History VideoGame / FalloutVanBuren

2nd Jul '17 7:51:52 PM timotaka
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8th Dec '16 1:22:00 AM Xtifr
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'''''Fallout: Van Buren''''' was the original ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}''. Note that its name would have been "Fallout 3", and "Van Buren" was merely its development codename. It was in full 3D, but utilized a top-down perspective much like the old games. It was canceled shortly before Creator/{{Interplay|Entertainment}} went under in 2003 and closed Creator/{{Black Isle|Studios}}, even though it was around 85% done. Backlash ensued, and while some were pacified when Creator/{{Bethesda}} released ''Fallout 3'' five years later, others view Van Buren as the real and superior version of ''Fallout 3'' and are still venomously bitter about its cancellation. Despite the game being canceled, some elements of its story have been [[BroadStrokes adapted or directly incorporated]] into the ''Fallout'' canon.

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'''''Fallout: ''Fallout: Van Buren''''' Buren'' was the original ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}''. Note that its name would have been "Fallout 3", and "Van Buren" was merely its development codename. It was in full 3D, but utilized a top-down perspective much like the old games. It was canceled shortly before Creator/{{Interplay|Entertainment}} went under in 2003 and closed Creator/{{Black Isle|Studios}}, even though it was around 85% done. Backlash ensued, and while some were pacified when Creator/{{Bethesda}} released ''Fallout 3'' five years later, others view Van Buren as the real and superior version of ''Fallout 3'' and are still venomously bitter about its cancellation. Despite the game being canceled, some elements of its story have been [[BroadStrokes adapted or directly incorporated]] into the ''Fallout'' canon.
17th Nov '16 12:32:42 PM TheAmazingBlachman
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* TheAtoner: You would've chosen whether to be an actual criminal, and in [[CrapsackWorld this world]] that's saying something. If you'd been good oriented, you most likely would have been this.

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* TheAtoner: You would've chosen The player would have been offered the option to choose whether to be an actual criminal, criminal or not, and in [[CrapsackWorld this world]] that's saying something. If you'd been the player then leaned towards making good oriented, you oriented choices, they would most likely would have been this.



* CardboardPrison: Sure, the automated prison sends out robots to capture you back, but thanks to an in-universe case of ArtificialStupidity they would always throw you back into your old cell. You know, the one that continues to have a man-sized hole in the wall.

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* CardboardPrison: Sure, the automated prison sends out robots to capture you the PlayerCharacter back, but thanks to an in-universe case of ArtificialStupidity they would always throw you them back into your their old cell. You know, the one that continues to have a man-sized hole in the wall.



* InspectorJavert: The robots trying to take you back to prison. For all they know, you ''are'' a criminal. And there's a 50% chance you are for sure.

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* InspectorJavert: The robots trying to take you the player back to prison. For all they know, you the PlayerCharacter ''are'' a criminal. And there's a 50% chance you they are for sure.



* ThePlague: The New Plague of which you were an unwitting carrier, as a part of Victor's plan to activate B.O.M.B.-001. You would first discover this fact late in the story, as people in the settlements you have visited start dying left and right. With a high enough intelligence and science skill, you would have been able to synthesize a cure too.

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* ThePlague: The New Plague of which you the player were an unwitting carrier, as a part of Victor's plan to activate B.O.M.B.-001. You This would be first discover this fact discovered late in the story, as people in the settlements you have the player had visited start dying left and right. With a high enough intelligence and science skill, you the player would have been able to synthesize a cure too.



* TokenEvilTeammate: The Hanged Man, a ChaoticEvil ImplacableMan who you'd find [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin hanging on the end of a rope]], but still alive. He turns out to be an infamous criminal whom people have tried to kill numerous times. As a party member he would be appropriately MadeOfIron, but his company would cause people to despise you almost universally.
* TalkingTheMonsterToDeath: It would have been possible to convince Victor to abandon his plan. But since he was the most brilliant mind to ever come out of the NCR, you would need at least 10 in intelligence and a high science skill to do so. Talking his partners in crime into betraying him, however, would not be quite as hard.
* YouAreTooLate: After causing Victor's defeat, you would move on to deactivate B.O.M.B.-001, only to make a grim discovery. While you would have able to call off the majority of the nuclear bombardment, depending on your repair skill, some nukes could not be recalled, and you would have been left with the options to blow up B.O.M.B.-001, performing a HeroicSacrifice in the process, or choose which settlements that should be struck by the attack. In choosing the latter, you would have left B.O.M.B.-001 in an escape pod, and "I Don't Want To Set The World on Fire" would started playing while nuclear blasts dotted the earth's surface.

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* TokenEvilTeammate: The Hanged Man, a ChaoticEvil ImplacableMan who you'd find [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin hanging on the end of a rope]], but still alive. He turns out to be an infamous criminal whom people have tried to kill numerous times. As a party member he would be appropriately MadeOfIron, but his company would cause people to despise you the player almost universally.
* TalkingTheMonsterToDeath: It would have been possible to convince Victor to abandon his plan. But since he was the most brilliant mind to ever come out of the NCR, you the player would need at least 10 in intelligence and a high science skill to do so. Talking his partners in crime into betraying him, however, would not be quite as hard.
* YouAreTooLate: After causing Victor's defeat, you the player would move on to deactivate B.O.M.B.-001, only to make a grim discovery. While you the player would have able to call off the majority of the nuclear bombardment, depending on your their repair skill, some nukes could not be recalled, and you they would have been left with the options to blow up B.O.M.B.-001, performing a HeroicSacrifice in the process, or choose which settlements that should be struck by the attack. In choosing the latter, you the player would have left B.O.M.B.-001 in an escape pod, and "I Don't Want To Set The World on Fire" would started playing while nuclear blasts dotted the earth's surface.
7th Oct '16 12:46:42 PM frogpatrol
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'''Fallout: Van Buren''' was the original ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}''. Note that its name would have been "Fallout 3", and "Van Buren" was merely its development codename. It was in full 3D, but with a top-down perspective much like the old games. It was canceled shortly before Creator/{{Interplay|Entertainment}} went under in 2003 and closed Creator/{{Black Isle|Studios}}, even though it was around 85% done. Backlash ensued, and while some were pacified when Creator/{{Bethesda}} released ''Fallout 3'' five years later, others view Van Buren as the real and superior version of ''Fallout 3'' and are still venomously bitter about its cancellation. Despite the game being canceled, some elements of its story have been [[BroadStrokes adapted or directly incorporated]] into the ''Fallout'' canon.

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'''Fallout: '''''Fallout: Van Buren''' Buren''''' was the original ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}''. Note that its name would have been "Fallout 3", and "Van Buren" was merely its development codename. It was in full 3D, but with utilized a top-down perspective much like the old games. It was canceled shortly before Creator/{{Interplay|Entertainment}} went under in 2003 and closed Creator/{{Black Isle|Studios}}, even though it was around 85% done. Backlash ensued, and while some were pacified when Creator/{{Bethesda}} released ''Fallout 3'' five years later, others view Van Buren as the real and superior version of ''Fallout 3'' and are still venomously bitter about its cancellation. Despite the game being canceled, some elements of its story have been [[BroadStrokes adapted or directly incorporated]] into the ''Fallout'' canon.
25th Sep '16 1:52:05 PM Wercury
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* TokenEvilTeammate: The Hanged Man, an AlwaysChaoticEvil ImplacableMan who you'd find [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin hanging on the end of a rope]], but still alive. He turns out to be an infamous criminal whom people have tried to kill numerous times. As a party member he would be appropriately MadeOfIron, but his company would cause people to despise you almost universally.

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* TokenEvilTeammate: The Hanged Man, an AlwaysChaoticEvil a ChaoticEvil ImplacableMan who you'd find [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin hanging on the end of a rope]], but still alive. He turns out to be an infamous criminal whom people have tried to kill numerous times. As a party member he would be appropriately MadeOfIron, but his company would cause people to despise you almost universally.
7th Dec '15 3:35:54 PM Berrenta
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'''Fallout: Van Buren''' was the original ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}''. Note that its name would have been "Fallout 3", and "Van Buren" was merely its development codename. It was in full 3D, but with a top-down perspective much like the old games. It was canceled shortly before Creator/{{Interplay|Entertainment}} went under in 2003 and closed Creator/{{Black Isle|Studios}}, even though it was around 85% done. InternetBacklash ensued, and while some were pacified when Creator/{{Bethesda}} released ''Fallout 3'' five years later, others view Van Buren as the real and superior version of ''Fallout 3'' and are still venomously bitter about its cancellation. Despite the game being canceled, some elements of its story have been [[BroadStrokes adapted or directly incorporated]] into the ''Fallout'' canon.

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'''Fallout: Van Buren''' was the original ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}''. Note that its name would have been "Fallout 3", and "Van Buren" was merely its development codename. It was in full 3D, but with a top-down perspective much like the old games. It was canceled shortly before Creator/{{Interplay|Entertainment}} went under in 2003 and closed Creator/{{Black Isle|Studios}}, even though it was around 85% done. InternetBacklash Backlash ensued, and while some were pacified when Creator/{{Bethesda}} released ''Fallout 3'' five years later, others view Van Buren as the real and superior version of ''Fallout 3'' and are still venomously bitter about its cancellation. Despite the game being canceled, some elements of its story have been [[BroadStrokes adapted or directly incorporated]] into the ''Fallout'' canon.
5th Dec '15 9:15:16 AM NTC3
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''Fallout: Van Buren'' was the original ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}''. Note that its name would have been "Fallout 3", and "Van Buren" was merely its development codename. It was in full 3D, but with a top-down perspective much like the old games. It was canceled shortly before Creator/{{Interplay|Entertainment}} went under in 2003 and closed Creator/{{Black Isle|Studios}}, even though it was around 85% done. InternetBacklash ensued, and while some were pacified when Creator/{{Bethesda}} released ''Fallout 3'' five years later, others view Van Buren as the real and superior version of ''Fallout 3'' and are still venomously bitter about its cancellation. Despite the game being canceled, some elements of its story have been [[BroadStrokes adapted or directly incorporated]] into the ''Fallout'' canon.

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''Fallout: [[quoteright:350:http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/fallout_van_buren_peak.png]]
[[caption-width-right:350:As close to a cover as it'll ever get...]]
'''Fallout:
Van Buren'' Buren''' was the original ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}''. Note that its name would have been "Fallout 3", and "Van Buren" was merely its development codename. It was in full 3D, but with a top-down perspective much like the old games. It was canceled shortly before Creator/{{Interplay|Entertainment}} went under in 2003 and closed Creator/{{Black Isle|Studios}}, even though it was around 85% done. InternetBacklash ensued, and while some were pacified when Creator/{{Bethesda}} released ''Fallout 3'' five years later, others view Van Buren as the real and superior version of ''Fallout 3'' and are still venomously bitter about its cancellation. Despite the game being canceled, some elements of its story have been [[BroadStrokes adapted or directly incorporated]] into the ''Fallout'' canon.
1st Dec '15 10:49:59 PM TheRedRedKroovy
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''Fallout: Van Buren'' was the original ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}''. Note that its name would have been "Fallout 3," and only its development codename was "Van Buren." It was in full 3D, but with a topdown perspective much like the old games. It was canceled shortly before Creator/{{Interplay|Entertainment}} went under in 2003 and closed Creator/{{Black Isle|Studios}}, even though it was around 85% done. InternetBacklash ensued, and while some were pacified when Creator/{{Bethesda}} released ''Fallout 3'' five years later, others view Van Buren as the real and superior version of ''Fallout 3'' and are still venomously bitter about its cancellation. Despite the game being canceled, some elements of its story have been [[BroadStrokes adapted or directly incorporated into the Fallout canon]].

Prison may not be [[RunningGag an okay place to live]], but Tibbets Facility, cell number [[MythologyGag thirteen]] is home. The technology dates back to before the great war, and plenty of robots are there to look after you. You've been there so long you can hardly remember why; perhaps you were guilty of whatever crime they've convicted you of, or perhaps not, but it doesn't matter either way. At least you're alive, and outside, things aren't safe.

Then, one day, you wake up to find things have changed. Not only are you in a completely different prison, but there's a rather large hole in the wall, which you proceed to walk out of. Back in Post-Apocalyptic Arizona, you find yourself besieged by robots wanting to take you back to your cell, strange diseases infecting select towns, a war between the NCR and Brotherhood of Steel, a strange slaver army called ''Caesar's Legion'' that seems obsessed with ancient Rome, led by a maniac who calls himself Caesar, and a menacing figure named Doctor Victor Presper who wishes to instigate another nuclear holocaust on the world.

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''Fallout: Van Buren'' was the original ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}''. Note that its name would have been "Fallout 3," 3", and only "Van Buren" was merely its development codename was "Van Buren." codename. It was in full 3D, but with a topdown top-down perspective much like the old games. It was canceled shortly before Creator/{{Interplay|Entertainment}} went under in 2003 and closed Creator/{{Black Isle|Studios}}, even though it was around 85% done. InternetBacklash ensued, and while some were pacified when Creator/{{Bethesda}} released ''Fallout 3'' five years later, others view Van Buren as the real and superior version of ''Fallout 3'' and are still venomously bitter about its cancellation. Despite the game being canceled, some elements of its story have been [[BroadStrokes adapted or directly incorporated incorporated]] into the Fallout canon]].

''Fallout'' canon.

Prison may not be [[RunningGag an okay place to live]], but Tibbets Facility, cell number [[MythologyGag thirteen]] thirteen]], is home. The technology dates back to before the great war, Great War, and plenty of robots are there to look after you. You've been there so long you can hardly remember why; perhaps you were guilty of whatever crime they've convicted you of, or perhaps not, but it doesn't matter either way. At least you're alive, and outside, things aren't safe.

Then, one day, you wake up to find things have changed. Not only are you in a completely different prison, but there's a rather large hole in the wall, which you proceed to walk out of. Back in Post-Apocalyptic Arizona, you find yourself besieged by robots wanting to take you back to your cell, strange diseases infecting select towns, a war between the NCR and Brotherhood of Steel, a strange slaver army called ''Caesar's Legion'' "Caesar's Legion" that seems obsessed with ancient Rome, Rome and led by a maniac who calls himself Caesar, and a menacing figure named Doctor Victor Presper who wishes to instigate another nuclear holocaust on the world.



''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas'', which takes place in one of the areas this game would have covered, has a completely original story, but draws on the enormous amount of design done for Van Buren and select elements (such as Caesar's Legion and The Hanged Man, now The Burned Man) do appear in the game. It helps that many of the same people worked on both games.

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''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas'', which takes place in one of the areas this game would have covered, has a completely original story, but draws on the enormous amount of design done for Van Buren ''Van Buren'' and select elements (such as Caesar's Legion and The Hanged Man, now The Burned Man) do appear in the game. It helps that Creator/ObsidianEntertainment, the developer of ''New Vegas'', was founded by many of the same people worked on both games.
former Black Isle staff, including Creator/ChrisAvellone.



* BroadStrokes: It's implied the events of this game ''did'' end up happening in some form or another, but the extent to which will likely never be revealed. Most of the game's concepts went into VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas, including several characters, but none of them directly mention the events of this game.

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* BroadStrokes: It's implied the events of this game ''did'' end up happening in some form or another, but the extent to which will likely never be revealed. Most of the game's concepts went into VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas, ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas'', including several characters, but none of them directly mention the events of this game.



** [[TearJerker So he never found her..]]
* TheEmpire: The Brotherhood of Steel has transformed from an isolationist but peaceful faction in a group of fascists that attack anyone they consider to be 'unworthy' of having advance technology.

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** [[TearJerker So he never found her..her.]]
* TheEmpire: The Brotherhood of Steel has transformed from an isolationist but peaceful faction in into a group of fascists that attack anyone they consider to be 'unworthy' of having advance advanced technology.



* ShroudedInMyth: By the time of VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas, the events of the game have become this, like all the other games before it.

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* ShroudedInMyth: By the time of VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas, ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas'', the events of the game have become this, like all the other games before it.
9th Nov '15 10:07:32 AM TheAmazingBlachman
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And in case you were wondering: The game had absolutely nothing to do with USA's 8th president, UsefulNotes/MartinVanBuren. Interplay just code named projects in development after American presidents out of ease. Nor does this have anything to do with the obscure [[VanBeurenStudios Van Beuren Cartoon Studio.]]

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And in case you were wondering: "Van Buren" was a WorkingTitle. The game had absolutely nothing to do with USA's 8th president, UsefulNotes/MartinVanBuren. Interplay just code named projects in development after American presidents out of ease. Nor does this have anything to do with the obscure [[VanBeurenStudios Van Beuren Cartoon Studio.]]
7th Oct '15 12:20:24 AM timotaka
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* CardBoardPrison: Sure, the automated prison sends out robots to capture you back, but thanks to an in-universe case of ArtificialStupidity they would always throw you back into your old cell. You know, the one that continues to have a man-sized hole in the wall.

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* CardBoardPrison: CardboardPrison: Sure, the automated prison sends out robots to capture you back, but thanks to an in-universe case of ArtificialStupidity they would always throw you back into your old cell. You know, the one that continues to have a man-sized hole in the wall.
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