Zig-Zagged.Zig-zagged. Unlike other examples of that trope, it's the ''middle'' one of the trilogy that's disconnected, only sharing a couple of characters and the world in common.
* VendorTrash: In the NDS DS remakes, there are items called 'Bullion' which serves serve only as this with three different values depending on its size.
** In [=FE3=] Book Two, 2, you can obtain three Silver Axes silver axes over the course of the whole campaign; however, there are NO units that can actually equip them, thus rendering them little more than free gold.
*** It gets worse in Book Two towards
gold. Towards the tail-end of Chapter 20 when you obtain the Gradivus, the strongest lance in the game -- when the next chapter is the only place the player can effectively use it before the Final Chapter. final chapter. Normally, Armors knights, and Cavaliers cavaliers (and their promoted classes) can equip the Gradivus assuming they have sufficient weapon skill. Unfortunately, Cavaliers can only wield lances when mounted, and they are forced to dismount indoors and fight with swords, and to make things worse, the Final Chapter final chapter is ''entirely indoors''. This leaves the two Armors knights (Draug and Sheema), who are unfortunately very subpar units and not worth using in the last level. This often results in players either using the Gradivus exclusively in Chapter 21 and/or selling it so they can buy the higher quality swords, tomes, and [[RareCandy stat boosting]] stat-boosting]] items.
1st May '16 12:43:24 PM GastonRabbit
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The original ''VideoGame/FireEmblem'' timeline, and by far the one most proliferated in the franchise, sporting a respectable three main games, two remakes, four UsefulNotes/{{Satellaview}} maps, an {{OVA}} and countless manga adaptations. [[MarthDebutedInSmashBros Yes, these are the ones with Marth]].

* '''''Fire Emblem: The Dark Dragon and the Sword of Light''''' (UsefulNotes/{{Famicom}}, 1990) is the franchise's debut, starring Prince Marth of Altea. It tells of his efforts to win back his homeland and the entirety of Archanea from the [[SpellMyNameWithAnS Dolhr]] empire, and of his search for his family's AncestralWeapon Falchion, which is needed if the dragon emperor Medeus is to fall. The game is a pioneer in the genre of Japanese TurnBasedStrategy [=RPGs=], but partially as a result, [[SeinfeldIsUnfunny its interface has not aged particularly well]]. A FanTranslation was completed in 2011.
* '''''Fire Emblem Gaiden''''' (UsefulNotes/{{Famicom}}, 1992) is the second game, taking place in the same world as the first game but on the fairly distant continent of Valentia, and its plot has minimal relation to that of the first game. [[OddballInTheSeries It's the odd duck of the series]], playing quite differently and featuring a lot of unique gameplay elements that haven't been seen outside of the rare [[SpiritualSuccessor spiritual successors]] like ''VideoGame/FireEmblemTheSacredStones'', ''VideoGame/TearRingSaga'' and ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening''. A FanTranslation was completed in November 2009.
* '''''Fire Emblem: Mystery of the Emblem''''' (UsefulNotes/SuperFamicom, 1993) is the third title in the series, comprising both a compressed remake of the first game (''Book 1'') and a new sequel (''Book 2''), giving players the option to skip to the sequel if they're already familiar with the original game. In the sequel, several years after the fall of Medeus, Marth is dispatched by Emperor Hardin of Archanea to deal with an uprising in Grust, but is appalled to find his "allies" are instead brutally oppressing the citizens. Marth gathers a liberation army to fight back against the now corrupt Archanean Empire. A fan translation was completed in March 2008.
* '''''BS Fire Emblem: Archanea War Chronicles''''' (UsefulNotes/SuperFamicom / UsefulNotes/{{Satellaview}}, 1997) is a collection of four Satellaview broadcast maps based on the ''Mystery of the Emblem'' engine, telling a number of sidestories set before the beginning of the first game. The nature of these games' distribution system makes them difficult to emulate at all, never mind with accuracy, so they generally go overlooked. These four maps are generally considered to comprise a single game and are for the most part not counted in the numbering scheme of the ''VideoGame/FireEmblem'' series, though Literature/GuinnessWorldRecords does count them.

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The original ''VideoGame/FireEmblem'' timeline, and by far the one most proliferated prolific in the franchise, sporting a respectable three main games, two remakes, four UsefulNotes/{{Satellaview}} maps, an {{OVA}} and countless manga adaptations. [[MarthDebutedInSmashBros Yes, these are the ones with Marth]].

* '''''Fire ''Fire Emblem: The Dark Shadow Dragon and the Sword Blade of Light''''' (UsefulNotes/{{Famicom}}, Light'' ([[UsefulNotes/NintendoEntertainmentSystem Famicom]], 1990) is the franchise's debut, starring Prince Marth of Altea. It tells of his efforts to win back his homeland and the entirety of Archanea from the [[SpellMyNameWithAnS Dolhr]] Dolhr empire, and of his search for his family's AncestralWeapon Falchion, which is needed if the dragon emperor Medeus is to fall. The game is a pioneer in the genre of Japanese TurnBasedStrategy [=RPGs=], but partially as a result, [[SeinfeldIsUnfunny its interface has not aged particularly well]]. A FanTranslation was completed in 2011.
* '''''Fire ''Fire Emblem Gaiden''''' (UsefulNotes/{{Famicom}}, Gaiden'' (Famicom, 1992) is the second game, taking place in the same world as the first game but on the fairly distant continent of Valentia, and its plot has minimal relation to that of the first game. [[OddballInTheSeries It's the odd duck of the series]], playing quite differently and featuring a lot of unique gameplay elements that haven't been seen outside of the rare [[SpiritualSuccessor spiritual successors]] like ''VideoGame/FireEmblemTheSacredStones'', ''VideoGame/TearRingSaga'' ''VideoGame/TearRingSaga'', and ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening''. A FanTranslation was completed in November 2009.
* '''''Fire ''Fire Emblem: Mystery of the Emblem''''' (UsefulNotes/SuperFamicom, Emblem'' ([[UsefulNotes/SuperNintendoEntertainmentSystem Super Famicom]], 1993) is the third title in the series, comprising both a compressed remake of the first game (''Book 1'') and a new sequel (''Book 2''), giving players the option to skip to the sequel if they're already familiar with the original game. In the sequel, several years after the fall of Medeus, Marth is dispatched by Emperor Hardin of Archanea to deal with an uprising in Grust, but is appalled to find his "allies" are instead brutally oppressing the citizens. Marth gathers a liberation army to fight back against the now corrupt Archanean Empire. A fan translation was completed in March 2008.
* '''''BS ''BS Fire Emblem: Archanea War Chronicles''''' (UsefulNotes/SuperFamicom Chronicles'' (Super Famicom / UsefulNotes/{{Satellaview}}, 1997) is a collection of four Satellaview broadcast maps based on the ''Mystery of the Emblem'' engine, telling a number of sidestories side-stories set before the beginning of the first game. The nature of these games' distribution system makes them difficult to emulate at all, never mind with accuracy, so they generally go overlooked. These four maps are generally considered to comprise a single game and are for the most part not counted in the numbering scheme of the ''VideoGame/FireEmblem'' series, though Literature/GuinnessWorldRecords does count them.



* '''''Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon''''' (UsefulNotes/NintendoDS, 2008/2009) is a remake of the first game, and is generally counted as the eleventh installment in the franchise. It is the first game in the series to have a vaguely decent multiplayer mode, complete with online play, and has a new feature that lets the player switch the classes of their units at will; otherwise, it's pretty much a straight remake with only a few additions and modifications. With the international release of ''Shadow Dragon'', [[MarthDebutedInSmashBros Marth is now the record holder for "longest delayed solo debut after a debut in]] [[VideoGame/SuperSmashBros another series"]].
* '''''Fire Emblem: New Mystery of the Emblem ~Heroes of Light and Darkness~''''' (UsefulNotes/NintendoDS, 2010), generally counted as the twelfth title, is a remake of Book 2 of ''Mystery of the Emblem''. Unlike ''Shadow Dragon'', it is far less of a direct redo; it reincorporates characters left out of the original ''Mystery'', introduces those from the Satellaview chapters and ''Shadow Dragon'', alters the story slightly and implements a completely new subplot, as well as the inclusion of a [[HelloInsertNameHere player-created]] [[PlayerCharacter character]] (a feature which would be carried over to the next two entries in the series, ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening Awakening]]'' and ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemFates Fates]]''). It includes remakes of the four ''BS Fire Emblem'' chapters as bonus content, as well as all-new bonus chapters as downloadable content. For reasons unknown, [[NoExportForYou it didn't receive an English release]], but as of November 2012, there is a [[http://www.heroesofshadow.net/2012/11/complete-translation-patch-released.html complete fan translation!]]

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* '''''Fire ''Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon''''' Dragon'' (UsefulNotes/NintendoDS, 2008/2009) is a remake of the first game, and is generally counted as the eleventh installment in the franchise. It is the first game in the series to have a vaguely decent multiplayer mode, complete with online play, and has a new feature that lets the player switch the classes of their units at will; otherwise, it's pretty much a straight remake with only a few additions and modifications. With the international release of ''Shadow Dragon'', [[MarthDebutedInSmashBros Marth is now the record holder for "longest delayed solo debut after a debut in]] [[VideoGame/SuperSmashBros another series"]].
* '''''Fire ''Fire Emblem: New Mystery of the Emblem ~Heroes Emblem, Heroes of Light and Darkness~''''' Shadow'' (UsefulNotes/NintendoDS, 2010), generally counted as the twelfth title, is a remake of Book 2 of ''Mystery of the Emblem''. Unlike ''Shadow Dragon'', it is far less of a direct redo; it reincorporates characters left out of the original ''Mystery'', introduces those from the Satellaview chapters and ''Shadow Dragon'', alters the story slightly and implements a completely new subplot, as well as the inclusion of a [[HelloInsertNameHere player-created]] [[PlayerCharacter character]] (a feature which would be carried over to the next two entries in the series, ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening Awakening]]'' and ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemFates Fates]]''). It includes remakes of the four ''BS Fire Emblem'' chapters as bonus content, as well as all-new bonus chapters as downloadable content. For reasons unknown, [[NoExportForYou it didn't receive an English release]], but as of November 2012, there is a [[http://www.heroesofshadow.net/2012/11/complete-translation-patch-released.html complete fan translation!]]
translation]].



** A main villain, Lang, not only massacres whole villages if one person rebels, but kills boys and ''rapes'' girls. You can imagine how well ''that'' was taken by Marth and his group. It's also invoked in the backstory of Lena's pupil Maillesia (which involved her going into hiding and having to pretend she's much younger than she truly is to avoid him or his troops) and in Yubello and Yumina's (as the fallen heirs of Ludvick, Lang and others kill their guardian and then use them as pawns)

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** A main villain, Lang, not only massacres whole villages if one person rebels, but kills boys and ''rapes'' girls. You can imagine how well ''that'' was taken by Marth and his group. It's also invoked in the backstory of Lena's pupil Maillesia (which involved her going into hiding and having to pretend she's much younger than she truly is to avoid him or his troops) and in Yubello and Yumina's (as the fallen heirs of Ludvick, Lang and others kill their guardian and then use them as pawns)pawns).



* ArtEvolution: ''Mystery of the Emblem'' was the first Fire Emblem to have an actual artist in the development team. To give an example, look at Astram's portrait between the various games: [[http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v139/VincentASM/Site/FE1/Astria.png FE1]], [[http://serenesforest.net/fe3/face/astria.gif FE3]], [[http://serenesforest.net/fe11/face/astria.png FE11]], [[http://serenesforest.net/fe12/face/ASTRIA.PNG FE12]]

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* ArtEvolution: ''Mystery of the Emblem'' was the first Fire Emblem to have an actual artist in the development team. To give an example, look at Astram's portrait between the various games: [[http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v139/VincentASM/Site/FE1/Astria.png FE1]], [[http://serenesforest.net/fe3/face/astria.gif FE3]], [[http://serenesforest.net/fe11/face/astria.png FE11]], [[http://serenesforest.net/fe12/face/ASTRIA.PNG FE12]]FE12]].



* TheAnimeOfTheGame: A 2-episode OVA based off of the first game was released in 1996, and was licensed by Creator/ADVFilms in 1997. WordOfGod put out that it was supposed to last longer, but did not due to a lack of funds. Marth was voiced by Creator/HikaruMidorikawa, who went on to voice him in ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros''; his dub voice was Creator/SpikeSpencer, who as of yet hasn't reprised the role, even in Marth's ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros'' appearances.

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* TheAnimeOfTheGame: A 2-episode two-episode OVA based off of on the first game was released in 1996, and was licensed by Creator/ADVFilms in 1997. WordOfGod put out that it was supposed to last longer, but did not due to a lack of funds. Marth was voiced by Creator/HikaruMidorikawa, who went on to voice him in ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros''; his dub voice was Creator/SpikeSpencer, who as of yet hasn't reprised the role, even in Marth's ''VideoGame/SuperSmashBros'' appearances.



** Or the sidequest requirements imply that those replacement units that you get for losing too much characters actually existed, and they are the ones sacrificed in order to attain the sidequest characters. In the beginning of Book 2 Tutorial, My Unit can visit Marth attending to a graveyard of fallen soldiers, implying that.

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** Or the The sidequest requirements imply that those replacement units that you get for losing too much characters actually existed, and they are the ones sacrificed in order to attain the sidequest characters. In the beginning of Book 2 Tutorial, My Unit can visit Marth attending to a graveyard of fallen soldiers, implying that.



* CrutchCharacter: Jagen is a very well-known example and former TropeNamer. In the original, he has less than a 10% chance of raising each stat upon level up (with some having a ''0%'' chance), but starts decent compared to your level 1 unpromoted units. Arran replaces him in book 2 (Jagen is now Marth's tactician and doesn't fight) with only slightly better growths (Arran ''has'' a defense growth) and is ''worse'' than Jagen in the remake (his ''only'' advantage over a statsless replacement unit in growths is 10% extra luck growth). Both remakes and Mystery lampshade their roles, telling the player to work on other units.

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* CrutchCharacter: Jagen is a very well-known example and former TropeNamer. In the original, he has less than a 10% chance of raising each stat upon level up (with some having a ''0%'' chance), but starts decent compared to your level 1 unpromoted units. Arran replaces him in book 2 (Jagen is now Marth's tactician and doesn't fight) with only slightly better growths (Arran ''has'' a defense growth) and is ''worse'' than Jagen in the remake (his ''only'' advantage over a statsless statless replacement unit in growths is 10% extra luck growth). Both remakes and Mystery lampshade their roles, telling the player to work on other units.
18th Apr '16 10:10:34 PM Wuz
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* '''''Fire Emblem Gaiden''''' (UsefulNotes/{{Famicom}}, 1992) is the second game, taking place in the same world as the first game but on the fairly distant continent of Valentia, and its plot has minimal relation to that of the first game. [[EarlyInstallmentWeirdness It's the odd duck of the series]], playing quite differently and featuring a lot of unique gameplay elements that haven't been seen outside of the rare [[SpiritualSuccessor spiritual successors]] like ''VideoGame/FireEmblemTheSacredStones'', ''VideoGame/TearRingSaga'' and ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening''. A FanTranslation was completed in November 2009.

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* '''''Fire Emblem Gaiden''''' (UsefulNotes/{{Famicom}}, 1992) is the second game, taking place in the same world as the first game but on the fairly distant continent of Valentia, and its plot has minimal relation to that of the first game. [[EarlyInstallmentWeirdness [[OddballInTheSeries It's the odd duck of the series]], playing quite differently and featuring a lot of unique gameplay elements that haven't been seen outside of the rare [[SpiritualSuccessor spiritual successors]] like ''VideoGame/FireEmblemTheSacredStones'', ''VideoGame/TearRingSaga'' and ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening''. A FanTranslation was completed in November 2009.
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