History UsefulNotes / WeAreNotTheWehrmacht

23rd Mar '16 6:23:54 AM Jhonny
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During the early years of the Bundeswehr (Adenauer was still chancellor), perhaps the biggest political scandal in post-war German history broke when an article in DER SPIEGEL under the (now oft alluded to) title "bedingt abwehrbereit"[[note]](only) conditionally ready to defend[[/note]] suggested that there were major problems with the Bundeswehr should war ever happen. Then minister of defense Franz Josef Strauß, a conservative of Bavaria and something of a larger than life figure accused the writer of the article of publishing classified documents and military secrets and a police raid was ordered and Rudolf Augstein (editor in chief of DER SPIEGEL) went to jail. While Adenauer initially protected Strauß from the ensuing public outcry and Strauß even spoke about an "abyss of treason" [[note]]Ein Abgrund an Landesverrat[[/note]], ultimately Adenauer had to backpedal, Strauß had to resign - naturally, [[RunningGag he was secretary of defense after all]] - and Augstein was released from prison. Strauß' political career seemed to be essentially dead by that point, but he eventually got back into the good graces of at least some Germans by his tenure as minister of the economy 1966-69 and eventually ran for chancellor (and lost in one of the nastiest political campaigns in post war German history) in 1980.
23rd Mar '16 6:13:07 AM Jhonny
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For some reason they still have an honest to god ''Sail ship'' in their arsenal (the Gorch Fock) which serves training purposes nobody is exactly sure about. This got widespread attention during one of the more abstruse scandals involving - naturally - the resignation of the Defense Minister (over something else, but this was a contributing factor)
3rd Mar '16 7:06:53 AM LondonKdS
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* The TV series ''Series/Deutschland83'' deals with an East German mole in the Bundeswehr of the 1980s.

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* The TV series ''Series/Deutschland83'' ''Series/{{Deutschland 83}}'' deals with an East German mole in the Bundeswehr of the 1980s.
3rd Mar '16 7:06:28 AM LondonKdS
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* The TV series ''Series/Deutschland83'' deals with an East German mole in the Bundeswehr of the 1980s.
29th Sep '15 5:47:16 PM demonfiren
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The Bundeswehr rank structure is roughly the same as everywhere in the [=NATO=], for a detailed view, see UsefulNotes/CommonRanks. (That Wehrmacht thing mentioned there had, strangely enough, the same ranks.) German soldiers normally address each other either by rank and last name - ''Gefreiter Schmidt!'' (normally from above, with exceptions in tightly knit units) or by honorific and rank - ''Herr Major!'' (works both ways, but usually from below). There is no general honorific, ''especially'' not "Sir!", something every recruit who grew up watching to many American movies learns quite fast.

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The Bundeswehr rank structure is roughly the same as everywhere in the [=NATO=], for a detailed view, see UsefulNotes/CommonRanks. (That Wehrmacht thing mentioned there had, strangely enough, the same ranks.) German soldiers normally address each other either by rank and last name - ''Gefreiter Schmidt!'' (normally from above, with exceptions in tightly knit units) or by honorific and rank - ''Herr Major!'' (works both ways, but usually from below). There is no general honorific, ''especially'' not "Sir!", something every recruit who grew up watching to too many American movies learns quite fast.
29th Sep '15 5:39:14 PM demonfiren
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* '''Spike''' Officially know as the light multi-role guided missile system, it is the new standard [=ATGM=].

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* '''Spike''' Officially know known as the light multi-role guided missile system, it is the new standard [=ATGM=].
29th Sep '15 5:29:44 PM demonfiren
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The ''Bundespolizei'' (Federal Police, formerly know as ''Bundesgrenzschutz'' or Federal Border Guard) is not part of the German military, although it was founded as a somewhat paramilitary organization before West Germany was allowed to re-arm. It is primarily concerned with securing borders, transport infrastructure and diplomats. It's secondary task is to support the state police agencies when needed.

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The ''Bundespolizei'' (Federal Police, formerly know as ''Bundesgrenzschutz'' or Federal Border Guard) is not part of the German military, although it was founded as a somewhat paramilitary organization before West Germany was allowed to re-arm. It is primarily concerned with securing borders, transport infrastructure and diplomats. It's Its secondary task is to support the state police agencies when needed.



Part of the Ministry of Defence, the Bundeswehr administration is responsible for equipment procurement, part of the logistics, base management (and often security as well) and a lot of paper pushing. It's upper echelons are generally regarded as the least efficient government agency in the history of ever; it's lower end - the local base administrations - are usually the one thing even the dumbest recruit can look down to.

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Part of the Ministry of Defence, the Bundeswehr administration is responsible for equipment procurement, part of the logistics, base management (and often security as well) and a lot of paper pushing. It's Its upper echelons are generally regarded as the least efficient government agency in the history of ever; it's its lower end - the local base administrations - are usually the one thing even the dumbest recruit can look down to.
27th Aug '15 6:52:20 PM LtFedora
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* The Bundeswehr is a playable NATO country in both ''VideoGame/WargameEuropeanEscalation'' and ''[=AirLand=] Battle''.

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* The Bundeswehr is a playable NATO country in both ''VideoGame/WargameEuropeanEscalation'' all installments of the ''Wargame'' series: ''[[VideoGame/WargameEuropeanEscalation European Escalation]]'', ''[[VideoGame/WargameAirlandBattle Air-Land Battle]]'', and ''[=AirLand=] Battle''.''[[VideoGame/WargameRedDragon Red Dragon]]''.
25th Jul '15 7:30:45 AM MAI742
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The ''Heer'' (Army) is the largest part of Germany's armed forces. At the height of the cold war, it fielded 12 active divisions (150k+ combat troops, 300k+ total personnel); most of them armoured or mechanized infantry. Nowadays, it has been shrunk massively (to 68k total personnel) and is in the middle of transforming into something, although most politicians and top-level officers are not exactly sure what the result will be. It's very zen. Right now, it consists of five divisions:

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The ''Heer'' (Army) is the largest part of Germany's armed forces. At the height of the cold war, it fielded 12 active divisions (150k+ combat troops, 300k+ total personnel); most of them armoured or mechanized infantry. Nowadays, it has been shrunk massively (to 68k total personnel) and is in the middle of transforming into something, although most politicians and top-level officers are not exactly sure what the result will be. It's very zen. Right now, now it consists of five divisions:



'''We are not Mölders - the Luftwaffe'''

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'''We are not Mölders Göring - the Luftwaffe'''



'''We are not Lütjens - the Marine'''

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'''We are not Lütjens Dönitz - the Marine'''
25th Jul '15 7:26:06 AM MAI742
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'''We are not Rommel - the Heer'''

The ''Heer'' (Army) is the largest part of Germany's armed forces. At the height of the cold war, it fielded 12 active divisions; most of them armoured or mechanized infantry. Nowadays, it has been shrunk massively (to 68,000 active personnel) and is in the middle of transforming into something, although most politicians and top-level officers are not exactly sure what the result will be. It's very zen. Right now, it consists of five divisions:

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'''We are not Rommel Manstein - the Heer'''

The ''Heer'' (Army) is the largest part of Germany's armed forces. At the height of the cold war, it fielded 12 active divisions; divisions (150k+ combat troops, 300k+ total personnel); most of them armoured or mechanized infantry. Nowadays, it has been shrunk massively (to 68,000 active 68k total personnel) and is in the middle of transforming into something, although most politicians and top-level officers are not exactly sure what the result will be. It's very zen. Right now, it consists of five divisions:



The ''Luftwaffe'' (lit. Air Arm) is the German Air Force. It has roughly 30,000 active personnel and five combat squadrons for the usual stuff; its other tasks include surface-to-air defence, tactical and VIP transport and air base security.

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The ''Luftwaffe'' (lit. Air Arm) is the German Air Force. It has roughly 30,000 30k active personnel and five combat squadrons for the usual stuff; its other tasks include surface-to-air defence, tactical and VIP transport and air base security.



Germany's Navy. This cute little branch (only 16,000 people) was actually the first part of the Bundeswehr to be deployed abroad, clearing mines in the Persian Gulf in 1991. Despite that, is has not seen any combat yet, apart from capturing some pirates. The ''Marine'' is a pure frigate navy; the last destroyers (Rommel, Mölders and Lütjens) were decommissioned at the turn of the millennium.

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Germany's Navy. This cute little branch (only 16,000 16k people) was actually the first part of the Bundeswehr to be deployed abroad, clearing mines in the Persian Gulf in 1991. Despite that, is has not seen any combat yet, apart from capturing some pirates. The ''Marine'' is a pure frigate navy; the last destroyers (Rommel, Mölders and Lütjens) were decommissioned at the turn of the millennium.



Still owning the fourth largest military in the European Union, at least on paper, Germany spends only 1.3 percent of its GDP on it, which says a lot about Germany's GDP and its eagerness to go on military adventures. Of the roughly 180,000 people under arms, about 8,000 are really able to be deployed in combat operations - which is less than the upper mandate limits for all running operations.

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Still owning the fourth largest military in the European Union, at least on paper, Germany spends only 1.3 percent of its GDP on it, which says a lot about Germany's GDP and its eagerness to go on military adventures. Of the roughly 180,000 180k people under arms, about 8,000 8k are really able to be deployed in combat operations - which is less than the upper mandate limits for all running operations.



The availability of the different careers depends on the level of education. After leaving the service, every German soldier becomes a reservist (and can re-join the active service until a certain age), although reservist duty is nearly entirely voluntary. The exact number of available reservists varies well above 100,000, but most of them are replacement, not reinforcement troops.

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The availability of the different careers depends on the level of education. After leaving the service, every German soldier becomes a reservist (and can re-join the active service until a certain age), although reservist duty is nearly entirely voluntary. The exact number of available reservists varies well above 100,000, 100k but most of them are replacement, not reinforcement troops.
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