History VideoGame / DragonQuestVII

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** [[spoiler: Matilda - however it's a case of ICannotSelfTerminate]]


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** The Priest of Providence. [[spoiler: As it turns out he was more than willing to do this in the past...]]
16th Jan '17 10:11:54 PM Nicoaln
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* HeroicSacrifice:
** [[spoiler: The warrior in Pink manages to do it, earning himself a RedemptionEqualsDeath]]
** Twice in Nottagen:
*** Buddy's first monster pet, a rock monster, detonates to save Buddy from the vine monster.
*** Wiggles will, if spared, fight off the rest of the hell worms to save Buddy and die of his wounds.
11th Jan '17 12:01:07 PM Polokun
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* StableTimeLoop: During the game, you hear from various people or in books about the climatic battle between God and the Demon Lord, with the implication that God was defeated in the battle. So why doesn't the Demon Lord exist in the present? [[spoiler: Turns out the Demon Lord was left heavily wounded by God and the party is the one who goes back in time using the final Pedastal to finish him off. Until he's inadvertently revived by the Deja/Roamer tribe at least.]]
31st Dec '16 11:15:01 PM karategal
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* GambitRoulette: Played by [[spoiler:GOD]] of all people. Blocked entirely for plot contents. [[spoiler:God has set up his battle with [[BigBad Orgodemir]] so that his four Spirits can be revived if they fell. He sealed his warrior Melvin away for the Hero to gain and add strength to his party. The Hero was about to be born in a DoomedHometown, but God saved him and moved him to the continent of Estard in the future when the Ruins could be used. The Hero was originally a child marked with the Aqua Spirit's brand - but only half, his father Sharkeye was not killed, only Sealed in ice until needed so that the Hero can gain the entire seal. Estard, on the other hand, was the ONLY island that was spared from Orgodemir's destruction. On that island was the Ruins that allow the Hero to go into the past and save all the worlds. The shards to get to each world are arranged in difficulty to allow the Hero to grow. Then, right after the Hero has killed Orgodemir, the revival ceremony to revive God is allowed to finally work. Sadly, right after that is the Body Snatcher incident, but... God's Gambit works perfectly.]]

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* GambitRoulette: Played by [[spoiler:GOD]] of all people. Blocked entirely for plot contents. [[spoiler:God has set up his battle with [[BigBad Orgodemir]] so that his four Spirits can be revived if they fell. He sealed his warrior Melvin away for the Hero to gain and add strength to his party. The Hero was about to be born in a DoomedHometown, but God saved him and moved him to the continent of Estard in the future when the Ruins could be used. The Hero was originally a child marked with the Aqua Spirit's brand - -- but only half, his father Sharkeye was not killed, only Sealed in ice until needed so that the Hero can gain the entire seal. Estard, on the other hand, was the ONLY island that was spared from Orgodemir's destruction. On that island was the Ruins that allow the Hero to go into the past and save all the worlds. The shards to get to each world are arranged in difficulty to allow the Hero to grow. Then, right after the Hero has killed Orgodemir, the revival ceremony to revive God is allowed to finally work. Sadly, right after that is the Body Snatcher incident, but... God's Gambit works perfectly.]]



** Additionally, Melvin/Mervyn, a paladin who was a warrior of God, joins your party, yet he is only slightly stronger than you are or even ''weaker''. Except that [[SealedGoodInACan he had been sealed away for God knows how long]] - not staying in shape.

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** Additionally, Melvin/Mervyn, a paladin who was a warrior of God, joins your party, yet he is only slightly stronger than you are or even ''weaker''. Except that [[SealedGoodInACan he had been sealed away for God knows how long]] - -- not staying in shape.



** When Aira/Aishe joins, she already has the dancer class mastered, as well as several levels into Warrior. This is indeed befitting of her status as the village dancer as well as someone who is at the very least knowledgable about weaponry. Additionally, the reason why it's only at level three makes sense as well - she mentions her parents usually don't like her fighting, so she isn't able to do a lot of training.

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** When Aira/Aishe joins, she already has the dancer class mastered, as well as several levels into Warrior. This is indeed befitting of her status as the village dancer as well as someone who is at the very least knowledgable knowledgeable about weaponry. Additionally, the reason why it's only at level three makes sense as well - -- she mentions her parents usually don't like her fighting, so she isn't able to do a lot of training.



* LinearWarriorsQuadraticWizards: Inverted - Both fighters and mages get a lot of fancy abilities. Unfortunately, the problem with mages is that they don't have anything to multiply the power of their abilities like warriors do. Warriors have several abilities that are boosted in power by Sap (lowers enemy defence), Focus or Muster Strength (allows the next attack to deal more damage) and Oomph (Doubles attack power). This enables mages to deal only just above triple digit damage, whereas an oomphed Focus Strengthed warrior will hit for over a thousand damage with Knuckle Sandwich (And this will only take a couple rounds to set up, too). Even for clearing out groups of enemies, mages fall behind since most [[PrestigeClass prestige warrior classes]] get access to useful abilities like Thin Air, which hits harder than any of the Boom spells do ''and'' costs nothing. Later on, mages are useful primarily for healing, buffing, and debuffing.

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* LinearWarriorsQuadraticWizards: Inverted - -- Both fighters and mages get a lot of fancy abilities. Unfortunately, the problem with mages is that they don't have anything to multiply the power of their abilities like warriors do. Warriors have several abilities that are boosted in power by Sap (lowers enemy defence), Focus or Muster Strength (allows the next attack to deal more damage) and Oomph (Doubles attack power). This enables mages to deal only just above triple digit damage, whereas an oomphed Focus Strengthed warrior will hit for over a thousand damage with Knuckle Sandwich (And this will only take a couple rounds to set up, too). Even for clearing out groups of enemies, mages fall behind since most [[PrestigeClass prestige warrior classes]] get access to useful abilities like Thin Air, which hits harder than any of the Boom spells do ''and'' costs nothing. Later on, mages are useful primarily for healing, buffing, and debuffing.



** And it goes FromBadToWorse, folks. [[spoiler:We get to revisit Verdham down the road, and we get to see the results of the fact that everyone went stupid the last time you were here - Iwan loses the house and is worthless, Kaya has married the new owner of the house, we find out that her poisoning jokes weren't exactly jokes, Linda abandoned her family to become a nun at a convent overlooking Pepe's estate at Mentare and recently passed away pining for Pepe, and Pepe has become a confirmed bachelor. Perhaps it's for the best that Verdham in the present is a ruin, with only the decaying herb garden left to mark that it even existed.]]
* LoveAtFirstSight: Michaela has elements of this with the hero. What really hits it off for her are his age similarity to her (a breath of fresh air when your castle is full of older people) and kind nature. Though it's never really explored much, the Hero is noted by allies to get a bit shy around her when Party Chatting, and is said to be rather happy to be kissed by her in the epilogue. This is all to Maribel's chagrin, of course.

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** And it goes FromBadToWorse, folks. [[spoiler:We get to revisit Verdham down the road, and we get to see the results of the fact that everyone went stupid the last time you were here - -- Iwan loses the house and is worthless, Kaya has married the new owner of the house, we find out that her poisoning jokes weren't exactly jokes, Linda abandoned her family to become a nun at a convent overlooking Pepe's estate at Mentare and recently passed away pining for Pepe, and Pepe has become a confirmed bachelor. Perhaps it's for the best that Verdham in the present is a ruin, with only the decaying herb garden left to mark that it even existed.]]
* LoveAtFirstSight: Michaela has elements of this with the hero. What really hits it off for her are is his age similarity to her herself (a breath of fresh air when your castle is full of older people) and kind nature. Though it's never really explored much, the Hero is noted by allies to get a bit shy around her when Party Chatting, and is said to be rather happy to be kissed by her in the epilogue. This is all to Maribel's chagrin, of course.



** Nottagen - you have to save the village ''three times''. [[spoiler:Even though you ''can'' doom them, but [[VideoGameCruletyPotential why would you]] do that?]]

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** Nottagen - -- you have to save the village ''three times''. [[spoiler:Even though you ''can'' doom them, but [[VideoGameCruletyPotential [[VideoGameCrueltyPotential why would you]] do that?]]



** Nottagen's scenario forces you to do this - by clearing the darkness, you cause a huge man-eating plant monster to return. Oops. You can make this even ''worse'' by deciding to [[spoiler: kill Chibi / Wiggles, resulting in the entire town save one getting killed]].

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** Nottagen's scenario forces you to do this - -- by clearing the darkness, you cause a huge man-eating plant monster to return. Oops. You can make this even ''worse'' by deciding to [[spoiler: kill Chibi / Wiggles, resulting in the entire town save one getting killed]].



* NowWhereWasIGoingAgain: "Party Talk" will often be this - especially in the 3DS version, wherein the characters will mention what you were doing last. Very useful in a game of this length and if one sets the game down for awhile.

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* NowWhereWasIGoingAgain: "Party Talk" will often be this - -- especially in the 3DS version, wherein the characters will mention what you were doing last. Very useful in a game of this length and if one sets the game down for awhile.



* PrestigeClass: The advanced classes are this - as they require you to master multiple basic classes and intermediate classes to be able to promote to and give powerful abilities. Godhand/Champion and Summoner/Druid are these for fighters and mages, respectively.

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* PrestigeClass: The advanced classes are this - -- as they require you to master multiple basic classes and intermediate classes to be able to promote to and give powerful abilities. Godhand/Champion and Summoner/Druid are these for fighters and mages, respectively.



* YourPrincessIsInAnotherCastle: You ''finally'' made it back to Alltrades Abbey... oh wait now they built an arena. [[LampshadeHanging In an impossibly short amount of time - the characters are just as surprised as the player is.]]

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* YourPrincessIsInAnotherCastle: You ''finally'' made it back to Alltrades Abbey... oh wait wait, now they built an arena. [[LampshadeHanging In an impossibly short amount of time - -- the characters are just as surprised as the player is.]]
31st Dec '16 8:19:10 PM karategal
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* AcceptableBreaksFromReality: In Disc 2, when [[spoiler: the continents that're home to the great spirits are sealed off]], curiously, Alltrades Abbey, one of the most crucial locations in the game, is still accessible despite that it does not fit the apparent criteria. But see also the fridge section.

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* AcceptableBreaksFromReality: In Disc 2, when [[spoiler: the continents that're that are home to the great spirits are sealed off]], curiously, Alltrades Abbey, one of the most crucial locations in the game, is still accessible despite that it does not fit the apparent criteria. But see also the fridge section.



* ChangelingFantasy: Implied, although it never comes to the hero's attention. Early in the game it is noted that the hero had an unusually short gestation - only five months - before being born as healthy as a full term baby. During the Buccanham chapter, the player meets Anais, the pregnant wife of the {{pirate}} Sharkeye, in poor condition due to worrying about both the curse of the island [[spoiler:that turns all babies into monsters the first full moon after their birth]] and her husband [[spoiler:sealed off in [[HumanPopsicle demonic ice]] somewhere far away after having fought the Demon King.]] After clearing the curse and restoring the island, Anais disappears. [[spoiler:Her prayer reached the undersea king, who abducted her and turned her into a mermaid in order to live long enough to be reunited with Sharkeye when he were to be defrosted.]] Meanwhile, her unborn baby is said to have been transported to another land, possibly another time by the Water Spirit. This baby is strongly implied to be the hero. [[spoiler:Later it is all but confirmed as both he and Sharkeye bear halves of the mark of the Water Spirit, Sharkeye passing his half to who would've been his son.]]

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* ChangelingFantasy: Implied, although it never comes to the hero's attention. Early in the game it is noted that the hero had an unusually short gestation - -- only five months - -- before being born as healthy as a full term baby. During the Buccanham chapter, the player meets Anais, the pregnant wife of the {{pirate}} Sharkeye, in poor condition due to worrying about both the curse of the island [[spoiler:that turns all babies into monsters the first full moon after their birth]] and her husband [[spoiler:sealed off in [[HumanPopsicle demonic ice]] somewhere far away after having fought the Demon King.]] After clearing the curse and restoring the island, Anais disappears. [[spoiler:Her prayer reached the undersea king, Undersea King, who abducted her and turned her into a mermaid in order to live long enough to be reunited with Sharkeye when he were to be defrosted.]] Meanwhile, her unborn baby is said to have been transported to another land, possibly another time by the Water Spirit. This baby is strongly implied to be the hero. [[spoiler:Later it is all but confirmed as both he and Sharkeye bear halves of the mark of the Water Spirit, Sharkeye passing his half to who would've been his son.]]



* ChildhoodFriendRomance: Maribel has feelings for the hero and is jealous of Princess Michaela who does as well, though it's unknown if hero returns either girls' feelings. In the manga Maribel also had feelings for Prince Keifer though in the game there just have a platonic friendship.

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* ChildhoodFriendRomance: Maribel has feelings for the hero and is jealous of Princess Michaela who does as well, though it's unknown if the hero returns either girls' feelings. In the manga manga, Maribel also had feelings for Prince Keifer Keifer, though in the game there they just have a platonic friendship.
30th Dec '16 10:08:24 AM GunarmDyne
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%%* SquishyWizard: Maribel has elements of this, though the game's job system lets you compensate for this to some degree if you want.

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%%* * SquishyWizard: Maribel has elements of this, though starts off as one with her natural stat growth and offensive spells learned by default, but unlocking the game's job Job system lets you compensate for this allows her to some degree if you want.take another path.
28th Dec '16 6:21:23 AM HighCrate
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* SquishyWizard: Maribel has elements of this, though the game's job system lets you compensate for this to some degree if you want.
* StarCrossedLovers: Several.

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* %%* SquishyWizard: Maribel has elements of this, though the game's job system lets you compensate for this to some degree if you want.
* %%* StarCrossedLovers: Several.
28th Dec '16 6:12:38 AM HighCrate
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* JackOfAllStats: Your hero, naturally. Dharma/Alltrades Abbey lets him become TheAce easier than other characters.

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* JackOfAllStats: Your hero, naturally. Dharma/Alltrades Abbey lets him become TheAce easier more easily than other characters.
25th Dec '16 9:12:38 PM ADrago
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* LostForever: An entire town. [[spoiler:If you make the wrong choice in past-Loomin and kill Chibi, the town is destroyed and there's nothing you can do about it.]]


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* PermanentlyMissableContent: An entire town. [[spoiler:If you make the wrong choice in past-Loomin and kill Chibi, the town is destroyed and there's nothing you can do about it.]]
20th Dec '16 2:29:37 AM Polokun
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* PrestigeClass: The advanced classes are this - as they require you to master multiple basic classes and intermediate classes to be able to promote to and give powerful abilities. Godhand/Champion and Summoner/Druid are these for fighters and mages, respectively. The 3DS version adds Hero, which is a much ''much'' straighter example.

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* PrestigeClass: The advanced classes are this - as they require you to master multiple basic classes and intermediate classes to be able to promote to and give powerful abilities. Godhand/Champion and Summoner/Druid are these for fighters and mages, respectively. The 3DS version adds Hero, which is a much ''much'' straighter example.
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