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* GuysSmashGirlsShoot: Inverted with [[DropTheHammer Sister Hannah]] and [[TheGunslinger Reaver]].

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* GuysSmashGirlsShoot: Inverted with [[DropTheHammer Sister Hannah]] Hannah and [[TheGunslinger Reaver]].
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* GunpowderFantasy: The second game moves away from the Medieval setting, with many characters using firearms.

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* GunpowderFantasy: The second game moves away from the Medieval setting, with many characters using firearms. This revolution lead to the downfall of the Heroes Guild and its magic users.
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** The benefits of one option can also be reduced by waiting until you've completed the story before [[spoiler: having a family. Lucien can't kill a family ''you don't have'', and nothing stops you having one when you've finished saving the world]].

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** The benefits of one option can also be reduced by waiting until you've completed the story before [[spoiler: having a family. Lucien can't kill a family ''you don't have'', and nothing stops you having one when you've finished saving the world]].world. Additionally, with the Knothole Island DLC, you can bring back your beloved dog.]]
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* BlackAndWhiteInsanity: The morality system itself can result in this, either by declaring complicated situations as "good" and "evil", or forcing choices that are in no way reasonable.
** Following orders at the Spire is always considered "evil". It is true that some by themselves ''would'' be evil if you had moral agency and were responsible for them. However, you have infiltrated the area as part of a rescue mission and plan to stop the BigBad, and need to maintain trust. Several of the "good" actions would have ''no positive outcome'' and in reality result in you being immediately imprisoned, tortured, and killed. The only reason this doesn't happen is... uh, because [[PlotArmor the game doesn't do it]] (but will to anyone else who disobeys)? An analogy here would be an undercover agent who doesn't immediately single-handedly try to arrest the mob boss being declared as "evil".
** Sacrificing [[spoiler: your youth]] instead of letting someone else innocent suffer (who was also dragged into the situation without your involvement) is considered "good". Despite you fighting to save the world and all that, which logically this would severely weaken you and greatly reduce your chances of success. Theresa's comments even highlight that this is not a simple good/bad decision, but the morality system railroads you into it anyway.

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* LeeroyJenkins: Rose gets a moment of this. When you're walking through an alleyway, a dog yelping is heard. Cue Rose rushing right up to its tormentor to challenge him, hands on hips... only to get promptly knocked out by a head butt, leaving you, her much smaller but thankfully [[CuteBruiser surprisingly tough]] sibling to take the bully down. She gets up and, of course, promptly says "Thanks! I could've taken him though..." in true Leeroy style. It does illustrate the fact that while Rose is trying to be a responsible adult figure, she's still just a kid herself.

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* LeeroyJenkins: Rose gets a moment of this. When you're walking through an alleyway, a dog yelping is heard. Cue Rose rushing right up to its tormentor to challenge him, hands on hips... only to get promptly knocked out by a head butt, leaving you, her much smaller but thankfully [[CuteBruiser surprisingly tough]] sibling to take the bully down. She gets up and, of course, promptly says "Thanks! I could've taken him though..." in true Leeroy style. It does illustrate the fact that while Rose is trying to be a responsible adult figure, she's still just a kid herself. Also {{Foreshadowing}} events shortly later on what happens when you are ''not'' the protagonist of a story.


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** The benefits of one option can also be reduced by waiting until you've completed the story before [[spoiler: having a family. Lucien can't kill a family ''you don't have'', and nothing stops you having one when you've finished saving the world]].
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* ObviousBeta: On launch, the game lacked much of the promised multiplayer support, though a patch was available to add much of it. More serious are the instabilities and bugged quests that can make the game unbeatable, of which Lionhead has presently acknowledged two serious ones.
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* PureIsNotGood: Purity is a separate meter to morality. It's possible to be Good but Corrupt (the game calls you TheHedonist) and [[StraightEdgeEvil Evil but Pure]], where your character will be called "The Fanatic" and have [[EvilIsSexy high attractiveness]], red eyes, pale skin and black hair.

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* PureIsNotGood: Purity is a separate meter to morality. It's possible to be Good but Corrupt (the game calls you TheHedonist) and [[StraightEdgeEvil Evil but Pure]], where your character will be called "The Fanatic" and have [[EvilIsSexy high attractiveness]], attractiveness, red eyes, pale skin and black hair.

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* EvilIsSexy: Any evil hero with a high attractiveness rating. An Evil/Pure hero automatically gets high attractiveness from their Purity stat.


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* GunpowderFantasy: The second game moves away from the Medieval setting, with many characters using firearms.
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* ArtisticLicenseChemistry: FlavorText for the poisonberry wine (the 1-star level wine) says it can potentially cause blindness. Alcohol-induced blindness [[note]]Excessive, long-term alcohol consumption can also lead to blindess through various physiological means[[/note]] typically result from methanol (wood alcohol) poisoning, and it's extremely unlikely for dangerous levels of methanol to make their way into wine, meaning the poisonberry wine [[EpicFail really]] is that poorly made.


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** The Gutter Beer (2-star beer):
--> "This low-quality beer will coat your mouth with a bitter sheen of sadness. Best imbibed only after following several other drinks or a swift blow to the head."


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** PlayedForLaughs with the FlavorText for some items (generally the cheap ones). The poisonberry wine causes the [[AgonyOfTheFeet feet]] of those who trample the poisonberries to turn green and fall off, and it can cause [[EyeScream blindness]]. The Yellow Fairy, a GargleBlaster, is named as such because it can turn skin yellow from liver damage. The Beggar's ring (the 1 star wedding-ring) can cause [[{{Fingore}} fingers to rot]]. The rumours that the rusty necklace can cause neck gangrene and causes heads to fall off are "mostly unfounded". The rancid blueberry pie is so sour it can [[TheToothHurts dissolve teeth]].
** PlayedStraight with the [[TheDragon Commandant]], a SuperPrototype for the Spire Soldiers, who has shards of the same material the Spire is built off embedded on his skeleton and piercing his skin.


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** The description for several foods and drinks list various effects that can't happen to you, for instance the poisonberry stew is said to cause blindness, and


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* OurProductSucks: The Nasty Nuts (1-star peanuts): "The Nasty brand of nuts is [[AtLeastIAdmitIt at least]] upfront about its singularly disgusting, and only barely nutty, product."


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** Bowerstone Old Town, if you give the arrest warrants to Arfur.


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* TakenForGranite: One of the possible fates of people you sacrifice to the Temple of Shadows.

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* EvilIsSexy: Any evil hero with a high attractiveness rating. An Evil/Pure hero automatically gets high attractiveness from their Purity stat.



** Lorewise, the [[FirearmsAreRevolutionary introduction of flintlock guns]] enabled the ordinary people of Albion to rise up and destroy the Guild and kill all Heroes. In game however you can shrug off several bullets from bandits and still mow through them.



* GunsDoNotWorkThatWay: The firearms are meant to emulate real firearms from the 18th century (even the Turret guns, which are based on pepperbox revolvers), except from the entirely fictional "[[{{Clockpunk}} Clockwork]]" firearms, though they behave more like breech-loading, cartridge-firing guns rather than the muzzle-loading guns they're supposed to be. See AcceptableBreaksFromReality above. [[Administrivia/TropesAreTools Of course]], this makes the Skill discipline much more viable and fun.



* PureIsNotGood: Purity is a separate meter to morality. It's possible to be Good but Corrupt (the game calls you TheHedonist) and [[StraightEdgeEvil Evil but Pure]], where your character will be called "The Fanatic" and have [[EvilIsSexy high attractiveness]], red eyes, pale skin and black hair.



* StraightEdgeEvil: Any [[PureIsNotGood Evil/Pure]] hero will be this, since purity/corruption is tied to abstaining from sex outside marriage, [[TheTeetotaler abstaining from alcohol]], following a vegetarian diet [[note]]Since no animal was harmed to feed you[[/note]] and [[PetTheDog charging low rent]].



* SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome: What happened to the Heroes Guild between Fable 1 and Fable 2. You know all the evil actions you could do in Fable 1 and get away with? It turns out that when [[FirearmsAreRevolutionary firearms]] came into play the people of Albion didn't put up with the shit Heroes used to get away with and massacred them all.



* ToiletHumour: The game is ''full'' of it. The Hero can fart and belch on command, and it's used to entertain people.

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* ToiletHumour: The game is ''full'' of it. The Hero can fart and belch on command, and it's used to entertain people. You can also "fail" the fart expression and outright shit your pants.
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* AcceptableBreaksFromReality: Firearms in the game behave more like modern breechloading, cartridge-firing firearms than actual firearms from the 18th century that the game world (roughly) emulates, to say nothing of the entirely fictional "[[{{Clockpunk}} clockwork]]" pistols/rifles which are magazine-fed semi-automatics in all but name. However a real muzzle-loading firearm would have a fire rate of about 4 shots per minute (even fewer if the gun's barrel is rifled for extra accuracy), making them unviable in gameplay. [[note]]Muzzle-loaded guns with rifled barrels were much more accurate, but required bullets tightly fitted to the gun's barrel to benefit from this accuracy. This meant that reloading them involved ramming the bullet down the barrel, after putting powder and a wad down first. For this reason they were relegated to hunting weapons (where you only get one shot and want to make it count) or sharpshooters. Military guns were almost always smoothbore, meaning they were very inaccurate, so they were fired in volleys by lines of infantry where individual accuracy did not matter but reloading speed was important.[[/note]].
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* StupidEvil: Many evil choices end up being this. For instance, in the prologue, if you give the arrest warrants to Arfur (a criminal) instead of Derek (a guard) the Bowerstone Old Town district will become a rundown slum with only one general store and one tattoo stall, while giving it to Derek will create a prosperous neighborhood with much more economic diversity. But the kicker has to be the quest "Oakfield Massacre", where you side with the [[ReligionOfEvil Temple of Shadows]] to massacre the idyllic farming village of [[{{Arcadia}} Oakfield]] and the [[SaintlyChurch Temple of Light]]. If you do this you will permanently tank Oakfield's economy, while doing the opposite quest of protecting Oakfield from the Temple of Shadows result in Oakfield's economy booming, with more houses being built (which be bought and rented for profit). Both quests give you no real reward other than renown, which can be earned in other ways. There is simply no reason to do Oakfield Massacre other than to be a dick.
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*WhatYouAreIntheDark: Played with in the final choice. After defeating Lucian you are whisked away by Theresa to be granted a wish by the Spire. None of your companions are brought with you to provide council towards one decision or another, it's entirely up to you on what you pick and it seems as if only you will know. However after you pick you'll return to where you were before and your allies will reveal they heard everything and then judge you accordingly for your choice depending on their own morals.
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* CameraScrew: The camera tends to whip around to look at whatever the game thinks you should be looking at. This leads to a particularly irritating moment about two thirds through the game, where to bypass an unnecessary enemy, you're running directly sideways and almost backward with no way to look at what's in front of you.
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The second game in the ''VideoGame/{{Fable}}'' series. This game follows the [[TheHero Hero of Bowerstone]] as he seeks to prevent [[BigBad Lord Lucien]] from destroying the land of Albion with an ancient artifact known as the Spire.

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The second game in the ''VideoGame/{{Fable}}'' series. This game follows the [[TheHero Hero of Bowerstone]] as he seeks to prevent [[BigBad Lord Lucien]] from destroying the land of Albion with an ancient artifact AncientArtifact known as the Spire.
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* KillSteal: At the end of the game, if you don't finish things by [[spoiler:shooting Lucien [[CaughtMonologuing while he rants at you]]]] within a few minutes, Reaver will do it for you. This happens quickly enough that he might even if you ''intend'' to do it yourself and are just taking your time about it.
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** A rather explicit one to ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer''. One character, Giles, has a son named Rupert and a wife named Jenny. He offers a quest to kill a bandit, Ripper. It's almost a LampshadeHanging. You can also find kids playing where they fight the UltimateEvil and quote, "From beneath you it devours," ala [[FinalBoss The First Evil.]]

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** A rather explicit one to ''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer''. One character, Giles, has a son named Rupert and a wife named Jenny. He offers a quest to kill a bandit, Ripper. It's almost a LampshadeHanging. You can also find kids playing where they fight the UltimateEvil BigBad and quote, "From beneath you it devours," ala [[FinalBoss The First Evil.]]
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Lillith's likes and dislikes are actually randomized for each playthrough like other normal townspeople, making this particular instance merely a fitting coincidence.


* TheMole: Lilith. She runs up to you and she exclaims, distraught, that her family had been attacked. Her husband had been killed and her son had been kidnapped. She requests that the Hero rescue her son who had apparently been taken to the nearby Howling Halls by Balverines. Hammer agrees to this and, along the way to Howling Halls, reassures Lilith a few times that they will rescue her son. However, this all turns out to be a trap, and once inside the Howling Halls, she exclaims "Children, I bring you flesh!" in a demonic tone and disappears, prompting her "children" to attack. Once all of the Balverines are defeated, she reappears as a White Balverine and attacks the Hero, who eventually kills her. You can just beat the crap out of her upon meeting her, you'll get some evil points, but two lines of extra dialogue. If you look at her info, one of her likes is "Travel-Ready Beef Jerky". This could be a hint at her love for flesh as a Balverine.

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* TheMole: Lilith. She runs up to you and she exclaims, distraught, that her family had been attacked. Her husband had been killed and her son had been kidnapped. She requests that the Hero rescue her son who had apparently been taken to the nearby Howling Halls by Balverines. Hammer agrees to this and, along the way to Howling Halls, reassures Lilith a few times that they will rescue her son. However, this all turns out to be a trap, and once inside the Howling Halls, she exclaims "Children, I bring you flesh!" in a demonic tone and disappears, prompting her "children" to attack. Once all of the Balverines are defeated, she reappears as a White Balverine and attacks the Hero, who eventually kills her. You can just beat the crap out of her upon meeting her, you'll get some evil points, but two lines of extra dialogue. If you look at her info, one of her likes is "Travel-Ready Beef Jerky". This could be a hint at her love for flesh as a Balverine.

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* GoodPeopleHaveGoodSex: Having sex gets you some Good points so long as you don't pay for it. Even if you do pay, if you use a condom you still get a net gain of 5 good points.


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* SexualKarma: Having sex gets you some Good points so long as you don't pay for it. Even if you do pay, if you use a condom you still get a net gain of 5 good points. On the other hand, having unprotected sex can lead to [=STDs=] and Corruption points.
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* DifficultySpike: The Spire because [[spoiler: the Hero is stripped of their usual weapons and can only rely on three healing potions while being up against [[EliteMooks Spire Guards]]. Returning to Albion ten years later also means that most enemies are tougher than before.]]
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* SparingThemTheDirtyWork: [[spoiler:If you don't kill Lucien at the end Reaver will do it for you.]]
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* JuxtaposedReflectionPoster: The box art shows the young Hero of Bowerstone looking over a pool. Reflected back at them is a demonic being, emphasizing that the player has a choice between good and evil.

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* AdultFear:
** Herman is looking for his son, Joey in the Hobbe Caves. You decide to help him, and later [[spoiler:he finds his son was turned into a Hobbe, and loses the will to live, literally laying down and dying. It's rather....dark, considering the humor that the Fable franchise is known for.]]
** The hero may find out that their own child has run off to have an adventure and fight monsters, in that same cave...
** Rose and Sparrow's situation at the start of the game; homeless and hungry and struggling to survive. It's even heavily implied that Rose, who is in her mid teens at the oldest, has been asked for sexual favours in exchange for some much needed gold. Fortunately, Rose turns the offer down, insisting that 'they'll never be ''that'' hungry.'


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* DrivenToSuicide: Herman is looking for his son, Joey in the Hobbe Caves. You decide to help him, and later [[spoiler:he finds his son was turned into a Hobbe, and loses the will to live, literally laying down and dying. It's rather....dark, considering the humor that the Fable franchise is known for.]]
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* PsychoPink: Valiant Avenger Pink Dye for clothing and hair, described as, "A dark, imposing pink. Although not as threatening as brighter pinks, it’s still deeply disturbing to those who know the colour’s brutal history." Insatiable Butcher Pink Dye and Apocalyptic Pink Dye are also available.
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* ArmorIsUseless: Nothing you can wear provides any kind of protection; you're just as vulnerable to damage wearing the Knight Armour from the ''Knothole Island'' DLC as if you were running around in your underwear.

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* DeconstructedTrope: As mentioned in EvilHero, once there was no longer any thing that they needed to be saved from, the people quickly grew tired of Heroes being able to do whatever they wanted. Once firearms were invented, the people quickly turned on the Guild, destroying it and killing all the heroes within.



* RealityEnsues:
** If the hero's spouse is killed, their children will be taken by protective services and placed into foster care, since a single parent who is always on the road and possibly never home cannot be trusted to care for them.
** Wait too long to [[spoiler:kill the BigBad while he's at your mercy]] and someone else will.
** Use magic powers that everyone believes are made up in the middle of a city or town and people will run off screaming.
** As mentioned in EvilHero above, once there was no longer any thing that they needed to be saved from, the people quickly grew tired of Heroes being able to do whatever they wanted. Once firearms were invented, the people quickly turned on the Guild, destroying it and killing all the heroes within.


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* UnexpectedlyRealisticGameplay: Use magic powers that everyone believes are made up in the middle of a city or town and people will run off screaming.
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* DeathIsASlapOnTheWrist: The Hero cannot actually die; if they are knocked out in battle they simply lose any surrounding experience, and earn a scar. They will then leap back into action, knocking back any remaining enemies.

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* DeathIsASlapOnTheWrist: The Hero cannot actually die; if they are knocked out in battle they simply lose any surrounding experience, and earn a scar. They will then leap back into action, knocking back any remaining enemies. Possessing a Resurrection Phial removes even that much, as it revives the player without penalty (aside from consuming the phial).
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** As mentioned in Deconstruction above, once there was no longer any thing to be saved from the people quickly grew tired of Heroes being able to do whatever they wanted. Destroying the Guild and killing all the Heroes once firearms were invented.

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** As mentioned in Deconstruction EvilHero above, once there was no longer any thing that they needed to be saved from from, the people quickly grew tired of Heroes being able to do whatever they wanted. Destroying Once firearms were invented, the Guild people quickly turned on the Guild, destroying it and killing all the Heroes once firearms were invented.heroes within.
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* KillEnemiesToOpen: Several doors in the Storm Shrine only unlock [[GhostButler and open]] themselves when the monster in the room is killed.

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* KillEnemiesToOpen: Several doors in the Storm Shrine only unlock [[GhostButler and open]] themselves when the monster in the room is killed. It's doubly curious because many of those monsters are said to have moved in well after the shrine fell into disuse.
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** If the hero's spouse is killed protective services will take their kids. Since a single parent who is always on the road and possibly never home cannot be trusted to care for them.

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