History VideoGame / FinalFantasyIVTheAfterYears

27th Dec '16 1:10:34 PM ADrago
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* LostForever: The Eblan Four and Luca's dolls stay on as permanent party members in the final chapters, but only if you complete Edge's Tale with the Four alive and repair the dolls in Rydia's Tale. Items not acquired in the individual Tales are not carried over if you import the save data into the final chapter without having them. You ''could'' play the tale again and get them, but then you have to restart the final chapter so you can re-import your data. This is particularly irritating if you decide to skip the Challenge Dungeons, which host many rare and useful items including Adamantite, which you can trade for the game's strongest equipment.


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* PermanentlyMissableContent: The Eblan Four and Luca's dolls stay on as permanent party members in the final chapters, but only if you complete Edge's Tale with the Four alive and repair the dolls in Rydia's Tale. Items not acquired in the individual Tales are not carried over if you import the save data into the final chapter without having them. You ''could'' play the tale again and get them, but then you have to restart the final chapter so you can re-import your data. This is particularly irritating if you decide to skip the Challenge Dungeons, which host many rare and useful items including Adamantite, which you can trade for the game's strongest equipment.
4th Sep '16 1:54:08 AM CharcoalRites
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* OneGenderRace: [[spoiler: The Maenads. Justified, as they were created from the Crystal's memories of Rydia, essentially making them genetically perfected clones of her.]]
4th Sep '16 1:50:58 AM CharcoalRites
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* TheRightOfASuperiorSpecies: [[spoiler: The Creator lives and breathes this trope. It's plan to destroy the Blue Planet? It's all because humans didn't evolve to it's preference. Enslaving the Eidolons? Why, it's just a way to make the genocide faster and more efficient. As far as the Creator is concerned it's behavior is completely justified, as all other beings are inferior.]]
** [[spoiler: The Maenads also share this worldview, at first. However, they eventually change their minds, and sacrifice themselves to help party defeat the Creator.]]



** [[spoiler:Also, one of the mysterious girls survives and gets adopted by the heroes.]]

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** [[spoiler:Also, [[spoiler: Also, one of the mysterious girls survives and gets adopted by the heroes.]]
4th Sep '16 12:57:04 AM CharcoalRites
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* UnwantedRevival: [[spoiler: Several of the bosses on the True Moon apply, but particularly the Four Fiends and Edge's parents. They all had their bodies revived only to have their minds enslaved by the Creator. When defeated, they all express gratitude at finally being allowed to rest.]]
4th Sep '16 12:52:30 AM CharcoalRites
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* PeopleJars: [[spoiler:The Maenads]]

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* PeopleJars: [[spoiler:The Maenads]][[spoiler: Deep within the True Moon, several Maenads can be found incubating in various pods. Rydia and co. eventually discover the child Maenad inside one of these.]]
4th Sep '16 12:36:42 AM CharcoalRites
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* DataCrystal: [[spoiler: The Creator reveals that the true purpose of the Crystals is to record the entire history and evolution of the planet they are placed on.]]
4th Sep '16 12:32:27 AM CharcoalRites
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* CameFromTheSky: The Mysterious Girl arrives on the Blue Planet via a large meteor. [[spoiler:In the Lunarian's Tale, it turns out that some of her clones have accessed the moon in the same way.]]
2nd Sep '16 8:09:05 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* GenreSavvy: Edge, who realizes near the end of his chapter that [[spoiler:events are mimicking the previous game, and uses this as inspiration to take a LeapOfFaith.]]
** Edward as well--he delivers some flowers to Cecil and receives a gift in return. Cecil doesn't notice the flowers are Whisperweed, tipping Edward off that something is wrong, and giving him the ability to eavesdrop on Cecil's conversation with the Mysterious Girl about his plan to seize Damcyan's Crystal. Edward figures out from this that Cecil's gift is a Carnelian Signet, the item the King used in the original game to send Bombs to burn down Rydia's village. What does Edward do then? [[spoiler:He evacuates Damcyan, waits in the throne room for the Mysterious Girl's men to arrive (including Kain), then opens the box to unleash the Bombs on the soldiers.]] He may be spoony, but he isn't stupid.


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* TaughtByExperience: Edge, who realizes near the end of his chapter that [[spoiler:events are mimicking the previous game, and uses this as inspiration to take a LeapOfFaith.]]
** Edward as well--he delivers some flowers to Cecil and receives a gift in return. Cecil doesn't notice the flowers are Whisperweed, tipping Edward off that something is wrong, and giving him the ability to eavesdrop on Cecil's conversation with the Mysterious Girl about his plan to seize Damcyan's Crystal. Edward figures out from this that Cecil's gift is a Carnelian Signet, the item the King used in the original game to send Bombs to burn down Rydia's village. What does Edward do then? [[spoiler:He evacuates Damcyan, waits in the throne room for the Mysterious Girl's men to arrive (including Kain), then opens the box to unleash the Bombs on the soldiers.]]
18th Jul '16 6:25:02 AM Morgenthaler
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* DangerouslyGenreSavvy: The Mysterious Girl has shades of this during the fight with her and [[spoiler:Bahamut]]. People who have played ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyIV'' would think to [[spoiler:cast Reflect on their party to reflect Bahamut's Megaflare]], right? Only problem is, the Mysterious Girl uses "Black Hole" [[spoiler:just before Bahamut uses Megaflare]], which removes any status buffs from the party, ''[[spoiler:including Reflect]].'' Also counts as a WrongGenreSavvy on the player's part. When [[spoiler:Bahamut]] eventually turns on her, she tries to [[spoiler:cast Reflect on herself to boot, but Bahamut's [[CutscenePowerToTheMax cutscene power maxes out]] and he uses Mega Flare on her before she can complete the spell]].
** She also shows shades of this in her overall scheme. First thing she does as seen in the Lunarians' Tale is [[spoiler:head to the Red Moon and enslave Bahamut, the most powerful Summon there is, and uses him to conquer Baron, the strongest nation on Earth, and brainwash Cecil]]. She then uses Baron's airship fleet to collect a majority of the Crystals since hey, Cecil's TheHero, so many of his former allies that are the world's leaders and protect the Crystals are suspicious but ultimately trust him.[[note]]Look at Yang's Tale, his adviser warned him about Baron and Cecil but Yang trusted Cecil and didn't believe the adviser, and thus Fabul was on very short notice to defend itself when the Red Wings arrived.[[/note]] She also enslaves the other Eidolons, thereby depriving Rydia of her summons and giving herself an army of super-powered minions to help her with her task.
21st May '16 7:50:07 AM Zennistrad
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* {{Expy}}: Luca, the dwarven WrenchWench, seems suspiciously similar to [[VideoGame/ChronoTrigger another]] Creator/SquareEnix [[VideoGame/ChronoTrigger gadgeteer named Lucca]].
** Not exactly. Luca was in the original Final Fantasy IV which was made and released well before Chrono Trigger. To be fair, however, she just had the creepy dolls and none of the WrenchWench qualities at that point, so...

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* {{Expy}}: Luca, the Luca. While she was originally just a dwarven WrenchWench, seems princess with a few creepy dolls in VideoGame/FinalFantasyIV, she's since grown up to become a WrenchWench suspiciously similar to [[VideoGame/ChronoTrigger another]] Creator/SquareEnix [[VideoGame/ChronoTrigger gadgeteer named Lucca]].
** Not exactly. Luca was in the original Final Fantasy IV which was made and released well before Chrono Trigger. To be fair, however, she just had the creepy dolls and none of the WrenchWench qualities at that point, so...
Lucca]].
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