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13th Apr '16 2:04:46 PM spydre
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* StephenKing's short story ''[[Literature/NightShift I Am The Doorway]]'' concerns a manned mission to Venus that goes horribly, horribly wrong (you want an idea how wrong, [[https://le0pard13.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/3eb908c333195286e7-0.jpg look at the cover]]). Because it was written in 1971, near the beginning of the ''Venera'' program, it spans the gap between our early, speculative take on Venus and our full, horrified understanding of its true nature. Nonetheless, being King, it contains some fittingly chilling descriptions of the planet's surface that would turn out to be unwittingly prescient.

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* StephenKing's short story ''[[Literature/NightShift I Am The Doorway]]'' concerns a manned mission to Venus that goes horribly, horribly wrong (you want an idea how wrong, [[https://le0pard13.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/3eb908c333195286e7-0.jpg look at the cover]]). Because it was written in 1971, near the beginning of the ''Venera'' program, it spans the gap between our early, speculative take on Venus and our full, horrified understanding of its true nature. Nonetheless, being King, it contains some fittingly chilling descriptions of the planet's surface that would turn out to be unwittingly prescient.prescient [[http://i.imgur.com/lh4a46c.jpg once the pictures came in]].
13th Apr '16 1:58:40 PM spydre
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->That was Venus. Nothing but nothing - except it scared me. It was like circling a haunted house in the middle of deep space. I know how unscientific that sounds, but I was scared gutless until we got out of there. I think if our rockets hadn't gone off, I would have cut my throat on the way down. It's not like the moon. The moon is desolate but somehow antiseptic. That world we saw was utterly unlike anything that anyone has ever seen. Maybe it's a good thing that cloud cover is there. It was like a skull that's been picked clean -that's the closest I can get.

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->That -->That was Venus. Nothing but nothing - except it scared me. It was like circling a haunted house in the middle of deep space. I know how unscientific that sounds, but I was scared gutless until we got out of there. I think if our rockets hadn't gone off, I would have cut my throat on the way down. It's not like the moon. The moon is desolate but somehow antiseptic. That world we saw was utterly unlike anything that anyone has ever seen. Maybe it's a good thing that cloud cover is there. It was like a skull that's been picked clean -that's the closest I can get.
13th Apr '16 1:57:34 PM spydre
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*StephenKing's short story ''[[Literature/NightShift I Am The Doorway]]'' concerns a manned mission to Venus that goes horribly, horribly wrong (you want an idea how wrong, [[https://le0pard13.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/3eb908c333195286e7-0.jpg look at the cover]]). Because it was written in 1971, near the beginning of the ''Venera'' program, it spans the gap between our early, speculative take on Venus and our full, horrified understanding of its true nature. Nonetheless, being King, it contains some fittingly chilling descriptions of the planet's surface that would turn out to be unwittingly prescient.
->That was Venus. Nothing but nothing - except it scared me. It was like circling a haunted house in the middle of deep space. I know how unscientific that sounds, but I was scared gutless until we got out of there. I think if our rockets hadn't gone off, I would have cut my throat on the way down. It's not like the moon. The moon is desolate but somehow antiseptic. That world we saw was utterly unlike anything that anyone has ever seen. Maybe it's a good thing that cloud cover is there. It was like a skull that's been picked clean -that's the closest I can get.
4th Apr '16 1:56:50 PM RainbowPhoenix
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Its surface features, long hidden under the constant cloud cover, were finally mapped by the Magellan space probe using radar in [[TheNineties the 1990s]]. The highest mountain is Maxwell Montes, almost 7 miles above the average surface level. If you stood on its peak, it'd be a downright chilly 380°C / 716°F, and a mere 60 atmospheres of pressure. The culprit for all this heat is the greenhouse effect--Earth's atmosphere is less than 1% carbon dioxide, while Venus's is over 90% carbon dioxide. Earth started with the same amount, [[SealedEvilInACan but it ended up trapped in carbonate rock]]. Venus also started with the same amount of water as the Earth had, but it remained in vapor form (300 atmospheres worth) and created [[UpToEleven a super greenhouse effect]] with temperatures in the ''thousands'' of degrees. [[note]]This plus the slow rotation probably wrecked any chance at plate tectonics; instead of plates constantly sliding against each other, [[LethalLavaLand there seems to be intermittent vulcanism punctuated by the entire surface melting every 500 million years or so]].[[/note]] Eventually the water molecules dissociated into hydrogen and oxygen and escaped into space, leaving Venus high and dry. Due to Venus being mythologically associated with femininity, by convention all geographic features there are named after women or female entities, except for Maxwell Montes and Alpha and Beta Regio. [[note]]These features were first detected by ground-based radar in the mid-1960's; Alpha and Beta Regio were the first two terrain features to be isolated, and Maxwell Montes was named after James Clerk Maxwell, the formulator of the theory and equations of electromagnetism that ultimately led to the invention of radar.[[/note]] There is some argument over whether the proper adjective is 'Venusian', 'Venerean', or 'Cytherean' -- just don't use 'Venereal'.

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Its surface features, long hidden under the constant cloud cover, were finally mapped by the Magellan space probe using radar in [[TheNineties the 1990s]]. The highest mountain is Maxwell Montes, almost 7 miles above the average surface level. If you stood on its peak, it'd be a downright chilly 380°C / 716°F, and a mere 60 atmospheres of pressure. The culprit for all this heat is the greenhouse effect--Earth's atmosphere is less than 1% carbon dioxide, while Venus's is over 90% carbon dioxide. Earth started with the same amount, [[SealedEvilInACan but it ended up trapped in carbonate rock]]. Venus also started with the same amount of water as the Earth had, but it remained in vapor form (300 atmospheres worth) and created [[UpToEleven a super greenhouse effect]] with temperatures in the ''thousands'' of degrees. [[note]]This plus the slow rotation probably wrecked any chance at plate tectonics; instead of plates constantly sliding against each other, [[LethalLavaLand there seems to be intermittent vulcanism punctuated by planet-wide volcanism wiping out many of the entire planet's surface melting features every 500 million billion years or so]].[[/note]] Eventually the water molecules dissociated into hydrogen and oxygen and escaped into space, leaving Venus high and dry. Due to Venus being mythologically associated with femininity, by convention all geographic features there are named after women or female entities, except for Maxwell Montes and Alpha and Beta Regio. [[note]]These features were first detected by ground-based radar in the mid-1960's; Alpha and Beta Regio were the first two terrain features to be isolated, and Maxwell Montes was named after James Clerk Maxwell, the formulator of the theory and equations of electromagnetism that ultimately led to the invention of radar.[[/note]] There is some argument over whether the proper adjective is 'Venusian', 'Venerean', or 'Cytherean' -- just don't use 'Venereal'.
2nd Apr '16 9:47:47 PM MsChibi
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----* The ''[[MarsAndVenusGenderContrast Venus and Mars]]'' self-help books depict Venus as a utopian PleasurePlanet, where women (and maybe some effeminate men) lived, until they headed to Earth with their new Martian partners for reasons never really explained. There are parks, museums, cafes, shops, etc. The residents are sociable, intuitive, and prone to daydreaming, and (aside from a longing for the Martians of their daydreams), never really experience problems.
26th Mar '16 4:12:24 AM JackG
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* ''Old Venus'' is an anthology of short stories written in Pre-Venera style, but by 21st century authors.
26th Feb '16 12:33:44 AM harharhar
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Venus used to be called "Earth's twin". It's 95% as big around as the Earth, it's got 90% of Earth's surface gravity, it's got an atmosphere with clouds in it, it's about the same distance from the sun--what could be so different? Because of this, Venus was the first actual planet to be visited by an unmanned probe.

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Venus used to be called "Earth's twin". twin": It's 95% as big around as the Earth, it's got 90% of Earth's surface gravity, it's got an atmosphere with clouds in it, it's about the same distance from the sun--what could be so different? sun. Because of this, Venus was the first actual planet to be visited by an unmanned probe.
probe; after all, what could be so different?
12th Feb '16 1:07:43 PM RainbowPhoenix
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The fact that Venus goes through the same phases as the moon was the final nail in the coffin of the geocentric model of the universe. If everything revolved around the Earth, then Venus would never go past the first quarter phase, or the third quarter phase. Yet Galileo clearly saw Venus go from its first quarter phase, to its waxing gibbous phase, and then the waning gibbous phase once it was on the other side of the sun, confirming once and for all that Venus traveled from the same side of the sun as Earth to the opposite side and back, and therefore did not and could not revolve around Earth.
6th Jan '16 3:42:59 PM pittsburghmuggle
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At some point in the planet's early history, some big huge honkin' planetesimal struck it at an oblique angle, causing it to rotate very slowly ''backwards'' when compared with all the other planets in the Solar system. As a result of this super-slow rotation, a Cytherean solar day is nearly as long as a Venusian year. Not that you'd be able to ''see'' much difference between day and night while on the surface. The super-thick atmosphere bends light so severely that the horizon appears to curve ''upward'', allowing you to see all the way around the planet. Twice. Whether you're on the day side or the night side, you'll see a hazy overcast sky that's about the same brightness everywhere--assuming you survive the lack of oxygen, the crushing pressures, and the hellish temperatures, that is.

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At some point in the planet's early history, some big huge honkin' planetesimal struck it at an oblique angle, causing it to rotate very slowly ''backwards'' when compared with all the other planets in the Solar system. As a result of this super-slow rotation, a Cytherean solar day is nearly as long as a Venusian year. Not that you'd be able to ''see'' much difference between day and night while on the surface. The super-thick atmosphere bends light so severely that the horizon appears to curve ''upward'', allowing you to see all the way around the planet. Twice. Whether you're on the day side or the night side, you'll see a hazy overcast sky that's about the same brightness everywhere--assuming you survive the lack of oxygen, the crushing pressures, and the hellish temperatures, that is.
6th Jan '16 3:38:16 PM pittsburghmuggle
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Venus used to be called "Earth's twin". It's 95% as big around as the Earth, it's got 90% of Earth's surface gravity, it's got an atmosphere with clouds in it, it's about the same distance from the sun--what could be so different?

Well, for one, its surface temperature turned out to be nearly 900 degrees Fahrenheit, hotter than a self-cleaning oven and able to ''melt lead.'' [[note]]UsefulNotes/NeilDeGrasseTyson was fond of saying that, according to his calculations, putting a pizza on a window sill would cook it in nine seconds. He was then corrected by a fan, who noted that he forgot to take into account certain things, and noted that the pizza would be cooked ''instantly''. And then be vaporized. As would the window sill. And the building the window sill was attached to.[[/note]] The "air" consists almost entirely of carbon dioxide, and at the surface the pressure is equal to being ''half a mile'' under the ocean on Earth. And those clouds? They're not made of water vapor, they're made of sulfuric acid. What was once thought of as "Earth's Twin" turned out to be Earth's EvilTwin and a BitchInSheepsClothing.

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Venus used to be called "Earth's twin". It's 95% as big around as the Earth, it's got 90% of Earth's surface gravity, it's got an atmosphere with clouds in it, it's about the same distance from the sun--what could be so different?

Well, for one,
different? Because of this, Venus was the first actual planet to be visited by an unmanned probe.

Unfortunately,
its surface temperature turned out to be nearly 900 degrees Fahrenheit, hotter than a self-cleaning oven and able to ''melt lead.'' [[note]]UsefulNotes/NeilDeGrasseTyson was fond of saying that, according to his calculations, putting a pizza on a window sill would cook it in nine seconds. He was then corrected by a fan, who noted that he forgot to take into account certain things, and noted that the pizza would be cooked ''instantly''. And then be vaporized. As would the window sill. And the building the window sill was attached to.[[/note]] The "air" consists almost entirely of carbon dioxide, and at the surface the pressure is equal to being ''half a mile'' under the ocean on Earth. And those clouds? They're not made of water vapor, they're made of sulfuric acid. What was once thought of as "Earth's Twin" turned out to be Earth's EvilTwin and a BitchInSheepsClothing.
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