History VideoGame / DragonQuestMonstersJoker2

23rd Aug '16 7:05:56 PM nombretomado
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* OriginalGeneration: Several original monsters, most notably the final boss and the BonusBoss, were created by AkiraToriyama exclusively for this game.

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* OriginalGeneration: Several original monsters, most notably the final boss and the BonusBoss, were created by AkiraToriyama Creator/AkiraToriyama exclusively for this game.
16th Jun '16 12:17:28 PM LiefKatano
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*** Of the 18 Size G monsters, three have Tactical Trooper,[[note]]Empyrea, Rhapthorne 2, Leonyx[[/note]] seven have Double Trouble,[[note]]Schleiman Tank, Stormsgate Citadel, Canzar, Ruin, Sagittar, Aquarion, Great Godbird]] and four have Tactical Genius.[[note]]Orochi, Estark, Zenith Dragon, Rigor Mortex[[/note]] The other four[[note]]Wormonger, Missing Lynx, Bjorn, and Khalimari[[/note]] will only ever act once per round. Of the 18 Size G monsters, eight[[note]]Wormonger, Missing Lynx, Bjorn, Stormsgate Citadel, Empyrea, Sagittar, Rhapthorne 2, Great Godbird[[/note]] have less than 2000 max HP. Should the enemy team have a Night Clubber,[[note]]a monster with 999/999/999 max HP/Attack/Defence, and the aforementioned Giant Killer trait[[/note]] only TWO of these Size G monsters [[note]]Sagittar, Great Godbird[[/note]] stand a chance of coming out alive. In all, only a third of the 18 Size G monsters are worth using,[[note]]Canzar, Ruin, Sagittar, Aquarion, Great Godbird, Rigor Mortex[[/note]] owing to giants in general having bad traits and painfully low max stats. Oh, and Night Clubber? Turns out it's great at killing everything else, too, especially if an Attack StatusBuff is cast on it.

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*** Of the 18 Size G monsters, three have Tactical Trooper,[[note]]Empyrea, Rhapthorne 2, Leonyx[[/note]] seven have Double Trouble,[[note]]Schleiman Tank, Stormsgate Citadel, Canzar, Ruin, Sagittar, Aquarion, Great Godbird]] Godbird[[/note]] and four have Tactical Genius.[[note]]Orochi, Estark, Zenith Dragon, Rigor Mortex[[/note]] The other four[[note]]Wormonger, Missing Lynx, Bjorn, and Khalimari[[/note]] will only ever act once per round. Of the 18 Size G monsters, eight[[note]]Wormonger, Missing Lynx, Bjorn, Stormsgate Citadel, Empyrea, Sagittar, Rhapthorne 2, Great Godbird[[/note]] have less than 2000 max HP. Should the enemy team have a Night Clubber,[[note]]a monster with 999/999/999 max HP/Attack/Defence, and the aforementioned Giant Killer trait[[/note]] only TWO of these Size G monsters [[note]]Sagittar, Great Godbird[[/note]] stand a chance of coming out alive. In all, only a third of the 18 Size G monsters are worth using,[[note]]Canzar, Ruin, Sagittar, Aquarion, Great Godbird, Rigor Mortex[[/note]] owing to giants in general having bad traits and painfully low max stats. Oh, and Night Clubber? Turns out it's great at killing everything else, too, especially if an Attack StatusBuff is cast on it.
12th Apr '16 5:56:31 PM HamburgerTime
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* NoExportForYou: Unfortunately, the UpdatedRerelease was not localized. With Nintendo moving on from the DS to the 3DS and ''DQ Monsters'' moving on to the ''Terry's Wonderland 3D'' remake (announced on the same day as the US ''Joker 2'' release, even), it didn't make much sense to invest time and money in the same game again. (And to rub salt in the wound, ''Terry's Wonderland 3D'' was never localized either.)
** This hurt the Japanese too, as they were promised international tournaments, and they got them, but for the version that most people had already stopped playing.
** This is more an example of bad timing than anything else. ''Professional'' was announced literally ''just'' as the localization of the original version was finished. Square Enix and Nintendo had to choose between releasing the localized normal version, or spend another several months localizing ''Professional''. For obvious reasons, they chose the former. The fact that many of the new monsters are from DQ games that never got released overseas (Magarugi,[[note]]The fake antagonist of Dragon Quest Monsters Caravan Heart[[/note]] pretty much every Rocket Slime character aside from the Hero Slime and Slival's tanks, Ghadis,[[note]]The final boss of "Monster Battle Road Victory"[[/note]] the monkey demon with the throne, etc) probably didn't help matters.
12th Apr '16 5:28:20 PM HamburgerTime
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Received an UpdatedRerelease, ''VideoGame/DragonQuestMonsters Joker 2 Professional'', which added 500 new monsters, completely re-balanced the multiplayer, and roughly doubled the single player campaign. Unfortunately, due to some poor timing in both release date and localization, [[NoExportForYou this version was not the one localized]].

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Received an UpdatedRerelease, ''VideoGame/DragonQuestMonsters Joker 2 Professional'', which added 500 110 new monsters, completely re-balanced the multiplayer, and roughly doubled the single player campaign. Unfortunately, due to some poor timing in both release date and localization, [[NoExportForYou this version was not the one localized]].
12th Apr '16 5:27:05 PM HamburgerTime
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%%* KarmaHoudini: [[spoiler:Zehlam]]



* {{Mons}}: 300 (800 in the UpdatedRerelease) of them.

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* {{Mons}}: 300 (800 in the UpdatedRerelease) 311 of them.them. The UpdatedRerelease adds 110 more.


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** Many of the {{Big Bad}}s require their [[TheDragon Dragons]] at some point in their synth chain.
10th Mar '16 10:17:00 AM DragonRanger
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* NoExportForYou: Unfortunately, the UpdatedRerelease was not localized. Given the age of the DS and Nintendo having started pushing the [=3DS=], it's very unlikely we will see ''Joker 2 Professional'' in the West. The announcement of the ''Terry's Wonderland 3D'' remake (on the same day as the US ''Joker 2'' release, even) cuts the chances even further as it's likely to be localized instead, but with ''[=TW3D=]'' said to have the entire ''Professional'' roster, it's probably an even trade.

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* NoExportForYou: Unfortunately, the UpdatedRerelease was not localized. Given the age of the DS and With Nintendo having started pushing moving on from the [=3DS=], it's very unlikely we will see ''Joker 2 Professional'' in DS to the West. The announcement of 3DS and ''DQ Monsters'' moving on to the ''Terry's Wonderland 3D'' remake (on (announced on the same day as the US ''Joker 2'' release, even) cuts even), it didn't make much sense to invest time and money in the chances even further as it's likely same game again. (And to be rub salt in the wound, ''Terry's Wonderland 3D'' was never localized instead, but with ''[=TW3D=]'' said to have the entire ''Professional'' roster, it's probably an even trade.either.)



** This is more an example of bad timing than anything else. ''Professional'' was announced literally ''just'' as the localization of the original version was finished. Square Enix and Nintendo had to choose between releasing the localized normal version and compensate with the 3D remake, or spend another several months localizing ''Professional''. For obvious reasons, they chose the former. The fact that many of the new monsters are from DQ games that never got released overseas (Magarugi,[[note]]The fake antagonist of Dragon Quest Monsters Caravan Heart[[/note]] pretty much every Rocket Slime character aside from the Hero Slime and Slival's tanks, Ghadis,[[note]]The final boss of "Monster Battle Road Victory"[[/note]] the monkey demon with the throne, etc) probably didn't help matters.

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** This is more an example of bad timing than anything else. ''Professional'' was announced literally ''just'' as the localization of the original version was finished. Square Enix and Nintendo had to choose between releasing the localized normal version and compensate with the 3D remake, version, or spend another several months localizing ''Professional''. For obvious reasons, they chose the former. The fact that many of the new monsters are from DQ games that never got released overseas (Magarugi,[[note]]The fake antagonist of Dragon Quest Monsters Caravan Heart[[/note]] pretty much every Rocket Slime character aside from the Hero Slime and Slival's tanks, Ghadis,[[note]]The final boss of "Monster Battle Road Victory"[[/note]] the monkey demon with the throne, etc) probably didn't help matters.
1st Feb '16 1:36:57 PM Tavernier
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* BeyondTheImpossible: Synthesizing ''Joker 2's'' TrueFinalBoss, whose main ingredients each require Captain Crow. Captain Crow can only be obtained once per game -- [[SocializationBonus you need a friend]].



* FinalBoss: Malevolynx, [[spoiler: the corrupted form of the island's ruler, Leonyx]].



* TrueFinalBoss: [[spoiler:Rigor Mortex]]
** [[TrueFinalBoss Even Truer Final Boss]]: [[spoiler:The Baboon Beast/[[OneWingedAngel Evil Beast]] in ''Professional'']].

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* TrueFinalBoss: [[spoiler:Rigor Mortex]]
** [[TrueFinalBoss Even Truer Final Boss]]: [[spoiler:The Baboon Beast/[[OneWingedAngel Evil Beast]]
Mortex in ''Professional'']].the original, who corrupted Leonyx in the first place. In ''Professional'', it's the Sitting Lion Beast (''Hihyurude''), who comes complete with OneWingedAngel ''Evil Beast'' (''Hihyudorado'')]].
27th May '15 11:04:19 AM TheNerfGuy
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%%* TheAssimilator: [[spoiler:Rigor Mortex's]] mondus operandi.



* ButThouMust: Several times.

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* %%* ButThouMust: Several times.



* [[TrailersAlwaysSpoil Credits Always Spoil]]: If you're paying attention during the ending credits, you'll notice it lists the various monsters in Joker 2 via what series they debuted in. [[spoiler: Including ''VideoGame/DragonQuestHeroesRocketSlime''.]]

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* [[TrailersAlwaysSpoil Credits TrailersAlwaysSpoil: more like "Credits Always Spoil]]: Spoil", but similar principle. If you're paying attention during the ending credits, you'll notice it lists the various monsters in Joker 2 via what series they debuted in. [[spoiler: Including ''VideoGame/DragonQuestHeroesRocketSlime''.]]



* InevitableTournament: Multiples.

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* %%* InevitableTournament: Multiples.



*** As noted, one of the candidates for this is the series' iconic Green Dragon, and you can fuse up an "initial" one without a ton of difficulty before even going to Iceolation, and by the time you get to the fourth area, finding the components for his necessary fusion buddy and training it is trivial. The first-stage upgraded Green Dragon can then waltz all over the game up until the very end of the main quest.

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*** As noted, one ** One of the candidates for this is the series' iconic Green Dragon, and you can fuse up an "initial" one without a ton of difficulty before even going to Iceolation, and by the time you get to the fourth area, finding the components for his necessary fusion buddy and training it is trivial. The first-stage upgraded Green Dragon can then waltz all over the game up until the very end of the main quest.



*** Conklave easily turns into an InfinityPlusOneSword post-game. Multihitting, able to psych up and attack multiple times (turning it into what is undeniably ''the best'' scouting monster in the entire game), great attack... oh, and it gets Uber Dark Dynamiter, giving it some of the strongest spells in the game.

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*** ** Conklave easily turns into an InfinityPlusOneSword post-game. Multihitting, able to psych up and attack multiple times (turning it into what is undeniably ''the best'' scouting monster in the entire game), great attack... oh, and it gets Uber Dark Dynamiter, giving it some of the strongest spells in the game.



* KarmaHoudini: [[spoiler:Zehlam]]

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* %%* KarmaHoudini: [[spoiler:Zehlam]]



*** A good listing of these monsters, including pictures, is [[http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/608644-dragon-quest-monsters-joker-2-professional/58714650?page=2 available here.]]



* YouWillBeAssimilated: [[spoiler:Rigor Mortex's]] mondus operandi.
4th Dec '14 10:25:18 AM Tavernier
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* FakeUltimateMook: While the giant monsters introduced in this game and fearsome and powerful and very threatening to new players with weaker monsters, competitively they start to trip all over themselves. As mentioned under Fake Balance above, without a skill that allows them to strike more than once per turn, the giant monsters are sitting ducks for equally powerful small monsters to take on.



* InevitableTournament: Mulitples.

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* InevitableTournament: Mulitples.Multiples.
29th Nov '14 8:44:49 PM Tavernier
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** [[spoiler: Solitaire makes a return, and uses the exact same team as she did in the previous game.]]

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** [[spoiler: Solitaire makes a return, and uses the exact same her team as maps almost perfectly from the first game; unfortunately, new size rules mean she did in had to drop the previous game.]]Metal Kaiser Slime, but she still has Atlas and Jabber-Wockee]].
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