History VideoGame / FinalFantasyXII

23rd Jul '16 4:35:40 AM Aerro
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->''"The Reins of History, back in the hands of Man."''

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->''"The Reins ->''"Not lightly will the Occuria allow you to wrest the reins of History, history from their grasp, back in the hands of Man."''
15th Jul '16 7:52:10 PM ChaoticNovelist
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* {{Satan}}: Venat. [[spoiler:To prove how much of an utter group of jackasses the Occuria are, Venat is the game's BiggerBad and still comes across as the most sympathetic among them, and even performing a [[HeroicSacrifice Villainous Sacrifice]] to help Vayne. This doesn't work, but it still wins, as the Occuria have been rendered powerless now that all their conduits to the physical world have been severed.]]

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* {{Satan}}: Venat. [[spoiler:To prove how much of an utter group of jackasses SatanicArchetype: [[spoiler: Vennat is a divine being who rebelled against the Occuria are, Venat rest of his kind and is thus considered a "heretic" by them. The means and nature of this rebellion are the game's BiggerBad and still comes across as the most sympathetic among them, and even performing a [[HeroicSacrifice Villainous Sacrifice]] to help Vayne. This doesn't work, but it still wins, as the Occuria have been rendered powerless now same; giving humans knowledge that all their conduits inspired them to the physical world have been severed.go to war. To this purpose he made a deal with Cid and Vayne.]]
11th Jul '16 9:14:44 PM Ghilz
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*** Ashe lost both her husband and her father in the war and yet her duty as Princess require her to push on (and not pursue her feelings for Balthier).

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*** Ashe lost both her husband and her father in the war and yet her duty as Princess require her to push on (and not pursue her feelings for Balthier).on.
11th Jul '16 8:47:33 PM Ghilz
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** '''Family''': Both losing it literally or being estranged from it. And what leads one to that; as well as how it affects you.
*** Vaan is an orphan following the death of his brother; and his desire to avenge him as well as his status as an orphan street urchin defines and drives his motivations.
*** Ashe lost both her husband and her father in the war and yet her duty as Princess require her to push on (and not pursue her feelings for Balthier).
*** Basch and his brother are on opposite sides of the war following the loss of their mother and their conflict forms much of the story.
*** Balthier and Fran both split from their family over ideological reasons and cut off all ties with them.
*** Vayne wants to secure his family's control and legacy against those who would threaten it (The Senate; rival houses of the Empire; the occuria). This drives him to actions that cost him his family members; both literally as he kills his father and through driving Larsa to oppose him.
16th Jun '16 7:59:22 AM DrakeClawfang
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** The Kotetsu, the first katana-type weapon (also normally not avaibale until Jahara) can be dropped by an enemy on the Giza Plains, again accessible right after Vaan beats the Rogue Tomato.

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** The Kotetsu, the first katana-type weapon (also normally not avaibale available until Jahara) can be dropped by an enemy on the Giza Plains, again accessible right after Vaan beats the Rogue Tomato.
16th Jun '16 7:36:22 AM DrakeClawfang
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* BraggingRightsReward:

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* BraggingRightsReward: A lot of the best stuff in the game is so hard to acquire that it can fall into this; do you really need it so bad if you can spend hours fighting powerful enemies to acquire it?



** The Tournesol is not much better. Getting it requires several hours hunting down rare and powerful enemies to farm rate Loot from them

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** The Tournesol is not much better. Getting it requires several hours hunting down rare and powerful enemies to farm rate Loot rare loot from themthem, and its a GuideDangIt from start to finish to know that you need those loot items. Your reward is one of the best weapons in the game, but as good as the Tournesol is, you can finish the game just fine without it.
** Other ultimate items (Danjuro, Yagyu Darkblade, Staff of the Magi, Grand Armor, Grand Helm) have a single digit percentage of dropping from Rare enemies that only spawn under specific circumstances.
16th Jun '16 7:29:45 AM DrakeClawfang
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* BraggingRightsReward: The Wyrmhero Blade. The highest attack in the game, automatically grants Bravery and Faith status, and has an 80% combo rate. But to get it you need to beat [[MarathonBoss Yiazmat]] (which is only unlocked after completing the other 44 hunts) and Omega Mk. XII. Thus, by the time you can get the blade, you've beaten the game's strongest enemies. All that's left is hunting rare enemies and elementals for rare loot and killing the optional Espers, which you're obviously strong enough to do without it.

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* BraggingRightsReward: BraggingRightsReward:
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The Wyrmhero Blade. The highest attack in the game, automatically grants Bravery and Faith status, and has an 80% combo rate. But to get it you need to beat [[MarathonBoss Yiazmat]] (which is only unlocked after completing the other 44 hunts) and Omega Mk. XII. Thus, by the time you can get the blade, you've beaten the game's strongest enemies. All that's left is hunting rare enemies and elementals for rare loot and killing the optional Espers, which you're obviously strong enough to do without it.it.
** The Tournesol is not much better. Getting it requires several hours hunting down rare and powerful enemies to farm rate Loot from them



*** Particular mention to the Tournesol, the ''second''-most powerful weapon in the game, because it encompasses all of the above. It can only be obtained by purchasing it at the Bazaar by selling three each of three particular pieces of loot. You get one each of them from Montblanc for doing various tasks, so how do you get the other two each? You have to track down very rare loot items, most only obtainable as steal or drop items from one or two enemies, often times Rare Game. Sell those very rare loot items in the right quantities to unlock the Tournesol's trade components in the Bazaar, buy those trade components, and then sell them back to unlock the sword. And make sure you do it one component at a time, if you have the trade items to unlock three of a component and sell all of them at once, the Bazaar only "credits" you for one purchase of it, so you get to go back and get more!

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*** Particular mention to the Tournesol, the ''second''-most powerful weapon in the game, because it encompasses all of the above. It can only be obtained by purchasing it at the Bazaar by selling three each of three particular pieces of loot. You get one each of them from Montblanc for doing various tasks, so how do you get the other two each? You have to track down very rare loot items, most only obtainable as steal or drop items from one or two enemies, often times Rare Game. Sell those very rare loot items in the right quantities to unlock the Tournesol's trade components in the Bazaar, buy those trade components, and then sell them back to unlock the sword. And make sure you do it one component at a time, if you have the trade items to unlock three of a component and sell all of them at once, the Bazaar only "credits" you for one purchase of it, that ingredient, so you get to go back and get more!



** A number of the treasure chests that can only be opened once can be wasted by using (or sometimes not using) the Diamond Armlet, an accessory that improves the quality of items you find from chests, but sometimes screws you over by turning a really good item into vendor trash. This was at least fixed in the NoExportForYou international edition, in which all one time cheasts will always give you a specific treasure (though some of them still have a limited chance to spawn in the first place).

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** A number of the treasure chests that can only be opened once can be wasted by using (or sometimes not using) the Diamond Armlet, an accessory that improves the quality of items you find from chests, but sometimes screws you over by turning a really good item into vendor trash. This was at least fixed in the NoExportForYou international edition, in which all one time cheasts chests will always give you a specific treasure (though some of them still have a limited chance to spawn in the first place).place).
** There's also a fair number of side quests that can only be found by talking to random [=NPCs=]. The cockatrice hunt, Bhujerban Madhu, Ktjn, the Hunt Club, and about half of the Espers in the game, fall under this category.
16th Jun '16 7:25:24 AM DrakeClawfang
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* InfinityPlusOneSword: One for each weapon class.
** Gilgamesh also has a collection of these from prior games in the series, and some ''outside'' the series. And ''every single one'' is a fake.

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* InfinityMinusOneSword: Every ultimate weapon, and sometimes even the next-best thing, is very rare to acquire. Either you have to gather specific quantities of very rare loot, the item is found in a single specific treasure chest, or dropped from a rare and/or powerful enemy. Thus you'll be spending most of the game making due with the second and third-best items.
** The Danjuro, the ultimate dagger, is only dropped by the Larva Eater, a rare enemy spawned in the Great Crystal, which is ThatOneDungeon. Or you can just buy the slightly weaker Zwill Crossblade in Balfonheim.
** The Yagyu Darkblade, the ultimate ninja sword, is a 3% drop from the Bombshell, an enemy that only has a 20% chance to spawn in one specific area in the Lhusu Mines. Or, you can just gather the moderately rare loot to unlock the Orochi at the Bazaar.
** The best gun, the Fomalhaut, is found in a handful of chests across the game, and those chests may not even spawn or contain it. On the other hand the Arcturus can be found in the bazaar and is a famous DiscOneNuke because it can be acquired as soon as you get to Raithwall's Tomb.
* InfinityPlusOneSword: One for each Every weapon class.
** Gilgamesh also
class has a collection an ultimate weapon, but getting them is often ridiculously difficult due to needing lots of these from prior games in the series, and some ''outside'' the series. And ''every single one'' is hard-to-find loot or only being dropped by a fake.specific rare enemy.


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** The Zodiac Spear combines this with DiscOneNuke. In terms of raw power it has the highest attack strength in the game, even higher than the Tournesol and Wyrmhero Blade. It can be acquired as soon as the party can get to the Mosphoran Highwaste, but requires trekking through a BeefGate several miles long to get.
16th Jun '16 7:11:31 AM DrakeClawfang
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* RandomlyDrops: Oh yes.

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* RandomlyDrops: Oh yes. Lots of rare equipment and loot can only be acquired as very low drops from one specific enemy. Hunting them down to get the best stuff in the game is a big part of gameplay.
15th Jun '16 6:38:35 AM DrakeClawfang
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!!The manga adaptation provides examples of:

[[folder:Manga]]
* AdaptationalBadass: The Judges have been each upgraded from EliteMook to OneManArmy, possessing superhuman strength and speed in addition to their fighting training making them powerful duelists. Take Ghis for example--he kills Firemane single-handedly and then takes on Fran and Balthier and was beating them until Vaan intervened. ''And he was barehanded the whole time''.
** Standard operating procedure seems to be for the game's bosses to suffer BadassDecay so the party members can gain this trait dealing {{One Hit KO}}s to them -- Fran uses a Quickening to freeze a second Firemane solid, and Basch cleaves the Mimic Queen apart in one swing. Using a rusted and cracked sword he repaired to working condition using HeroicWillpower.
* AdaptationExpansion: Flashbacks show the circumstances of how Ashe and Rasler fell in love, why Archadia began the war, and Basch's side of the story during the night Raminas was killed.
** PragmaticAdaptation: As the chapters progressed from backstory to the in-game events, it still follows the general outline of the game's plot, but a lot of scenes are swapped out and new ones added in.
* AscendedExtra: Vossler's role in the early game is much more fleshed out.
* CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass: What Vaan is shaping into. The other characters note he's an idiot, but when he gets into a fight, through either [[IndyPloy quick thinking]] or dumb luck, he's surprisingly capable.
* {{Flanderization}}: Vaan is a full IdiotHero, Balthier is a ChivalrousPervert, and Ashe has undergone {{Chickification}} to emphasize her powerlessness before the Empire.
* HotterAndSexier: While Ashe is the focus of this as described below, Fran and Penelo aren't exempt either. Penelo appears in her home in her underwear in one scene, and overall the three female party members are often shown from angles that emphasize their breasts and rears.
* MsFanservice: Ashe is prone to being depicted ''very'' gratuitously, her rear particularly being emphasized often, and on one page she's ''fully nude'' with BarbieDollAnatomy.
* ShoutOut: When Ashe "borrows" Lord Rasler's sword and runs off, he calls out after her.
-->'''Lord Rasler:''' Wait up! [[VideoGame/TheLegendOfZelda It's dangerous to go alone!]]
* WorldOfHam: There is a ''lot'' of shouting and grandstanding going on.
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