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10th Dec '16 5:12:58 PM Kid
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* An underwear sales presentation for the shopping channel Creator/{{QVC}} showing two very attractive women wearing hideously unflattering undergarments went viral on YouTube. When the British sales pitch reached QVC viewers in the USA,[[note]]Apparently it could be accessed through the QVC website[[/note]] it provoked lots of complaints. The reason is apparently that both models had very visible erect nipples under their vests. This highlighted the gulf between British and North American social attitudes to visibly erect female [[NippleAndDimed nipples]] under clothing; it's no big deal in GB but is apparently almost as bad as toplessness in the USA. [[note]]American style guides for women's clothing do not like this ''at all'' and consider it socially unacceptable.[[/note]] Strangest of all, [[http://www.insideedition.com/headlines/12976-curvaceous-qvc-lingerie-models-gain-online-admirers-real-women-real-curves American websites covering the item]] ran edited excerpts from the show but still considered it necessary to run a CensorBox over the chest of a woman who was otherwise fully covered! (Link is presumably NSFW in the USA but OK everywhere else....)


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* An underwear sales presentation for the shopping channel Creator/{{QVC}} QVC showing two very attractive women wearing hideously unflattering undergarments went viral on YouTube. When the British sales pitch reached QVC viewers in the USA,[[note]]Apparently it could be accessed through the QVC website[[/note]] it provoked lots of complaints. The reason is apparently that both models had very visible erect nipples under their vests. This highlighted the gulf between British and North American social attitudes to visibly erect female [[NippleAndDimed nipples]] under clothing; it's no big deal in GB but is apparently almost as bad as toplessness in the USA. [[note]]American style guides for women's clothing do not like this ''at all'' and consider it socially unacceptable.[[/note]] Strangest of all, [[http://www.insideedition.com/headlines/12976-curvaceous-qvc-lingerie-models-gain-online-admirers-real-women-real-curves American websites covering the item]] ran edited excerpts from the show but still considered it necessary to run a CensorBox over the chest of a woman who was otherwise fully covered! (Link is presumably NSFW in the USA but OK everywhere else....)

10th Dec '16 5:12:26 PM Kid
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* An underwear sales presentation for the shopping channel Creator/{{QVC}} showing two very attractive women wearing hideously unflattering undergarments went viral on YouTube. When the British sales pitch reached QVC viewers in the USA,[[note]]Apparently it could be accessed through the QVC website[[/note]] it provoked lots of complaints. The reason is apparently that both models had very visible erect nipples under their vests. This highlighted the gulf between British and North American social attitudes to visibly erect female [[NippleAndDimed nipples]] under clothing; it's no big deal in GB but is apparently almost as bad as toplessness in the USA. [[note]]American style guides for women's clothing do not like this ''at all'' and consider it socially unacceptable.[[/note]]. Strangest of all, [[http://www.insideedition.com/headlines/12976-curvaceous-qvc-lingerie-models-gain-online-admirers-real-women-real-curves American websites covering the item]] ran edited excerpts from the show but still considered it necessary to run a CensorBox over the chest of a woman who was otherwise fully covered! ( Link is presumably NSFW in the USA but OK everywhere else)....


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* An underwear sales presentation for the shopping channel Creator/{{QVC}} showing two very attractive women wearing hideously unflattering undergarments went viral on YouTube. When the British sales pitch reached QVC viewers in the USA,[[note]]Apparently it could be accessed through the QVC website[[/note]] it provoked lots of complaints. The reason is apparently that both models had very visible erect nipples under their vests. This highlighted the gulf between British and North American social attitudes to visibly erect female [[NippleAndDimed nipples]] under clothing; it's no big deal in GB but is apparently almost as bad as toplessness in the USA. [[note]]American style guides for women's clothing do not like this ''at all'' and consider it socially unacceptable.[[/note]]. [[/note]] Strangest of all, [[http://www.insideedition.com/headlines/12976-curvaceous-qvc-lingerie-models-gain-online-admirers-real-women-real-curves American websites covering the item]] ran edited excerpts from the show but still considered it necessary to run a CensorBox over the chest of a woman who was otherwise fully covered! ( Link (Link is presumably NSFW in the USA but OK everywhere else)....

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3rd Dec '16 1:05:40 AM Mhazard
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* TraumaticCSection was a common practice between Israelites and their enemies, nowadays, it would be considered as a war crime.
13th Nov '16 6:27:38 PM Nicoaln
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** [[DidNotDoTheBloodyResearch Regional swears]] and a more straight-up variation of this for foreign-made works. Some cultures might have a more liberal view of something that other cultures take more offence at. In one culture, GettingCrapPastTheRadar is just business as normal to another.

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** [[DidNotDoTheBloodyResearch Regional swears]] slang]] and a more straight-up variation of this for foreign-made works. Some cultures might have a more liberal view of something that other cultures take more offence at. In one culture, GettingCrapPastTheRadar is just business as normal to another.
13th Nov '16 6:25:38 PM Nicoaln
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* GettingCrapPastTheRadar has had some of this happen in multiple ways:
** [[SocietyMarchesOn Different Timeframes]]: Words, phrases, and innuendos that were considered rude or worse have been placed on the page, but a younger reader might be confused because of how casually some of them have been used. (A good example: "Suck(s)" or "Crap". Up until the late 90s - early 00s, it was considered quite rude for a character to say that something or something "Sucks" or that something is "Crappy". They are still considered rude, but not nearly as rude as they were in the past.) See also GetTheeToANunnery.
** [[DidNotDoTheBloodyResearch Regional swears]] and a more straight-up variation of this for foreign-made works. Some cultures might have a more liberal view of something that other cultures take more offence at. In one culture, GettingCrapPastTheRadar is just business as normal to another.
6th Nov '16 6:26:38 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''AmericanCountryCountdown'': The Don Bowman-hosted programs from about the first six months or so of the show's run (1973-late spring 1974) saw him making jokes that absolutely would not be allowed today. An example: "How do you make a horse stop complaining in the winter? Shoot him in the summertime!" He also lashed out at a listener who wrote in complimenting him on the show in general but that he needed to cool the jokes, implying that he used crayons to write the letter (and was thus crazy).

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* ''AmericanCountryCountdown'': ''Radio/AmericanCountryCountdown'': The Don Bowman-hosted programs from about the first six months or so of the show's run (1973-late spring 1974) saw him making jokes that absolutely would not be allowed today. An example: "How do you make a horse stop complaining in the winter? Shoot him in the summertime!" He also lashed out at a listener who wrote in complimenting him on the show in general but that he needed to cool the jokes, implying that he used crayons to write the letter (and was thus crazy).
1st Nov '16 6:02:28 PM nombretomado
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* TheSeventies comedy star [[TheGoodies Bill Oddie]] ran into trouble in the 1990's by failing to grasp the nature of comedy had changed, and some of the personas that had made him famous in TheSixties were no longer politically correct. ''Rastus Watermelon'' was a sound-only character Bill invented in voice only for the {{Radio}} precursor, ''Radio/ImSorryIllReadThatAgain'', a stereotyped black man he later reprised in blackface, as part of TheGoodies. [[note]]In common with other ISIRTA voices recycled for the show, his appearance drew a huge cheer from the studio audience. This sort of reaction is ''hard'' for a comedian to let go of.[[/note]] Bill Oddie seemed unable to grasp this character had become politically uncorrect with the years and became visibly angry when gently told by Creator/StephenFry he could not use this, and other familiar radio voices, during a 1990's comedy benefit show Fry was producing. Bill had also written a comedy song, which relied on long-outdated comedy about gay stereotypes. As it was for an AIDS charity benefit, Fry said this was out too. While Oddie later apologised, the spat was embarrassing and unedifying to those who witnessed it, and may have contributed to Bill retiring from active comedy performance to concentrate on his natural history shows.

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* TheSeventies comedy star [[TheGoodies [[Series/TheGoodies Bill Oddie]] ran into trouble in the 1990's by failing to grasp the nature of comedy had changed, and some of the personas that had made him famous in TheSixties were no longer politically correct. ''Rastus Watermelon'' was a sound-only character Bill invented in voice only for the {{Radio}} precursor, ''Radio/ImSorryIllReadThatAgain'', a stereotyped black man he later reprised in blackface, as part of TheGoodies.Series/TheGoodies. [[note]]In common with other ISIRTA voices recycled for the show, his appearance drew a huge cheer from the studio audience. This sort of reaction is ''hard'' for a comedian to let go of.[[/note]] Bill Oddie seemed unable to grasp this character had become politically uncorrect with the years and became visibly angry when gently told by Creator/StephenFry he could not use this, and other familiar radio voices, during a 1990's comedy benefit show Fry was producing. Bill had also written a comedy song, which relied on long-outdated comedy about gay stereotypes. As it was for an AIDS charity benefit, Fry said this was out too. While Oddie later apologised, the spat was embarrassing and unedifying to those who witnessed it, and may have contributed to Bill retiring from active comedy performance to concentrate on his natural history shows.
30th Oct '16 7:53:49 AM Screwhorn77
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** Russian language and folklore actually has traces of perceiving redheads as weird and unconventional people. It was not uncommon for someone to say "Am I a redhead?", meaning "Am I any different from other people?". A well-known nursery rhyme in Russia goes something like "redhead - a dangerous person".
24th Oct '16 12:36:27 PM SmoCro
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* The word "race" is commonly used to refer to black, white and so on in English. It is also used as a shorthand for discussions about subjects having to do with that issue. (E.g. "the President has failed to address race"). A dictionary might tell you the German translation of that word is "Rasse", but if you use that word the same way as Americans you are in for a world of hurt. Many Germans will remind you that "Rasse" is a useless construct that does not actually exist. It's safe to say the national debates are ''very'' different, though the casual racism is NotSoDifferent at the same time that it manifests in different ways and against different groups.

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* The word "race" is commonly used to refer to black, white and so on in English. It is also used as a shorthand for discussions about subjects having to do with that issue. (E.g. "the President has failed to address race"). A dictionary might tell you the German translation of that word is "Rasse", but if you use that word the same way as Americans you are in for a world of hurt. Many Germans will remind you that "Rasse" is a useless construct that does not actually exist. It's safe to say the national debates are ''very'' different, though the casual racism is NotSoDifferent at the same time that it manifests in different ways and against different groups.groups[[note]] It helps though that Europeans did not evolve a concept of 'whiteness' the same way Americans did. For most Europeans the people next door where always much more important to distance from and most of those were more or less white[[/note]].
** For an example in Germany 'Neger' which would translate to 'Negro' is an outdated term, but does not bring nearly the heat as its American counterpart.


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** Germany does have, if any, only a very light bias against redhead, possibly because quite a few people with blonde hair are either red-blond or grow reddish beards.
23rd Oct '16 10:25:01 AM ZeroL
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* Google often has interesting little statements under the search bar. One of these was "Quick! Name the last time you played hooky. If you canít remember, youíre probably overdue."
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