History VideoGame / DevilSurvivor

7th Dec '16 6:03:21 PM Xtifr
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'''Devil Survivor''' is a StrategyRPG game in the ''Franchise/ShinMegamiTensei'' {{Spinoff}} series ''Megami Ibunroku'' / "Alternate Tales of the Goddess", developed by {{Atlus}} and released in 2009.

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'''Devil Survivor''' ''Devil Survivor'' is a StrategyRPG game in the ''Franchise/ShinMegamiTensei'' {{Spinoff}} series ''Megami Ibunroku'' / "Alternate Tales of the Goddess", developed by {{Atlus}} and released in 2009.
7th Nov '16 1:18:29 PM TaylorHyuuga
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** For a more specific example, salaryman Honda wants to see his critically-wounded son undergo surgery, but said son is on the other side of the Yamanote loop, leaving Honda unable to stand by his son's side for the operation. In Yuzu's ending, [[spoiler:Honda's son dies]], plunging him past the DespairEventHorizon.

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** For a more specific example, salaryman Honda wants to see his critically-wounded son undergo surgery, but said son is on the other side of the Yamanote loop, leaving Honda unable to stand by his son's side for the operation. In Yuzu's almost every ending, [[spoiler:Honda's son dies]], plunging him past the DespairEventHorizon.
27th Oct '16 2:11:51 AM Eyeshield
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** One of the main levels on which the game works is as an absolutely ''horrific'' deconstruction of the entire concept of {{Mons}} (far beyond even what other titles in the SMT franchise do; we're talking ''Manga/{{Narutaru}}'' levels of disturbing) in that it demonstrates exactly how people running around with monsters capable of lethal force in an urban setting would ''actually'' work.

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** One of the main levels on which the game works is as an absolutely ''horrific'' deconstruction of the entire concept of {{Mons}} (far ([[UpToEleven far beyond even what other titles in the SMT franchise do; do]]; we're talking ''Manga/{{Narutaru}}'' levels of disturbing) in that it demonstrates exactly how people running around with monsters capable of lethal force in an urban setting would ''actually'' work.



** On the humans' side, we have Izuna. Pretty decent physical attack, vitality and agility, but her magic parameter is 5 when she joins you, meaning that any demon's magic can knock her out instantly. And even at Level 99, her magic parameter barely reaches the dougle digits.

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** On the humans' side, we have Izuna. Pretty decent physical attack, vitality and agility, but her magic parameter is 5 when she joins you, meaning that any demon's magic can knock her out instantly. And even at Level 99, her magic parameter barely reaches the dougle double digits.
12th Oct '16 8:59:02 PM LucaEarlgrey
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** The game has an option to skip ahead in time. This seems like a "[[PressXToDie why would you do this]] when you can do meaningful events to pass the time" mechanic, but it is possible to end up in a situation where there are no events that advance the InUniverseGameClock. In fact, the first time you end up in such a situation, the game will point out how to advance time.

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** The game has an option to skip ahead in time. This seems like a "[[PressXToDie why would you do this]] when you can do meaningful events to pass the time" mechanic, but it is possible to end up in a situation where there are no events that advance the InUniverseGameClock.InUniverseGameClock; without such a feature, you'd be in an UnwinnableByMistake situation. In fact, the first time you end up in such a situation, the game will point out how to advance time.
12th Oct '16 8:58:29 PM LucaEarlgrey
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* AntiFrustrationFeatures: The player can skip the entire bidding process at the Devil Auction by picking the "Buy Now" option and get the demon for a relatively high price instead.

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The player can skip the entire bidding process at the Devil Auction by picking the "Buy Now" option and get the demon for a relatively high price instead.instead.
** The game has an option to skip ahead in time. This seems like a "[[PressXToDie why would you do this]] when you can do meaningful events to pass the time" mechanic, but it is possible to end up in a situation where there are no events that advance the InUniverseGameClock. In fact, the first time you end up in such a situation, the game will point out how to advance time.
11th Oct '16 1:27:10 PM dragonfire5000
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* {{Deconstruction}}: One of the main levels on which the game works is as an absolutely ''horrific'' deconstruction of the entire concept of {{Mons}} (far beyond even what other titles in the SMT franchise do; we're talking ''Manga/{{Narutaru}}'' levels of disturbing) in that it demonstrates exactly how people running around with monsters capable of lethal force in an urban setting would ''actually'' work.

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* {{Deconstruction}}: {{Deconstruction}}:
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One of the main levels on which the game works is as an absolutely ''horrific'' deconstruction of the entire concept of {{Mons}} (far beyond even what other titles in the SMT franchise do; we're talking ''Manga/{{Narutaru}}'' levels of disturbing) in that it demonstrates exactly how people running around with monsters capable of lethal force in an urban setting would ''actually'' work.



** The series also deconstructs the GodIsEvil tendencies [[InternalDeconstruction of the main franchise]] by assuming that God has a benevolent motivation for His actions. Humanity now has the power to destroy its world, or to threaten God's dominion, and as mentioned above, most humans really aren't very responsible with it. When God attempts to wipe out Tokyo in this game, He's trying to prevent the global catastrophe of a demonic outbreak, or to re-can the worms once it's happened. Viewed in that light, God comes across less as an EvilOverlord and more as a ''person'' dealing with a situation gone badly off the rails.
* DefeatMeansFriendship: The main way to get new demons.

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** The series also deconstructs the GodIsEvil tendencies [[InternalDeconstruction of the main franchise]] by assuming that God has a benevolent motivation for His actions. Humanity now has the power to destroy its world, or to threaten God's dominion, and as mentioned above, most humans really aren't very responsible with it. When God attempts to wipe out Tokyo in this game, He's trying to prevent the global catastrophe of a demonic outbreak, or to re-can the worms once it's happened. Viewed in that light, God comes across less as an EvilOverlord and more as a ''person'' dealing with a situation gone badly off the rails.
* DefeatMeansFriendship: The main way to get new demons.



*** Actually, Any demons that YOU summon can be recruited by beating them. However, the only time that you get to summon your own demons is at the start of the game, for the tutorial level. (This happens to several other characters along the way the first time they get their own [=COMP=])

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*** Actually, ** Any demons that YOU summon can be recruited by beating them. However, the only time that you get to summon your own demons is at the start of the game, for the tutorial level. (This happens to several other characters along the way the first time they get their own [=COMP=])



* DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu: The Main Character defeating [[spoiler: Beldr]], who was [[spoiler:completely invincible to everything but the devil's fuge (i.e., a ''cellphone strap with faux-mistletoe leaves on it.'')]] Interestingly, this occurs on [[YourPrincessIsInAnotherCastle Day 3]].

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* DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu: DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu:
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The Main Character defeating [[spoiler: Beldr]], who was [[spoiler:completely invincible to everything but the devil's fuge (i.e., a ''cellphone strap with faux-mistletoe leaves on it.'')]] Interestingly, this occurs on [[YourPrincessIsInAnotherCastle Day 3]].
27th Sep '16 10:41:50 AM Ramidel
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** This is most obvious in the [[spoiler: event where Kaido and Keisuke confront one another, which is almost [[{{Narm}} narmy]] in how it's set up ''exactly'' like some twisted demonic Franchise/{{Pokemon}} battle (facing each other across a street with the two "mons" in between, shouting commands, etc)... and then, unless you've played your cards exactly right, one side loses and the other's demon ''graphically murders'' the opponent at its master's urging. Enjoy your Pikachus now, kids! ]]

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** This is most obvious in the [[spoiler: event where Kaido and Keisuke confront one another, which is almost [[{{Narm}} narmy]] in how it's set up ''exactly'' like some twisted demonic Franchise/{{Pokemon}} battle (facing each other across a street with the two "mons" in between, shouting commands, etc)... and then, unless you've played your cards exactly right, one side loses and the other's demon ''graphically murders'' the opponent at its master's urging. Enjoy your Pikachus now, kids! ]]kids!]]


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** The series also deconstructs the GodIsEvil tendencies [[InternalDeconstruction of the main franchise]] by assuming that God has a benevolent motivation for His actions. Humanity now has the power to destroy its world, or to threaten God's dominion, and as mentioned above, most humans really aren't very responsible with it. When God attempts to wipe out Tokyo in this game, He's trying to prevent the global catastrophe of a demonic outbreak, or to re-can the worms once it's happened. Viewed in that light, God comes across less as an EvilOverlord and more as a ''person'' dealing with a situation gone badly off the rails.
7th Sep '16 5:09:53 PM Eagal
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* GodIsEvil: [[spoiler:Subverted, contrary to expectations for the franchise. At first you'll probably think God is behind everything given how the Shomonkai act mysteriously and the [=COMPs=] seem to come from them... but then you find out they're worshipping a demon, not God, that it's the equivalent of a CorruptCorporateExecutive handing out the [=COMPs=], and to top it all off, you find out that an archangel hitched a ride in their Maiden's mind ''in order to save her and to help you out'', on orders from the Big Man Himself, who actually doesn't want to see humanity get hurt and will only resort to extreme measures if the demons gain a permanent foothold on the Earth. You proceed to get some help from the Big Man on most of the routes where you don't choose blatantly selfish/evil options.]]
** Overclocked reveals that [[spoiler:Cain was set up by God to be the first murderer and Abel to be a martyr. Even then he is far more morally ambiguous than in past games. The Four Seraphs that represent a "hardline" God - Uriel, Raphael, Michael, and Gabriel - were also nearly summoned by Metatron in the Overlord 8th Day as well.]]
** [[spoiler:God finally takes this position in the Overlord 8th Day, after the player character forces His hand. The Lockdown during the main game was understandable: the demons spread like wildfire, and containment was paramount. In the Overlord 8th Day, God has pretty much taken all of Tokyo hostage, and has made it quite plain he'll [[TheTokyoFireball wipe it off the face of the earth]] with everyone inside it unless the people bring him the MC's head. What follows is the people trapped inside going nuts, begging you to die so that they can be free. As Naoya said, God is playing on your human weakness.]]

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* GodIsEvil: [[spoiler:Subverted, Subverted, contrary to expectations for the franchise. At first you'll probably think God is behind everything given how the Shomonkai act mysteriously and the [=COMPs=] seem to come from them... but then you find out they're worshipping [[spoiler:worshipping a demon, not God, God,]] that it's the equivalent of a CorruptCorporateExecutive handing out the [=COMPs=], and to top it all off, you find out that an archangel hitched [[spoiler:hitched a ride in their Maiden's mind ''in order to save her and to help you out'', out'',]] on orders from the Big Man Himself, God himself, who actually doesn't want to see humanity get hurt and will only resort to extreme measures if the demons gain a permanent foothold on the Earth. You proceed to get some help from the Big Man on most of the routes where you don't choose blatantly selfish/evil options.]]
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** Overclocked reveals that [[spoiler:Cain was set up by God to be the first murderer and Abel to be a martyr. ]] Even then he is far more morally ambiguous than in past games. The Four Seraphs that represent a "hardline" God - Uriel, Raphael, Michael, and Gabriel - were also nearly summoned by Metatron in the Overlord 8th Day as well.]]
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** [[spoiler:God God finally takes this position in the Overlord 8th Day, after the player character forces His hand. The Lockdown during the main game was understandable: the demons spread like wildfire, and containment was paramount. In the Overlord 8th Day, God [[spoiler:God has pretty much taken all of Tokyo hostage, and has made it quite plain he'll [[TheTokyoFireball wipe it off the face of the earth]] with everyone inside it unless the people bring him the MC's head. What follows is the people trapped inside going nuts, begging you to die so that they can be free. As Naoya said, God is playing on your human weakness.]]
5th Sep '16 8:05:54 PM Ramidel
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* SorcerersApprenticePlot:
** All those [=COMPs=] getting distributed through various means (both through the Shomonkai, the black market and random chance) are not consistently used for good and end up causing much mayhem and destruction in the hands of corrupt or inexperienced users. The sorcerer, of course, is [[spoiler: Naoya, creator of the Demon Summoning Program]].
** [[spoiler: If Keisuke is killed]], Atsuro comes to think of his plan to take over the Demon Summoning Server as this, and abandons it rather than giving humanity even more potential to misuse their power over demons. [[spoiler: This is unfortunate, because his plan really can save the world even if all other methods are blocked off.]]
13th Aug '16 7:57:02 AM Ramidel
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* BeautyEqualsGoodness: Invoked by Amane and the Shomonkai when defending Shibuya Park against demons. They know that the locals are going to be scared of independent Demon Tamers, so they use goddesses and other demons that don't look like demons.
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