History VideoGame / DevilSurvivor

7th Sep '16 5:09:53 PM Eagal
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* GodIsEvil: [[spoiler:Subverted, contrary to expectations for the franchise. At first you'll probably think God is behind everything given how the Shomonkai act mysteriously and the [=COMPs=] seem to come from them... but then you find out they're worshipping a demon, not God, that it's the equivalent of a CorruptCorporateExecutive handing out the [=COMPs=], and to top it all off, you find out that an archangel hitched a ride in their Maiden's mind ''in order to save her and to help you out'', on orders from the Big Man Himself, who actually doesn't want to see humanity get hurt and will only resort to extreme measures if the demons gain a permanent foothold on the Earth. You proceed to get some help from the Big Man on most of the routes where you don't choose blatantly selfish/evil options.]]
** Overclocked reveals that [[spoiler:Cain was set up by God to be the first murderer and Abel to be a martyr. Even then he is far more morally ambiguous than in past games. The Four Seraphs that represent a "hardline" God - Uriel, Raphael, Michael, and Gabriel - were also nearly summoned by Metatron in the Overlord 8th Day as well.]]
** [[spoiler:God finally takes this position in the Overlord 8th Day, after the player character forces His hand. The Lockdown during the main game was understandable: the demons spread like wildfire, and containment was paramount. In the Overlord 8th Day, God has pretty much taken all of Tokyo hostage, and has made it quite plain he'll [[TheTokyoFireball wipe it off the face of the earth]] with everyone inside it unless the people bring him the MC's head. What follows is the people trapped inside going nuts, begging you to die so that they can be free. As Naoya said, God is playing on your human weakness.]]

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* GodIsEvil: [[spoiler:Subverted, Subverted, contrary to expectations for the franchise. At first you'll probably think God is behind everything given how the Shomonkai act mysteriously and the [=COMPs=] seem to come from them... but then you find out they're worshipping [[spoiler:worshipping a demon, not God, God,]] that it's the equivalent of a CorruptCorporateExecutive handing out the [=COMPs=], and to top it all off, you find out that an archangel hitched [[spoiler:hitched a ride in their Maiden's mind ''in order to save her and to help you out'', out'',]] on orders from the Big Man Himself, God himself, who actually doesn't want to see humanity get hurt and will only resort to extreme measures if the demons gain a permanent foothold on the Earth. You proceed to get some help from the Big Man on most of the routes where you don't choose blatantly selfish/evil options.]]
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** Overclocked reveals that [[spoiler:Cain was set up by God to be the first murderer and Abel to be a martyr. ]] Even then he is far more morally ambiguous than in past games. The Four Seraphs that represent a "hardline" God - Uriel, Raphael, Michael, and Gabriel - were also nearly summoned by Metatron in the Overlord 8th Day as well.]]
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** [[spoiler:God God finally takes this position in the Overlord 8th Day, after the player character forces His hand. The Lockdown during the main game was understandable: the demons spread like wildfire, and containment was paramount. In the Overlord 8th Day, God [[spoiler:God has pretty much taken all of Tokyo hostage, and has made it quite plain he'll [[TheTokyoFireball wipe it off the face of the earth]] with everyone inside it unless the people bring him the MC's head. What follows is the people trapped inside going nuts, begging you to die so that they can be free. As Naoya said, God is playing on your human weakness.]]
5th Sep '16 8:05:54 PM Ramidel
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* SorcerersApprenticePlot:
** All those [=COMPs=] getting distributed through various means (both through the Shomonkai, the black market and random chance) are not consistently used for good and end up causing much mayhem and destruction in the hands of corrupt or inexperienced users. The sorcerer, of course, is [[spoiler: Naoya, creator of the Demon Summoning Program]].
** [[spoiler: If Keisuke is killed]], Atsuro comes to think of his plan to take over the Demon Summoning Server as this, and abandons it rather than giving humanity even more potential to misuse their power over demons. [[spoiler: This is unfortunate, because his plan really can save the world even if all other methods are blocked off.]]
13th Aug '16 7:57:02 AM Ramidel
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* BeautyEqualsGoodness: Invoked by Amane and the Shomonkai when defending Shibuya Park against demons. They know that the locals are going to be scared of independent Demon Tamers, so they use goddesses and other demons that don't look like demons.
11th Aug '16 6:09:01 PM AquaRegia
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* WhamLine
-->''Peaceful days are over.''\\
''Let's survive.''
** You get this bombshell midway through day 1.

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* WhamLine
-->''Peaceful days are over.''\\
''Let's survive.''
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WhamLine: You get this bombshell midway through day 1.
10th Aug '16 12:48:13 PM Willbyr
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''Devil Survivor'' is an interesting fusion of the old with the new. The basic scenario and first-person battle system is very similar to that of ''ShinMegamiTenseiI'' but with the modern style and character-driven gameplay of ''VideoGame/{{Persona 3}}'' and ''VideoGame/{{Persona 4}}''. ''Devil Survivor'' is also the most player-friendly ''Franchise/ShinMegamiTensei'' game yet: players can not only see a list of the demons that they can fuse and how to fuse them, but they can choose exactly what skills they inherit and even teach them new abilities. ''Don't'' take this to mean that Atlus is making the game any ''easier'', because [[NintendoHard they're not]].

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''Devil Survivor'' is an interesting fusion of the old with the new. The basic scenario and first-person battle system is very similar to that of ''ShinMegamiTenseiI'' ''Franchise/ShinMegamiTenseiI'' but with the modern style and character-driven gameplay of ''VideoGame/{{Persona 3}}'' and ''VideoGame/{{Persona 4}}''. ''Devil Survivor'' is also the most player-friendly ''Franchise/ShinMegamiTensei'' ''Shin Megami Tensei'' game yet: players can not only see a list of the demons that they can fuse and how to fuse them, but they can choose exactly what skills they inherit and even teach them new abilities. ''Don't'' take this to mean that Atlus is making the game any ''easier'', because [[NintendoHard they're not]].



* SecretTestOfCharacter: The demon invasion and lockdown was actually [[spoiler:planned by God]] as humanity's LastSecondChance. If they fail, then they will lose control of their own destinies and be ruled by the Kingdom of Heaven forever. Then if you follow the Lawful path they lose the control to the Kingdom of Heavens anyway, just with you as the middleman. [[CrapsackWorld Such]] is ShinMegamiTensei.

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* SecretTestOfCharacter: The demon invasion and lockdown was actually [[spoiler:planned by God]] as humanity's LastSecondChance. If they fail, then they will lose control of their own destinies and be ruled by the Kingdom of Heaven forever. Then if you follow the Lawful path they lose the control to the Kingdom of Heavens anyway, just with you as the middleman. [[CrapsackWorld Such]] is ShinMegamiTensei.Franchise/ShinMegamiTensei.
24th Jul '16 7:11:17 PM Ramidel
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* ScrewDestiny: The Death Clock simply counts to the ''extremely likely'' day of death. The trio is able to bump up their initial 0 by beating the demon that would've killed them. Arguably the recurring theme of the game is to ScrewDestiny.

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* ScrewDestiny: The Death Clock simply counts to the ''extremely likely'' day of death. The trio is able to bump up their initial 0 by beating the demon that would've killed them. Arguably The narrator in the recurring theme of the game is beginning, [[spoiler: Metatron]], explicitly tells you to ScrewDestiny.fight against your destiny as a human.
16th Jul '16 12:14:07 PM nombretomado
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* SerialEscalation: Atlus claims that ''Overclocked'' is the largest game to have been voiced. In fact, it was so large, they thought it [[CrowningMomentOfFunny wouldn't fit inside the 3DS' cartridge]]. [[http://www.siliconera.com/2011/03/04/devil-survivor-overclocked-has-the-most-voiced-dialogue-of-any-atlus-game/ According to this post]], ''Devil Survivor'' has approximately 20,000 words voiced, 5,000 of that for 8th Day alone. Even these statistics are surprising, because games like ''{{Catherine}}'' and ''VideoGame/{{Persona 4}}'' have large chunks of voice-over, the former of which ''has'' a full voice-over. On another note, this justifies the ObviousBeta for the VO (see other tropes for further info).

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* SerialEscalation: Atlus claims that ''Overclocked'' is the largest game to have been voiced. In fact, it was so large, they thought it [[CrowningMomentOfFunny wouldn't fit inside the 3DS' cartridge]]. [[http://www.siliconera.com/2011/03/04/devil-survivor-overclocked-has-the-most-voiced-dialogue-of-any-atlus-game/ According to this post]], ''Devil Survivor'' has approximately 20,000 words voiced, 5,000 of that for 8th Day alone. Even these statistics are surprising, because games like ''{{Catherine}}'' ''VideoGame/{{Catherine}}'' and ''VideoGame/{{Persona 4}}'' have large chunks of voice-over, the former of which ''has'' a full voice-over. On another note, this justifies the ObviousBeta for the VO (see other tropes for further info).



** Subverted while still being played straight by the 8th Day of the same route, which shows the repercusions of your acts, and involves taking responsiblity for them [[spoiler:or if you failed to save Gin or do the barrier events, ends badly for everyone]].

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** Subverted while still being played straight by the 8th Day of the same route, which shows the repercusions repercussions of your acts, and involves taking responsiblity responsibility for them [[spoiler:or if you failed to save Gin or do the barrier events, ends badly for everyone]].
15th Jul '16 2:00:12 PM Willbyr
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* {{Deconstruction}}: One of the main levels on which the game works is as an absolutely ''horrific'' deconstruction of the entire concept of {{Mons}} (far beyond even what other titles in the SMT franchise do; we're talking ''{{Narutaru}}'' levels of disturbing) in that it demonstrates exactly how people running around with monsters capable of lethal force in an urban setting would ''actually'' work.

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* {{Deconstruction}}: One of the main levels on which the game works is as an absolutely ''horrific'' deconstruction of the entire concept of {{Mons}} (far beyond even what other titles in the SMT franchise do; we're talking ''{{Narutaru}}'' ''Manga/{{Narutaru}}'' levels of disturbing) in that it demonstrates exactly how people running around with monsters capable of lethal force in an urban setting would ''actually'' work.
13th Jul '16 3:36:04 PM LucaEarlgrey
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* NintendoHard
** [[spoiler: Seriously, who was expecting to fight ''every freaking Bel'' you've defeated, in a row without after-battle recovery after taking on a TOWER? Admittedly, if you had subjected yourself to some serious level-grinding, you would've been more prepared, but ''still,'' it's pretty intense.]]
** [[spoiler: Fortunately, the gimmicks from most of the previous boss fights are gone, such as Jezebel's LethalLavaLand and Belberith's moving platforms.]]
16th Jun '16 10:50:04 PM Ramidel
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* TheExtremistWasRight: [[spoiler: Subverted. In Yuzu's 8th day, it's explained that without your interference, the Shomonkai founder's plan to summon and empower Belberith enough to deflect God's Judgement worked, [[AuthorsSavingThrow thus explaining why God didn't just wipe out Tokyo Himself once the lockdown failed like they said He would]]. However, now the world has a ''new'' problem that's shaping up to be even worse than TheTokyoFireball.]]



* TheExtremistWasRight: [[spoiler: In Yuzu's 8th day, it's explained that without your interference, the Shomonkai founder's plan to summon and empower Belberith enough to deflect God's Judgement worked, [[AuthorsSavingThrow thus explaining why God didn't just wipe out Tokyo Himself once the lockdown failed like they said He would]].]]
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