History UsefulNotes / TwinCities

7th Jan '16 11:21:32 AM BuddyBoy600alt
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* Riley Anderson of ''Film/InsideOut'' was born in ether Minneapolis or St. Paul. We can never be sure.

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* Riley Anderson of ''Film/InsideOut'' ''WesternAnimation/InsideOut'' was born in ether Minneapolis or St. Paul. We can never be sure.
7th Jan '16 11:17:43 AM BuddyBoy600alt
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* Riley Anderson of ''Film/InsideOut'' was born in ether Minneapolis or St. Paul. We can never be sure.
25th Oct '15 9:24:43 AM AwSamWeston
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'''Minneapolis and Saint Paul''' are the '''Twin Cities''' of Minnesota. Minneapolis is the most populous city in the state and situated on the west bank of the Mississippi River, while state capital St. Paul sits right across the river[[note]]17 miles apart[[/note]] on the east bank and is the second-largest city. Minneapolis is the county seat of Hennepin County while St. Paul is the seat of Ramsey County. This is mildly important for people who live there.

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'''Minneapolis and Saint Paul''' are the '''Twin Cities''' of Minnesota. Minneapolis is the most populous city in the state and situated on the west bank of the Mississippi River, while state capital St. Paul sits right across the river[[note]]17 miles apart[[/note]] river on the east bank and is the second-largest city. Minneapolis is the county seat of Hennepin County while St. Paul is the seat of Ramsey County. This is mildly important for people who live there.
8th Oct '15 8:47:16 AM jmaynard
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Perhaps its most famous landmark is the Mall of America in the suburb of Bloomington, the second-largest indoor mall in the US and the most visited mall in the world.

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Perhaps its most famous landmark is the Mall of America in the suburb of Bloomington, the second-largest indoor mall in the US and the most visited mall in the world.
world. The mall's popularity is helped by only being a couple of miles away from Minneapolis-St Paul International Airport, and just a few stops away by light rail, so it is not at all uncommon for people to fly in just to go shopping.
4th Aug '15 12:37:24 AM phoenix
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!!"The Trope Cities":
* AbandonedArea: Most notably the Landmark Brewery in St. Paul.
* [[BizarroUniverse Bizarro World]]: You can literally live on either Twin City for most of your life and be completely and utterly unfamiliar with the neighborhoods of the other.
* GoddamnBats: The Cities are extremely bike-friendly. Cyclists consider outstate drivers to be GoddamnBats, and outstate drivers feel the same way about cyclists.
** Pedestrians in the city (and they do exist) find cyclists to be pests. Similarly, in the suburbs, drivers find cyclists who ride in the half-foot-wide gutters instead of on the empty sidewalks to be a nuisance.
* GrimUpNorth: More or less the American counterpart to OopNorth, between the trustworthy people and the harsh, bitter winters; some states entirely close down for an inch of snow, while Minnesotans still have to go to work with a half-foot, and the streets are all but clean 24 hours later.
* {{Hipster}}: St. Paul and Minneapolis are the largest cities in the [[http://www.buzzfeed.com/chrismenning/the-most-hipster-state-in-the-us most hipster state in the union.]] They contain an estimated 90% of the state's hipster population; while individuals may be glimpsed in any largish town within twenty miles of I-35 or in spontaneous visits to vacation-town craft/kitsch galleries, and Duluth also contains a significant hipster population, Minneapolis is a place where vast herds of hipsters roam free and unchecked. In particular, they have a ''very'' high density near the Walker Art Center.
* MalevolentArchitecture: The Ikea building next to the Mall of America is notorious for its layout. They lure you in to the top floor for the food, then use a series of slopes, repetitive turns, and misleading signs to turn a five-minute walk into a half-hour maze.
* MindScrew: The names of the neighborhoods, particularly in St. Paul.
** Under a railroad bridge on I-94 is the footbridge to nowhere. There is a footbridge that starts at a solid wall, runs 14" under an active railroad bridge, and ends at a solid wall. Boggles the mind.
** It is not unheard of for a straight road to be called Street One, until it hits a crossroad, at which point Street One jumps a block over and the straight road continues on as Street Two.
** The Twin City's urban planners really love long continuous streets with a single name. This does not play well with those 10,000 lakes. If you find yourself looking for (say) 1500 Elm it is quite common to drive down Elm & pass 1200, then 1300, then hit a dead end with a lake in front of you & the only way to go around is to go back. 1301 Elm will be found on the opposite side of the lake (if you can get there), and the numbers will continue normally.
* MinnesotaNice
* NonIndicativeName: The West Side is in Southern St. Paul. See MindScrew.
** Similarly, West St. Paul is to the EAST of St. Paul.
** And the West Side and West St. Paul are completely different things.
** There are four different streets named Hennepin Avenue, and three named University, none of which have anything at all to do with each other. Visitors to the Cities are strongly cautioned to use a GPS or get detailed directions.
* PlanetOfHats: The stereotype of being blonde, Swedish, Lutheran, and polite. But it's not true. Some of the Swedes are ''brunettes''.
* WrongSideOfTheTracks: Most visitors won't go any further north than where the light rail ends.
* SmallTownRivalry: Big Time...
** Minneapolis Aquatennial -- St Paul Winter Carnival.
** Minneapolis Millers -- St Paul Saints. Both teams folded in 1960, with the arrival of the Twins in 1961; the Saints were reestablished in 1994 and are one of the most successful and popular independent minor league baseball teams in the country.
** This is the reason that all of the four major league teams are named for the state instead of the city, even though three of the four (the Twins, the Vikings, [[note]]though they both first played in Bloomington's Metropolitan Stadium on the site of what is now the Mall of America[[/note]] and the Timberwolves) play in Minneapolis. The Minnesota Wild plays in St Paul.
** There are two full WFTDA roller derby leagues in the Twin Cities. The older league, the Minnesota [=RollerGirls=], train and bout in St. Paul's Roy Wilkins Auditorium, while the younger team, the North Star Roller Girls, train in a warehouse in Nordeast but bout at the Lee and Rose Warner Coliseum at the State Fairgrounds.
** There's a freaking full-sized cathedral in each city (although one is called a Basilica due to proximity issues).
** One reason the Minnesota State Fair grounds are in a "city" between the cities is so neither Minneapolis nor St Paul could claim that prize.
** Interstate 35 splits into I-35E and I-35W to go through both cities, one of only two remaining sets of suffixed Interstates in the US. [[note]]The other is in Dallas and Fort Worth, which have a similar rivalry.[[/note]] The exit numbers follow I-35E despite through trucks being directed onto I-35W.
* ThemeNaming: A major street in Minneapolis is called Lyndale Avenue. Proceeding west from Lyndale, the streets go Aldrich, Bryant, Colfax, Dupont . . . and so on until Zenith, at which point they start again with Abbott. This continues for a total of at least ''seven'' alphabets, well into the suburbs.
** Northeast Minneapolis ("Nordeast" to locals) was a major immigrant neighborhood in the early 1900s. To assist residents in studying for their citizenship test, north-south streets in Nordeast are named after the Presidents through Harding St. NE. Except there was already a Grant Street downtown, causing the street named after President Grant to be named Ulysses St. NE.
*** Kennedy St. NE runs ''east-west'' in an industrial area near East Hennepin Ave., and is not part of this naming scheme.
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!!"The Trope Cities":
* AbandonedArea: Most notably the Landmark Brewery
%%!!Tropes as portrayed in St. Paul.
* [[BizarroUniverse Bizarro World]]: You can literally live on either Twin City for most of your life and be completely and utterly unfamiliar with the neighborhoods of the other.
* GoddamnBats: The Cities are extremely bike-friendly. Cyclists consider outstate drivers to be GoddamnBats, and outstate drivers feel the same way about cyclists.
** Pedestrians in the city (and they do exist) find cyclists to be pests. Similarly, in the suburbs, drivers find cyclists who ride in the half-foot-wide gutters instead of on the empty sidewalks to be a nuisance.
* GrimUpNorth: More or less the American counterpart to OopNorth, between the trustworthy people and the harsh, bitter winters; some states entirely close down for an inch of snow, while Minnesotans still have to go to work with a half-foot, and the streets are all but clean 24 hours later.
* {{Hipster}}: St. Paul and Minneapolis are the largest cities in the [[http://www.buzzfeed.com/chrismenning/the-most-hipster-state-in-the-us most hipster state in the union.]] They contain an estimated 90% of the state's hipster population; while individuals may be glimpsed in any largish town within twenty miles of I-35 or in spontaneous visits to vacation-town craft/kitsch galleries, and Duluth also contains a significant hipster population, Minneapolis is a place where vast herds of hipsters roam free and unchecked. In particular, they have a ''very'' high density near the Walker Art Center.
* MalevolentArchitecture: The Ikea building next to the Mall of America is notorious for its layout. They lure you in to the top floor for the food, then use a series of slopes, repetitive turns, and misleading signs to turn a five-minute walk into a half-hour maze.
* MindScrew: The names of the neighborhoods, particularly in St. Paul.
** Under a railroad bridge on I-94 is the footbridge to nowhere. There is a footbridge that starts at a solid wall, runs 14" under an active railroad bridge, and ends at a solid wall. Boggles the mind.
** It is not unheard of for a straight road to be called Street One, until it hits a crossroad, at which point Street One jumps a block over and the straight road continues on as Street Two.
** The Twin City's urban planners really love long continuous streets with a single name. This does not play well with those 10,000 lakes. If you find yourself looking for (say) 1500 Elm it is quite common to drive down Elm & pass 1200, then 1300, then hit a dead end with a lake in front of you & the only way to go around is to go back. 1301 Elm will be found on the opposite side of the lake (if you can get there), and the numbers will continue normally.
* MinnesotaNice
* NonIndicativeName: The West Side is in Southern St. Paul. See MindScrew.
** Similarly, West St. Paul is to the EAST of St. Paul.
** And the West Side and West St. Paul are completely different things.
** There are four different streets named Hennepin Avenue, and three named University, none of which have anything at all to do with each other. Visitors to the Cities are strongly cautioned to use a GPS or get detailed directions.
* PlanetOfHats: The stereotype of being blonde, Swedish, Lutheran, and polite. But it's not true. Some of the Swedes are ''brunettes''.
* WrongSideOfTheTracks: Most visitors won't go any further north than where the light rail ends.
* SmallTownRivalry: Big Time...
** Minneapolis Aquatennial -- St Paul Winter Carnival.
** Minneapolis Millers -- St Paul Saints. Both teams folded in 1960, with the arrival of the Twins in 1961; the Saints were reestablished in 1994 and are one of the most successful and popular independent minor league baseball teams in the country.
** This is the reason that all of the four major league teams are named for the state instead of the city, even though three of the four (the Twins, the Vikings, [[note]]though they both first played in Bloomington's Metropolitan Stadium on the site of what is now the Mall of America[[/note]] and the Timberwolves) play in Minneapolis. The Minnesota Wild plays in St Paul.
** There are two full WFTDA roller derby leagues in the Twin Cities. The older league, the Minnesota [=RollerGirls=], train and bout in St. Paul's Roy Wilkins Auditorium, while the younger team, the North Star Roller Girls, train in a warehouse in Nordeast but bout at the Lee and Rose Warner Coliseum at the State Fairgrounds.
** There's a freaking full-sized cathedral in each city (although one is called a Basilica due to proximity issues).
** One reason the Minnesota State Fair grounds are in a "city" between the cities is so neither Minneapolis nor St Paul could claim that prize.
** Interstate 35 splits into I-35E and I-35W to go through both cities, one of only two remaining sets of suffixed Interstates in the US. [[note]]The other is in Dallas and Fort Worth, which have a similar rivalry.[[/note]] The exit numbers follow I-35E despite through trucks being directed onto I-35W.
* ThemeNaming: A major street in Minneapolis is called Lyndale Avenue. Proceeding west from Lyndale, the streets go Aldrich, Bryant, Colfax, Dupont . . . and so on until Zenith, at which point they start again with Abbott. This continues for a total of at least ''seven'' alphabets, well into the suburbs.
** Northeast Minneapolis ("Nordeast" to locals) was a major immigrant neighborhood in the early 1900s. To assist residents in studying for their citizenship test, north-south streets in Nordeast are named after the Presidents through Harding St. NE. Except there was already a Grant Street downtown, causing the street named after President Grant to be named Ulysses St. NE.
*** Kennedy St. NE runs ''east-west'' in an industrial area near East Hennepin Ave., and is not part of this naming scheme.
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18th Jun '15 4:28:04 AM AaronOfMpls
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*** Kennedy St. NE runs ''east-west'' in an industrial area near East Hennepin, and is not part of this naming scheme.

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*** Kennedy St. NE runs ''east-west'' in an industrial area near East Hennepin, Hennepin Ave., and is not part of this naming scheme.
18th Jun '15 4:27:13 AM AaronOfMpls
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** Northeast Minneapolis ("Nordeast" to locals) was a major immigrant neighborhood in the early 1900s. To assist residents in studying for their citizenship test, north-south streets in Nordeast are named after the Presidents through Harding St. NE. Except there was already a Grant Street in southern Minneapolis, causing the street named after President Grant to be named Ulysses St. NE.

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** Northeast Minneapolis ("Nordeast" to locals) was a major immigrant neighborhood in the early 1900s. To assist residents in studying for their citizenship test, north-south streets in Nordeast are named after the Presidents through Harding St. NE. Except there was already a Grant Street in southern Minneapolis, downtown, causing the street named after President Grant to be named Ulysses St. NE.
19th May '15 4:22:32 PM AaronOfMpls
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*** Kennedy St. NE runs east-west in an industrial area near East Hennepin, and is not part of this naming scheme.

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*** Kennedy St. NE runs east-west ''east-west'' in an industrial area near East Hennepin, and is not part of this naming scheme.
19th May '15 4:21:56 PM AaronOfMpls
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*** Kennedy St. NE is in downtown and is not part of this naming scheme.

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*** Kennedy St. NE is runs east-west in downtown an industrial area near East Hennepin, and is not part of this naming scheme.
22nd Apr '15 6:53:55 PM RisefromYourGrave
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Minneapolis and Saint Paul are the Twin Cities of Minnesota. Minneapolis is the most populous city in the state and situated on the west bank of the Mississippi River, while state capital St. Paul sits right across the river[[note]]17 miles apart[[/note]] on the east bank and is the second-largest city. Minneapolis is the county seat of Hennepin County while St. Paul is the seat of Ramsey County. This is mildly important for people who live there.

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Minneapolis '''Minneapolis and Saint Paul Paul''' are the Twin Cities '''Twin Cities''' of Minnesota. Minneapolis is the most populous city in the state and situated on the west bank of the Mississippi River, while state capital St. Paul sits right across the river[[note]]17 miles apart[[/note]] on the east bank and is the second-largest city. Minneapolis is the county seat of Hennepin County while St. Paul is the seat of Ramsey County. This is mildly important for people who live there.



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!!! "The Trope Cities":

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