History VideoGame / FableII

25th Jul '17 6:11:27 PM nombretomado
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* XMeetsY: The developers have described ''Fable II'' as "A Creator/MontyPython sketch directed by Creator/TimBurton. It's a dark fairy tale with a light-hearted English twist."
24th May '17 2:26:10 AM PlasmaTalon
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* EndOfAnAge: The time of the Heroes and their Guild passed centuries before the start of the game. As time went on there were fewer and fewer threats to face and evils to vanquish. Causing heroes to lose their purpose and the common folk to question their value. In time they devolved into little more than mercenaries, with the people growing to resent them. Once fire arms were invented the heroes were quickly hunted down by the more numerous townspeople, who wiped them out and destroyed the guild. All their legends and the secrets of magic fading into myth.
11th May '17 11:48:32 PM Sylderon
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* GuysSmashGirlsShoot: Inverted with [[DropTheHammer Sister Hannah]] and [[TheGunslinger Reaver]].
29th Apr '17 11:52:39 AM PlasmaTalon
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** For decades heroes had been free to do whatever they wanted, with the people pretty much at their mercy. Once guns were invented the more numerous common folk quickly got together and killed them all off.

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** For decades heroes had been free Once there was nothing to do be saved from the common folk got tired of the Heroes, who were little more than super powered mercenaries, running around doing whatever they wanted, with the people pretty much at their mercy. Once wanted. After guns were invented the more powerful Heroes were quickly exterminated by the more numerous common folk quickly got together and killed them all off.muggles.
25th Apr '17 10:33:52 AM PlasmaTalon
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** Rose and Sparrow's situation at the start of the game; homeless and hungry and struggling to survive. It's even heavily implied that Rose, who is in her mid teens at the oldest, has been asked for sexual favours in exchange for some much needed gold. Fortunately, Rose turns the offer down, insisting that 'they'll never be ''that'' hungry.'

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** The hero may find out that their own child has run off to have an adventure and fight monsters, in that same cave...
** Rose and Sparrow's situation at the start of the game; homeless and hungry and struggling to survive. It's even heavily implied that Rose, who is in her mid teens at the oldest, has been asked for sexual favours in exchange for some much needed gold. Fortunately, Rose turns the offer down, insisting that 'they'll never be ''that'' hungry.''


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* RealityEnsues:
** If the hero's spouse is killed their children are taken away by protective services. A single parent whose on the road and possibly never home can't be trusted to watch their kids after all.
** Wait too long to [[spoiler:kill the BigBad while he's at your mercy]] and someone else will.
** Use magic powers that everyone believes are made up in the middle of a city or town and people will run off screaming.
** For decades heroes had been free to do whatever they wanted, with the people pretty much at their mercy. Once guns were invented the more numerous common folk quickly got together and killed them all off.
17th Mar '17 9:53:44 AM Inferus54
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* HeroicFantasy. Also shades of other fantasy genres like HighFantasy and DarkFantasy.
1st Jan '17 5:41:27 AM Beedle
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** During your stay in the Spire, [[spoiler: your fellow guard Bob doesn't handle the indoctrination well. The last time you see him, he's practically catatonic, mindlessly mumbling [[NewEraSpeech Lucien's speech]] to himself.]]
26th Dec '16 6:21:34 PM ADrago
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* LostForever: If you don't have the Knothole Island DLC and [[spoiler:you don't choose the Love ending, then all items buried beneath the ground]] are LostForever, [[spoiler:as you can't dig them up without your dog, who dies during the endgame]]. The DLC [[spoiler:allows you to resurrect your dog, at the cost of a human sacrifice]].


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* PermanentlyMissableContent: If you don't have the Knothole Island DLC and [[spoiler:you don't choose the Love ending, then all items buried beneath the ground]] are permanently missable, [[spoiler:as you can't dig them up without your dog, who dies during the endgame]]. The DLC [[spoiler:allows you to resurrect your dog, at the cost of a human sacrifice]].
22nd Dec '16 5:23:12 AM tvtropeseditor
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*AnyoneCanDie: Kind of, the 4 heroes can't die in battle but [[spoiler: Lucien will kill your family and your dog, no matter how much work you've put into them. You can bring them back with the Spire but then cannot make the most heroic choice, The Needs of the Many which is saving everyone else who has died.]]
16th Oct '16 9:03:33 AM mlsmithca
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* ApocalypticLog:
** In the ''Hobbe Squatters'' sidequest you can find a diary that documents [[spoiler: Tommy's descent into madness as he becomes one with the hobbes. The spelling and content rapidly gets worse with each entry.]]

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* ApocalypticLog:
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ApocalypticLog: In the ''Hobbe Squatters'' sidequest you can find a diary that documents [[spoiler: Tommy's descent into madness as he becomes one with the hobbes. The spelling and content rapidly gets worse with each entry.]]



* BigBad:
** Lucien.

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* BigBad:
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%%* BigBad: Lucien.



** In a way, Demon Doors

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** In a way, Demon DoorsDoors.



* ChekhovsGun:
** [[spoiler: The Music Box that Sparrow and Rose purchase at the start of the game.]]

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* ChekhovsGun:
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ChekhovsGun: [[spoiler: The Music Box that Sparrow and Rose purchase at the start of the game.]]



** Collecting 50 Silver Keys
** Opening 50 Demon Doors
** Shooting 50 Gargoyles

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** Collecting 50 Silver Keys
Keys.
** Opening 50 Demon Doors
Doors.
** Shooting 50 GargoylesGargoyles.



* CrapsackWorld: It's downplayed somewhat, but Albion is a Somalia-esque anarchic failed state with nothing more than a small, ineffectual police force, no real government, and no military. While people seem to still be living relatively normal lives, the fact remains that everywhere that isn't actually in a town is swarming with literally hundreds of bandits and highwaymen, each one of whom is individually more powerful than any guard or civilian (and they always attack in groups). That's not even getting into the monsters, the evil spirits, or the slave traders who operate pretty much openly. The player character can either slightly improve it or make it ''much'' worse depending on their actions.



* CrapsackWorld: It's downplayed somewhat, but Albion is a Somalia-esque anarchic failed state with nothing more than a small, ineffectual police force, no real government, and no military. While people seem to still be living relatively normal lives, the fact remains that everywhere that isn't actually in a town is swarming with literally hundreds of bandits and highwaymen, each one of whom is individually more powerful than any guard or civilian (and they always attack in groups). That's not even getting into the monsters, the evil spirits, or the slave traders who operate pretty much openly. The player character can either slightly improve it or make it ''much'' worse depending on their actions.



* [[DeathByNewberyMedal Death by Game of the Year]]: The ending of the prologue [[spoiler: and the climax.]]
* DeathIsASlapOnTheWrist:
** The Hero cannot actually die; if they are knocked out in battle they simply lose any surrounding experience, and earn a scar. They will then leap back into action, knocking back any remaining enemies.

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* [[DeathByNewberyMedal Death by Game of the Year]]: DeathByNewberyMedal: The ending of the prologue [[spoiler: and the climax.]]
* DeathIsASlapOnTheWrist:
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DeathIsASlapOnTheWrist: The Hero cannot actually die; if they are knocked out in battle they simply lose any surrounding experience, and earn a scar. They will then leap back into action, knocking back any remaining enemies.



* DifficultySpike:
** The Spire because [[spoiler: the Hero is stripped of their usual weapons and can only rely on three healing potions while being up against [[EliteMooks Spire Guards]]. Returning to Albion ten years later also means that most enemies are tougher than before.]]
* DownloadableContent:

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* DifficultySpike:
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DifficultySpike: The Spire because [[spoiler: the Hero is stripped of their usual weapons and can only rely on three healing potions while being up against [[EliteMooks Spire Guards]]. Returning to Albion ten years later also means that most enemies are tougher than before.]]
* DownloadableContent: DownloadableContent:



*** The various titles the Hero can use are often related to their appearance, morality or social standing.

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*** ** The various titles the Hero can use are often related to their appearance, morality or social standing.



* EvilBrit:
** Lucien.
** Reaver.

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* %%* EvilBrit:
** %%** Lucien.
** %%** Reaver.



* EvilVersusEvil:
** Arguably, Reaver against Lucien.
** An evil Hero would be this against Lucien.

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* %%* EvilVersusEvil:
** Arguably, %%** Reaver against Lucien.
** %%** An evil Hero would be this against Lucien.



* FiveManBand: The Hero and their allies;
** TheHero: The Hero.
** TheLancer: Reaver.
** TheSmartGuy: Garth.
** TheBigGuy: Hammer.
** TheHeart: The Dog.

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* %%* FiveManBand: The Hero and their allies;
** %%** TheHero: The Hero.
** %%** TheLancer: Reaver.
** %%** TheSmartGuy: Garth.
** %%** TheBigGuy: Hammer.
** %%** TheHeart: The Dog.



* GameplayAndStorySegregation: In the beginning of the game, Rose says that one could eat for a week with five gold coins. The cheapest food item in the game costs ''ten''.
** Also, you get shot multiple times by pistols, rifles, and crossbows throughout the game, so [[spoiler:how can one shot from Lucien's pistol (pretty much) kill you?]] [[spoiler: Arguably because Lucien shot Sparrow when they were a child and before they had entered the Chamber of Heroes.]]

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* GameplayAndStorySegregation: GameplayAndStorySegregation:
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In the beginning of the game, Rose says that one could eat for a week with five gold coins. The cheapest food item in the game costs ''ten''.
** Also, you You get shot multiple times by pistols, rifles, and crossbows throughout the game, so [[spoiler:how can one shot from Lucien's pistol (pretty much) kill you?]] [[spoiler: Arguably because Lucien [[spoiler:Lucien shot Sparrow when they were a child and before they had entered the Chamber of Heroes.]]



* HelmetsAreHardlyHeroic:
** Most of the helmets the Hero can wear is found in the DLC packs, and they ''always'' raise either aggressiveness, scariness, or how evil they appear to be.
* HeroicSacrifice:

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* HelmetsAreHardlyHeroic:
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HelmetsAreHardlyHeroic: Most of the helmets the Hero can wear is found in the DLC packs, and they ''always'' raise either aggressiveness, scariness, or how evil they appear to be.
* HeroicSacrifice: HeroicSacrifice:



* HistoryRepeats: The Tattered Spire [[spoiler: was constructed by the Archon of the Old Kingdom, and used to re-create the world, just as Lucien is trying to do]].

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* HistoryRepeats: HistoryRepeats:
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The Tattered Spire [[spoiler: was constructed by the Archon of the Old Kingdom, and used to re-create the world, just as Lucien is trying to do]].



* InfinityPlusOneSword: The crossbow that you get for shooting all 50 gargoyles. However, since there's a gargoyle in Fairfax Castle, you can't get it until you've already beaten the main quest and amassed a fortune.

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* InfinityPlusOneSword: InfinityPlusOneSword:
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The crossbow that you get for shooting all 50 gargoyles. However, since there's a gargoyle in Fairfax Castle, you can't get it until you've already beaten the main quest and amassed a fortune.



* LargeHam:
** ''Reaver''.
** Some of the [=NPCs=] can be this, including the guards.

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* %%* LargeHam:
** ''Reaver''.
**
%%** Reaver.
%%**
Some of the [=NPCs=] can be this, including the guards.



* TheMole: Lilith. She runs up to you and she exclaims, distraught, that her family had been attacked. Her husband had been killed and her son had been kidnapped. She requests that the Hero rescue her son who had apparently been taken to the nearby Howling Halls by Balverines. Hammer agrees to this and, along the way to Howling Halls, reassures Lilith a few times that they will rescue her son. However, this all turns out to be a trap, and once inside the Howling Halls, she exclaims "Children, I bring you flesh!" in a demonic tone and disappears, prompting her "children" to attack. Once all of the Balverines are defeated, she reappears as a White Balverine and attacks the Hero, who eventually kills her. You can just beat the crap out of her upon meeting her, you'll get some evil points, but two lines of extra dialogue.
** If you look at her info, one of her likes is "Travel-Ready Beef Jerky". This could be a hint at her love for flesh as a Balverine.

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* TheMole: Lilith. She runs up to you and she exclaims, distraught, that her family had been attacked. Her husband had been killed and her son had been kidnapped. She requests that the Hero rescue her son who had apparently been taken to the nearby Howling Halls by Balverines. Hammer agrees to this and, along the way to Howling Halls, reassures Lilith a few times that they will rescue her son. However, this all turns out to be a trap, and once inside the Howling Halls, she exclaims "Children, I bring you flesh!" in a demonic tone and disappears, prompting her "children" to attack. Once all of the Balverines are defeated, she reappears as a White Balverine and attacks the Hero, who eventually kills her. You can just beat the crap out of her upon meeting her, you'll get some evil points, but two lines of extra dialogue.
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dialogue. If you look at her info, one of her likes is "Travel-Ready Beef Jerky". This could be a hint at her love for flesh as a Balverine.



** While the "Wealth" option wasn't terribly interesting as it doesn't get you anything you can't get anyway ("Power" would have been better), being forced to choose between the other two "good" options was quite beautiful to some players. The ending was ultimately a good portrayal of what sacrifice truly means - most any player could resist taking the pile of gold, but are you willing to give up [[spoiler:the lives of your sister, your family (or families), and your beloved dog, and take a permanent hit in your effectiveness as an adventurer]] in order to do the right thing?.
*** To other players, it was seen as a ''painfully'' forced, unnecessary SadisticChoice. There is no reason given why the same magic that can save [[spoiler:an unknown large number of lives]] or save [[spoiler:a variable small number of lives]] can't save both. You are simply told pick one or the other, with no justification given for not being able to wish for something like [[spoiler:all of Lucien's victims to be resurrected]], which would give the effects of both choice A and B.
** Its also worth noting that one thing in the game world ''does'' change if you take the [[spoiler: Sacrifice]] ending. [[spoiler: The people of Bowerstone know about your sacrifice, send you a letter telling you that they are grateful, and build a statue in your honour. Evil or good, hated or loved by all, that's something that can't be taken away from your character.]]

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** While the "Wealth" option wasn't terribly interesting as it doesn't get you anything you can't get anyway ("Power" would have been better), being forced to choose between the other two "good" options was quite beautiful to some players. The ending was ultimately a good portrayal of what sacrifice truly means - most any player could resist taking the pile of gold, but are you willing to give up [[spoiler:the lives of your sister, your family (or families), and your beloved dog, and take a permanent hit in your effectiveness as an adventurer]] in order to do the right thing?.
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thing?. To other players, it was seen as a ''painfully'' forced, unnecessary SadisticChoice. There is no reason given why the same magic that can save [[spoiler:an unknown large number of lives]] or save [[spoiler:a variable small number of lives]] can't save both. You are simply told pick one or the other, with no justification given for not being able to wish for something like [[spoiler:all of Lucien's victims to be resurrected]], which would give the effects of both choice A and B.
** Its It's also worth noting that one thing in the game world ''does'' change if you take the [[spoiler: Sacrifice]] ending. [[spoiler: The people of Bowerstone know about your sacrifice, send you a letter telling you that they are grateful, and build a statue in your honour. Evil or good, hated or loved by all, that's something that can't be taken away from your character.]]



* NoNameGiven:
** The Hero has no official name, and is instead known by their nickname. {{Fanon}} usually uses the nickname Sparrow as their real name.

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* NoNameGiven:
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NoNameGiven: The Hero has no official name, and is instead known by their nickname. {{Fanon}} usually uses the nickname Sparrow as their real name.



* PainfullySlowProjectile: Magic basically requires to to stand still and charge it. Getting hit does not ruin your concentration, but it is entirely impractical. And in some instances, like [[DoomsdayDevice The Shard]], it's mandatory.

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* PainfullySlowProjectile: PainfullySlowProjectile:
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Magic basically requires to to stand still and charge it. Getting hit does not ruin your concentration, but it is entirely impractical. And in some instances, like [[DoomsdayDevice The Shard]], it's mandatory.



* RapidAging:
** Reaver [[spoiler: tricks the Hero into this, in order to fuel his own eternal youth. However the Hero ''can'' choose to sacrifice an innocent girl in their place. She becomes a decrepit old woman in ''seconds'' and runs off in horror.]]

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* RapidAging:
**
RapidAging: Reaver [[spoiler: tricks the Hero into this, in order to fuel his own eternal youth. However the Hero ''can'' choose to sacrifice an innocent girl in their place. She becomes a decrepit old woman in ''seconds'' and runs off in horror.]]



* SadisticChoice: Aside from the ending, when you decide [[spoiler: whether to age yourself or allow an innocent girl to age.]]
** Granted, should you decide to [[spoiler: let it happen to yourself, said aging is purely aesthetic, and doesn't appear to have noticeable effect on the gameplay itself. There are also a few rare items that will reverse the effects if you hold onto them.]]

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* SadisticChoice: Aside from the ending, when you decide [[spoiler: whether to age yourself or allow an innocent girl to age.]]
**
]] Granted, should you decide to [[spoiler: let it happen to yourself, said aging is purely aesthetic, and doesn't appear to have noticeable effect on the gameplay itself. There are also a few rare items that will reverse the effects if you hold onto them.]]



* SceneryGorn:
** Wraithmarsh [[spoiler: which used to be Oakvale]] is overrun with Hollowmen and Banshees. It's almost always shrouded in fog, has a few ruined buildings here and there, and countless graves and tombs.

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* SceneryGorn:
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SceneryGorn: Wraithmarsh [[spoiler: which used to be Oakvale]] is overrun with Hollowmen and Banshees. It's almost always shrouded in fog, has a few ruined buildings here and there, and countless graves and tombs.



** A rather explicit one to Series/{{Buffy|the Vampire Slayer}}. One character, Giles, has a son named Rupert and a wife named Jenny. He offers a quest to kill a bandit, Ripper. It's almost a LampshadeHanging. You can also find kids playing where they fight the UltimateEvil and quote, ''"From beneath you it devours,"'' ala [[FinalBoss The First Evil.]]

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** A rather explicit one to Series/{{Buffy|the Vampire Slayer}}.''Series/BuffyTheVampireSlayer''. One character, Giles, has a son named Rupert and a wife named Jenny. He offers a quest to kill a bandit, Ripper. It's almost a LampshadeHanging. You can also find kids playing where they fight the UltimateEvil and quote, ''"From "From beneath you it devours,"'' devours," ala [[FinalBoss The First Evil.]]



* SpoonyBard: Roland the Bard, who, after you complete a quest, sings of your glory at Bloodstone, and at The Sandgoose in Oakfield.



* SpoonyBard: Roland the Bard, who, after you complete a quest, sings of your glory at Bloodstone, and at The Sandgoose in Oakfield.



* TempleOfDoom:
** The Court of Shadows.
** The various Shrines on Knothole Island.
* ToiletHumour:
** The game is ''full'' of it.
** The Hero can fart and belch on command, and it's used to entertain people.

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* %%* TempleOfDoom:
** %%** The Court of Shadows.
** %%** The various Shrines on Knothole Island.
* ToiletHumour:
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ToiletHumour: The game is ''full'' of it.
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it. The Hero can fart and belch on command, and it's used to entertain people.



* VideoGameCaringPotential: Especially regarding your dog and your family (or families). This gives the player [[spoiler: real motivation to kill the game's BigBad because he [[PlayerPunch ''murders'' your spouse(s) AND children near the end of the game.]] And if that wasn't enough, he [[ShootTheDog shoots your dog]] because said dog [[TakingTheBullet takes the bullet for you]]]].
** You can comfort your dog and give him treats when he's scared.

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* VideoGameCaringPotential: Especially regarding your dog and your family (or families). You can comfort your dog and give him treats when he's scared. This gives the player [[spoiler: real motivation to kill the game's BigBad because he [[PlayerPunch ''murders'' your spouse(s) AND children near the end of the game.]] And if that wasn't enough, he [[ShootTheDog shoots your dog]] because said dog [[TakingTheBullet takes the bullet for you]]]].
** You can comfort your dog and give him treats when he's scared.
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