History VideoGame / FalloutVanBuren

7th Dec '15 3:35:54 PM Berrenta
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'''Fallout: Van Buren''' was the original ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}''. Note that its name would have been "Fallout 3", and "Van Buren" was merely its development codename. It was in full 3D, but with a top-down perspective much like the old games. It was canceled shortly before Creator/{{Interplay|Entertainment}} went under in 2003 and closed Creator/{{Black Isle|Studios}}, even though it was around 85% done. InternetBacklash ensued, and while some were pacified when Creator/{{Bethesda}} released ''Fallout 3'' five years later, others view Van Buren as the real and superior version of ''Fallout 3'' and are still venomously bitter about its cancellation. Despite the game being canceled, some elements of its story have been [[BroadStrokes adapted or directly incorporated]] into the ''Fallout'' canon.

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'''Fallout: Van Buren''' was the original ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}''. Note that its name would have been "Fallout 3", and "Van Buren" was merely its development codename. It was in full 3D, but with a top-down perspective much like the old games. It was canceled shortly before Creator/{{Interplay|Entertainment}} went under in 2003 and closed Creator/{{Black Isle|Studios}}, even though it was around 85% done. InternetBacklash Backlash ensued, and while some were pacified when Creator/{{Bethesda}} released ''Fallout 3'' five years later, others view Van Buren as the real and superior version of ''Fallout 3'' and are still venomously bitter about its cancellation. Despite the game being canceled, some elements of its story have been [[BroadStrokes adapted or directly incorporated]] into the ''Fallout'' canon.
5th Dec '15 9:15:16 AM NTC3
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''Fallout: Van Buren'' was the original ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}''. Note that its name would have been "Fallout 3", and "Van Buren" was merely its development codename. It was in full 3D, but with a top-down perspective much like the old games. It was canceled shortly before Creator/{{Interplay|Entertainment}} went under in 2003 and closed Creator/{{Black Isle|Studios}}, even though it was around 85% done. InternetBacklash ensued, and while some were pacified when Creator/{{Bethesda}} released ''Fallout 3'' five years later, others view Van Buren as the real and superior version of ''Fallout 3'' and are still venomously bitter about its cancellation. Despite the game being canceled, some elements of its story have been [[BroadStrokes adapted or directly incorporated]] into the ''Fallout'' canon.

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''Fallout: [[quoteright:350:http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/fallout_van_buren_peak.png]]
[[caption-width-right:350:As close to a cover as it'll ever get...]]
'''Fallout:
Van Buren'' Buren''' was the original ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}''. Note that its name would have been "Fallout 3", and "Van Buren" was merely its development codename. It was in full 3D, but with a top-down perspective much like the old games. It was canceled shortly before Creator/{{Interplay|Entertainment}} went under in 2003 and closed Creator/{{Black Isle|Studios}}, even though it was around 85% done. InternetBacklash ensued, and while some were pacified when Creator/{{Bethesda}} released ''Fallout 3'' five years later, others view Van Buren as the real and superior version of ''Fallout 3'' and are still venomously bitter about its cancellation. Despite the game being canceled, some elements of its story have been [[BroadStrokes adapted or directly incorporated]] into the ''Fallout'' canon.
1st Dec '15 10:49:59 PM TheRedRedKroovy
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''Fallout: Van Buren'' was the original ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}''. Note that its name would have been "Fallout 3," and only its development codename was "Van Buren." It was in full 3D, but with a topdown perspective much like the old games. It was canceled shortly before Creator/{{Interplay|Entertainment}} went under in 2003 and closed Creator/{{Black Isle|Studios}}, even though it was around 85% done. InternetBacklash ensued, and while some were pacified when Creator/{{Bethesda}} released ''Fallout 3'' five years later, others view Van Buren as the real and superior version of ''Fallout 3'' and are still venomously bitter about its cancellation. Despite the game being canceled, some elements of its story have been [[BroadStrokes adapted or directly incorporated into the Fallout canon]].

Prison may not be [[RunningGag an okay place to live]], but Tibbets Facility, cell number [[MythologyGag thirteen]] is home. The technology dates back to before the great war, and plenty of robots are there to look after you. You've been there so long you can hardly remember why; perhaps you were guilty of whatever crime they've convicted you of, or perhaps not, but it doesn't matter either way. At least you're alive, and outside, things aren't safe.

Then, one day, you wake up to find things have changed. Not only are you in a completely different prison, but there's a rather large hole in the wall, which you proceed to walk out of. Back in Post-Apocalyptic Arizona, you find yourself besieged by robots wanting to take you back to your cell, strange diseases infecting select towns, a war between the NCR and Brotherhood of Steel, a strange slaver army called ''Caesar's Legion'' that seems obsessed with ancient Rome, led by a maniac who calls himself Caesar, and a menacing figure named Doctor Victor Presper who wishes to instigate another nuclear holocaust on the world.

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''Fallout: Van Buren'' was the original ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}''. Note that its name would have been "Fallout 3," 3", and only "Van Buren" was merely its development codename was "Van Buren." codename. It was in full 3D, but with a topdown top-down perspective much like the old games. It was canceled shortly before Creator/{{Interplay|Entertainment}} went under in 2003 and closed Creator/{{Black Isle|Studios}}, even though it was around 85% done. InternetBacklash ensued, and while some were pacified when Creator/{{Bethesda}} released ''Fallout 3'' five years later, others view Van Buren as the real and superior version of ''Fallout 3'' and are still venomously bitter about its cancellation. Despite the game being canceled, some elements of its story have been [[BroadStrokes adapted or directly incorporated incorporated]] into the Fallout canon]].

''Fallout'' canon.

Prison may not be [[RunningGag an okay place to live]], but Tibbets Facility, cell number [[MythologyGag thirteen]] thirteen]], is home. The technology dates back to before the great war, Great War, and plenty of robots are there to look after you. You've been there so long you can hardly remember why; perhaps you were guilty of whatever crime they've convicted you of, or perhaps not, but it doesn't matter either way. At least you're alive, and outside, things aren't safe.

Then, one day, you wake up to find things have changed. Not only are you in a completely different prison, but there's a rather large hole in the wall, which you proceed to walk out of. Back in Post-Apocalyptic Arizona, you find yourself besieged by robots wanting to take you back to your cell, strange diseases infecting select towns, a war between the NCR and Brotherhood of Steel, a strange slaver army called ''Caesar's Legion'' "Caesar's Legion" that seems obsessed with ancient Rome, Rome and led by a maniac who calls himself Caesar, and a menacing figure named Doctor Victor Presper who wishes to instigate another nuclear holocaust on the world.



''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas'', which takes place in one of the areas this game would have covered, has a completely original story, but draws on the enormous amount of design done for Van Buren and select elements (such as Caesar's Legion and The Hanged Man, now The Burned Man) do appear in the game. It helps that many of the same people worked on both games.

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''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas'', which takes place in one of the areas this game would have covered, has a completely original story, but draws on the enormous amount of design done for Van Buren ''Van Buren'' and select elements (such as Caesar's Legion and The Hanged Man, now The Burned Man) do appear in the game. It helps that Creator/ObsidianEntertainment, the developer of ''New Vegas'', was founded by many of the same people worked on both games.
former Black Isle staff, including Creator/ChrisAvellone.



* BroadStrokes: It's implied the events of this game ''did'' end up happening in some form or another, but the extent to which will likely never be revealed. Most of the game's concepts went into VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas, including several characters, but none of them directly mention the events of this game.

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* BroadStrokes: It's implied the events of this game ''did'' end up happening in some form or another, but the extent to which will likely never be revealed. Most of the game's concepts went into VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas, ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas'', including several characters, but none of them directly mention the events of this game.



** [[TearJerker So he never found her..]]
* TheEmpire: The Brotherhood of Steel has transformed from an isolationist but peaceful faction in a group of fascists that attack anyone they consider to be 'unworthy' of having advance technology.

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** [[TearJerker So he never found her..her.]]
* TheEmpire: The Brotherhood of Steel has transformed from an isolationist but peaceful faction in into a group of fascists that attack anyone they consider to be 'unworthy' of having advance advanced technology.



* ShroudedInMyth: By the time of VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas, the events of the game have become this, like all the other games before it.

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* ShroudedInMyth: By the time of VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas, ''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas'', the events of the game have become this, like all the other games before it.
9th Nov '15 10:07:32 AM TheAmazingBlachman
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And in case you were wondering: The game had absolutely nothing to do with USA's 8th president, UsefulNotes/MartinVanBuren. Interplay just code named projects in development after American presidents out of ease. Nor does this have anything to do with the obscure [[VanBeurenStudios Van Beuren Cartoon Studio.]]

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And in case you were wondering: "Van Buren" was a WorkingTitle. The game had absolutely nothing to do with USA's 8th president, UsefulNotes/MartinVanBuren. Interplay just code named projects in development after American presidents out of ease. Nor does this have anything to do with the obscure [[VanBeurenStudios Van Beuren Cartoon Studio.]]
7th Oct '15 12:20:24 AM timotaka
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* CardBoardPrison: Sure, the automated prison sends out robots to capture you back, but thanks to an in-universe case of ArtificialStupidity they would always throw you back into your old cell. You know, the one that continues to have a man-sized hole in the wall.

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* CardBoardPrison: CardboardPrison: Sure, the automated prison sends out robots to capture you back, but thanks to an in-universe case of ArtificialStupidity they would always throw you back into your old cell. You know, the one that continues to have a man-sized hole in the wall.
7th Oct '15 12:19:58 AM timotaka
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* CardBoardPrison: Sure, the automated prison sends out robots to capture you back, but thanks to an in-universe case of ArtificialStupidity they would always throw you back into your old cell. You know, the one that continues to have a man-sized hole in the wall.
7th Oct '15 12:12:40 AM timotaka
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* TokenEvilTeammate: The Hanged Man, an AlwaysChaoticEvil ImplacableMan who Caesar's Legion tried to execute via RasputinianDeath. They failed. If you talked to Mordecai in New Canaan, you'd find out he was [[spoiler:Joshua Graham, Caesar's second in command. According to New Vegas, he was punished for failing the first battle of Hoover Dam.]]
** [[VillainDecay Villain Softening]]: [[VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas Three months later]], he's cooled down a bit, [[spoiler:due to the destruction of New Canaan and a newfound religious fervor.]]

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* TokenEvilTeammate: The Hanged Man, an AlwaysChaoticEvil ImplacableMan who Caesar's Legion tried to execute via RasputinianDeath. They failed. If you talked to Mordecai in New Canaan, you'd find [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin hanging on the end of a rope]], but still alive. He turns out to be an infamous criminal whom people have tried to kill numerous times. As a party member he was [[spoiler:Joshua Graham, Caesar's second in command. According would be appropriately MadeOfIron, but his company would cause people to New Vegas, he was punished for failing the first battle of Hoover Dam.]]
** [[VillainDecay Villain Softening]]: [[VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas Three months later]], he's cooled down a bit, [[spoiler:due to the destruction of New Canaan and a newfound religious fervor.]]
despise you almost universally.
6th Oct '15 11:54:12 PM timotaka
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''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas'', which takes place in one of the areas this game would have covered, has a completely original story, but draws on the enormous amount of design done for Van Buren and select elements (such as Caesar's Legion and The Hanged Man, now The Burned Man) do appear in the game.

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''VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas'', which takes place in one of the areas this game would have covered, has a completely original story, but draws on the enormous amount of design done for Van Buren and select elements (such as Caesar's Legion and The Hanged Man, now The Burned Man) do appear in the game. \n It helps that many of the same people worked on both games.
14th Jun '15 8:52:20 PM Dirtyblue929
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''Fallout: Van Buren'' was the original ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}''. Note that its name would have been "Fallout 3," and only its development codename was "Van Buren." It was in full 3D, but with a topdown perspective much like the old games. It was canceled when Creator/{{Interplay|Entertainment}} went under in 2003 and closed Creator/{{Black Isle|Studios}}, even though it was around 85% done. InternetBacklash ensued, and while some were pacified when Creator/{{Bethesda}} released ''Fallout 3'' five years later, others view Van Buren as the real and superior version of ''Fallout 3'' and are still venomously bitter about its cancellation. Despite the game being canceled, some elements of its story have been [[BroadStrokes adapted or directly incorporated into the Fallout canon]].

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''Fallout: Van Buren'' was the original ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 3}}''. Note that its name would have been "Fallout 3," and only its development codename was "Van Buren." It was in full 3D, but with a topdown perspective much like the old games. It was canceled when shortly before Creator/{{Interplay|Entertainment}} went under in 2003 and closed Creator/{{Black Isle|Studios}}, even though it was around 85% done. InternetBacklash ensued, and while some were pacified when Creator/{{Bethesda}} released ''Fallout 3'' five years later, others view Van Buren as the real and superior version of ''Fallout 3'' and are still venomously bitter about its cancellation. Despite the game being canceled, some elements of its story have been [[BroadStrokes adapted or directly incorporated into the Fallout canon]].
28th May '15 7:19:24 AM googlop
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* BroadStrokes: It's implied the events of this game ''did'' end up happening in some form or another, but the extent to which will likely never be revealed. Most of the game's concepts went into VideoGame/FalloutNewVegas, including several characters, but none of them directly mention the events of this game.
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