History VideoGame / ChronoCross

14th Dec '17 7:19:54 PM MagBas
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* ChangingOfTheGuard: ''Chrono Cross'' leaves the main characters from ''VideoGame/ChronoTrigger'' mostly out of the picture in favor of focusing on an entirely new cast not directly related to anything that happened in ''Chrono Trigger''. This bothered a lot of ''Trigger'' fans not only for [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks the obvious reasons]], but because ''Cross''[='s=] backstory involves events that would presumably involve ''Trigger''[='s=] characters, but neglects to mention their ultimate fate -- leaving many fans to conclude that the ''Trigger'' cast was ''[[SuddenSequelDeathSyndrome killed]]''.

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* ChangingOfTheGuard: ''Chrono Cross'' leaves the main characters from ''VideoGame/ChronoTrigger'' mostly out of the picture in favor of focusing on an entirely new cast not directly related to anything that happened in ''Chrono Trigger''. This bothered a lot of ''Trigger'' fans not only for [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks the obvious reasons]], but because ''Cross''[='s=] backstory involves events that would presumably involve ''Trigger''[='s=] characters, but neglects to mention their ultimate fate -- leaving many fans to conclude that the ''Trigger'' cast was ''[[SuddenSequelDeathSyndrome killed]]''.



* CultSoundtrack: The game itself is divisive, but the soundtrack is regarded by almost all who hear it as one of the best in the history of video games.

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* CultSoundtrack: The game itself is divisive, but the soundtrack is regarded by almost all who hear it as one of the best in the history of video games.



* DarkerAndEdgier: Compared to ''VideoGame/ChronoTrigger'' this game has a lot more unpleasantness regarding time travel and FantasticRacism (though ''VisualNovel/RadicalDreamers'' started the trend). This is a large part of the reason why fans are generally split in their opinion of the game.

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* DarkerAndEdgier: Compared to ''VideoGame/ChronoTrigger'' this game has a lot more unpleasantness regarding time travel and FantasticRacism (though ''VisualNovel/RadicalDreamers'' started the trend). This is a large part of the reason why fans are generally split in their opinion of the game.



* HeroicFireRescue: There's an optional scene with Kid that involves doing this. Bonus points for it being a burning ''orphanage''. For ''VideoGame/ChronoTrigger'' fans, though, it's a bit of a PlayerPunch, given that [[spoiler:said orphanage is ''Lucca's house'']].

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* HeroicFireRescue: There's an optional scene with Kid that involves doing this. Bonus points for it being a burning ''orphanage''. For ''VideoGame/ChronoTrigger'' fans, though, it's a bit of a PlayerPunch, given that [[spoiler:said orphanage is ''Lucca's house'']].



* PeopleJars: There's a scene where [[spoiler:Serge switches bodies with Lynx. This leads to a sequence where Serge-as-Lynx has to clone himself and take over that body. We see that body grow in a jar until, at Serge's exact age, the jar shatters.]] This scene was [[{{Fanservice}} popular with the female fans]].

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* PeopleJars: There's a scene where [[spoiler:Serge switches bodies with Lynx. This leads to a sequence where Serge-as-Lynx has to clone himself and take over that body. We see that body grow in a jar until, at Serge's exact age, the jar shatters.]] This scene was [[{{Fanservice}} popular with the female fans]]. ]]



** Many fans believe that [[spoiler:Crono, Marle, and Lucca]] are all dead, due to [[spoiler:Porre's invasion of Guardia and Lynx's attack on Lucca's orphanage]]. They also appear as "ghosts", but see the LivingMemory entry above. [[spoiler:Robo]], who became the [[spoiler:Prometheus Lock keeping the FATE supercomputer in check]], is "killed" near the end of the game, unless it was [[spoiler:a copy of his programming rather than his actual "self"]]. Magus, however, is implied to be alive, though that's a whole 'nother FanWank.

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** Many fans believe that [[spoiler:Crono, Marle, and Lucca]] are all dead, due to [[spoiler:Porre's invasion of Guardia and Lynx's attack on Lucca's orphanage]]. They also appear as "ghosts", but see the LivingMemory entry above. [[spoiler:Robo]], **[[spoiler:Robo]], who became the [[spoiler:Prometheus Lock keeping the FATE supercomputer in check]], is "killed" near the end of the game, unless it was [[spoiler:a copy of his programming rather than his actual "self"]]. Magus, however, is implied to be alive, though that's a whole 'nother FanWank.
14th Dec '17 2:14:02 PM Anddrix
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* CultSoundtrack: The game itself is [[LoveItOrHateIt divisive]], but the soundtrack is regarded by almost all who hear it as one of the best in the history of video games.

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* CultSoundtrack: The game itself is [[LoveItOrHateIt divisive]], divisive, but the soundtrack is regarded by almost all who hear it as one of the best in the history of video games.



* DarkerAndEdgier: Compared to ''VideoGame/ChronoTrigger'' this game has a lot more unpleasantness regarding time travel and FantasticRacism (though ''VisualNovel/RadicalDreamers'' started the trend). This is a large part of the reason why [[LoveItOrHateIt fans are generally split]] in their opinion of the game.

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* DarkerAndEdgier: Compared to ''VideoGame/ChronoTrigger'' this game has a lot more unpleasantness regarding time travel and FantasticRacism (though ''VisualNovel/RadicalDreamers'' started the trend). This is a large part of the reason why [[LoveItOrHateIt fans are generally split]] split in their opinion of the game.
6th Dec '17 5:10:50 PM nombretomado
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* SmallAnnoyingCreature: Poshul, a hideous pink dog that acts like [[TheDarkId an autistic Scooby-Doo mixed with a racist 1940s Japanese stereotype]].

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* SmallAnnoyingCreature: Poshul, a hideous pink dog that acts like [[TheDarkId [[LetsPlay/TheDarkId an autistic Scooby-Doo mixed with a racist 1940s Japanese stereotype]].
28th Nov '17 11:20:57 AM neoXsaga
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* HelloInsertNameHere: The game plays it somewhat weirdly: The names you give the characters are explicitly ''nicknames'', which explains why there are several cases of characters who ''already have names'' getting naming screens. You can call anyone anything you want... with the exception that the game will not let you give Serge the nickname [[VideoGame/ChronoTrigger Crono]].

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* HelloInsertNameHere: The game plays it somewhat weirdly: The names you give the characters are explicitly ''nicknames'', which explains why there are several cases of characters who ''already have names'' getting naming screens. You can call anyone anything you want... with the exception that the game will not let you give Serge the nickname [[VideoGame/ChronoTrigger Crono]].Crono or Chrono]]. You can, however, name him [[NoIndoorVoice CHRONO]].
2nd Nov '17 2:01:24 PM infernape612
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* MadLibsDialogue: A very interesting ''non-voice'' version of this. Because there are LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters, and many characters have their own {{VerbalTic}}s, the side character dialogue was dynamically "tinkered" with for each character, allowing some to call the SilentProtagonist "Sergey", "Mister S", "Sir Serge", etc., and others to drop their g's, add a lisp, or speak all in capitals. Although this generally was pretty good, there were a few goofs where you might have two apostrophes in a row, for example, or a name that ended in two Y's, or a name that just didn't work with a Y at the end (Franco turning into Francoy, for example).

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* MadLibsDialogue: A very interesting ''non-voice'' version of this. Because there are LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters, and many characters have their own {{VerbalTic}}s, {{Verbal Tic}}s, the side character dialogue was dynamically "tinkered" with for each character, allowing some to call the SilentProtagonist "Sergey", "Mister S", "Sir Serge", etc., and others to drop their g's, add a lisp, or speak all in capitals. Although this generally was pretty good, there were a few goofs where you might have two apostrophes in a row, for example, or a name that ended in two Y's, or a name that just didn't work with a Y at the end (Franco turning into Francoy, for example).
17th Oct '17 1:01:52 PM Aipom-pom
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* DubNameChange: Most due to space issues:
** [=Dragon Puppy=] to Draggy
** Farga to Fargo
** Fio to NeoFio
** Kinoko (Mushroom) to Funguy
** Jillbert to Greco
** Gyadarun to Grobyc
** Alf to Guile
** Tsukuyomi to Harle
** Lutianna to Luccia
** Mamacha to Macha
** Marcella to Marcy
** Lucky Dan to Mojo
** Slash to Nikki (so as not to confuse people with the Slash from ''Chrono Trigger'' -- whose name was itself [[DubNameChange changed in the translation]])
** Ishito to Norris
** Tumalu to Pip
** Lazzuly to Razzly
** Skarl to Skelly
** Snakebone Master Jyakotu to Lord Viper (just "Viper" in the profile screens)
** Sprigun to Sprigg
** [=StarChild=] to Starky
** Vancliff/Bancliff to Van
** Yamaneco to Lynx

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* DubNameChange: Most Many of the characters had their names changed, most due to space issues:
** [=Dragon Puppy=] to Draggy
** Farga to Fargo
** Fio to NeoFio
** Kinoko (Mushroom) to Funguy
** Jillbert to Greco
** Gyadarun to Grobyc
** Alf to Guile
** Tsukuyomi to Harle
** Lutianna to Luccia
** Mamacha to Macha
** Marcella to Marcy
** Lucky Dan to Mojo
** Slash to Nikki (so as not to confuse people with the Slash from ''Chrono Trigger'' -- whose name was itself [[DubNameChange changed in the translation]])
** Ishito to Norris
** Tumalu to Pip
** Lazzuly to Razzly
** Skarl to Skelly
** Snakebone Master Jyakotu to Lord Viper (just "Viper" in the profile screens)
** Sprigun to Sprigg
** [=StarChild=] to Starky
** Vancliff/Bancliff to Van
** Yamaneco to Lynx
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1st Sep '17 5:59:50 PM Aipom-pom
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** Fio to NeoFio



** Tsukoyomi to Harle

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** Tsukoyomi Tsukuyomi to Harle



** Mell to Mel



** Vancliff to Van

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** Vancliff Vancliff/Bancliff to Van
31st Jul '17 5:44:16 AM Aipom-pom
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** A subplot of the game is a GreenAesop, with various demihumans complaining about humanity's disrespect for the environment. The problem is that humans seem to live quite in harmony in nature -- the islands are generally lush and verdant, and there aren't any sort of environmental problems outside the few isolated times the game decides to bring up the subject. It doesn't help that the main group pushing this message, the dwaves, decide to [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope Jump Off the Slippery Slope]] and [[spoiler:use smog-belching tanks to ''commit genocide'']] while obtaining themselves a new home after their original becomes uninhabitable.

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** A subplot of the game is a GreenAesop, with various demihumans complaining about humanity's disrespect for the environment. The problem is that humans seem to live quite in harmony in nature -- the islands are generally lush and verdant, and there aren't any sort of environmental problems outside the few isolated times the game decides to bring up the subject. It doesn't help that the main group pushing this message, the dwaves, dwarves, decide to [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope Jump Off the Slippery Slope]] and [[spoiler:use smog-belching tanks to ''commit genocide'']] while obtaining themselves a new home after their original becomes uninhabitable.



* NominalImportance: As mentioned on the trope page, character portraits: with a note to the strange case of the Element shop owner in Termina who has a portrait and name but no real significance. In addition, Leena's portraited brother Una isn't important to the plot. On the flip side, [[GoldfishPoopGang Solt and Peppor]], who ''are'' reasonably significant (certainly moreso than Lisa or Una), inexplicably lack portraits.

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* NominalImportance: As mentioned on the trope page, character portraits: with a note to the strange case of the Element shop owner in Termina who has a portrait and name but no real significance. In addition, Leena's portraited brother Una has a face portrait but isn't important to the plot. On the flip side, [[GoldfishPoopGang Solt and Peppor]], who ''are'' reasonably significant (certainly moreso than Lisa or Una), inexplicably lack portraits.



* ScratchDamage: The game lets you hear the odd strike sound when a weak enemy hits your Rainbow Armoured characters for that wonderful 0 damage. It still counts as a hit for disrupting your attacks and so on, but no damage is inflicted.

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* ScratchDamage: The game lets you hear the odd strike sound when a weak enemy hits your Rainbow Armoured Armored characters for that wonderful 0 damage. It still counts as a hit for disrupting your attacks and so on, but no damage is inflicted.



* SoLongAndThanksForAllTheGear: This is averted 99% of the time since all characters will always reliquish accessories back to you if they drop out from the group. However, only one of them takes the weapon and armor away forever (till you get a New Game +, that is): [[spoiler:Harle, right after the Acacian Dragoons join the team.]]

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* SoLongAndThanksForAllTheGear: This is averted 99% of the time since all characters will always reliquish relinquish accessories back to you if they drop out from the group. However, only one of them takes the weapon and armor away forever (till you get a New Game +, that is): [[spoiler:Harle, right after the Acacian Dragoons join the team.]]



* WhatDidYouExpectWhenYouNamedIt: As if it wasn't bad enough to choose to base her design and programming off of the maniacal, human-destroying Mother Brain from the BadFuture, for some reason Balthasar and Lucca chose to name the supercomputer in charge of protecting the future and preventing the Day of Lavos from ever happening...FATE. Once thrown into the past by the Time Crash, she initially continues to follow her programming, ensuring the people of El Nido (descendants of Chronopolis' workers) did not interfere with the Zenan mainland and thus change the future...but then through the Records she sets herself up as a goddess, manipulates and experiments upon the people so as to understand life (and eventually become a new sentient lifeform), and once cut off from the Frozen Flame decides as a goddess [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans she is justified in doing anything to regain its power and carry out her mission]].

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* WhatDidYouExpectWhenYouNamedIt: As if it wasn't bad enough to choose to base her design and programming off of the maniacal, human-destroying Mother Brain from the BadFuture, for some reason Balthasar Belthasar and Lucca chose to name the supercomputer in charge of protecting the future and preventing the Day of Lavos from ever happening...FATE. Once thrown into the past by the Time Crash, she initially continues to follow her programming, ensuring the people of El Nido (descendants of Chronopolis' workers) did not interfere with the Zenan mainland and thus change the future...but then through the Records she sets herself up as a goddess, manipulates and experiments upon the people so as to understand life (and eventually become a new sentient lifeform), and once cut off from the Frozen Flame decides as a goddess [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans she is justified in doing anything to regain its power and carry out her mission]].
18th Jun '17 10:53:25 PM Aipom-pom
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* YinYangBomb: This is a feature of an optional character, Pip/Tumalu. You can evolve him as light/light, dark/dark, or light/dark (or dark/light, works the same way). The third is often considered the best standalone. [[spoiler:Also, to get the GoodEnding, you have to pull this trope off with all three Element colour conflicts (white/black, red/blue, yellow/green; these represent light and space/gravity and hell, fire and lava/water and ice, and earth and lightning/nature and wind.]]

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* YinYangBomb: This is a feature of an optional character, Pip/Tumalu. You can evolve him as light/light, dark/dark, or light/dark (or dark/light, works the same way). The third is often considered the best standalone. [[spoiler:Also, to get the GoodEnding, you have to pull this trope off with all three Element colour color conflicts (white/black, red/blue, yellow/green; these represent light and space/gravity and hell, fire and lava/water and ice, and earth and lightning/nature and wind.]]
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