History VideoGame / ChronoCross

1st Sep '17 5:59:50 PM Aipom-pom
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** Fio to NeoFio



** Tsukoyomi to Harle

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** Tsukoyomi Tsukuyomi to Harle



** Mell to Mel



** Vancliff to Van

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** Vancliff Vancliff/Bancliff to Van
31st Jul '17 5:44:16 AM Aipom-pom
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** A subplot of the game is a GreenAesop, with various demihumans complaining about humanity's disrespect for the environment. The problem is that humans seem to live quite in harmony in nature -- the islands are generally lush and verdant, and there aren't any sort of environmental problems outside the few isolated times the game decides to bring up the subject. It doesn't help that the main group pushing this message, the dwaves, decide to [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope Jump Off the Slippery Slope]] and [[spoiler:use smog-belching tanks to ''commit genocide'']] while obtaining themselves a new home after their original becomes uninhabitable.

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** A subplot of the game is a GreenAesop, with various demihumans complaining about humanity's disrespect for the environment. The problem is that humans seem to live quite in harmony in nature -- the islands are generally lush and verdant, and there aren't any sort of environmental problems outside the few isolated times the game decides to bring up the subject. It doesn't help that the main group pushing this message, the dwaves, dwarves, decide to [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope Jump Off the Slippery Slope]] and [[spoiler:use smog-belching tanks to ''commit genocide'']] while obtaining themselves a new home after their original becomes uninhabitable.



* NominalImportance: As mentioned on the trope page, character portraits: with a note to the strange case of the Element shop owner in Termina who has a portrait and name but no real significance. In addition, Leena's portraited brother Una isn't important to the plot. On the flip side, [[GoldfishPoopGang Solt and Peppor]], who ''are'' reasonably significant (certainly moreso than Lisa or Una), inexplicably lack portraits.

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* NominalImportance: As mentioned on the trope page, character portraits: with a note to the strange case of the Element shop owner in Termina who has a portrait and name but no real significance. In addition, Leena's portraited brother Una has a face portrait but isn't important to the plot. On the flip side, [[GoldfishPoopGang Solt and Peppor]], who ''are'' reasonably significant (certainly moreso than Lisa or Una), inexplicably lack portraits.



* ScratchDamage: The game lets you hear the odd strike sound when a weak enemy hits your Rainbow Armoured characters for that wonderful 0 damage. It still counts as a hit for disrupting your attacks and so on, but no damage is inflicted.

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* ScratchDamage: The game lets you hear the odd strike sound when a weak enemy hits your Rainbow Armoured Armored characters for that wonderful 0 damage. It still counts as a hit for disrupting your attacks and so on, but no damage is inflicted.



* SoLongAndThanksForAllTheGear: This is averted 99% of the time since all characters will always reliquish accessories back to you if they drop out from the group. However, only one of them takes the weapon and armor away forever (till you get a New Game +, that is): [[spoiler:Harle, right after the Acacian Dragoons join the team.]]

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* SoLongAndThanksForAllTheGear: This is averted 99% of the time since all characters will always reliquish relinquish accessories back to you if they drop out from the group. However, only one of them takes the weapon and armor away forever (till you get a New Game +, that is): [[spoiler:Harle, right after the Acacian Dragoons join the team.]]



* WhatDidYouExpectWhenYouNamedIt: As if it wasn't bad enough to choose to base her design and programming off of the maniacal, human-destroying Mother Brain from the BadFuture, for some reason Balthasar and Lucca chose to name the supercomputer in charge of protecting the future and preventing the Day of Lavos from ever happening...FATE. Once thrown into the past by the Time Crash, she initially continues to follow her programming, ensuring the people of El Nido (descendants of Chronopolis' workers) did not interfere with the Zenan mainland and thus change the future...but then through the Records she sets herself up as a goddess, manipulates and experiments upon the people so as to understand life (and eventually become a new sentient lifeform), and once cut off from the Frozen Flame decides as a goddess [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans she is justified in doing anything to regain its power and carry out her mission]].

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* WhatDidYouExpectWhenYouNamedIt: As if it wasn't bad enough to choose to base her design and programming off of the maniacal, human-destroying Mother Brain from the BadFuture, for some reason Balthasar Belthasar and Lucca chose to name the supercomputer in charge of protecting the future and preventing the Day of Lavos from ever happening...FATE. Once thrown into the past by the Time Crash, she initially continues to follow her programming, ensuring the people of El Nido (descendants of Chronopolis' workers) did not interfere with the Zenan mainland and thus change the future...but then through the Records she sets herself up as a goddess, manipulates and experiments upon the people so as to understand life (and eventually become a new sentient lifeform), and once cut off from the Frozen Flame decides as a goddess [[UtopiaJustifiesTheMeans she is justified in doing anything to regain its power and carry out her mission]].
18th Jun '17 10:53:25 PM Aipom-pom
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* YinYangBomb: This is a feature of an optional character, Pip/Tumalu. You can evolve him as light/light, dark/dark, or light/dark (or dark/light, works the same way). The third is often considered the best standalone. [[spoiler:Also, to get the GoodEnding, you have to pull this trope off with all three Element colour conflicts (white/black, red/blue, yellow/green; these represent light and space/gravity and hell, fire and lava/water and ice, and earth and lightning/nature and wind.]]

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* YinYangBomb: This is a feature of an optional character, Pip/Tumalu. You can evolve him as light/light, dark/dark, or light/dark (or dark/light, works the same way). The third is often considered the best standalone. [[spoiler:Also, to get the GoodEnding, you have to pull this trope off with all three Element colour color conflicts (white/black, red/blue, yellow/green; these represent light and space/gravity and hell, fire and lava/water and ice, and earth and lightning/nature and wind.]]
15th Jun '17 11:51:57 PM Aipom-pom
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* AirplaneArms: Marle.

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* AirplaneArms: Marle.Harle.



* BadMoonRising: The theme of Harle's techs. Belthazar later exposes her as the [[spoiler:Dark Moon Dragon]].

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* BadMoonRising: The theme of Harle's techs. Belthazar Belthasar later exposes her as the [[spoiler:Dark Moon Dragon]].



* DesignatedLoveInterest: Serge and Kid can end up this way, depending on the player's choices. Much related media from official art to [[spoiler: a photo in the Golden Ending's cutscene implying their marrage]] points to Kid being the female lead of the game and Serge's love interst. However, it's entirely possible to go through the entire game ''without even recruiting her''. Even if you do, her relationship with Serge can easily be interpreted as platonic TrueCompanions rather than anything romantic, which leads some players to think this way.

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* DesignatedLoveInterest: Serge and Kid can end up this way, depending on the player's choices. Much related media from official art to [[spoiler: a photo in the Golden Ending's cutscene implying their marrage]] marriage]] points to Kid being the female lead of the game and Serge's love interst. However, it's entirely possible to go through the entire game ''without even recruiting her''. Even if you do, her relationship with Serge can easily be interpreted as platonic TrueCompanions rather than anything romantic, which leads some players to think this way.
15th Jun '17 3:01:39 PM Aipom-pom
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** [=DragChild=] to Draggy

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** [=DragChild=] [=Dragon Puppy=] to Draggy



** Tsukoyomi (Harlequin) to Harle

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** Tsukoyomi (Harlequin) to Harle



** Ocha to Orcha



** Spriggan to Sprigg

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** Spriggan Sprigun to Sprigg



** Van Cliff to Van
** Yamaneko to Lynx

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** Van Cliff Vancliff to Van
** Yamaneko Yamaneco to Lynx



* EnigmaticMinion: Harle, for [[MindScrew confusing]] and spoilery reasons. WordOfGod even says [[spoiler:that there's actually something of a connection between her and Kid, which players noted when comparing the similar build, reactions to Serge and almost identical facial features.]] Her eventual fate is [[spoiler:pretty vague, actually.]]

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* EnigmaticMinion: Harle, for [[MindScrew confusing]] and spoilery reasons. WordOfGod even says [[spoiler:that there's actually something of a connection between her and Kid, which players noted when comparing the similar build, reactions to Serge and almost identical facial features.]] Her eventual fate is [[spoiler:pretty vague, actually.]]






* GreyAndGreyMorality: No one in ''Chrono Cross'' can be truly called evil, apart from, perhaps, the Masamune itself. And even then, the sword has been corrupted by years of abuse.

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* GreyAndGreyMorality: No Almost no one in ''Chrono Cross'' can be truly called evil, apart from, perhaps, the Masamune itself. And even then, the sword has been corrupted by years of abuse.
14th Jun '17 2:28:40 AM Aipom-pom
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* RecurringRiff: The thematic ''VideoGame/ChronoTrigger'' theme is reused several times, as well as Lucca's victory fanfare theme. In addition, CC's theme for bustling Termina is reminiscent of Guardia's Millenial Fair in CT, and [[spoiler:the first ending theme contains parts of "Schala's Theme", which makes perfect sense.]] In addition, since CC started life as the game ''VisualNovel/RadicalDreamers'', many themes from the original Satelliview game are remixed for CC, including the main theme, the battle theme, "Frozen Flame", and "Star-Stealing Girl".

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* RecurringRiff: The thematic ''VideoGame/ChronoTrigger'' theme is reused several times, as well as Lucca's victory fanfare theme. In addition, CC's theme for bustling Termina is reminiscent of Guardia's Millenial Millennial Fair in CT, and [[spoiler:the first ending theme contains parts of "Schala's Theme", which makes perfect sense.]] In addition, since CC started life as the game ''VisualNovel/RadicalDreamers'', many themes from the original Satelliview game are remixed for CC, including the main theme, the battle theme, "Frozen Flame", and "Star-Stealing Girl".



** Guile is a complicated case. Based on Magil from ''VisualNovel/RadicalDreamers'', who turns out to be [[spoiler:Magus from ''Chrono Trigger'' keeping an eye on his sister]], that part of Guile's backstory was dropped during development but the Expy-ness remained. Then the DS remake of Chrono Trigger implies that Guile is [[spoiler:an amnesiatic, alternate dimension Magus]]. WordOfGod states that Guile is [[spoiler:neither Magil nor Magus]], bringing us full circle.

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** Guile is a complicated case. Based on Magil from ''VisualNovel/RadicalDreamers'', who turns out to be [[spoiler:Magus from ''Chrono Trigger'' keeping an eye on his sister]], that part of Guile's backstory was dropped during development but the Expy-ness remained. Then the DS remake of Chrono Trigger implies suggests that Guile is [[spoiler:an amnesiatic, alternate dimension Magus]]. WordOfGod states that Guile is [[spoiler:neither Magil nor Magus]], bringing us full circle.


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7th Jun '17 3:38:14 PM EdwardGil
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*** In NewGamePlus you can also use it inbetween dimensions to summon previous party members from other timelines.
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** The Radius is unbeatable during the tutorial battle in the beginning of the game. Even in NewGamePlus, where Serge may well be powerful enough to destroy the FinalBoss singlehandedly, you can't take Radius down. If you survive for a few turns after he starts trying to knock you out, though, he'll compliment you and simply end the battle.

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** The Radius is unbeatable during the tutorial battle in the beginning of the game. Even in NewGamePlus, where Serge may well be powerful enough to destroy the FinalBoss singlehandedly, you can't take Radius down. If you survive for a few turns after he starts trying to knock you out, though, he'll compliment you and simply end the battle.
9th May '17 3:42:06 PM Kahran042
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* PoorPredictableRock: Appears when you [[FridgeLogic think too hard about it]]. All of the guards in Viper Manor except two of the top three are Yellow-innate. This is because they're (almost) all members of a small pool of "monsters" and "monsters" of the same type always have the same innate. However, they're all ''human'', and humans throughout the game have all sorts of different innates, so it really makes you question Viper's hiring policy. Even certain plot characters among his guard force (Solt, Peppor, Ketchop, and Zoah) are Yellow-innate for some reason. Viper himself is Yellow-innate! It's just begging for a task force trying to break in (say, Serge and Kid) to load up on Green elements and storm on in. Only Karsh and Marcy seem to get away from this trope at all.

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* PoorPredictableRock: Appears when you [[FridgeLogic think too hard about it]]. All of the guards in Viper Manor except two of the top three are Yellow-innate. This is because they're (almost) all members of a small pool of "monsters" and "monsters" of the same type always have the same innate. However, they're all ''human'', and humans throughout the game have all sorts of different innates, so it really makes you question Viper's hiring policy. Even certain plot characters among his guard force (Solt, Peppor, Ketchop, and Zoah) are Yellow-innate for some reason. Viper himself is Yellow-innate! It's just begging for a task force trying to break in (say, Serge and Kid) to load up on Green elements and storm on in. Only Karsh Karsh, Marcy, and Marcy Glenn seem to get away from this trope at all.
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