History UsefulNotes / WeAreNotTheWehrmacht

29th Sep '15 5:47:16 PM demonfiren
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The Bundeswehr rank structure is roughly the same as everywhere in the [=NATO=], for a detailed view, see UsefulNotes/CommonRanks. (That Wehrmacht thing mentioned there had, strangely enough, the same ranks.) German soldiers normally address each other either by rank and last name - ''Gefreiter Schmidt!'' (normally from above, with exceptions in tightly knit units) or by honorific and rank - ''Herr Major!'' (works both ways, but usually from below). There is no general honorific, ''especially'' not "Sir!", something every recruit who grew up watching to many American movies learns quite fast.
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The Bundeswehr rank structure is roughly the same as everywhere in the [=NATO=], for a detailed view, see UsefulNotes/CommonRanks. (That Wehrmacht thing mentioned there had, strangely enough, the same ranks.) German soldiers normally address each other either by rank and last name - ''Gefreiter Schmidt!'' (normally from above, with exceptions in tightly knit units) or by honorific and rank - ''Herr Major!'' (works both ways, but usually from below). There is no general honorific, ''especially'' not "Sir!", something every recruit who grew up watching to too many American movies learns quite fast.
29th Sep '15 5:39:14 PM demonfiren
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* '''Spike''' Officially know as the light multi-role guided missile system, it is the new standard [=ATGM=].
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* '''Spike''' Officially know known as the light multi-role guided missile system, it is the new standard [=ATGM=].
29th Sep '15 5:29:44 PM demonfiren
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The ''Bundespolizei'' (Federal Police, formerly know as ''Bundesgrenzschutz'' or Federal Border Guard) is not part of the German military, although it was founded as a somewhat paramilitary organization before West Germany was allowed to re-arm. It is primarily concerned with securing borders, transport infrastructure and diplomats. It's secondary task is to support the state police agencies when needed.
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The ''Bundespolizei'' (Federal Police, formerly know as ''Bundesgrenzschutz'' or Federal Border Guard) is not part of the German military, although it was founded as a somewhat paramilitary organization before West Germany was allowed to re-arm. It is primarily concerned with securing borders, transport infrastructure and diplomats. It's Its secondary task is to support the state police agencies when needed.

Part of the Ministry of Defence, the Bundeswehr administration is responsible for equipment procurement, part of the logistics, base management (and often security as well) and a lot of paper pushing. It's upper echelons are generally regarded as the least efficient government agency in the history of ever; it's lower end - the local base administrations - are usually the one thing even the dumbest recruit can look down to.
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Part of the Ministry of Defence, the Bundeswehr administration is responsible for equipment procurement, part of the logistics, base management (and often security as well) and a lot of paper pushing. It's Its upper echelons are generally regarded as the least efficient government agency in the history of ever; it's its lower end - the local base administrations - are usually the one thing even the dumbest recruit can look down to.
27th Aug '15 6:52:20 PM LtFedora
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* The Bundeswehr is a playable NATO country in both ''VideoGame/WargameEuropeanEscalation'' and ''[=AirLand=] Battle''.
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* The Bundeswehr is a playable NATO country in both ''VideoGame/WargameEuropeanEscalation'' all installments of the ''Wargame'' series: ''[[VideoGame/WargameEuropeanEscalation European Escalation]]'', ''[[VideoGame/WargameAirlandBattle Air-Land Battle]]'', and ''[=AirLand=] Battle''.''[[VideoGame/WargameRedDragon Red Dragon]]''.
25th Jul '15 7:30:45 AM MAI742
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The ''Heer'' (Army) is the largest part of Germany's armed forces. At the height of the cold war, it fielded 12 active divisions (150k+ combat troops, 300k+ total personnel); most of them armoured or mechanized infantry. Nowadays, it has been shrunk massively (to 68k total personnel) and is in the middle of transforming into something, although most politicians and top-level officers are not exactly sure what the result will be. It's very zen. Right now, it consists of five divisions:
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The ''Heer'' (Army) is the largest part of Germany's armed forces. At the height of the cold war, it fielded 12 active divisions (150k+ combat troops, 300k+ total personnel); most of them armoured or mechanized infantry. Nowadays, it has been shrunk massively (to 68k total personnel) and is in the middle of transforming into something, although most politicians and top-level officers are not exactly sure what the result will be. It's very zen. Right now, now it consists of five divisions:

'''We are not Mölders - the Luftwaffe'''
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'''We are not Mölders Göring - the Luftwaffe'''

'''We are not Lütjens - the Marine'''
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'''We are not Lütjens Dönitz - the Marine'''
25th Jul '15 7:26:06 AM MAI742
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'''We are not Rommel - the Heer''' The ''Heer'' (Army) is the largest part of Germany's armed forces. At the height of the cold war, it fielded 12 active divisions; most of them armoured or mechanized infantry. Nowadays, it has been shrunk massively (to 68,000 active personnel) and is in the middle of transforming into something, although most politicians and top-level officers are not exactly sure what the result will be. It's very zen. Right now, it consists of five divisions:
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'''We are not Rommel Manstein - the Heer''' The ''Heer'' (Army) is the largest part of Germany's armed forces. At the height of the cold war, it fielded 12 active divisions; divisions (150k+ combat troops, 300k+ total personnel); most of them armoured or mechanized infantry. Nowadays, it has been shrunk massively (to 68,000 active 68k total personnel) and is in the middle of transforming into something, although most politicians and top-level officers are not exactly sure what the result will be. It's very zen. Right now, it consists of five divisions:

The ''Luftwaffe'' (lit. Air Arm) is the German Air Force. It has roughly 30,000 active personnel and five combat squadrons for the usual stuff; its other tasks include surface-to-air defence, tactical and VIP transport and air base security.
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The ''Luftwaffe'' (lit. Air Arm) is the German Air Force. It has roughly 30,000 30k active personnel and five combat squadrons for the usual stuff; its other tasks include surface-to-air defence, tactical and VIP transport and air base security.

Germany's Navy. This cute little branch (only 16,000 people) was actually the first part of the Bundeswehr to be deployed abroad, clearing mines in the Persian Gulf in 1991. Despite that, is has not seen any combat yet, apart from capturing some pirates. The ''Marine'' is a pure frigate navy; the last destroyers (Rommel, Mölders and Lütjens) were decommissioned at the turn of the millennium.
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Germany's Navy. This cute little branch (only 16,000 16k people) was actually the first part of the Bundeswehr to be deployed abroad, clearing mines in the Persian Gulf in 1991. Despite that, is has not seen any combat yet, apart from capturing some pirates. The ''Marine'' is a pure frigate navy; the last destroyers (Rommel, Mölders and Lütjens) were decommissioned at the turn of the millennium.

Still owning the fourth largest military in the European Union, at least on paper, Germany spends only 1.3 percent of its GDP on it, which says a lot about Germany's GDP and its eagerness to go on military adventures. Of the roughly 180,000 people under arms, about 8,000 are really able to be deployed in combat operations - which is less than the upper mandate limits for all running operations.
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Still owning the fourth largest military in the European Union, at least on paper, Germany spends only 1.3 percent of its GDP on it, which says a lot about Germany's GDP and its eagerness to go on military adventures. Of the roughly 180,000 180k people under arms, about 8,000 8k are really able to be deployed in combat operations - which is less than the upper mandate limits for all running operations.

The availability of the different careers depends on the level of education. After leaving the service, every German soldier becomes a reservist (and can re-join the active service until a certain age), although reservist duty is nearly entirely voluntary. The exact number of available reservists varies well above 100,000, but most of them are replacement, not reinforcement troops.
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The availability of the different careers depends on the level of education. After leaving the service, every German soldier becomes a reservist (and can re-join the active service until a certain age), although reservist duty is nearly entirely voluntary. The exact number of available reservists varies well above 100,000, 100k but most of them are replacement, not reinforcement troops.
25th Jul '15 7:19:33 AM MAI742
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The Bundeswehr magically appeared apropos of nothing in 1955, [[SuspiciouslySpecificDenial very definitely with absolutely no input whatsoever from unrepentant ex-Nazis mysteriously released early from prison for good behaviour just in time for the organisation's founding]] like [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trial_of_Erich_von_Manstein Erich von Manstein]]. The Bundeswehr went on to miraculously discover several hundred thousand experienced military personnel who had never helped war-mongering genocidal racists try to conquer Europe in any capacity. The Bundeswehr then prepared for an operation that didn't come - a massive Warsaw Pact mobile offensive on German soil, with the USA being expected to toss tactical nukes like candy to stop them. Learning a lot of lessons from some sort of vague skirmish or other fought in the general area against that sort of thing a while ago, but who's really keeping track 'ay, the Bundeswehr's tactical efficiency was actually well-regarded by the Western allies - if not by the Bundeswehr or the German public itself.
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The Bundeswehr magically appeared apropos of nothing in 1955, [[SuspiciouslySpecificDenial very definitely with absolutely no input whatsoever from unrepentant ex-Nazis ex-Nazi war criminals mysteriously released early from prison for good behaviour 'good behaviour' just in time for the organisation's founding]] like [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trial_of_Erich_von_Manstein Erich von Manstein]]. The Bundeswehr went on to miraculously discover several hundred thousand experienced military personnel who had never helped war-mongering genocidal racists try to conquer Europe in any capacity. The Bundeswehr then prepared for an operation that didn't come - a massive Warsaw Pact mobile offensive on German soil, with the USA being expected to toss tactical nukes like candy to stop them. Learning a lot of lessons from some sort of vague skirmish or other fought in the general area against that sort of thing a while ago, but who's really keeping track 'ay, the Bundeswehr's tactical efficiency was actually well-regarded by the Western allies - if not by the Bundeswehr or the German public itself.
25th Jul '15 7:18:52 AM MAI742
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Magically appearing in 1955 with no history whatsoever, the Bundeswehr prepared for a war that didn't come - a massive, conventional slugfest at the German-German border. Learning a lot of lessons from some skirmish fought in the general area a few years earlier, it's combat abilities were actually held in high regard by the Western allies, if not by the Bundeswehr or the German public itself.
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Magically appearing in 1955 with no history whatsoever, the The Bundeswehr magically appeared apropos of nothing in 1955, [[SuspiciouslySpecificDenial very definitely with absolutely no input whatsoever from unrepentant ex-Nazis mysteriously released early from prison for good behaviour just in time for the organisation's founding]] like [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trial_of_Erich_von_Manstein Erich von Manstein]]. The Bundeswehr went on to miraculously discover several hundred thousand experienced military personnel who had never helped war-mongering genocidal racists try to conquer Europe in any capacity. The Bundeswehr then prepared for a war an operation that didn't come - a massive, conventional slugfest at massive Warsaw Pact mobile offensive on German soil, with the German-German border. USA being expected to toss tactical nukes like candy to stop them. Learning a lot of lessons from some sort of vague skirmish or other fought in the general area against that sort of thing a few years earlier, it's combat abilities were while ago, but who's really keeping track 'ay, the Bundeswehr's tactical efficiency was actually held in high regard well-regarded by the Western allies, allies - if not by the Bundeswehr or the German public itself.
15th Jun '15 12:59:57 PM MarkLungo
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-> ''Our mission is to keep the Russians busy until soldiers arrive.'' -->-- Unofficial Bundeswehr creed during the Cold War
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-> ''Our ''"Our mission is to keep the Russians busy until soldiers arrive.'' "'' -->-- Unofficial '''Unofficial Bundeswehr creed during the Cold War UsefulNotes/ColdWar'''

The Bundeswehr rank structure is roughly the same as everywhere in the [=NATO=], for a detailed view, see CommonRanks. (That Wehrmacht thing mentioned there had, strangely enough, the same ranks.) German soldiers normally address each other either by rank and last name - ''Gefreiter Schmidt!'' (normally from above, with exceptions in tightly knit units) or by honorific and rank - ''Herr Major!'' (works both ways, but usually from below). There is no general honorific, ''especially'' not "Sir!", something every recruit who grew up watching to many American movies learns quite fast.
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The Bundeswehr rank structure is roughly the same as everywhere in the [=NATO=], for a detailed view, see CommonRanks.UsefulNotes/CommonRanks. (That Wehrmacht thing mentioned there had, strangely enough, the same ranks.) German soldiers normally address each other either by rank and last name - ''Gefreiter Schmidt!'' (normally from above, with exceptions in tightly knit units) or by honorific and rank - ''Herr Major!'' (works both ways, but usually from below). There is no general honorific, ''especially'' not "Sir!", something every recruit who grew up watching to many American movies learns quite fast.

* GSG-9 appears as a counter-terrorist faction in every VideoGame/CounterStrike game.
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* GSG-9 appears as a counter-terrorist faction in every VideoGame/CounterStrike game.''VideoGame/CounterStrike'' game. ----
29th Apr '15 7:20:50 AM dcon930
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* '''Fuchs''' Wheeled armoured personnel carrier. Exists in a wide range of variants, including new, mine- and IED-resistant versions, but is most famous for the NBC reconnaissance model, which is also used by US and British troops.
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* '''Fuchs''' Wheeled armoured personnel carrier. Exists in a wide range of variants, including new, mine- and IED-resistant versions, but is most famous for the NBC reconnaissance model, which is also used by US and British troops. Pronounced to rhyme with books.
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