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2nd Mar '17 9:44:58 PM Nicoaln
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** Also in Rome, Bellona. She is considered to be a mostly Roman deity despite having a Greek Counterpart (Enyo). Of course, she was a war deity.
2nd Mar '17 9:38:33 PM Nicoaln
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* ComicStrip/FoxTrot: Up until the mid-90s, Paige would regularly [[BigBrotherBully beat up Jason]] after being on the receiving end of his pranks. With school bullying a huge problem these days, such strips would have a hard time getting published.

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* ComicStrip/FoxTrot: Up until the mid-90s, Paige would regularly [[BigBrotherBully beat up Jason]] after being on the receiving end of his pranks. With school bullying a huge problem these days, such strips would have a hard time getting published. Then again, [[DoubleStandard it is female on male violence]], which is [[DoubleStandardAbuseFemaleOnMale a frequent running gag]].




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* ''ComicStrip/{{Peanuts}}'' veers in and out of this at times, but one notable example is one gag which features Linus mistaking snowfall for nuclear fallout. A kind of gag that wouldn't be out of place in the 50s and 60s (albeit pretty dark for the time) but these days, wouldn't really be seen as funny.
** Bullying in Peanuts is an interesting case. In some ways, it would be seen as kind of mean to a modern viewer. But at the same time, the strip never condones it and often features some more severe cases (such as Lucy flat out ''destroying'' Schroeder's piano) being treated as TroublingUnchildlikeBehavior.
13th Feb '17 8:00:36 AM RAraya
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* Guns are commonplace in America, being a stereotypical feature for foreigners. In most of Europe, not even ''the police'' is allowed to carry guns when on the beat. Actually, some do not even have (primarily the Nordic countries)
31st Jan '17 8:51:24 PM RAraya
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* A geographical Sliding Scale of Conservatism vs. Liberalism (in general terms) would have The Middle East and The Far East as very conservative, The U.S. and South Africa as mostly conservative, The Commonwealth and Latin America as mostly liberal and Europe with the Nordic countries as very liberal.

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* A geographical Sliding Scale of Conservatism vs. Liberalism (in general terms) would have The Middle East and The Far East as very conservative, The U.S. and South Africa as mostly conservative, The Commonwealth and Latin America as mostly liberal and Europe with the Nordic countries as very liberal.liberal. Note that this tends to vary (often wildly) between regions/countries.



** Actually, in the US and UK, a politician who declares himself a "socialist" is as good as dead (at least until the 2010s). In other countries, socialist and ''communist'' parties are very influential.



* Money and private property is seen differently by most religions: Judaism is known for advocating frugality (to the point of becoming a stereotypical trait). Presbyterianism and (to a lesser extent) Anglicanism heavily endorse capitalism and private enterprise, something seen as quite obscene by other Christian creeds (most notoriously Catholicism), which instead advocate for sharing one's riches, something also advocated by Muslims. Eastern religions go one step further, considering that private possessions are incompatible with an spiritual life.

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* Money and private property is seen differently by most religions: Judaism is known for advocating frugality (to the point of becoming a stereotypical trait). Presbyterianism and (to a lesser extent) Anglicanism heavily endorse capitalism and private enterprise, something seen as quite obscene by other Christian creeds (most notoriously Catholicism), which instead advocate for sharing one's riches, something also advocated by Muslims. Eastern religions (and the Amish) go one step further, considering that private possessions are incompatible with an spiritual life.life.
* Young adults still living with their parents beyond college:
** Generational divide: In the baby boomer/early-X era, being a BasementDweller was synonymous with being an immature freeloader. With worsening economic conditions in the late 2000s, late-X'ers and millennials became pretty much forced to stay with the folks... indefinitely (in case of not having enough to live with their friends/acquaintances), to the point of having to settle down with mom and pop (decades ago, it would be the ''other'' way around).
** Regional divide: If living with the parents was not an option in Western countries, this was the norm in poorer nations.
31st Jan '17 5:06:48 PM BigKlingy
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* In English-speaking countries, the word "liberal" refers to someone in the center-left of the political spectrum, often translating into "socialist". In Continental Europe however, "liberal" is someone in the center-right, if not outright right-wing.

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* In English-speaking countries, the word "liberal" refers to someone in the center-left of the political spectrum, often translating into "socialist". In Continental Europe and Australia however, "liberal" is someone in the center-right, if not outright right-wing.
26th Jan '17 8:26:10 PM RAraya
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* [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LvLn9PWln8 These fruit drink adverts]] were made and broadcast in the UK in the 1980s. Especially weird because "Kia ora" is Maori for hello, and has nothing to do with the American South. And especially weird as most 1980s British people wouldn't even recognize the stereotypes (the pickaninny, zoot suits, crows = black people, basketball as stereotypically 'black', "dog" as a term of affection, the "mammy" are all American ideas).

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* [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LvLn9PWln8 These Kia-Ora fruit drink adverts]] were made and broadcast in the UK in the 1980s. Especially weird because "Kia ora" is Maori for hello, and has nothing to do with the American South. And especially weird as most 1980s British people wouldn't even recognize the stereotypes (the pickaninny, zoot suits, crows = black people, basketball as stereotypically 'black', "dog" as a term of affection, the "mammy" are all American ideas).






* In the West, mahjong is generally seen as a harmless little old-ladies game (or the tile matching game). In Japan and other East Asian cultures, it is a hardcore gambling game that Asian parents would rather ''not'' teach their children, in the same way that poker is a gambling game most American parents wouldn't want to teach their children. Many jansou (mahjong parlors) have had ties to the yakuza (mafia) in Japan.

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* In the West, mahjong is generally seen as a harmless little old-ladies game (or the tile matching game). In Japan and other East Asian cultures, it is a hardcore gambling game that Asian parents would rather ''not'' teach their children, in the same way that poker is a gambling game most American parents wouldn't want to teach their children. Many jansou (mahjong parlors) have had (or still have) ties to the yakuza (mafia) in Japan.
Yakuza and other mafias.



* The word "race" is commonly used to refer to black, white and so on in English. It is also used as a shorthand for discussions about subjects having to do with that issue. (E.g. "the President has failed to address race"). A dictionary might tell you the German translation of that word is "Rasse", but if you use that word the same way as Americans you are in for a world of hurt. Many Germans will remind you that "Rasse" is a useless construct that does not actually exist. It's safe to say the national debates are ''very'' different, though the casual racism is NotSoDifferent at the same time that it manifests in different ways and against different groups[[note]] It helps though that Europeans did not evolve a concept of 'whiteness' the same way Americans did. For most Europeans the people next door where always much more important to distance from and most of those were more or less white[[/note]].

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* The word "race" is commonly used to refer to black, white and so on in English. It is also used as a shorthand for discussions about subjects having to do with that issue. (E.g. "the President has failed to address race"). A dictionary might tell you the German translation of that word is "Rasse", but if you use that word the same way as Americans you are in for a world of hurt. Many Germans will remind you that "Rasse" is a useless construct that does not actually exist. It's safe to say the national debates are ''very'' different, though the casual racism is NotSoDifferent at the same time that it manifests in different ways and against different groups[[note]] It groups[[note]]It helps though that Europeans did not evolve a concept of 'whiteness' the same way Americans did. For most Europeans the people next door where always much more important to distance from and most of those were more or less white[[/note]].



* Back in the early 20th century, children in Sweden were taught to admire warrior kings like Gustav II Adolf (1594-1632) and Carl XII (1682-1719). They were seen as heroes, who had once made Sweden a great country and who died glorious deaths in the war. But during the last fifty years, when there has been less and less tolerance for militarism, imperialism and nationalism, the huge popularity of these warrior kings has also plummeted. Books are still written about Gustav II Adolf and Carl XII, of course. But a modern writer will most likely bring attention to how they committed what we today would see as war crimes, and how the common people had to suffer[[note]]The men had to go to war, where plenty of them would either die or become crippled, and women and children had to starve at home, when they could not keep the agriculture going without the men's help.[[/note]] because the king had illusions of grandeur.
* Depending on the region - specifically the temperature - wearing less clothing in public. If it's a very hot climate then walking around in less clothes would be considered acceptable because of the heat. In the UK however, where the climate is colder, walking around in shorts, tube tobs, tank tops etc. would be looked down on - unless it was a particularly hot day. Lest you think this only affects women, shirt buttons in a business setting comes up too. In a warmer region, having two or more buttons undone would be fine. In a colder one, less so, because it evokes the IntimateOpenShirt. Similarly, even businesspeople or the president are unlikely to ever where a suit in places like UsefulNotes/{{Nicaragua}}, while even fairly low-level office grunts in places like UsefulNotes/{{Germany}} are more or less forced to wear a suit on every work day.

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* PatrioticFervor tends to be seen differently across cultures, English-speaking countries being prouder regarding their national culture than European nations: The most extreme examples are the U.S., whose nationalism is often seen as over-the-top by foreigners, with Germany being the polar opposite, thoroughly avoiding to invoke national pride for almost a century for evident reasons.
* Back in the early 20th century, children in Sweden were taught to admire warrior kings like Gustav II Adolf (1594-1632) and Carl XII (1682-1719). They were seen as heroes, who had once made Sweden a great country and who died glorious deaths country, dying gloriously for their land in the war. wars. But during the last fifty years, when there has been less and less tolerance for militarism, imperialism and nationalism, the huge popularity of these warrior kings has also plummeted.plummeted since the 1960s as tolerance for militarism, imperialism and nationalism has decreased. Books are still written about Gustav II Adolf and Carl XII, of course. But a modern writer will most likely bring attention to how they committed what we today would see as war crimes, and how the common people had to suffer[[note]]The men had to go to war, where plenty of them would either die or become crippled, and women and children had to starve at home, when they could not keep the agriculture going without the men's help.[[/note]] because the king kings had illusions of grandeur.
* Depending on the region - specifically the temperature - wearing less clothing in public. If it's a very hot climate then walking around in less clothes would be considered acceptable because of the heat. In the UK however, where the climate is colder, walking around in shorts, tube tobs, tops, tank tops etc. would be looked down on - unless it was a particularly hot day. Lest you think this only affects women, shirt buttons in a business setting comes up too. In a warmer region, having two or more buttons undone would be fine. In a colder one, less so, because it evokes the IntimateOpenShirt. Similarly, even businesspeople or the president are unlikely to ever where wear a suit in places like UsefulNotes/{{Nicaragua}}, while even fairly low-level office grunts in places like UsefulNotes/{{Germany}} are more or less forced to wear a suit on every work day.most of the year.



** Different regions: The US are the only country in the Western world to forbid the usage of curse words and exposed breasts in mass media. Commonwealth countries are more lax about this, with expletives allowed after a certain hour and topless women [[PageThreeStunna being a staple of]] BritishNewspapers for decades. But this is nothing compared to the other countries, where the media is technically free to do anything if they wanted to (the censorship coming afterwards).
** Similarly, the US and some Commonwealth nations (particularly Australia and New Zealand) consider violence more acceptable than sex. The rest of the Western world would say otherwise (The UK used to be quite tough on sex as well until the 70s, even the 90s for that matter).



* Sexuality is a highly contentious issue between the East and the West: Arabs and Asians in particular have a very paternalistic stance on the matter, something that for most Westerners [[PedoHunt is just plain wrong]]. On the flip side, homosexuality is increasingly tolerated or accepted in the West, while being regarded as a deadly sin in the East. Latin countries tend to emphasize sex more than the rest of the Western world.

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* A geographical Sliding Scale of Conservatism vs. Liberalism (in general terms) would have The Middle East and The Far East as very conservative, The U.S. and South Africa as mostly conservative, The Commonwealth and Latin America as mostly liberal and Europe with the Nordic countries as very liberal.
* In English-speaking countries, the word "liberal" refers to someone in the center-left of the political spectrum, often translating into "socialist". In Continental Europe however, "liberal" is someone in the center-right, if not outright right-wing.
* Some neighboring countries have notoriously different customs that often clash:
** The US and Canada: The former takes religion quite seriously and considers government should butt in as least as possible. The latter treats religion as a strictly private matter and government is seen as a provider that must take care of its citizens.
** Holland and Belgium: The main reason the Dutch have such lax drug laws is because of their ''laissez-faire'' stance on everything, while Belgium is somewhat more on par with Europeans' view of things.
** Spain and Portugal: Friends in Spain tend to greet each other very affectionately, with men often kissing in the cheek. In Portugal, two male friends won't even hug, no matter how close they are. The same happens between Argentina (or other Hispanic country) and Brazil.
* Sexuality is a highly contentious issue between the East and the West: Arabs and Asians in particular have a very paternalistic stance on the matter, something that for most Westerners [[PedoHunt is just plain wrong]]. On the flip side, homosexuality is increasingly tolerated or accepted in the West, while being regarded as a deadly sin (or at the very least social suicide) in the East. Latin countries tend to emphasize sex more than the rest of the Western world.



* Until fairly recently internet content providers were often criticized when they resorted to "e-begging" to pay for a project. More recently, as platforms like youtube have seriously reduced ad revenue, while standards of quality online have increased, turning to sources like Patreon has become the norm.

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* Until fairly recently internet content providers were often criticized when they resorted to "e-begging" to pay for a project. More recently, as platforms like youtube YouTube have seriously reduced ad revenue, while standards of quality online have increased, turning to sources like Patreon has become the norm.
25th Jan '17 7:33:17 AM AgProv
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* While moving teams around is often seen as a ScrappyMechanic of US sports and many non sports fans see it as producing wasteful government spending on sports stadiums few people actually need, it is at the end of the day accepted as part of the game. In Europe even moving a team out of the suburb that gives it its name is highly controversial and in the very very few cases a team was actually moved, Fans have [[StartMyOwn founded their own replacement club]]. However, European sports fans don't think twice about promotion and relegation which would not fly in the US - just imagine the New York Yankees becoming a minor league team for a couple of years for a season of bad luck and/or crappy play.

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* While moving teams around is often seen as a ScrappyMechanic of US sports and many non sports fans see it as producing wasteful government spending on sports stadiums few people actually need, it is at the end of the day accepted as part of the game. In Europe even moving a team out of the suburb that gives it its name is highly controversial and in the very very few cases a team was actually moved, Fans have [[StartMyOwn founded their own replacement club]]. However, European sports fans don't think twice about promotion and relegation which would not fly in the US - just imagine the New York Yankees becoming a minor league team for a couple of years for a season of bad luck and/or crappy play.
play. To which British observers in particular might reply "And your point is?", pointing out that even mighty Manchester United were once dropped a division for particularly mediocre performance and nobody should be immune, however inconvenient it is for big money backers.
** Also, the Scottish super-giant team Glasgow Rangers were punished, not for bad performance but for financial irregularity verging on outright corruption, by being dropped by ''three levels'' so that they really were playing in a "little league" populated by semi-amateur sides.[[note]]This is a rare but not un-known sanction that the sport's governing body can impose for offences not directly to do with how well the side is playing.[[/note]] It took several years for them to make it back to the big time. Would this be considered at all in the USA?
8th Jan '17 10:05:08 PM staticat09
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* Hanafuda cards remain popular in Japanese-American communities and in Hawaii (where they are used to play games like koi-koi), but in Japan they are often associated with the Yakuza and so make people wary, to say the least.
8th Jan '17 9:57:31 PM staticat09
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\n----* In the Catalan-speaking provinces of Spain as well as Andorra, there is a traditional Christmas figurine called the "caganer" or "crapper", which is a little man wearing a barretina (traditional hat) and mooning the audience while he poops. The fact that he is a traditional part ''of the Nativity set'' (as much as the wise men and the baby Jesus) can cause foreigners, who see it as irreverent and inappropriate, to raise their eyebrows. However, the people in these regions love him, and it is considered an honor to be made into a caganeró there are a large variety of caganers depicting politicians, celebrities and even the Pope taking a dump. In this region, the poop symbolizes fertilization of crops- as such, the caganer is seen as welcoming the new year.
8th Jan '17 8:08:04 PM backpack
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* Until fairly recently internet content providers were often criticized when they resorted to "e-begging" to pay for a project. More recently, as platforms like youtube have seriously reduced ad revenue, while standards of quality online have increased, turning to sources like Patreon has become the norm.
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