History VideoGame / DevilSurvivor

19th Jan '16 11:37:38 AM Willbyr
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See also ''Manga/MiraiNikki'' for a similar concept of "Laplace Mail". Compare and contrast ''VideoGame/TheWorldEndsWithYou'', which also features a seven-day storyline in Shibuya.
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See also ''Manga/MiraiNikki'' ''Manga/FutureDiary'' for a similar concept of "Laplace Mail". Compare and contrast ''VideoGame/TheWorldEndsWithYou'', which also features a seven-day storyline in Shibuya.

* GreaterScopeVillain: It takes a number of [[RewatchBonus playthroughs]] of each of the routes and a [[ViewersAreGeniuses keen eye,]] but ultimately the true GreaterScopeVillain is [[spoiler: as usual, God. While He's certainly a more nuanced and level-handed portrayal than the raging lunatic Megaten usually portrays Him as, all the misery in the game can be traced back to Him: the lockdown and all that came with it was in actuality His idea (granted the alternative was the complete destruction of humanity, which is what the angels wanted. God instituted the lockdown to give humanity a chance to prove themselves), as well as Cain/Naoya's murder of Abel way back when.]] * GreyAndGrayMorality: The four successful endings, as usual for a ''MegaTen'' game, all have their pros and cons. [[spoiler: Yuzu]]'s ending is more Black, but it's also not portrayed as the protagonist's agenda but as an [[NiceJobBreakingItHero unforeseen consequence]] of it. [[spoiler: At least in Overclocked, you're given a chance to undo the damage you caused with your flight.]]
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* GreaterScopeVillain: It takes a number of [[RewatchBonus playthroughs]] of each of the routes and a [[ViewersAreGeniuses keen eye,]] but ultimately the true GreaterScopeVillain is [[spoiler: as usual, God. While He's certainly a more nuanced and level-handed portrayal than the raging lunatic Megaten [=MegaTen=] usually portrays Him as, all the misery in the game can be traced back to Him: the lockdown and all that came with it was in actuality His idea (granted the alternative was the complete destruction of humanity, which is what the angels wanted. God instituted the lockdown to give humanity a chance to prove themselves), as well as Cain/Naoya's murder of Abel way back when.]] * GreyAndGrayMorality: The four successful endings, as usual for a ''MegaTen'' ''[=MegaTen=]'' game, all have their pros and cons. [[spoiler: Yuzu]]'s ending is more Black, but it's also not portrayed as the protagonist's agenda but as an [[NiceJobBreakingItHero unforeseen consequence]] of it. [[spoiler: At least in Overclocked, you're given a chance to undo the damage you caused with your flight.]]

** True to MegaTen tradition, [[spoiler:the angels]] also fall under this.
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** True to MegaTen [=MegaTen=] tradition, [[spoiler:the angels]] also fall under this.

* LightIsNotGood: [[spoiler: Once again, angels show up to be condescending {{Jerkass}}es in a MegaTen game. Not to mention Belberith, the demon lord of light.]] Surprisingly though, [[spoiler:God Himself comes off as a pretty nice guy, just one surrounded by subordinates who take the Lawful part of His Lawful Goodness a bit too far]].
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* LightIsNotGood: [[spoiler: Once again, angels show up to be condescending {{Jerkass}}es in a MegaTen [=MegaTen=] game. Not to mention Belberith, the demon lord of light.]] Surprisingly though, [[spoiler:God Himself comes off as a pretty nice guy, just one surrounded by subordinates who take the Lawful part of His Lawful Goodness a bit too far]].

** While it may be unintentional but this is the second time a Megaten ever elaborated on how the Demon Summoning Program works [[spoiler: by using programming code to replicate a summoning ritual]]. The other title that used this explanation was Literature/DigitalDevilStory, from nearly 20 years ago!
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** While it may be unintentional but this is the second time a Megaten [=MegaTen=] ever elaborated on how the Demon Summoning Program works [[spoiler: by using programming code to replicate a summoning ritual]]. The other title that used this explanation was Literature/DigitalDevilStory, from nearly 20 years ago!
24th Dec '15 2:49:54 PM tatsuya_suou
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* TheCallKnowsWhereYouLive: The Main Character's destiny seems to follow him at every corner but you can subvert it [[RefusalOfTheCall by running away,]] however, this nets you the [[DownerEnding worst ending in the game, though Overclocked adds an 8th Day for Yuzu's route that makes you EarnYourHappyEnding.
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* TheCallKnowsWhereYouLive: The Main Character's destiny seems to follow him at every corner but you can subvert it [[RefusalOfTheCall by running away,]] however, this nets you the [[DownerEnding worst ending in the game, game]], though Overclocked adds an 8th Day for Yuzu's route that makes you EarnYourHappyEnding.
29th Nov '15 7:47:56 PM Josef5678
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Misuse. Developers Foresight is when the game has a response for unlikely player actions.
** Averted [[spoiler:in Naoya's Bad 8th Day, where the humans you fight actually die, including Amane. Played straight with Yuzu and Midori.]] * TheDevTeamThinksOfEverything: In a NewGamePlus, it's possible to start a new game with a full demon registry in your COMP. The first fight of the game requires you to recruit three demons, so there's special dialogue if your COMP is full at this point and they therefore have nowhere to go. ** GenreSavvy players, at first, will think that blocking a square that will be occupied by an incoming enemy unit will prevent them from coming out. Unfortunately, that won't stop new enemies from just walking past by and occupy another square beside the characters "blocking the way".
26th Oct '15 1:21:33 PM daftinquisitor
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* ThereCanBeOnlyOne: The Bels.
24th Oct '15 8:00:12 PM Eagal
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* TheComplainerIsAlwaysWrong: Yuzu will always say that you should all run away and escape the quarantine area. This is the exact opposite of what you should do. [[spoiler:Unless, of course, you ''want'' the worst ending in the game.]] ** [[spoiler:And/or the ability to have Remiel in your ranks. Which is needed to fuse Metatron. And also it is the easier route by far to end and get the NewGamePlus benefits. ...So even with being the BadEnding, it is still the best as first ending...]] ** [[spoiler: Not the bad ending anymore thanks to Overclocked's 8th Day scenario of the route, in which you atone for the consequences wrought by your breaking through the lockdown. Viewed in full, the Yuzu route plays out more like a botched attempt at a EarnYourHappyEnding with ''extremely unexpected'' consequences, then goes on to a '''real''' EarnYourHappyEnding.]]
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* TheComplainerIsAlwaysWrong: Yuzu will always say that you should all run away and escape the quarantine area. This is the exact opposite of what you should do. [[spoiler:Unless, of course, you ''want'' do, as it leads to the worst ending in the game.]] ** [[spoiler:And/or the ability to have Remiel in your ranks. Which is needed to fuse Metatron. And also it is the easier route by far to end and get the NewGamePlus benefits. ...So even BadEnding. Though with being the BadEnding, Overlocked's 8th Day option, it is still may well be the best as first ending...]] ** [[spoiler: Not (rather, the bad ending anymore thanks to Overclocked's 8th Day scenario least shitty) of all the route, in which you atone for the consequences wrought by your breaking through the lockdown. Viewed in full, the Yuzu route plays out more like a botched attempt at a EarnYourHappyEnding with ''extremely unexpected'' consequences, then goes on to a '''real''' EarnYourHappyEnding.]]endings.
24th Oct '15 7:58:00 PM Eagal
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* BossRush: The [[spoiler: Messiah/Law Ending]] and [[spoiler: Overlord/Chaos Ending]] both have the party facing off with ALL the previous Bels. [[ThatOneBoss Even the one you defeated moments earlier.]] And the one that [[AchillesHeel can only be harmed]] [[spoiler: ''[[AchillesHeel by being punched with a cell-phone strap]]'' (luckily you keep it handy and need to dispatch the party member who has it, but sucks for you if he's dead by now).]]
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* BossRush: The [[spoiler: Messiah/Law Ending]] and [[spoiler: Overlord/Chaos Ending]] both have the party facing off with ALL the previous Bels. [[ThatOneBoss Even the one you defeated moments earlier.]] And the one that [[AchillesHeel can only be harmed]] [[spoiler: ''[[AchillesHeel by being punched with a cell-phone strap]]'' (luckily you keep it handy and need to dispatch the party member who has it, but sucks for you if he's dead by now).]]

* TheCallKnowsWhereYouLive: The Main Character's destiny seems to follow him at every corner but you can subvert it [[RefusalOfTheCall by running away,]] however, [[spoiler: this nets you the [[DownerEnding worst ending in the game.]]]] ** [[spoiler:...until Overclocked's [[EarnYourHappyEnding 8th Day Yuzu route happened.]]]]
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* TheCallKnowsWhereYouLive: The Main Character's destiny seems to follow him at every corner but you can subvert it [[RefusalOfTheCall by running away,]] however, [[spoiler: this nets you the [[DownerEnding worst ending in the game.]]]] ** [[spoiler:...until Overclocked's [[EarnYourHappyEnding game, though Overclocked adds an 8th Day Yuzu for Yuzu's route happened.]]]]that makes you EarnYourHappyEnding.
24th Oct '15 7:55:57 PM Eagal
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* BoltOfDivineRetribution: [[spoiler:NonstandardGameOver that wipes all life within the Yamanote Loop.]] ** [[spoiler:Except in Yuzu's 8th Day as Belberith [[NoSell absorbs it]].]]
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* BoltOfDivineRetribution: [[spoiler:NonstandardGameOver BoltOfDivineRetribution: ** NonStandardGameOver that wipes all life within the Yamanote Loop.]] ** [[spoiler:Except Loop, except in Yuzu's 8th Day as Belberith [[NoSell absorbs it]].]]
24th Oct '15 7:54:49 PM Eagal
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** In Yuzu's 8th Day, [[spoiler: Take-Mikazuchi, the demon Gin made a contract with, can become Jikoku's (the Deva Jezebel!Amane defeated) replacement as Guardian of the East. It opens up an EscortMission to protect Gin until the ritual to restore the Tokyo Barrier is complete, so, even if not for long, Gin ''himself'' kind-of becomes one too.]]
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** In Yuzu's 8th Day, [[spoiler: Take-Mikazuchi, Take-Mikazuchi]], the demon Gin [[spoiler: Gin]] made a contract with, can become Jikoku's (the Deva Jezebel!Amane defeated) Amane defeated with Jezebel's power) replacement as Guardian of the East. It opens up an EscortMission to protect Gin until the ritual to restore the Tokyo Barrier is complete, so, even if not for long, Gin [[spoiler: Gin]] ''himself'' kind-of becomes one too.]]
24th Oct '15 7:52:43 PM Eagal
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** For a more specific example, salaryman Honda wants to see his critically-wounded son undergo surgery, but said son is on the other side of the Yamanote loop, leaving Honda unable to stand by his son's side for the operation. In Yuzu's ending, [[spoiler:Honda's son dies, plunging him past the DespairEventHorizon]].
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** For a more specific example, salaryman Honda wants to see his critically-wounded son undergo surgery, but said son is on the other side of the Yamanote loop, leaving Honda unable to stand by his son's side for the operation. In Yuzu's ending, [[spoiler:Honda's son dies, dies]], plunging him past the DespairEventHorizon]].DespairEventHorizon.
24th Oct '15 7:51:45 PM Eagal
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* SealedEvilInASixPack: A variant: Bel, the ruler of the demons, was sundered by God, but not technically "sealed" as such. Instead, the individual demons he was broken up into -- all easily recognized by the syllable "Bel" in their names -- have been fighting each other for supremacy, consuming each other in the process in the hopes of reconstituting the original Bel's power and ascending to the Throne of Bel. [[spoiler: The Shomonkai exists to help Belberith, who they worship as "His Majesty," complete this goal so that he can destroy God and spare the world from His ordeal, not realizing that [[EvilIsNotAToy Belberith plans to slaughter humankind once he's done.]]]] The protagonist himself ends up a contender for the Throne of Bel when he defeats [[Myth/NorseMythology Beldr]] and inadvertently absorbs his powers [[spoiler:-- but then, it only makes sense, as he turns out to be the reincarnation of A'''bel''']]. * SecretTestOfCharacter: The demon invasion and lockdown was actually [[spoiler:planned by {{God}} as humanity's LastSecondChance. If they fail, then they will lose control of their own destinies and be ruled by the Kingdom of Heaven forever.]] ** [[spoiler: Then if you follow the Lawful path they lose the control to the Kingdom of Heavens [[GodIsEvil anyway]], just with you as the middleman...]]
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* SealedEvilInASixPack: A variant: Bel, the ruler of the demons, was sundered by God, but not technically "sealed" as such. Instead, the individual demons he was broken up into -- all easily recognized by the syllable "Bel" in their names -- have been fighting each other for supremacy, consuming each other in the process in the hopes of reconstituting the original Bel's power and ascending to the Throne of Bel. [[spoiler: The Shomonkai exists to help Belberith, who they worship as "His Majesty," complete this goal so that he can destroy God and spare the world from His ordeal, not realizing that [[EvilIsNotAToy Belberith plans to slaughter humankind once he's done.]]]] ]] The protagonist himself ends up a contender for the Throne of Bel when he defeats [[Myth/NorseMythology Beldr]] and inadvertently absorbs his powers [[spoiler:-- but then, it only makes sense, as he turns out to be the reincarnation of A'''bel''']]. * SecretTestOfCharacter: The demon invasion and lockdown was actually [[spoiler:planned by {{God}} God]] as humanity's LastSecondChance. If they fail, then they will lose control of their own destinies and be ruled by the Kingdom of Heaven forever.]] ** [[spoiler: Then if you follow the Lawful path they lose the control to the Kingdom of Heavens [[GodIsEvil anyway]], anyway, just with you as the middleman...]]middleman. [[CrapsackWorld Such]] is ShinMegamiTensei.

* SNKBoss: [[spoiler: Lucifer]] is one of the hardest [[BonusBoss Bonus Bosses]] of the franchise, being pretty much impossible to defeat without RIDICULOUS preparation (we're talking about full level 99 custom teams, which takes '''days''' of intense LevelGrinding)... And even then, there's still an very large probability you'll lose. [[spoiler: Lucifer]] on his own is ''extremely'' tough (where, if this was all it came to, mean you'd need one or two teams almost completely dedicated to healing and resurrecting), but he's accompanied by infinitely respawning teams of incredibly powerful demons (among them [[DemonicSpiders Decarabias, Ariochs]] and even freakin' ''Astaroth'') [[TheComputerIsACheatingBastard with computer-only boosted attributes, not stats,]] '''[[TheComputerIsACheatingBastard attributes]]''', has three phases with different skills each and every time he changes phase, he becomes fully healed. And [[FromBadToWorse it gets much worse.]] [[OhCrap Your face will be worth a million dollar shot when you see the words]] ''[[ThatOneAttack Megidoladyne]]'' [[ThisIsGonnaSuck appear in your screen.]] Hell, it's so bad that you pretty much have to use a GameBreaker strategy to beat him.
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* SNKBoss: [[spoiler: Lucifer]] is one of the hardest [[BonusBoss Bonus Bosses]] of the franchise, being pretty much impossible to defeat without RIDICULOUS preparation (we're talking about full level 99 custom teams, which takes '''days''' of intense LevelGrinding)... And even then, there's still an very large probability you'll lose. [[spoiler: Lucifer]] on his own is ''extremely'' tough (where, if this was all it came to, mean you'd need one or two teams almost completely dedicated to healing and resurrecting), but he's accompanied by infinitely respawning teams of incredibly powerful demons (among them [[DemonicSpiders Decarabias, Ariochs]] and even freakin' ''Astaroth'') [[TheComputerIsACheatingBastard with computer-only boosted attributes, not stats,]] '''[[TheComputerIsACheatingBastard attributes]]''', attributes]], has three phases with different skills each and every time he changes phase, he becomes fully healed. And [[FromBadToWorse if you don't kill him quickly enough, he'll cast Megidoladyne, a field attack that does almighty damage (which can't be resisted) to every one of your teams and grows stronger every time it's cast, meaning even if you can weather it gets much worse.]] [[OhCrap Your face a few times, it will be worth a million dollar shot when you see eventually do more than the words]] ''[[ThatOneAttack Megidoladyne]]'' [[ThisIsGonnaSuck appear in your screen.]] Hell, it's so bad that you pretty much have to use a GameBreaker strategy to beat him.HP cap of 999,
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